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Worst Landing to Date Today
#flight_reports
Well, the flight was great but the landing had tons of room for improvement. In fact, it was my worst landing in all my 843 hours (only 56 hrs in the Q200 though). Thought I would share on this quiet afternoon in case anyone notices anything I am not thinking of that could have contributed. Hard to do without being there, I know. I had the reflexor "deployed" as usual and was good'ish on airspeed across the numbers. Maybe a little fast at 90mph but had 7,000ft of runway to bleed it off. I had the power out, floated some, and let it settle but didn't realize I was getting the nose a bit high. Airspeed bled off fast and I plopped it down. Then was holding on for a wild ride on the rollout since I came down harder than normal. I was going left of the centerline quickly and it didn't seem to want to go right much with my quick jabs on the right pedal. It was acting as if the tailwheel wasn't down...but surely it had to be. Anyway, as I was going left of centerline at a near 30 degree angle it seemed fast again. Could have just seemed fast since I wasn't going straight down the runway like normal. That's the point where I glanced down at the tach and think I saw 850rpm. Honestly, I am not sure what my normal rpm is right after touch down. Since my hand was still on the throttle, I think I was still holding it all the way out but maybe I pulled the rest of the power out at that point? I wonder if I had accidentally put some throttle back in when I plopped it down because it seemed I plopped it down slow and then it darted left. It sure was frustrating as I slowly got back to centerline and taxied all the way back to the hangar. Some things I know I did wrong were I definitely didn't fly it all the way to the ground and stalled it a little high by getting nose high to high from the pavement. But the high RPM or possibility of power still in sure did add to the wild ride. The short flight before that sure was great though! Corbin Ge!ser -- Corbin N33QR
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Re: Fighter Control Stick
Parting out your airplane, Jerry?
Cheers, Jay
From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jerry Marstall
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2020 7:25 AM To: Jerry Marstall <jnmarstall@...> Subject: [Q-List] Fighter Control Stick
Does anyone need an “as new” military style control stick? See attachment - 4-buttons, trigger, coolie hat. Have the schematic. List $200 plus. $100 or best offer. 828-712-9779 Jerry
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Fighter Control Stick
Jerry Marstall <jnmarstall@...>
Does anyone need an “as new” military style control stick? See attachment - 4-buttons, trigger, coolie hat. Have the schematic. List $200 plus. $100 or best offer. 828-712-9779 Jerry
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Re: Corvair Engine Mount Specs
Hey Vern: I have a brother In Manford, has a water wheel feature in his front yard. Phil
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On Jun 10, 2020, at 5:48 AM, Lawrence Wade <lawrencewade@...> wrote:
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Re: W&B for Q2 with 75hp Revmaster (LS Canard)
I totally agree with everything that Paul just said. It is easy-peasy if you have a plumb-bob, a carpenter’s square, a tape measure, and three scales. Go for it.
Cheers, Jay
From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Paul Fisher
The way to find the pilot/copilot arm is to climb in and weigh the plane again. A little algebra will let you calculate the arm. It's way more accurate than trying to measure a center of mass of a reclined pilot. I did the same thing for each fuel tank and baggage.
Once you have the plane leveled on the scales it's just a matter of taking multiple readings as you load up the plane. From there it's just math. The only measuring you need is to find the exact location of each of the landing gear relative to the datum.
Since each plane is hand made, you should NOT depend on anyone else's arm lengths.
Just my opinion.
Paul Fisher Q-200 N17PF
On Wed, Jun 10, 2020, 07:22 Joe Hood <joe.hood@...> wrote:
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Re: W&B for Q2 with 75hp Revmaster (LS Canard)
Paul Fisher
The way to find the pilot/copilot arm is to climb in and weigh the plane again. A little algebra will let you calculate the arm. It's way more accurate than trying to measure a center of mass of a reclined pilot. I did the same thing for each fuel tank and baggage. Once you have the plane leveled on the scales it's just a matter of taking multiple readings as you load up the plane. From there it's just math. The only measuring you need is to find the exact location of each of the landing gear relative to the datum. Since each plane is hand made, you should NOT depend on anyone else's arm lengths. Just my opinion. Paul Fisher Q-200 N17PF
On Wed, Jun 10, 2020, 07:22 Joe Hood <joe.hood@...> wrote:
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Re: W&B for Q2 with 75hp Revmaster (LS Canard)
If I remember correctly the datum is 14" in front of the firewall. But it has been years since I did weight and balance so someone help me out here.
Bruce
---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Joe Hood" <joe.hood@...> To: "main@Q-List.groups.io Group Moderators" <main@q-list.groups.io> Subject: Re: [Q-List] W&B for Q2 with 75hp Revmaster (LS Canard) Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2020 08:22:23 -0400 Thanks! I can only imagine, over time, the weight has changed. I've seen a couple different numbers for arm distance for the pilot/co-pilot but that should be a matter of measuring from the firewall.
On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 4:22 PM Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote:
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Re: Corvair Engine Mount Specs
Thanks all for the input.
Larry Ellenton, FL
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Re: W&B for Q2 with 75hp Revmaster (LS Canard)
Joe Hood
Thanks! I can only imagine, over time, the weight has changed. I've seen a couple different numbers for arm distance for the pilot/co-pilot but that should be a matter of measuring from the firewall.
On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 4:22 PM Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote:
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Re: W&B for Q2 with 75hp Revmaster (LS Canard)
I would suggest just doing the W&B yourself. I have seen too many that were incorrect or out of date, and this way you know it is correct. It is easy to do if someone on your field has some calibrated scales.
Cheers, Jay
From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joe Hood
Trying to get weight and balance from the former owner (still working on it--what I have is empty weight is 610). I've seen Martin Skiby's Q-200 W&B but that's 100hp versus the Revmaster with the bigger heads at 75hp.
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W&B for Q2 with 75hp Revmaster (LS Canard)
Joe Hood
Trying to get weight and balance from the former owner (still working on it--what I have is empty weight is 610). I've seen Martin Skiby's Q-200 W&B but that's 100hp versus the Revmaster with the bigger heads at 75hp.
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Re: Spring Fling
Kevin Boddicker
John,
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DEH Decorah Iowa.
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Re: Second Q-List Zoom meeting this coming Saturday, June 6 - featuring Sam Hoskins' Q-200
Brian Larick
I have a kit and no time. I’m looking at options. Also working on my Instrument...shooting for a check ride in the next few weeks. Feel like I don’t know anything. :D.
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Brian
On Jun 8, 2020, at 20:48, allen relseg via groups.io <mrelseg@...> wrote:
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Re: Second Q-List Zoom meeting this coming Saturday, June 6 - featuring Sam Hoskins' Q-200
allen relseg
Hello Brian L.... Well you haven't missed anything in Lima..lol Nothing new here, we do have less traffic. Are you building a Q ? Mark
On Saturday, June 6, 2020, 06:08:47 PM EDT, Brian Larick <blarick@...> wrote:
Mark,Q200/60% Lima OH...
I’m in Columbus, grew up in Lima. Drop me a note.
Brian Larick
On Jun 6, 2020, at 16:46, Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...> wrote:
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Re: Field Of Dreams Question
millenniumflier@...
A BIG Cake! Yup, i just pulled out the DVD that i made for the 20th annual Fly-in and it was held Sept 24-26 2010. Same with the T shirts we had made for that year, i just pulled mine out too, yup, i stil have it! :-) and same thing, the 20th annual event was in 2010. So , if i'm counting in base 10, this year should be the 30th.... big milestone for us! Definitely something to celebrate!
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From: Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...> To: main <main@Q-List.groups.io> Sent: Mon, Jun 8, 2020 3:27 pm Subject: [Q-List] Field Of Dreams Question Howdy to all from Oklahoma and apparently "The Tiger Capitol of the World"!
 Say Alan Thayer and I were batting it around and thought we should ask if anyone knows what years this is for the Quickie Gathering?
Alan is speculating it is the 30th. And I don't have a clue.
Maybe we should bake a cake!
Bruce Crain
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Field Of Dreams Question
Howdy to all from Oklahoma and apparently "The Tiger Capitol of the World"!
Say Alan Thayer and I were batting it around and thought we should ask if anyone knows what years this is for the Quickie Gathering?
Alan is speculating it is the 30th. And I don't have a clue.
Maybe we should bake a cake!
Bruce Crain
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Re: Spring Fling
Sweet!
I have only one thing to fix on the TriQ 200 N96BJ and that is a tach coming this week and I am pumped and ready! I like the extra days (July 17-21) to stick around if WX doesn't cooperate. And like Paul I don't have to hit the time clock but Honey Lamb might need to ask for a few extra days. Honey Lamb doubles as my "Sugar Mamma" so she works a bit.Yes I am truly a blessed man!
On a side note Alan Thayer has been "prodding" me for info on the "Field Of Dreams" event and info. I will try to get myself together and see if I can make that happen. So stay tuned folks for a future post
Sufficiently Prodded Bruce Crain
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From: "Kevin Boddicker" <trumanst@...> To: Q List <Q-List@groups.io> Subject: [Q-List] Spring Fling Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2020 09:37:13 -0500 Listers, Bruce keeps gently prodding me, see his closing remark, to pick a date for the delayed Fling.
I am open.
Thoughts:
July 17,18, 19 would have been the WE before what would have been OSH.
July 17 - 21 with emphasis on the weekend, but stay as long as you can stand it.
I picked that time, as it would be the same time, as most planning to attend OSH would have time off. The next WE would be a rush to get home and back to work.
Remember work all you old retired BAST..DS?
So, Bruskiskavitch there you have it. Hope the attendance will be great!
It can’t rain for five days can it?
Plenty of motels in Decorah.
Super 8 older
Quality Inn older
Country Inn & Suites nice
Fairfield Inn new
Hotel Winneshiek (Downtown) very old, nostalgic, expensive but nice
Lets see a show of hands boys and girls.
Mike Dwyer, its only 1187' above sea level. Yesterday DA was 2200’.
Kevin Boddicker
TriQ 200 N7868B 512 hrs Luana, IA.
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Re: Spring Fling
Totally understand, Bruce. I thought you were travelling alone, and I would not want to risk Honey Lamb backing out.
Also, your definition of formation flying is probably more like Jerry’s. My definition is that I can still sort of see you, enough to stay in the same township!
Cheers, Jay
From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bruce Crain
Hi Jay! Say a couple of observations. If I flew to Broken Bow, NE it would make my trip an extra 200 miles. Not sure if Honey Lamb would tolerate that or not. She want to go with me. Also I am a bit squeamish of flying formation with anyone that doesn't have experience. Just an "old bold" thought. I am sure Jerry could verify that with his experience in the military. Bruce
Hi Kevin,
I think that I will try to make it. On planning a route, I see that Broken Bow is pretty much on the way for me. I wonder if Lynn is planning on coming? If so, maybe we could fly together. If Bruce wants to fly a little out of his way, maybe he could meet us both there and we could fly in as a Tri-ship of Tri-Q’s
Cheers, Jay
From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Boddicker
Listers, Bruce keeps gently prodding me, see his closing remark, to pick a date for the delayed Fling. I am open.
Thoughts:
July 17,18, 19 would have been the WE before what would have been OSH. July 17 - 21 with emphasis on the weekend, but stay as long as you can stand it.
I picked that time, as it would be the same time, as most planning to attend OSH would have time off. The next WE would be a rush to get home and back to work.
Remember work all you old retired BAST..DS?
So, Bruskiskavitch there you have it. Hope the attendance will be great!
It can’t rain for five days can it?
Plenty of motels in Decorah.
Super 8 older Quality Inn older Country Inn & Suites nice Fairfield Inn new Hotel Winneshiek (Downtown) very old, nostalgic, expensive but nice
Lets see a show of hands boys and girls.
Mike Dwyer, its only 1187' above sea level. Yesterday DA was 2200’.
Kevin Boddicker
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Re: Tom Moore out of Frisco?
Hi Corbin,
Could you text me at 580-478-3670 and I will send you some info that might help you get in contact with Tom Moore.
Bruce Crain
Please note: message attached From: "Corbin via groups.io" <c_geiser@...> To: "main@Q-List.groups.io" <main@Q-List.groups.io> Subject: [Q-List] Tom Moore out of Frisco? Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2020 15:19:54 -0000
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Ethanol Gas? - You must watch this video!
Mike Dwyer
If your running ethanol gas then you must watch this video!
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