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Re: Worst Landing to Date Today #flight_reports

Mike Dwyer
 

Been there.  Yes, when coming in too hot I have held it off too long and if you hit tail wheel first it slams the mains onto the runway.  The opposite is, If you touch down too fast, that will result in a bounce and you should go around.  Bottom line - airspeed control over the fence is critical with the Q200 for a pretty landing.  Check your tail wheel pivot bolt if you have one.  Per plans it's an AN3 and I bend mine a lot!
Mike Dwyer Q200

YouTube Videos: https://goo.gl/yKEHfK
Q200 Website: http://goo.gl/V8IrJF


On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 4:43 PM Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
Well, the flight was great but the landing had tons of room for improvement.  In fact, it was my worst landing in all my 843 hours (only 56 hrs in the Q200 though).  Thought I would share on this quiet afternoon in case  anyone notices anything I am not thinking of that could have contributed.  Hard to do without being there, I know.

I had the reflexor "deployed" as usual and was good'ish on airspeed across the numbers.  Maybe a little fast at 90mph but had 7,000ft of runway to bleed it off.  I had the power out, floated some, and let it settle but didn't realize I was getting the nose a bit high.  Airspeed bled off fast and I plopped it down.  Then was holding on for a wild ride on the rollout since I came down harder than normal.  I was going left of the centerline quickly and it didn't seem to want to go right much with my quick jabs on the right pedal. 

It was acting as if the tailwheel wasn't down...but surely it had to be.  Anyway, as I was going left of centerline at a near 30 degree angle it seemed fast again.  Could have just seemed fast since I wasn't going straight down the runway like normal.  That's the point where I glanced down at the tach and think I saw 850rpm.  Honestly, I am not  sure what  my normal rpm is right after touch down.  Since my hand was still on the throttle, I think I was still holding it all the way out but maybe I pulled the rest of the power out at that point?  I wonder if I had accidentally put some throttle back in when I plopped it down  because it seemed I plopped it down slow and then it darted left.

It sure was frustrating as I slowly got back to centerline and taxied all the way back to the hangar.  Some things I know I did wrong were I definitely didn't fly it all the way to the ground and stalled it a little high by getting nose high to high from the pavement.  But the high RPM or possibility of power still in sure did add to the wild ride.

The short flight before that sure was great though!

Corbin Ge!ser

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Corbin 
N33QR

Re: Worst Landing to Date Today #flight_reports

Corbin
 

Well, if I had bounced, I might have had opportunity but this just plopped down and stuck.  Since I floated a bit they had to send the plane behind me on go-around east of runway.  So knowing a plane would be above me or off my left wing,  I committed to trying to keep it back on centerline.

Corbin

On June 11, 2020 at 4:02 PM, Paul Fisher <rv7a.n18pf@...> wrote:

Corbin,
I'm not being critical, but I suggest to people if they bounce it like that, give it full power and go around.  With full power the rudder is effective and you can typically straighten it out pretty easily.

The problem with bouncing it in is the canard breaks on the third bounce.  We've had a number of people prove that.  With full power you might bounce a second time, but not a third.  So it's best to arrest it after the first.

I know it is tempting to try to save the landing, especially with 7000 feet of concrete in front of you.  But I still recommend full power and go around.  With another couple hundred hours, you'll learn to save it (it starts with full power!), but until then just go around.  If nothing else it gives you a little time to think about what went wrong!

If it makes you feel better, I still have a landing like you describe every once in a while, and I often still go around.  I figure I must need the practice, so I might as well do it again!

Paul Fisher
Q-200 N17PF, ~1650 hours over 30 years

On Thu, Jun 11, 2020, 15:43 Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
Well, the flight was great but the landing had tons of room for improvement.  In fact, it was my worst landing in all my 843 hours (only 56 hrs in the Q200 though).  Thought I would share on this quiet afternoon in case  anyone notices anything I am not thinking of that could have contributed.  Hard to do without being there, I know.

I had the reflexor "deployed" as usual and was good'ish on airspeed across the numbers.  Maybe a little fast at 90mph but had 7,000ft of runway to bleed it off.  I had the power out, floated some, and let it settle but didn't realize I was getting the nose a bit high.  Airspeed bled off fast and I plopped it down.  Then was holding on for a wild ride on the rollout since I came down harder than normal.  I was going left of the centerline quickly and it didn't seem to want to go right much with my quick jabs on the right pedal. 

It was acting as if the tailwheel wasn't down...but surely it had to be.  Anyway, as I was going left of centerline at a near 30 degree angle it seemed fast again.  Could have just seemed fast since I wasn't going straight down the runway like normal.  That's the point where I glanced down at the tach and think I saw 850rpm.  Honestly, I am not  sure what  my normal rpm is right after touch down.  Since my hand was still on the throttle, I think I was still holding it all the way out but maybe I pulled the rest of the power out at that point?  I wonder if I had accidentally put some throttle back in when I plopped it down  because it seemed I plopped it down slow and then it darted left.

It sure was frustrating as I slowly got back to centerline and taxied all the way back to the hangar.  Some things I know I did wrong were I definitely didn't fly it all the way to the ground and stalled it a little high by getting nose high to high from the pavement.  But the high RPM or possibility of power still in sure did add to the wild ride.

The short flight before that sure was great though!

Corbin Ge!ser

--

Corbin 
N33QR






--

Corbin 
N33QR
Re: Worst Landing to Date Today #flight_reports

Paul Fisher
 

Corbin,
I'm not being critical, but I suggest to people if they bounce it like that, give it full power and go around.  With full power the rudder is effective and you can typically straighten it out pretty easily.

The problem with bouncing it in is the canard breaks on the third bounce.  We've had a number of people prove that.  With full power you might bounce a second time, but not a third.  So it's best to arrest it after the first.

I know it is tempting to try to save the landing, especially with 7000 feet of concrete in front of you.  But I still recommend full power and go around.  With another couple hundred hours, you'll learn to save it (it starts with full power!), but until then just go around.  If nothing else it gives you a little time to think about what went wrong!

If it makes you feel better, I still have a landing like you describe every once in a while, and I often still go around.  I figure I must need the practice, so I might as well do it again!

Paul Fisher
Q-200 N17PF, ~1650 hours over 30 years


On Thu, Jun 11, 2020, 15:43 Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
Well, the flight was great but the landing had tons of room for improvement.  In fact, it was my worst landing in all my 843 hours (only 56 hrs in the Q200 though).  Thought I would share on this quiet afternoon in case  anyone notices anything I am not thinking of that could have contributed.  Hard to do without being there, I know.

I had the reflexor "deployed" as usual and was good'ish on airspeed across the numbers.  Maybe a little fast at 90mph but had 7,000ft of runway to bleed it off.  I had the power out, floated some, and let it settle but didn't realize I was getting the nose a bit high.  Airspeed bled off fast and I plopped it down.  Then was holding on for a wild ride on the rollout since I came down harder than normal.  I was going left of the centerline quickly and it didn't seem to want to go right much with my quick jabs on the right pedal. 

It was acting as if the tailwheel wasn't down...but surely it had to be.  Anyway, as I was going left of centerline at a near 30 degree angle it seemed fast again.  Could have just seemed fast since I wasn't going straight down the runway like normal.  That's the point where I glanced down at the tach and think I saw 850rpm.  Honestly, I am not  sure what  my normal rpm is right after touch down.  Since my hand was still on the throttle, I think I was still holding it all the way out but maybe I pulled the rest of the power out at that point?  I wonder if I had accidentally put some throttle back in when I plopped it down  because it seemed I plopped it down slow and then it darted left.

It sure was frustrating as I slowly got back to centerline and taxied all the way back to the hangar.  Some things I know I did wrong were I definitely didn't fly it all the way to the ground and stalled it a little high by getting nose high to high from the pavement.  But the high RPM or possibility of power still in sure did add to the wild ride.

The short flight before that sure was great though!

Corbin Ge!ser

--

Corbin 
N33QR

Worst Landing to Date Today #flight_reports

Corbin
 

Well, the flight was great but the landing had tons of room for improvement.  In fact, it was my worst landing in all my 843 hours (only 56 hrs in the Q200 though).  Thought I would share on this quiet afternoon in case  anyone notices anything I am not thinking of that could have contributed.  Hard to do without being there, I know.

I had the reflexor "deployed" as usual and was good'ish on airspeed across the numbers.  Maybe a little fast at 90mph but had 7,000ft of runway to bleed it off.  I had the power out, floated some, and let it settle but didn't realize I was getting the nose a bit high.  Airspeed bled off fast and I plopped it down.  Then was holding on for a wild ride on the rollout since I came down harder than normal.  I was going left of the centerline quickly and it didn't seem to want to go right much with my quick jabs on the right pedal. 

It was acting as if the tailwheel wasn't down...but surely it had to be.  Anyway, as I was going left of centerline at a near 30 degree angle it seemed fast again.  Could have just seemed fast since I wasn't going straight down the runway like normal.  That's the point where I glanced down at the tach and think I saw 850rpm.  Honestly, I am not  sure what  my normal rpm is right after touch down.  Since my hand was still on the throttle, I think I was still holding it all the way out but maybe I pulled the rest of the power out at that point?  I wonder if I had accidentally put some throttle back in when I plopped it down  because it seemed I plopped it down slow and then it darted left.

It sure was frustrating as I slowly got back to centerline and taxied all the way back to the hangar.  Some things I know I did wrong were I definitely didn't fly it all the way to the ground and stalled it a little high by getting nose high to high from the pavement.  But the high RPM or possibility of power still in sure did add to the wild ride.

The short flight before that sure was great though!

Corbin Ge!ser

--

Corbin 
N33QR
Re: Fighter Control Stick

Jay Scheevel
 

Parting out your airplane, Jerry?

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jerry Marstall
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2020 7:25 AM
To: Jerry Marstall <jnmarstall@...>
Subject: [Q-List] Fighter Control Stick

 

Does anyone need an “as new” military style control stick?  See attachment - 4-buttons, trigger, coolie hat. Have the schematic.  List $200 plus.  $100 or best offer.

828-712-9779

Jerry

 

 

 
Fighter Control Stick

Jerry Marstall <jnmarstall@...>
 

Does anyone need an “as new” military style control stick?  See attachment - 4-buttons, trigger, coolie hat. Have the schematic.  List $200 plus.  $100 or best offer.

828-712-9779

Jerry

 

 

 
Re: Corvair Engine Mount Specs

britmcman99
 

Hey Vern:  I have a brother In Manford, has a water wheel feature in his front yard. Phil


On Jun 10, 2020, at 5:48 AM, Lawrence Wade <lawrencewade@...> wrote:

Thanks all for the input.

Larry
Ellenton, FL

Re: W&B for Q2 with 75hp Revmaster (LS Canard)

Jay Scheevel
 

I totally agree with everything that Paul just said. It is easy-peasy if you have a plumb-bob, a carpenter’s square, a tape measure, and three scales. Go for it.

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Paul Fisher
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2020 7:17 AM
To: main@q-list.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] W&B for Q2 with 75hp Revmaster (LS Canard)

 

The way to find the pilot/copilot arm is to climb in and weigh the plane again.  A little algebra will let you calculate the arm.  It's way more accurate than trying to measure a center of mass of a reclined pilot.  I did the same thing for each fuel tank and baggage.

 

Once you have the plane leveled on the scales it's just a matter of taking multiple readings as you load up the plane.  From there it's just math.  The only measuring you need is to find the exact location of each of the landing gear relative to the datum.

 

Since each plane is hand made, you should NOT depend on anyone else's arm lengths.

 

Just my opinion.

 

Paul Fisher

Q-200 N17PF

 

On Wed, Jun 10, 2020, 07:22 Joe Hood <joe.hood@...> wrote:

Thanks! I can only imagine, over time, the weight has changed. I've seen a couple different numbers for arm distance for the pilot/co-pilot but that should be a matter of measuring from the firewall.

 

On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 4:22 PM Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote:

I would suggest just doing the W&B yourself. I have seen too many that were incorrect or out of date, and this way you know it is correct. It is easy to do if someone on your field has some calibrated scales.

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joe Hood
Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2020 2:16 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: [Q-List] W&B for Q2 with 75hp Revmaster (LS Canard)

 

Trying to get weight and balance from the former owner (still working on it--what I have is empty weight is 610). I've seen Martin Skiby's Q-200 W&B but that's 100hp versus the Revmaster with the bigger heads at 75hp.


Thanks,
Joe
Re: W&B for Q2 with 75hp Revmaster (LS Canard)

Paul Fisher
 

The way to find the pilot/copilot arm is to climb in and weigh the plane again.  A little algebra will let you calculate the arm.  It's way more accurate than trying to measure a center of mass of a reclined pilot.  I did the same thing for each fuel tank and baggage.

Once you have the plane leveled on the scales it's just a matter of taking multiple readings as you load up the plane.  From there it's just math.  The only measuring you need is to find the exact location of each of the landing gear relative to the datum.

Since each plane is hand made, you should NOT depend on anyone else's arm lengths.

Just my opinion.

Paul Fisher
Q-200 N17PF

On Wed, Jun 10, 2020, 07:22 Joe Hood <joe.hood@...> wrote:
Thanks! I can only imagine, over time, the weight has changed. I've seen a couple different numbers for arm distance for the pilot/co-pilot but that should be a matter of measuring from the firewall.

On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 4:22 PM Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote:

I would suggest just doing the W&B yourself. I have seen too many that were incorrect or out of date, and this way you know it is correct. It is easy to do if someone on your field has some calibrated scales.

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joe Hood
Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2020 2:16 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: [Q-List] W&B for Q2 with 75hp Revmaster (LS Canard)

 

Trying to get weight and balance from the former owner (still working on it--what I have is empty weight is 610). I've seen Martin Skiby's Q-200 W&B but that's 100hp versus the Revmaster with the bigger heads at 75hp.


Thanks,
Joe
Re: W&B for Q2 with 75hp Revmaster (LS Canard)

Bruce Crain
 

If I remember correctly the datum is 14" in front of the firewall.  But it has been years since I did weight and balance so someone help me out here.
Bruce


---------- Original Message ----------
From: "Joe Hood" <joe.hood@...>
To: "main@Q-List.groups.io Group Moderators" <main@q-list.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] W&B for Q2 with 75hp Revmaster (LS Canard)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2020 08:22:23 -0400

Thanks! I can only imagine, over time, the weight has changed. I've seen a couple different numbers for arm distance for the pilot/co-pilot but that should be a matter of measuring from the firewall.

 

On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 4:22 PM Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote:

I would suggest just doing the W&B yourself. I have seen too many that were incorrect or out of date, and this way you know it is correct. It is easy to do if someone on your field has some calibrated scales.

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joe Hood
Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2020 2:16 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: [Q-List] W&B for Q2 with 75hp Revmaster (LS Canard)

 

Trying to get weight and balance from the former owner (still working on it--what I have is empty weight is 610). I've seen Martin Skiby's Q-200 W&B but that's 100hp versus the Revmaster with the bigger heads at 75hp.


Thanks,
Joe

 

 

 
Re: Corvair Engine Mount Specs

Lawrence Wade
 

Thanks all for the input.

Larry
Ellenton, FL
Re: W&B for Q2 with 75hp Revmaster (LS Canard)

Joe Hood
 

Thanks! I can only imagine, over time, the weight has changed. I've seen a couple different numbers for arm distance for the pilot/co-pilot but that should be a matter of measuring from the firewall.


On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 4:22 PM Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote:

I would suggest just doing the W&B yourself. I have seen too many that were incorrect or out of date, and this way you know it is correct. It is easy to do if someone on your field has some calibrated scales.

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joe Hood
Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2020 2:16 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: [Q-List] W&B for Q2 with 75hp Revmaster (LS Canard)

 

Trying to get weight and balance from the former owner (still working on it--what I have is empty weight is 610). I've seen Martin Skiby's Q-200 W&B but that's 100hp versus the Revmaster with the bigger heads at 75hp.


Thanks,
Joe
Re: W&B for Q2 with 75hp Revmaster (LS Canard)

Jay Scheevel
 

I would suggest just doing the W&B yourself. I have seen too many that were incorrect or out of date, and this way you know it is correct. It is easy to do if someone on your field has some calibrated scales.

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joe Hood
Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2020 2:16 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: [Q-List] W&B for Q2 with 75hp Revmaster (LS Canard)

 

Trying to get weight and balance from the former owner (still working on it--what I have is empty weight is 610). I've seen Martin Skiby's Q-200 W&B but that's 100hp versus the Revmaster with the bigger heads at 75hp.


Thanks,
Joe
W&B for Q2 with 75hp Revmaster (LS Canard)

Joe Hood
 

Trying to get weight and balance from the former owner (still working on it--what I have is empty weight is 610). I've seen Martin Skiby's Q-200 W&B but that's 100hp versus the Revmaster with the bigger heads at 75hp.


Thanks,
Joe
Re: Spring Fling

Kevin Boddicker
 

John,
DEH Decorah Iowa.

On Jun 8, 2020, at 12:00 PM, John Hoxie via groups.io <hoxdesigns@...> wrote:

Kevin or someone,

Please remind us what airport the summer fling is at.

 
John Hoxie
He is no fool, who gives up what he can not keep, to gain what he can not loose -- Jim Elliot


On Sunday, June 7, 2020, 08:37:52 AM MDT, Kevin Boddicker <trumanst@...> wrote:


Listers,
Bruce keeps gently prodding me, see his closing remark, to pick a date for the delayed Fling.
I am open.

Thoughts:
July 17,18, 19 would have been the WE before what would have been OSH.
July 17 - 21 with emphasis on the weekend, but stay as long as you can stand it.

I picked that time, as it would be the same time, as most planning to attend OSH would have time off. The next WE would be a rush to get home and back to work. 

Remember work all you old retired BAST..DS?

So, Bruskiskavitch there you have it. Hope the attendance will be great! 

It can’t rain for five days can it?

Plenty of motels in Decorah.

Super 8  older
Quality Inn older
Country Inn & Suites nice
Fairfield Inn new
Hotel Winneshiek (Downtown) very old, nostalgic, expensive but nice 

Lets see a show of hands boys and girls.

Mike Dwyer, its only 1187' above sea level. Yesterday DA was 2200’.


Kevin Boddicker
TriQ 200 N7868B   512 hrs
Luana, IA.

Begin forwarded message:

From: "Bruce Crain" <jcrain2@...>
Subject: ADV: Re: [Q-List] Second Q-List Zoom meeting this coming Saturday, June 6 - featuring Sam Hoskins' Q-200
Date: June 6, 2020 at 3:45:07 PM CDT
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Reply-To: main@Q-List.groups.io

Sorry I couldn’t’t catch the Zoom meet but I did jump on YouTube!  Had a funeral for an “old friend” (who was actually younger than me). 
Great job Sammy!  Your perseverance is unmatched as well as your speed in rebuilding and airspeed!  
Hope to see you in July!
Bruski
Re: Second Q-List Zoom meeting this coming Saturday, June 6 - featuring Sam Hoskins' Q-200

Brian Larick
 

I have a kit and no time.  I’m looking at options.  Also working on my Instrument...shooting for a check ride in the next few weeks.  Feel like I don’t know anything.  :D.

Brian

On Jun 8, 2020, at 20:48, allen relseg via groups.io <mrelseg@...> wrote:


Hello Brian L....
Well you haven't missed anything in Lima..lol
Nothing new here, we do have less traffic.
Are you building a Q ?
Mark

On Saturday, June 6, 2020, 06:08:47 PM EDT, Brian Larick <blarick@...> wrote:


Mark,Q200/60% Lima OH...

I’m in Columbus, grew up in Lima.  Drop me a note.

Brian Larick

On Jun 6, 2020, at 16:46, Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...> wrote:


Sorry I couldn’t’t catch the Zoom meet but I did jump on YouTube!  Had a funeral for an “old friend” (who was actually younger than me). 
Great job Sammy!  Your perseverance is unmatched as well as your speed in rebuilding and airspeed!  
Hope to see you in July!
Bruski
Re: Second Q-List Zoom meeting this coming Saturday, June 6 - featuring Sam Hoskins' Q-200

allen relseg
 

Hello Brian L....
Well you haven't missed anything in Lima..lol
Nothing new here, we do have less traffic.
Are you building a Q ?
Mark

On Saturday, June 6, 2020, 06:08:47 PM EDT, Brian Larick <blarick@...> wrote:


Mark,Q200/60% Lima OH...

I’m in Columbus, grew up in Lima.  Drop me a note.

Brian Larick

On Jun 6, 2020, at 16:46, Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...> wrote:


Sorry I couldn’t’t catch the Zoom meet but I did jump on YouTube!  Had a funeral for an “old friend” (who was actually younger than me). 
Great job Sammy!  Your perseverance is unmatched as well as your speed in rebuilding and airspeed!  
Hope to see you in July!
Bruski
Re: Field Of Dreams Question

millenniumflier@...
 

A BIG Cake!  Yup,  i just pulled out the DVD that i made for the 20th annual Fly-in and it was held Sept 24-26 2010.  Same with the T shirts we had made for that year, i just pulled mine out too, yup, i stil have it!  :-)  and same thing, the 20th annual event was in 2010. So , if i'm counting in base 10, this year should be the 30th....  big milestone for us!  Definitely something to celebrate!


-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...>
To: main <main@Q-List.groups.io>
Sent: Mon, Jun 8, 2020 3:27 pm
Subject: [Q-List] Field Of Dreams Question

Howdy to all from Oklahoma and apparently "The Tiger Capitol of the World"!  teeth_smile
Say Alan Thayer and I were batting it around and thought we should ask if anyone knows what years this is for the  Quickie Gathering?
Alan is speculating it is the 30th.  And I don't have a clue.
Maybe we should bake a cake!
Bruce Crain
Field Of Dreams Question

Bruce Crain
 

Howdy to all from Oklahoma and apparently "The Tiger Capitol of the World"!  teeth_smile
Say Alan Thayer and I were batting it around and thought we should ask if anyone knows what years this is for the  Quickie Gathering?
Alan is speculating it is the 30th.  And I don't have a clue.
Maybe we should bake a cake!
Bruce Crain
Re: Spring Fling

Bruce Crain
 

Sweet!
I have only one thing to fix on the TriQ 200 N96BJ and that is a tach coming this week and I am pumped and ready!  I like the extra days (July 17-21)  to stick around if WX doesn't cooperate.  And like Paul I don't have to hit the time clock but Honey Lamb might need to ask for a few extra days.  Honey Lamb doubles as my "Sugar Mamma" so she works a bit.Yes I am truly a blessed man!
On a side note Alan Thayer has been "prodding" me for info on the "Field Of Dreams" event and info.  I will try to get myself together and see if I can make that happen.  So stay tuned folks for a future post
 
Sufficiently Prodded Bruce Crain 

---------- Original Message ----------
From: "Kevin  Boddicker" <trumanst@...>
To: Q List <Q-List@groups.io>
Subject: [Q-List] Spring Fling
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2020 09:37:13 -0500

Listers,

Bruce keeps gently prodding me, see his closing remark, to pick a date for the delayed Fling.
I am open.
 
Thoughts:
 
July 17,18, 19 would have been the WE before what would have been OSH.
July 17 - 21 with emphasis on the weekend, but stay as long as you can stand it.
 
I picked that time, as it would be the same time, as most planning to attend OSH would have time off. The next WE would be a rush to get home and back to work. 
 
Remember work all you old retired BAST..DS?
 
So, Bruskiskavitch there you have it. Hope the attendance will be great! 
 
It can’t rain for five days can it?
 
Plenty of motels in Decorah.
 
Super 8  older
Quality Inn older
Country Inn & Suites nice
Fairfield Inn new
Hotel Winneshiek (Downtown) very old, nostalgic, expensive but nice 
 
Lets see a show of hands boys and girls.
 
Mike Dwyer, its only 1187' above sea level. Yesterday DA was 2200’.
 

Kevin Boddicker
TriQ 200 N7868B   512 hrs
Luana, IA.



Begin forwarded message:
From: "Bruce Crain" <jcrain2@...>
Subject: ADV: Re: [Q-List] Second Q-List Zoom meeting this coming Saturday, June 6 - featuring Sam Hoskins' Q-200
Date: June 6, 2020 at 3:45:07 PM CDT

Sorry I couldn’t’t catch the Zoom meet but I did jump on YouTube!  Had a funeral for an “old friend” (who was actually younger than me). 
Great job Sammy!  Your perseverance is unmatched as well as your speed in rebuilding and airspeed!  
Hope to see you in July!
Bruski
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