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Re: Update: Faucet Fuel Pump Ticking Sound w/ Plenty of Fuel

Corbin
 

Well, I think I am just baffled because the Faucet pump (same model) I had before did not tick like this unless fuel was low.  Then it started ticking all of a sudden and the replacement one does  too.  I am actually not too concerned about fuel flow as it is clearly pumping faster than fuel going from header to the engine.

Corbin Ge!ser

On April 29, 2020 at 11:57 AM, Jim Patillo <Logistics_engineering@...> wrote:

Corbin as you may know the Facet pump does make a ticking noise when pumping. Since you are concerned with the new one, hook up a line to the output side of the pump and flow it to a can. If you are flowing 1.5 -2 times the required fuel burn you should be good to go.

You may also want to stand the pump off the canard with rubber. That limits the noise transfer to the canard.

Jim
N46JP Q200

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From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser@...>
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 8:43:18 AM
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Subject: Re: [Q-List] Update: Faucet Fuel Pump Ticking Sound w/ Plenty of Fuel
 
Thanks Ady....no, just 100LL.

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Corbin 
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Corbin 
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Re: Update: Faucet Fuel Pump Ticking Sound w/ Plenty of Fuel

adrianbloomfield@ymail.com
 

Here you go Corbin. 
I was slightly mistaken with what I read. But knew it had something to do with the seals.
The script is from our LAA.
Refer to number one for your reference. 





On 29 Apr 2020, at 16:43, Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser@...> wrote:

Thanks Ady....no, just 100LL.

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Corbin 
N33QR


Re: Update: Faucet Fuel Pump Ticking Sound w/ Plenty of Fuel

Dan Thomas
 

The facet pump in my RV-6 has always rattled when I first turn it on and then becomes quieter in a few seconds. I believe it has something to do with air in the lines at first and also that there is no pressure in the line at first. Upon filling the lines and building up a little bit of pressure on the downstream side of the pump then it operates more quietly.  As it works in a Q airplane there is never really any back pressure so it makes sense that it would operate a little more noisy.  My RV now has about 1300 hours and is still using the  original facet pump which I use only on takeoff or when I see low pressure from the mechanical pump.   Since the facet pump is relatively affordable and small I carry a new one at all times. One last comment is the first 400 hours I used almost all auto fuel,  since then I have only used 100LL.

—Dan T.




On Wednesday, April 29, 2020, 9:01 AM, Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote:

Sorry Sam, meant to say urethane. That is what I am using in my sump drain hoses and overflow return from header, but in either case, I was just recommending Corbin only use the clear tubing temporarily to check for bubbles, then go back to his previous hose. I stated that clearly. The bubbles are easy to see in clear tubing.

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sam Hoskins
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 9:15 AM
To: main@q-list.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Update: Faucet Fuel Pump Ticking Sound w/ Plenty of Fuel

 

First off, IMHO, never ever use vinyl tubing. When exposed to fuel it shrinks and hardens. This can lead to air leaks at the fittings. QAC said to use the vinyl tubing, but that was over 40 years ago. 

 

I have found that even a very small amount of air in the lines, bubbles so small that they are difficult to see, cam make your pump rattle.

 

I have recently had good luck with the blue tinted urethane tubing available from Aircraft Spruce.

 

On Wed, Apr 29, 2020, 9:37 AM Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote:

Hi Corbin,

 

Is your line from the pump to the main tank a flexible or a hard (aluminum) line? If it is flexible, I would suggest fashioning a replacement for that line out of clear vinyl tubing, then turn on the pump and look for bubbles. If no bubbles, go back to your previous line and don’t think about it any more.  If it is a hard line, you may need to buy some barbed fittings for both tubing ends that will match the flared fitting size, but you can do the same exercise with the clear vinyl tubing.

 

Just FYI, I have two identical Facet pumps that were installed at the same time 90 operational hours ago and were new out of the box. One of them pumps the output from the fuel selector directly to the throttle body regulator and is very quiet. The other pumps from the main to the header and is very noisy, so go figure. As long as your pump is new, is not pumping air (check with temporary vinyl line), and is moving fuel at the rate you need, you should be good to go. In other words, I do not think noise is a firm diagnostic.

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Corbin via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 7:29 AM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: [Q-List] Update: Faucet Fuel Pump Ticking Sound w/ Plenty of Fuel

 

I couldn't find my previous thread on this so thought  I would start a new one.  My transfer pump (Faucet), when running with  plenty of fuel in the main tank, now clicks/ticks just like when the fuel is low (air).  To be sure it wasn't the fuel pump starting to fail, I went ahead and replaced it with a new one since that is a cheap and easy process.  However, the new one also clicks/ticks.  It seems to be pumping plenty of fuel as it will quickly start to return from the header, as normal.  

So, it seems the next thing to check for is air in the lines somewhere......but how/where  do I start on that?

--

Corbin 
N33QR


Re: Update: Faucet Fuel Pump Ticking Sound w/ Plenty of Fuel

Jim Patillo
 

Corbin as you may know the Facet pump does make a ticking noise when pumping. Since you are concerned with the new one, hook up a line to the output side of the pump and flow it to a can. If you are flowing 1.5 -2 times the required fuel burn you should be good to go.

You may also want to stand the pump off the canard with rubber. That limits the noise transfer to the canard.

Jim
N46JP Q200

Sent from Outer Space


From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser@...>
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 8:43:18 AM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Update: Faucet Fuel Pump Ticking Sound w/ Plenty of Fuel
 
Thanks Ady....no, just 100LL.

--

Corbin 
N33QR


Re: Update: Faucet Fuel Pump Ticking Sound w/ Plenty of Fuel

Jay Scheevel
 

Sorry Sam, meant to say urethane. That is what I am using in my sump drain hoses and overflow return from header, but in either case, I was just recommending Corbin only use the clear tubing temporarily to check for bubbles, then go back to his previous hose. I stated that clearly. The bubbles are easy to see in clear tubing.

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sam Hoskins
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 9:15 AM
To: main@q-list.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Update: Faucet Fuel Pump Ticking Sound w/ Plenty of Fuel

 

First off, IMHO, never ever use vinyl tubing. When exposed to fuel it shrinks and hardens. This can lead to air leaks at the fittings. QAC said to use the vinyl tubing, but that was over 40 years ago. 

 

I have found that even a very small amount of air in the lines, bubbles so small that they are difficult to see, cam make your pump rattle.

 

I have recently had good luck with the blue tinted urethane tubing available from Aircraft Spruce.

 

On Wed, Apr 29, 2020, 9:37 AM Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote:

Hi Corbin,

 

Is your line from the pump to the main tank a flexible or a hard (aluminum) line? If it is flexible, I would suggest fashioning a replacement for that line out of clear vinyl tubing, then turn on the pump and look for bubbles. If no bubbles, go back to your previous line and don’t think about it any more.  If it is a hard line, you may need to buy some barbed fittings for both tubing ends that will match the flared fitting size, but you can do the same exercise with the clear vinyl tubing.

 

Just FYI, I have two identical Facet pumps that were installed at the same time 90 operational hours ago and were new out of the box. One of them pumps the output from the fuel selector directly to the throttle body regulator and is very quiet. The other pumps from the main to the header and is very noisy, so go figure. As long as your pump is new, is not pumping air (check with temporary vinyl line), and is moving fuel at the rate you need, you should be good to go. In other words, I do not think noise is a firm diagnostic.

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Corbin via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 7:29 AM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: [Q-List] Update: Faucet Fuel Pump Ticking Sound w/ Plenty of Fuel

 

I couldn't find my previous thread on this so thought  I would start a new one.  My transfer pump (Faucet), when running with  plenty of fuel in the main tank, now clicks/ticks just like when the fuel is low (air).  To be sure it wasn't the fuel pump starting to fail, I went ahead and replaced it with a new one since that is a cheap and easy process.  However, the new one also clicks/ticks.  It seems to be pumping plenty of fuel as it will quickly start to return from the header, as normal.  

So, it seems the next thing to check for is air in the lines somewhere......but how/where  do I start on that?

--

Corbin 
N33QR


Re: Update: Faucet Fuel Pump Ticking Sound w/ Plenty of Fuel

Corbin
 

Now I am  wondering if  I am  only  thinking of my return fuel line  as the one that  is clear  vinyl.  
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Corbin 
N33QR


Re: Update: Faucet Fuel Pump Ticking Sound w/ Plenty of Fuel

Corbin
 

Thanks Jay.  I have the clear vinyl tubing and will look very closely to see if I notice any air bubbles.  I should be able to go back out there within 2-3 days.
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Corbin 
N33QR


Re: Update: Faucet Fuel Pump Ticking Sound w/ Plenty of Fuel

Corbin
 

Thanks Ady....no, just 100LL.

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Corbin 
N33QR


Re: Update: Faucet Fuel Pump Ticking Sound w/ Plenty of Fuel

Larry
 

If it ain’t clinking it ain’t working


From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Adam hied <hiedadam@...>
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 8:20:56 AM
To: main@q-list.groups.io <main@q-list.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Update: Faucet Fuel Pump Ticking Sound w/ Plenty of Fuel
 
Hey Corbin I have one in my dragonfly. It ticks and clicks too, but transfers just fine. They all do it. I just look at it as reassurance that it’s running.


On Apr 29, 2020, at 9:28 AM, Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser@...> wrote:

I couldn't find my previous thread on this so thought  I would start a new one.  My transfer pump (Faucet), when running with  plenty of fuel in the main tank, now clicks/ticks just like when the fuel is low (air).  To be sure it wasn't the fuel pump starting to fail, I went ahead and replaced it with a new one since that is a cheap and easy process.  However, the new one also clicks/ticks.  It seems to be pumping plenty of fuel as it will quickly start to return from the header, as normal.  

So, it seems the next thing to check for is air in the lines somewhere......but how/where  do I start on that?

--

Corbin 
N33QR


Re: Update: Faucet Fuel Pump Ticking Sound w/ Plenty of Fuel

Adam hied
 

Hey Corbin I have one in my dragonfly. It ticks and clicks too, but transfers just fine. They all do it. I just look at it as reassurance that it’s running.


On Apr 29, 2020, at 9:28 AM, Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser@...> wrote:

I couldn't find my previous thread on this so thought  I would start a new one.  My transfer pump (Faucet), when running with  plenty of fuel in the main tank, now clicks/ticks just like when the fuel is low (air).  To be sure it wasn't the fuel pump starting to fail, I went ahead and replaced it with a new one since that is a cheap and easy process.  However, the new one also clicks/ticks.  It seems to be pumping plenty of fuel as it will quickly start to return from the header, as normal.  

So, it seems the next thing to check for is air in the lines somewhere......but how/where  do I start on that?

--

Corbin 
N33QR


Re: Update: Faucet Fuel Pump Ticking Sound w/ Plenty of Fuel

Sam Hoskins
 

First off, IMHO, never ever use vinyl tubing. When exposed to fuel it shrinks and hardens. This can lead to air leaks at the fittings. QAC said to use the vinyl tubing, but that was over 40 years ago. 

I have found that even a very small amount of air in the lines, bubbles so small that they are difficult to see, cam make your pump rattle.

I have recently had good luck with the blue tinted urethane tubing available from Aircraft Spruce.


On Wed, Apr 29, 2020, 9:37 AM Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote:

Hi Corbin,

 

Is your line from the pump to the main tank a flexible or a hard (aluminum) line? If it is flexible, I would suggest fashioning a replacement for that line out of clear vinyl tubing, then turn on the pump and look for bubbles. If no bubbles, go back to your previous line and don’t think about it any more.  If it is a hard line, you may need to buy some barbed fittings for both tubing ends that will match the flared fitting size, but you can do the same exercise with the clear vinyl tubing.

 

Just FYI, I have two identical Facet pumps that were installed at the same time 90 operational hours ago and were new out of the box. One of them pumps the output from the fuel selector directly to the throttle body regulator and is very quiet. The other pumps from the main to the header and is very noisy, so go figure. As long as your pump is new, is not pumping air (check with temporary vinyl line), and is moving fuel at the rate you need, you should be good to go. In other words, I do not think noise is a firm diagnostic.

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Corbin via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 7:29 AM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: [Q-List] Update: Faucet Fuel Pump Ticking Sound w/ Plenty of Fuel

 

I couldn't find my previous thread on this so thought  I would start a new one.  My transfer pump (Faucet), when running with  plenty of fuel in the main tank, now clicks/ticks just like when the fuel is low (air).  To be sure it wasn't the fuel pump starting to fail, I went ahead and replaced it with a new one since that is a cheap and easy process.  However, the new one also clicks/ticks.  It seems to be pumping plenty of fuel as it will quickly start to return from the header, as normal.  

So, it seems the next thing to check for is air in the lines somewhere......but how/where  do I start on that?

--

Corbin 
N33QR


Re: Update: Faucet Fuel Pump Ticking Sound w/ Plenty of Fuel

Jay Scheevel
 

Hi Corbin,

 

Is your line from the pump to the main tank a flexible or a hard (aluminum) line? If it is flexible, I would suggest fashioning a replacement for that line out of clear vinyl tubing, then turn on the pump and look for bubbles. If no bubbles, go back to your previous line and don’t think about it any more.  If it is a hard line, you may need to buy some barbed fittings for both tubing ends that will match the flared fitting size, but you can do the same exercise with the clear vinyl tubing.

 

Just FYI, I have two identical Facet pumps that were installed at the same time 90 operational hours ago and were new out of the box. One of them pumps the output from the fuel selector directly to the throttle body regulator and is very quiet. The other pumps from the main to the header and is very noisy, so go figure. As long as your pump is new, is not pumping air (check with temporary vinyl line), and is moving fuel at the rate you need, you should be good to go. In other words, I do not think noise is a firm diagnostic.

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Corbin via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 7:29 AM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: [Q-List] Update: Faucet Fuel Pump Ticking Sound w/ Plenty of Fuel

 

I couldn't find my previous thread on this so thought  I would start a new one.  My transfer pump (Faucet), when running with  plenty of fuel in the main tank, now clicks/ticks just like when the fuel is low (air).  To be sure it wasn't the fuel pump starting to fail, I went ahead and replaced it with a new one since that is a cheap and easy process.  However, the new one also clicks/ticks.  It seems to be pumping plenty of fuel as it will quickly start to return from the header, as normal.  

So, it seems the next thing to check for is air in the lines somewhere......but how/where  do I start on that?

--

Corbin 
N33QR


Re: Update: Faucet Fuel Pump Ticking Sound w/ Plenty of Fuel

adrianbloomfield@ymail.com
 

Hi
Have you ever put any car gas in the tank, as apposed to Avgas. I’ve read that this can rot the seals in the pumps. I’ll try and find the article for you.
Ady


On 29 Apr 2020, at 15:29, Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser@...> wrote:

 Interesting and good to know.  I wonder why mine has been so quiet for so long; until now.

Corbin

On Apr 29, 2020, at 9:25 AM, adrianbloomfield@... <quickietriqadrian@...> wrote:

 Hi Corbin
I have 3 Faucet pumps on my Tr Q. They also click and tick. I’ve never thought anything of it. Even when I installed my 3rd, it made the same noise.
Hope this helps
Ady    G-FARY.   UK


On 29 Apr 2020, at 14:29, Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser@...> wrote:

I couldn't find my previous thread on this so thought  I would start a new one.  My transfer pump (Faucet), when running with  plenty of fuel in the main tank, now clicks/ticks just like when the fuel is low (air).  To be sure it wasn't the fuel pump starting to fail, I went ahead and replaced it with a new one since that is a cheap and easy process.  However, the new one also clicks/ticks.  It seems to be pumping plenty of fuel as it will quickly start to return from the header, as normal.  

So, it seems the next thing to check for is air in the lines somewhere......but how/where  do I start on that?

--

Corbin 
N33QR

--

Corbin 
N33QR


Re: Update: Faucet Fuel Pump Ticking Sound w/ Plenty of Fuel

Corbin
 

Interesting and good to know.  I wonder why mine has been so quiet for so long; until now.

Corbin

On Apr 29, 2020, at 9:25 AM, adrianbloomfield@... <quickietriqadrian@...> wrote:

 Hi Corbin
I have 3 Faucet pumps on my Tr Q. They also click and tick. I’ve never thought anything of it. Even when I installed my 3rd, it made the same noise.
Hope this helps
Ady    G-FARY.   UK


On 29 Apr 2020, at 14:29, Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser@...> wrote:

I couldn't find my previous thread on this so thought  I would start a new one.  My transfer pump (Faucet), when running with  plenty of fuel in the main tank, now clicks/ticks just like when the fuel is low (air).  To be sure it wasn't the fuel pump starting to fail, I went ahead and replaced it with a new one since that is a cheap and easy process.  However, the new one also clicks/ticks.  It seems to be pumping plenty of fuel as it will quickly start to return from the header, as normal.  

So, it seems the next thing to check for is air in the lines somewhere......but how/where  do I start on that?

--

Corbin 
N33QR

--

Corbin 
N33QR


Re: Update: Faucet Fuel Pump Ticking Sound w/ Plenty of Fuel

adrianbloomfield@ymail.com
 

Hi Corbin
I have 3 Faucet pumps on my Tr Q. They also click and tick. I’ve never thought anything of it. Even when I installed my 3rd, it made the same noise.
Hope this helps
Ady    G-FARY.   UK


On 29 Apr 2020, at 14:29, Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser@...> wrote:

I couldn't find my previous thread on this so thought  I would start a new one.  My transfer pump (Faucet), when running with  plenty of fuel in the main tank, now clicks/ticks just like when the fuel is low (air).  To be sure it wasn't the fuel pump starting to fail, I went ahead and replaced it with a new one since that is a cheap and easy process.  However, the new one also clicks/ticks.  It seems to be pumping plenty of fuel as it will quickly start to return from the header, as normal.  

So, it seems the next thing to check for is air in the lines somewhere......but how/where  do I start on that?

--

Corbin 
N33QR


Update: Faucet Fuel Pump Ticking Sound w/ Plenty of Fuel

Corbin
 

I couldn't find my previous thread on this so thought  I would start a new one.  My transfer pump (Faucet), when running with  plenty of fuel in the main tank, now clicks/ticks just like when the fuel is low (air).  To be sure it wasn't the fuel pump starting to fail, I went ahead and replaced it with a new one since that is a cheap and easy process.  However, the new one also clicks/ticks.  It seems to be pumping plenty of fuel as it will quickly start to return from the header, as normal.  

So, it seems the next thing to check for is air in the lines somewhere......but how/where  do I start on that?

--

Corbin 
N33QR


Re: Q2 Project

Dave Hudak
 

Hi Brad, 
Any chance I could get a copy of what you have drawn thus far? I have a Q2 that I rebuilt years ago with a Subaru 1.8 liter, then crashed. I need to replace the canard and firewall and thought maybe a new drawing would help get me going on the the effort.  So any SolidWorks drawing would be much appreciated. 
The bird has been hanging from the ceiling since 2005 and I finally have the house at a point where I can think about the QBird......200 hours of the most fun I have ever had in an airplane!
Dave






On Apr 27, 2020, at 5:01 PM, sky_kid1080 <fly-boy1080@...> wrote:



I have some of the plane drawn up in solidworks I’d be willing to team up with someone and get it finished up. I have my own Q2 to finish and I like to do things right the first time. Sorry I know this is an older message and I don’t respond often.

Thanks,
Brad

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Jay Scheevel
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 3:42 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Q2 Project

 

If you read the part of the plans about installing the bulkheads, they allow the builder to vary the angle and size of that bulkhead to compensate for pilot size. There is also some variation allowed in the forward/back position of the main tank for the same reason.  I would just suggest rotating the base of the bulkhead backward until it intersects the fuselage. The original plan required a lot of cutting and fitting. The 4 fuselage shells were oversized and needed to be trimmed and there were no marks to help the builder do this, only small drawings. There was a lot of work involved to get a good fit between fuselage and bulkheads. No two of these planes are identical once they are complete.

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Eugen Pilarski
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 1:21 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Q2 Project

 

Yup, that’s right. Do you have a angel between the seat bulkhead top und bottom? Not sure which angle they should? Something else between 130° and 150° maybe?

 

Eugen

 

Am 24.04.2020 um 20:28 schrieb Jay Scheevel <jay@...>:

 

Your seatback bulkhead (the inclined portion) needs to intersect the bottom of the fuselage. 

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Eugen Pilarski
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 12:16 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Q2 Project

 

Here we go :-)

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<image002.png>

 

 


Re: Q2 Project

Robert Cringely
 

Personally, I’m in no hurry to fly with the angels. 

On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 4:00 PM sky_kid1080 <fly-boy1080@...> wrote:

I have some of the plane drawn up in solidworks I’d be willing to team up with someone and get it finished up. I have my own Q2 to finish and I like to do things right the first time. Sorry I know this is an older message and I don’t respond often.

Thanks,
Brad

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Jay Scheevel
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 3:42 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Q2 Project

 

If you read the part of the plans about installing the bulkheads, they allow the builder to vary the angle and size of that bulkhead to compensate for pilot size. There is also some variation allowed in the forward/back position of the main tank for the same reason.  I would just suggest rotating the base of the bulkhead backward until it intersects the fuselage. The original plan required a lot of cutting and fitting. The 4 fuselage shells were oversized and needed to be trimmed and there were no marks to help the builder do this, only small drawings. There was a lot of work involved to get a good fit between fuselage and bulkheads. No two of these planes are identical once they are complete.

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Eugen Pilarski
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 1:21 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Q2 Project

 

Yup, that’s right. Do you have a angel between the seat bulkhead top und bottom? Not sure which angle they should? Something else between 130° and 150° maybe?

 

Eugen

 

Am 24.04.2020 um 20:28 schrieb Jay Scheevel <jay@...>:

 

Your seatback bulkhead (the inclined portion) needs to intersect the bottom of the fuselage. 

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Eugen Pilarski
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 12:16 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Q2 Project

 

Here we go :-)

<image001.png>

<image002.png>

 

 


Re: Q2 Project

sky_kid1080
 

I have some of the plane drawn up in solidworks I’d be willing to team up with someone and get it finished up. I have my own Q2 to finish and I like to do things right the first time. Sorry I know this is an older message and I don’t respond often.

Thanks,
Brad

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Jay Scheevel
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 3:42 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Q2 Project

 

If you read the part of the plans about installing the bulkheads, they allow the builder to vary the angle and size of that bulkhead to compensate for pilot size. There is also some variation allowed in the forward/back position of the main tank for the same reason.  I would just suggest rotating the base of the bulkhead backward until it intersects the fuselage. The original plan required a lot of cutting and fitting. The 4 fuselage shells were oversized and needed to be trimmed and there were no marks to help the builder do this, only small drawings. There was a lot of work involved to get a good fit between fuselage and bulkheads. No two of these planes are identical once they are complete.

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Eugen Pilarski
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 1:21 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Q2 Project

 

Yup, that’s right. Do you have a angel between the seat bulkhead top und bottom? Not sure which angle they should? Something else between 130° and 150° maybe?

 

Eugen

 

Am 24.04.2020 um 20:28 schrieb Jay Scheevel <jay@...>:

 

Your seatback bulkhead (the inclined portion) needs to intersect the bottom of the fuselage. 

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Eugen Pilarski
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 12:16 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Q2 Project

 

Here we go :-)

<image001.png>

<image002.png>

 

 


Re: Oil return tubes

Bruce Crain
 

I like the looks of the JayCee oil return tubes!  Bruce 


On Apr 26, 2020, at 9:14 AM, Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...> wrote:

Sweet!  Hope it doesn’t take long.  The best flying weather is here! 
Bruce


On Apr 25, 2020, at 8:10 PM, Dave Dugas via groups.io <davedq2@...> wrote:

Bruce
They are JayCee pushrod tubes, spring loaded and good reviews too. I have them on now and I'm going to redo them....new O rings. They look like yours.


On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 7:54 PM, Bruce Crain
<jcrain2@...> wrote:
Maybe you could have a machinist help you produce return oil tubes like the ones in my picture.  It's been awhile since I flew a VW so I can't remember how they are configured.  My VW didn't like me very much so I am in awe of you expertise!
Bruce

---------- Original Message ----------
From: "Dave Dugas via groups.io" <davedq2@...>
To: "main@Q-List.groups.io" <main@Q-List.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Oil return tubes
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2020 22:58:32 +0000 (UTC)

Looks good Bruce. I'll be redoing the pushrod tubes on the Remaster for my annual. Mine leak a bit too...... I hate oil leaks.
Dave D

 

On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 6:21 PM, Bruce Crain
<jcrain2@...> wrote:
I installed the port oil return tubes several months ago and just recently fixed an oil seep around the left front cylinder base thru bolts and was bragging about how I don’t have any oil on the belly of my TrQ 200.
Then I noticed the starboard side of the belly started to have a small stream of oil on it.  So I pulled the cowl and the older model oil return tubes were seeping a bit.
So today I replaced the last 4 oil return tubes on the starboard side.  Hoping for the best.
In the mean time while I have the exhaust off on the starboard side I took it into a welder to weld little bumps on the pipe inside the cockpit heat muff to make more heat inside the cockpit.  Hoping to get it back in the air next week and see how everything works out!
Stay tuned!
Bruce Crain
 
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