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Re: Hangar 108 Asheville, NC

Richard Thomson
 

Where did you get that shine Jerry ?

Rich T.


Re: clearances

Chris Walterson
 

Sam------------  Thanks for the info. It helped  a lot. It appears as if I  had misplaced the phenolic profile for the elevators

on the Q200. After looking at your description I saw my mistake and spent a while searching  and  found the templates.
Did some measuring and figuring and  I'm pretty sure I got it right.

 I had already installed my slot cores so my process was different.

 Also when installing my middle  thimbles for the elevators I cut the tube and install the thimbles,

mark everything well and then install the tube into the elevator foam and glass. After setup remark and cut

out the foam to expose the hinge.

My elevator also has the inside two inches that is removable to expose a steel attachment that allows three attach points

instead of only one. This also gives the opportunity for a glassed in place fairing. My inner elevator bellcrank has a washer welded that goes against the inner phenolic.

 You can push the elevator outboard , the bellcrank inboard against the phenolic and then attach the bellcrank to the tube with a rivet and then

drill and add a AN 3 bolt. That's my plan so far------------- Thanks again--------------  Chris



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Hangar 108 Asheville, NC

Jerry Marstall <jnmarstall@...>
 


Re: clearances

Sam Hoskins
 

Chris, when I built my new Canard I was dismayed at how crappy the plans were. I decided to rewrite them. Take a look here and see if it's helpful for you. I spent a lot of time on the elevator attachment instructions.


On Sat, Aug 15, 2020, 9:05 PM Dorothea Keats <dkeats@...> wrote:
  I am starting to mock up the elevators on the Q200. I can't seem to
find any info on the clearance between the elevator and the elevator
slots. Does using the aluminum hinge fittings for reference with the
hinge resting on the back spar sufficient enough to give me proper
clearance. I have the elevator gigging template that works at station
48, but I need to trim the elevator to use the gig and I would rather
trim last. If I do it the way I think I end up with 1/2 inch clearance
between the elevator and the inside of the slot. Make sense??  Take
care-----------  Chris


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Re: clearances

Jim Patillo
 

One popsicle stick on either side of elevator is the clearance for the elevator slot.

Jim
N46JP Q200

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Subject: [Q-List] clearances
 
 I am starting to mock up the elevators on the Q200. I can't seem to
find any info on the clearance between the elevator and the elevator
slots. Does using the aluminum hinge fittings for reference with the
hinge resting on the back spar sufficient enough to give me proper
clearance. I have the elevator gigging template that works at station
48, but I need to trim the elevator to use the gig and I would rather
trim last. If I do it the way I think I end up with 1/2 inch clearance
between the elevator and the inside of the slot. Make sense??  Take
care-----------  Chris


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clearances

Chris Walterson
 

I am starting to mock up the elevators on the Q200. I can't seem to find any info on the clearance between the elevator and the elevator slots. Does using the aluminum hinge fittings for reference with the hinge resting on the back spar sufficient enough to give me proper clearance. I have the elevator gigging template that works at station 48, but I need to trim the elevator to use the gig and I would rather trim last. If I do it the way I think I end up with 1/2 inch clearance between the elevator and the inside of the slot. Make sense??  Take care-----------  Chris


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Re: Coughlin Brake Mount Drawings

Sam Hoskins
 

The tubing coming out of the pant was going to make too sharp of a bend, especially with any movement. I did the big loop to relieve stress and covered it with tubing to prevent abrasion.

Sam 

On Fri, Aug 14, 2020, 5:04 PM Michael <dunningme@...> wrote:
That's the plan, once I make a set and verify fitment.

Say, what's the big loop of tubing for in your brake mount picture?

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Re: Coughlin Brake Mount Drawings

Michael Dunning
 

That's the plan, once I make a set and verify fitment.

Say, what's the big loop of tubing for in your brake mount picture?

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Re: Help with Transferring a file

gbrighton@...
 

Hi Kieth,
                 I’m no expert ... but I use ‘Vimeo’ to transfer video’s ... it converts vid into a hyper link ... and so sends easy ... there the free version which I use ... is well known .. is a bit clumsy to learn etc ... but does the job ... probably better ways around that I don’t know ...,
Cheers,
Graham

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On 14 Aug 2020, at 7:37 pm, Keith Welsh <klw494@...> wrote:

Hi again,
I have a video file I'm needing to upload to the Google Drive.
The file is on my iPhone 8, I have the Google Drive app loaded but it does not seem to transfer.
I tried plugging the phone into my Windows 10 computer.  I can see the file but unable to make a file.  Pretty lost.  It's the remake of the QTour I'm trying to get to Sam.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.
My email is klw494@... or phone 812-230-2355
Thanx


Help with Transferring a file

 

Hi again,
I have a video file I'm needing to upload to the Google Drive.
The file is on my iPhone 8, I have the Google Drive app loaded but it does not seem to transfer.
I tried plugging the phone into my Windows 10 computer.  I can see the file but unable to make a file.  Pretty lost.  It's the remake of the QTour I'm trying to get to Sam.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.
My email is klw494@... or phone 812-230-2355
Thanx


Re: weight

Jay Scheevel
 

I agree with the group on this, Chris. Build aileron assembly per plans, or close to it. No need to alter a good design. It will save you time and hassle in the long run.

Cheers,
Jay

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID


Dorothea Keats <dkeats@...> wrote:

 Flipped the wing upright today to install the aileron slots. Any
different ideas on mounting the ailerons?

How is the best way to make an aileron to fuselage fairing? I am setting
mine up a bit different than plans. I want the ailerons easily removable
to service bushings. I also have a hinge point mid aileron,  and am
thinking of installing fuselage mounted phenolic along with the inner
phenolic.  For the fuselage hinge point I  would like to drill it  out
to 1 inch.  Slide the 5/8 tubing mounted in the aileron into the
phenolic and then slide a one inch outside diameter bushing with  5/8
inside  into the phenolic and pop rivet it in place.  The inner
bellcrank has a washer on it that will push against the inner phenolic
to hold the aileron out. Any ideas and critisism is welcome along with
pictures.

 Take care-------------  Chris


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Re: aileron attachment

Robert Cringely
 

Simplicate and add lightness. 


Re: Coughlin Brake Mount Drawings

Sam Hoskins
 

Nice Mike. How about creating a folder for these parts in the Files section of the Q-list site? 


On Mon, Aug 10, 2020, 2:26 PM Michael <dunningme@...> wrote:
Managed to reverse engineer the JPG drawing for the Hoskins version of the Coughlin brake mod. Quite pleased with how everything turned out when stacked on top of the drawing. Tomorrow's trick will be getting these into DXF and over to the laser cutter software.

If anyone is interested in a 3D view of how the parts go together, let me know.



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Re: weight

Corbin
 

I’ve learned a ton from this group.  One consistent theme sticks out all the time from those with great experience:  keep it simple and don’t fix what’s not broken.

Corbin

On Aug 13, 2020, at 8:23 PM, Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@...> wrote:


Just follow the plans.  A mid span hinge would serve what purpose? The ailerons are simple, best to keep them that way. They are a low maintenance item and as far as my experience goes, don't need fixing.

Sam

On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 6:50 PM Dorothea Keats <dkeats@...> wrote:
  Flipped the wing upright today to install the aileron slots. Any
different ideas on mounting the ailerons?

How is the best way to make an aileron to fuselage fairing? I am setting
mine up a bit different than plans. I want the ailerons easily removable
to service bushings. I also have a hinge point mid aileron,  and am
thinking of installing fuselage mounted phenolic along with the inner
phenolic.  For the fuselage hinge point I  would like to drill it  out
to 1 inch.  Slide the 5/8 tubing mounted in the aileron into the
phenolic and then slide a one inch outside diameter bushing with  5/8
inside  into the phenolic and pop rivet it in place.  The inner
bellcrank has a washer on it that will push against the inner phenolic
to hold the aileron out. Any ideas and critisism is welcome along with
pictures.

  Take care-------------  Chris


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Re: weight

Sam Hoskins
 

Just follow the plans.  A mid span hinge would serve what purpose? The ailerons are simple, best to keep them that way. They are a low maintenance item and as far as my experience goes, don't need fixing.

Sam

On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 6:50 PM Dorothea Keats <dkeats@...> wrote:
  Flipped the wing upright today to install the aileron slots. Any
different ideas on mounting the ailerons?

How is the best way to make an aileron to fuselage fairing? I am setting
mine up a bit different than plans. I want the ailerons easily removable
to service bushings. I also have a hinge point mid aileron,  and am
thinking of installing fuselage mounted phenolic along with the inner
phenolic.  For the fuselage hinge point I  would like to drill it  out
to 1 inch.  Slide the 5/8 tubing mounted in the aileron into the
phenolic and then slide a one inch outside diameter bushing with  5/8
inside  into the phenolic and pop rivet it in place.  The inner
bellcrank has a washer on it that will push against the inner phenolic
to hold the aileron out. Any ideas and critisism is welcome along with
pictures.

  Take care-------------  Chris


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aileron attachment

Paul Fisher
 

Sounds to me like you are trying to fix something that isn't broken.  The plans mounting of the ailerons works fine.  

I have to take the tailcone off to remove the ailerons, but I have to do that at annual anyway to inspect my battery, wiring, etc.  I just pull the ailerons off at the same time to re-grease (actually antiseize) the aileron pivots.

Just my $0.02.

Paul Fisher
Q-200 N17PF

On Thu, Aug 13, 2020, 18:50 Dorothea Keats <dkeats@...> wrote:
  Flipped the wing upright today to install the aileron slots. Any
different ideas on mounting the ailerons?

How is the best way to make an aileron to fuselage fairing? I am setting
mine up a bit different than plans. I want the ailerons easily removable
to service bushings. I also have a hinge point mid aileron,  and am
thinking of installing fuselage mounted phenolic along with the inner
phenolic.  For the fuselage hinge point I  would like to drill it  out
to 1 inch.  Slide the 5/8 tubing mounted in the aileron into the
phenolic and then slide a one inch outside diameter bushing with  5/8
inside  into the phenolic and pop rivet it in place.  The inner
bellcrank has a washer on it that will push against the inner phenolic
to hold the aileron out. Any ideas and critisism is welcome along with
pictures.

  Take care-------------  Chris


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Re: weight

Chris Walterson
 

Flipped the wing upright today to install the aileron slots. Any different ideas on mounting the ailerons?

How is the best way to make an aileron to fuselage fairing? I am setting mine up a bit different than plans. I want the ailerons easily removable to service bushings. I also have a hinge point mid aileron,  and am thinking of installing fuselage mounted phenolic along with the inner phenolic.  For the fuselage hinge point I  would like to drill it  out to 1 inch.  Slide the 5/8 tubing mounted in the aileron into the phenolic and then slide a one inch outside diameter bushing with  5/8 inside  into the phenolic and pop rivet it in place.  The inner bellcrank has a washer on it that will push against the inner phenolic to hold the aileron out. Any ideas and critisism is welcome along with pictures.

 Take care-------------  Chris


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Re: Any Ideas

Kevin Boddicker
 



On Aug 12, 2020, at 12:40 PM, Keith Welsh <klw494@...> wrote:

Hello,
I ran across this photo planted back in my files.
Does anyone know what became of this Q2?
Just curious
Thanx
<img244.pdf>

Jans with the Hawaiian shirt, and Steve Ham two to his left.
Buddys from Indianapolis. 
Don’t ask me why I remember all this trivia, but I can’t remember yesterday!!!
Sam Kittle’s ear!!!
Blue shirt, no idea!!!
That ends today’s lesson. Smoke um if you got um.




Re: Any Ideas

 

Hi Jay,
I saw the registration history too but wondered what gave reason for the deregistration.
I saw he is from Indy,
Thanks Sam for the info.  Definitely looks like a Polish name.


On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 2:28 PM Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote:

Looks like it was built by Les Hildebrand and is notw de-registered. Listed owner is not too far from you Keith.

Cheers,

Jay

 

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To: main@q-list.groups.io
Subject: [Q-List] Any Ideas

 

Hello,

I ran across this photo planted back in my files.

Does anyone know what became of this Q2?

Just curious

Thanx


Re: Any Ideas

Sanjay
 

I ended up with a section of his fuselage as bonus, along with my Q project I picked up in Indiana back in 2008. I recognize the paint scheme.
Sanjay

On Wed, Aug 12, 2020, 3:42 PM Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
Janusz Jaworski is how he spells it at least.

Corbin Ge!ser

On August 12, 2020 at 2:40 PM, Paul Fisher <rv7a.n18pf@...> wrote:

Boddicker and I were just talking about this guy.  Kevin remembered his name as Jans Joworsky.  

Paul

On Wed, Aug 12, 2020, 14:33 Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@...> wrote:
That was the Polish fellow that bought this cute to with the goal of landing and each of the lower states is a fundraising drive for 911 victims.

Shortly after that accomplishment, he got caught in a microburst and the airplane was destroyed but I think that he was okay out of it. I can't remember his name.

On Wed, Aug 12, 2020, 12:41 PM Keith Welsh <klw494@...> wrote:
Hello,
I ran across this photo planted back in my files.
Does anyone know what became of this Q2?
Just curious
Thanx




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