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Re: 19688 Q-2 for sale

Jay Scheevel
 

Looks like a very nice plane from the photos. I think that is a C-65 engine. It also looks like it was recently rebuilt. $8000 would be a good deal.

Cheers,
Jay

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"Bill Higdon via groups.io" <willard561@...> wrote:

Look in the photo section for Lebanon Q-2


Re: 19688 Q-2 for sale

Bill Higdon
 

Look in the photo section for Lebanon Q-2


Re: 19688 Q-2 for sale

Bill Higdon
 

Ryan,

I was able to look at it and took some pictures including the front, no pronlems with the nose gear are visib;e. As soon as I find the USB cable for my camera I'll post them


Re: Brian Martinez

John Nate
 

Hi Steve:

I have heard that Brian used the Lancair nose gear and Engine mount but cannot 100% guarantee that.  I would love to know for certain (along with price and availability) as I am thinking of using a fixed nose gear on my Defiant as well.

John Nate


Re: Brian Martinez

Martin Skiby
 

Oh my gosh!  Any idea of the cause?  My son and I met him some times ago and looked at his Q200 and Defiant project.  Super nice guy.  This is very sad news.

Martin

 


On Jun 14, 2020, at 2:34 PM, Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@...> wrote:


That is sad about Brian. We had a couple of long conversations about Quickies, he was a smart fellow and I liked him. 

Yes, I saw that Joe Coraggio bought the Defiant. I've known Joe for a long time through the AirVenture Cup races.

Sam 

On Sun, Jun 14, 2020, 3:30 PM Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...> wrote:
Say I heard from Gene Knapp that Brian Martinez has passed away.  Someone has picked up his Defiante to finish it from Phoenix I believe.  That is all the info I have.  He had a great looking Q200 and came to a few of the Field Of Dreams events in the past.  Will be greatly missed!
Bruce Crain




Re: Brian Martinez

Richard Kaczmarek 3RD
 

Joe did get the Defiant home safely and will be a great care taker for it. If you ever seen his beautiful lady Betty ( Longeze ) you know Joe is a great craftsman. 

Richard 

-------- Original message --------
From: stevebrendaodle@...
Date: 6/14/20 7:33 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: main@q-list.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Brian Martinez

I recently saw a fixed  gear Defiant for sale mentioned somewhere,  was that this Defiant.
I need info on the fixed front gear.
A contact would help.
Steve Odle 

If you do nothing right, you will do nothing wrong.

On Sun, Jun 14, 2020, 6:25 PM Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...> wrote:
I hope to see his Defiant when Joe finishes it.  Brian was pretty detail oriented.  He had also done a ton of work on his house that was at Rosemond Airport I believe.
Bruce


On Jun 14, 2020, at 4:34 PM, Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@...> wrote:


That is sad about Brian. We had a couple of long conversations about Quickies, he was a smart fellow and I liked him. 

Yes, I saw that Joe Coraggio bought the Defiant. I've known Joe for a long time through the AirVenture Cup races.

Sam 

On Sun, Jun 14, 2020, 3:30 PM Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...> wrote:
Say I heard from Gene Knapp that Brian Martinez has passed away.  Someone has picked up his Defiante to finish it from Phoenix I believe.  That is all the info I have.  He had a great looking Q200 and came to a few of the Field Of Dreams events in the past.  Will be greatly missed!
Bruce Crain




Re: Brian Martinez

stevebrendaodle@...
 

I recently saw a fixed  gear Defiant for sale mentioned somewhere,  was that this Defiant.
I need info on the fixed front gear.
A contact would help.
Steve Odle 

If you do nothing right, you will do nothing wrong.


On Sun, Jun 14, 2020, 6:25 PM Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...> wrote:
I hope to see his Defiant when Joe finishes it.  Brian was pretty detail oriented.  He had also done a ton of work on his house that was at Rosemond Airport I believe.
Bruce


On Jun 14, 2020, at 4:34 PM, Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@...> wrote:


That is sad about Brian. We had a couple of long conversations about Quickies, he was a smart fellow and I liked him. 

Yes, I saw that Joe Coraggio bought the Defiant. I've known Joe for a long time through the AirVenture Cup races.

Sam 

On Sun, Jun 14, 2020, 3:30 PM Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...> wrote:
Say I heard from Gene Knapp that Brian Martinez has passed away.  Someone has picked up his Defiante to finish it from Phoenix I believe.  That is all the info I have.  He had a great looking Q200 and came to a few of the Field Of Dreams events in the past.  Will be greatly missed!
Bruce Crain




Re: Brian Martinez

Bruce Crain
 

I hope to see his Defiant when Joe finishes it.  Brian was pretty detail oriented.  He had also done a ton of work on his house that was at Rosemond Airport I believe.
Bruce


On Jun 14, 2020, at 4:34 PM, Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@...> wrote:


That is sad about Brian. We had a couple of long conversations about Quickies, he was a smart fellow and I liked him. 

Yes, I saw that Joe Coraggio bought the Defiant. I've known Joe for a long time through the AirVenture Cup races.

Sam 

On Sun, Jun 14, 2020, 3:30 PM Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...> wrote:
Say I heard from Gene Knapp that Brian Martinez has passed away.  Someone has picked up his Defiante to finish it from Phoenix I believe.  That is all the info I have.  He had a great looking Q200 and came to a few of the Field Of Dreams events in the past.  Will be greatly missed!
Bruce Crain




Re: Brian Martinez

Sam Hoskins
 

That is sad about Brian. We had a couple of long conversations about Quickies, he was a smart fellow and I liked him. 

Yes, I saw that Joe Coraggio bought the Defiant. I've known Joe for a long time through the AirVenture Cup races.

Sam 

On Sun, Jun 14, 2020, 3:30 PM Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...> wrote:
Say I heard from Gene Knapp that Brian Martinez has passed away.  Someone has picked up his Defiante to finish it from Phoenix I believe.  That is all the info I have.  He had a great looking Q200 and came to a few of the Field Of Dreams events in the past.  Will be greatly missed!
Bruce Crain




Re: Brian Martinez

Corbin
 

I noticed someone hauled the Defiant from Phoenix.  Sorry to hear about Brian.

Corbin Ge!ser

On June 14, 2020 at 3:30 PM, Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...> wrote:

Say I heard from Gene Knapp that Brian Martinez has passed away. Someone has picked up his Defiante to finish it from Phoenix I believe. That is all the info I have. He had a great looking Q200 and came to a few of the Field Of Dreams events in the past. Will be greatly missed!
Bruce Crain




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Corbin 
N33QR


Brian Martinez

Bruce Crain
 

Say I heard from Gene Knapp that Brian Martinez has passed away. Someone has picked up his Defiante to finish it from Phoenix I believe. That is all the info I have. He had a great looking Q200 and came to a few of the Field Of Dreams events in the past. Will be greatly missed!
Bruce Crain


Re: What Determines Max Gross on Our Planes

Corbin
 

Many of you may remember my experience bringing mine home from California to its temporary home in Arkansas; then Texas after that.  If not, feel free to watch some of it:  https://youtu.be/KnJPErafPu4

Joe - I did what you are doing; grabbed a CFI and had him fly with the owner/builder.  I grabbed a very experienced tailwheel instructor, that I had been flying a Husky and SuperCub with, and he studied every document he could find about the plane, as did I.  We both flew out to California with no expectations other than "let's see how it goes".  My CFI flew with Jason Skiby to get the sight picture and other information that could be passed along.  Skiby obviously did a great job.  Then the CFI was confident to fly solo and get a feel for the plane.  He flew out to do maneuvers and then did several low and slow passes to get the sight picture, power settings, and feel down.  After a few landings, I think we were all pleased and impressed but confidence obviously comes with more experience.

We then made the decision to fly it back.  All went well.  This time of year with two in the plane, definitely be aware of your density altitude, W&B, and at each airport know where on the runway you will abort the takeoff if something is not right.

Can't wait to hear how it goes with your flight!

Corbin

On June 12, 2020 at 8:15 PM, Joe Hood <joe.hood@...> wrote:

CFI will be flying with the former owner. 

On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 21:11 Robert Cringely <bob@...> wrote:
Do you have confidence in your CFI? Does he/she have time in type? There are plenty of instructors out there who think "they can fly the box it came in," until they see their first tiny homebuilt with dubious wheel alignment and one brake that pulls way better than the other. Just be sure your expert is an expert. This is from a guy who used to do friends' test flights for fun when I was in my 20s. Now that I am in my sixties, forget that!


On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 5:31 PM Joe Hood <joe.hood@...> wrote:
Flying it back next week with my CFI. 

Thanks!

On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 20:01 Michael <dunningme@...> wrote:
This should answer most of your questions: Q-talk 129 - So What Is Your Gross Weight?

Have you flown your plane yet?

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-MD
#2827 (still thinking about planning on visualizing how to finish building)










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Corbin 
N33QR


Re: What Determines Max Gross on Our Planes

Jon Finley
 

Hi Joe,

More of the same from me. I have first hand experience with a buyer that decided have his CFI assist him with destroying my Q2. I am a CFI so I'm not bad-mouthing CFI's - only noting that a CFI is not typically well prepared for this type of flying. The transportation alternatives never look very appealing until you are standing over a torn up aircraft being forced to use one of those alternatives before starting on the three year reconstruction project.

Happy to talk more about this if you are interested.


Re: What Determines Max Gross on Our Planes

Jerry Marstall <jnmarstall@...>
 

Just received this email. Forgive me. Much relieved. J

-------- Original message --------
From: Joe Hood <joe.hood@...>
Date: 6/12/20 11:00 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: main@q-list.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] What Determines Max Gross on Our Planes

CFI will be flying with the former owner. 

On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 21:11 Robert Cringely <bob@...> wrote:
Do you have confidence in your CFI? Does he/she have time in type? There are plenty of instructors out there who think "they can fly the box it came in," until they see their first tiny homebuilt with dubious wheel alignment and one brake that pulls way better than the other. Just be sure your expert is an expert. This is from a guy who used to do friends' test flights for fun when I was in my 20s. Now that I am in my sixties, forget that!


On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 5:31 PM Joe Hood <joe.hood@...> wrote:
Flying it back next week with my CFI. 

Thanks!

On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 20:01 Michael <dunningme@...> wrote:
This should answer most of your questions: Q-talk 129 - So What Is Your Gross Weight?

Have you flown your plane yet?

--
-MD
#2827 (still thinking about planning on visualizing how to finish building)


Re: What Determines Max Gross on Our Planes

Jerry Marstall <jnmarstall@...>
 

Flying a newly acquired experimental of any sort on a cross country is not prudent. Let alone doing so if neither pilot is qualified.  

While inconvenient, trailering it is the best way to get both the plane and you home safely.
Learn the airplane and to fly it at home - baby steps.   History is on the side of caution. 
Jerry 

-------- Original message --------
From: Robert Cringely <bob@...>
Date: 6/12/20 10:58 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: main@q-list.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] What Determines Max Gross on Our Planes

Do you have confidence in your CFI? Does he/she have time in type? There are plenty of instructors out there who think "they can fly the box it came in," until they see their first tiny homebuilt with dubious wheel alignment and one brake that pulls way better than the other. Just be sure your expert is an expert. This is from a guy who used to do friends' test flights for fun when I was in my 20s. Now that I am in my sixties, forget that!


On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 5:31 PM Joe Hood <joe.hood@...> wrote:
Flying it back next week with my CFI. 

Thanks!

On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 20:01 Michael <dunningme@...> wrote:
This should answer most of your questions: Q-talk 129 - So What Is Your Gross Weight?

Have you flown your plane yet?

--
-MD
#2827 (still thinking about planning on visualizing how to finish building)


Re: What Determines Max Gross on Our Planes

Dave Dugas
 

Joe
I have 75 hp revmaster, LS1 canard, and I have max gross weight listed as 1100 lbs. My empty weight is 630 lbs, with an aluminum crankcase, which adds about 15 lbs. I've flown it at 1100 lbs and its a noticeable increase in take off distance and pitch sensitivity at max gross weight, especially because 99 percent of the time I fly it solo. As you test it with added weight you'll be able to determine your max gross weight. No two are alike. Hope that helps you.
Dave D


On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 9:18 PM, Michael
<dunningme@...> wrote:
Joe,

Welcome to the fold!

I certainly don't want to sound "preachy" since I don't know anything about you (you and your CFI may have 1000+ hours in a previous quickie for all I know). So I will merely state that the Q2 has an abysmal first flight safety record, so please use all of the resources at your disposal. Be especially careful if you intend the first flights to be with two people aboard a VW powered Q; they are limited by power loading.

Personally, there are a couple things I would independently verify before flying but you may have already done them.

Feel free to call/text me if you ever want to chat (just subtract 1 from each of the numbers below):
7-2-9-6-9-1-5-10-3-10

Blue skies,
Michael
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-MD
#2827 (still thinking about planning on visualizing how to finish building)


Re: What Determines Max Gross on Our Planes

Michael Dunning
 

Joe,

Welcome to the fold!

I certainly don't want to sound "preachy" since I don't know anything about you (you and your CFI may have 1000+ hours in a previous quickie for all I know). So I will merely state that the Q2 has an abysmal first flight safety record, so please use all of the resources at your disposal. Be especially careful if you intend the first flights to be with two people aboard a VW powered Q; they are limited by power loading.

Personally, there are a couple things I would independently verify before flying but you may have already done them.

Feel free to call/text me if you ever want to chat (just subtract 1 from each of the numbers below):
7-2-9-6-9-1-5-10-3-10

Blue skies,
Michael
--
-MD
#2827 (still thinking about planning on visualizing how to finish building)


Re: What Determines Max Gross on Our Planes

Joe Hood
 

CFI will be flying with the former owner. 

On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 21:11 Robert Cringely <bob@...> wrote:
Do you have confidence in your CFI? Does he/she have time in type? There are plenty of instructors out there who think "they can fly the box it came in," until they see their first tiny homebuilt with dubious wheel alignment and one brake that pulls way better than the other. Just be sure your expert is an expert. This is from a guy who used to do friends' test flights for fun when I was in my 20s. Now that I am in my sixties, forget that!


On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 5:31 PM Joe Hood <joe.hood@...> wrote:
Flying it back next week with my CFI. 

Thanks!

On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 20:01 Michael <dunningme@...> wrote:
This should answer most of your questions: Q-talk 129 - So What Is Your Gross Weight?

Have you flown your plane yet?

--
-MD
#2827 (still thinking about planning on visualizing how to finish building)


Re: What Determines Max Gross on Our Planes

Robert Cringely
 

Do you have confidence in your CFI? Does he/she have time in type? There are plenty of instructors out there who think "they can fly the box it came in," until they see their first tiny homebuilt with dubious wheel alignment and one brake that pulls way better than the other. Just be sure your expert is an expert. This is from a guy who used to do friends' test flights for fun when I was in my 20s. Now that I am in my sixties, forget that!


On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 5:31 PM Joe Hood <joe.hood@...> wrote:
Flying it back next week with my CFI. 

Thanks!

On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 20:01 Michael <dunningme@...> wrote:
This should answer most of your questions: Q-talk 129 - So What Is Your Gross Weight?

Have you flown your plane yet?

--
-MD
#2827 (still thinking about planning on visualizing how to finish building)


Re: What Determines Max Gross on Our Planes

Joe Hood
 

Flying it back next week with my CFI. 

Thanks!

On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 20:01 Michael <dunningme@...> wrote:
This should answer most of your questions: Q-talk 129 - So What Is Your Gross Weight?

Have you flown your plane yet?

--
-MD
#2827 (still thinking about planning on visualizing how to finish building)

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