Date   

Re: YouTube Tips

Jon Finley
 

Mike,

 

The only way I know if is to add an “End Screen” when publishing the video. You can then have a few options for video links and channel subscription link. You kinda need to include 20-30 seconds at the end of your video to do this – something for the links to paint over.

 

Jon

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Dwyer
Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2020 9:20 AM
To: main@q-list.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Q-Tour do-over Keith Welsh's Quickie 1

 

Hi Sam,

That format is exactly what I was thinking of using.  His sound was very low but otherwise great quality.

 

So the deal is, when it's turned over to me I will run the video and be able to talk on Zoom during the video as questions are asked.  I think you'd still want to record the Zoom video so you get the questions in it.  

 

One thing that I'd suggest with youtube.  Right now when his video ended Youtube jumped from your Q videos and started playing a random video.  Somehow people are able to rig youtube to run a "playlist" and basically make the next video that plays another of their videos.

If I can figure out how they do that I'll let you know!

 

Got a nice flight in this morning.  Might head to Deland and watch the crazy parachuters this weekend!  We also like to go boating, but on a holiday weekend boating is just crazy around here.  The ramps are full and all the drunk morons are out in force.  I feel safer in the air!


Mike Dwyer

 

YouTube Videos: https://goo.gl/yKEHfK

Q200 Website: http://goo.gl/V8IrJF

 

 

On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 8:14 AM Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@...> wrote:

All,

Since we had so many technical issues with Keith's Zoom Q-Tour he was kind enough to to do it over.  So, here you can see Keith and his award winning single place Quickie in all it's uninterrupted glory. Just click on the link below.

Upcoming Q-Tours will be Jerry Marstall for September and Mike Dwyer for October.  Any volunteers for November?

Q-Tour channel


--
Jon Finley
Somewhere in the Southwest flying an RV-4


Re: Q-Tour do-over Keith Welsh's Quickie 1

Mike Dwyer
 

Hi Sam,
That format is exactly what I was thinking of using.  His sound was very low but otherwise great quality.

So the deal is, when it's turned over to me I will run the video and be able to talk on Zoom during the video as questions are asked.  I think you'd still want to record the Zoom video so you get the questions in it.  

One thing that I'd suggest with youtube.  Right now when his video ended Youtube jumped from your Q videos and started playing a random video.  Somehow people are able to rig youtube to run a "playlist" and basically make the next video that plays another of their videos.
If I can figure out how they do that I'll let you know!

Got a nice flight in this morning.  Might head to Deland and watch the crazy parachuters this weekend!  We also like to go boating, but on a holiday weekend boating is just crazy around here.  The ramps are full and all the drunk morons are out in force.  I feel safer in the air!

Mike Dwyer

YouTube Videos: https://goo.gl/yKEHfK
Q200 Website: http://goo.gl/V8IrJF


On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 8:14 AM Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@...> wrote:
All,

Since we had so many technical issues with Keith's Zoom Q-Tour he was kind enough to to do it over.  So, here you can see Keith and his award winning single place Quickie in all it's uninterrupted glory. Just click on the link below.

Upcoming Q-Tours will be Jerry Marstall for September and Mike Dwyer for October.  Any volunteers for November?

Q-Tour channel


Re: Question on Canards and Main Wings

Terry Adams
 

Last I heard reported in a bar in Reno.

Samsung Galaxy Note 10+




On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 7:56 AM -0700, <smeshno1@...> wrote:

 Last I heard of the Racer it was hanging in the rafters of some bar back East. It was reconstructed 
but not flown again. I guess a nice enough tip to the bar owner might allow a guy to ladder up and 
copy off the profiles. :-)   $100 hamburger (and a beer)?  Anyone know the location?

Vern in Mannford Ok 


From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...>
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2020 5:33 PM
To: main@q-list.groups.io <main@q-list.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Question on Canards and Main Wings
 
Come on now oh great Pohbah did they use an Eppler airfoil?  Inquiring minds want to know.
On the same subject Sammy Hoskins flew faster than 209 mph (unless 209 is knots) with the origin main wing and LS1  canard behind a 100 horse Continental 0200.  Wasn’t the engine in the Amsoil Racer engine a pumped 150 horse?
Inquiring minds want to know.
Bruski Crainsku


On Sep 1, 2020, at 4:28 PM, Bill Allen <billallensworld@...> wrote:


<808E46D9-FE02-44C5-BC8F-4D9C5C3BCFED.jpeg>
Here it is....

On Tue, 1 Sep 2020 at 22:22, JMasal via groups.io <JMasal=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:


Many know I am Death on the subject of "modifications". But I just now came onto some historical information that all of you may not know.

Sept. 2020 Air and Space mag explores "Racing's Fastest Biplane" noting that in 1981 at the behest of Danny Mortensen Burt Rutan  created




the Amsoil/Racer that "could almost be considered a tandem-wing design." Not just "almost" but it looked like a Quickie on steroids.











 In  the 1982 championship race, Mortensen finished second at 209.2 mph (winner's speed was 209.4). In 1983 Mortensen didn't compete in the championship




race because he "had demolished the lovely Amsoil/Rutan racer in a prior heat when he dodged an impending mid-air with Sorceress. His raceplane




hit the ground at more than 200 mph. Because Rutan had designed the cockpit to withstand a 22-G impact, Mortensen miraculously walked




away with only minor injuries".





And now you know the rest of the story.




Jim
























Begin forwarded message:























From: "Jay Scheevel" <jay@...>


To: <main@Q-List.groups.io>


Subject: Re: [Q-List] Question on Canards and Main Wings


Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2020 12:21:17 -0600

















Hi Bruce,






 






You can send Mike the  attached files. They are the asci files for Javafoil input that contain the geometries for BL 15 (fuselage wall), BL50 and BL100. Both the canard and the wing in the same file for each BL. The ordinates are their relative position as installed on the fuselage of the Tri-Q2, per plans. The absolute x-coordinates are in meters relative to the firewall located at 0.0 meters (FS 14 in plans) and the y-coordinates are relative to the ground (0.0 meters) for purposes of ground-effect modeling.  The plans-correct sweep and washout are also represented by the coordinates these files (LS1 canard, and Eppler Wing).  There is no anhedral, since I have modeled a Tri-Q with flat canard.






 






Mike can contact me offline if he has any questions. Also, may want to make him aware of my papers on the modeling, in case he is interested. Here are the links from my website:
























 






Cheers,






Jay






 














From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bruce Crain


Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2020 2:05 PM


To: main@q-list.groups.io


Subject: [Q-List] Question on Canards and Main Wings














 






Hi “Q Bees”!  Say Mike Shuck sent this note to me with questions on main wing and canard.  I am forwarding this to all of you to see if we can get him the correct info.  He has agreed to do a seminar on the airfoils that we have as compared to the Epley airfoil.  He will present at Field Of Dreams and you don’t want to miss it!  Leaning in your direction a bit Jay!  










Thanks guys!














Bruce 













Begin forwarded message:
















From: Mike Shuck <mikeshuck2001@...>


Date: August 29, 2020 at 11:30:17 PM CDT


To: "jcrain2@..." <jcrain2@...>


Subject: Question on Canards and Main Wings


















 














Hi Bruce,














 














I'm working on the the canards and main wings re: airfoils.














 














I have the ordinates for them but for the Q2/Q200 and the Quickie but I need to know the chord length in inches of the canards for each of the 2 models and the chord length of the main wings of each of the 2 models. If the main wings are tapered I need the maximum chord and the minimum chord in inches and I can derive the mean aerodynamic chord from that data. This way I can calculate the Reynolds numbers for each.














 














I hope you can help me on this. I'm going to add a canard of my own design for the Q2/200 and airfoils for the main wings of each (for theoretical uses only) just to spice up the PowerPoint presentation.














 














Thank you!














 














Mike














 
























 






 












































--



Re: Question on Canards and Main Wings

Frankenbird Vern
 

 Last I heard of the Racer it was hanging in the rafters of some bar back East. It was reconstructed 
but not flown again. I guess a nice enough tip to the bar owner might allow a guy to ladder up and 
copy off the profiles. :-)   $100 hamburger (and a beer)?  Anyone know the location?

Vern in Mannford Ok 


From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...>
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2020 5:33 PM
To: main@q-list.groups.io <main@q-list.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Question on Canards and Main Wings
 
Come on now oh great Pohbah did they use an Eppler airfoil?  Inquiring minds want to know.
On the same subject Sammy Hoskins flew faster than 209 mph (unless 209 is knots) with the origin main wing and LS1  canard behind a 100 horse Continental 0200.  Wasn’t the engine in the Amsoil Racer engine a pumped 150 horse?
Inquiring minds want to know.
Bruski Crainsku


On Sep 1, 2020, at 4:28 PM, Bill Allen <billallensworld@...> wrote:


<808E46D9-FE02-44C5-BC8F-4D9C5C3BCFED.jpeg>
Here it is....

On Tue, 1 Sep 2020 at 22:22, JMasal via groups.io <JMasal=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:


Many know I am Death on the subject of "modifications". But I just now came onto some historical information that all of you may not know.

Sept. 2020 Air and Space mag explores "Racing's Fastest Biplane" noting that in 1981 at the behest of Danny Mortensen Burt Rutan  created




the Amsoil/Racer that "could almost be considered a tandem-wing design." Not just "almost" but it looked like a Quickie on steroids.











 In  the 1982 championship race, Mortensen finished second at 209.2 mph (winner's speed was 209.4). In 1983 Mortensen didn't compete in the championship




race because he "had demolished the lovely Amsoil/Rutan racer in a prior heat when he dodged an impending mid-air with Sorceress. His raceplane




hit the ground at more than 200 mph. Because Rutan had designed the cockpit to withstand a 22-G impact, Mortensen miraculously walked




away with only minor injuries".





And now you know the rest of the story.




Jim
























Begin forwarded message:























From: "Jay Scheevel" <jay@...>


To: <main@Q-List.groups.io>


Subject: Re: [Q-List] Question on Canards and Main Wings


Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2020 12:21:17 -0600

















Hi Bruce,






 






You can send Mike the  attached files. They are the asci files for Javafoil input that contain the geometries for BL 15 (fuselage wall), BL50 and BL100. Both the canard and the wing in the same file for each BL. The ordinates are their relative position as installed on the fuselage of the Tri-Q2, per plans. The absolute x-coordinates are in meters relative to the firewall located at 0.0 meters (FS 14 in plans) and the y-coordinates are relative to the ground (0.0 meters) for purposes of ground-effect modeling.  The plans-correct sweep and washout are also represented by the coordinates these files (LS1 canard, and Eppler Wing).  There is no anhedral, since I have modeled a Tri-Q with flat canard.






 






Mike can contact me offline if he has any questions. Also, may want to make him aware of my papers on the modeling, in case he is interested. Here are the links from my website:
























 






Cheers,






Jay






 














From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bruce Crain


Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2020 2:05 PM


To: main@q-list.groups.io


Subject: [Q-List] Question on Canards and Main Wings














 






Hi “Q Bees”!  Say Mike Shuck sent this note to me with questions on main wing and canard.  I am forwarding this to all of you to see if we can get him the correct info.  He has agreed to do a seminar on the airfoils that we have as compared to the Epley airfoil.  He will present at Field Of Dreams and you don’t want to miss it!  Leaning in your direction a bit Jay!  










Thanks guys!














Bruce 













Begin forwarded message:
















From: Mike Shuck <mikeshuck2001@...>


Date: August 29, 2020 at 11:30:17 PM CDT


To: "jcrain2@..." <jcrain2@...>


Subject: Question on Canards and Main Wings


















 














Hi Bruce,














 














I'm working on the the canards and main wings re: airfoils.














 














I have the ordinates for them but for the Q2/Q200 and the Quickie but I need to know the chord length in inches of the canards for each of the 2 models and the chord length of the main wings of each of the 2 models. If the main wings are tapered I need the maximum chord and the minimum chord in inches and I can derive the mean aerodynamic chord from that data. This way I can calculate the Reynolds numbers for each.














 














I hope you can help me on this. I'm going to add a canard of my own design for the Q2/200 and airfoils for the main wings of each (for theoretical uses only) just to spice up the PowerPoint presentation.














 














Thank you!














 














Mike














 
























 






 












































--



Re: Question on Canards and Main Wings

Frankenbird Vern
 

 It was.. a bit like a mini dragonfly fuselage. 

  There are some basic differences in the airfoils also. John Roncz optimized the Racer. NOT a 
training aircraft!

  In a side conversation with John one afternoon in plant 4 at Beechcraft I asked him if the true canard
Burt designed are more effective for efficiency or the three surface such as our competition at the time;
the Piaggio Avanti . Several of us were building various Rutan or mutations thereof..my project was Cozy 
plans set #43 at the time.

  He stated the three surface planform was from the point of view in aerodynamics, more efficient as the
 aft surface unloads the canard thereby reducing induced drag. Look closely at the top of the Amzoil verticle
Stab.  It was in truth a three surface planform.

  Another tidbit from history back then. Our test pilots had never flown any canard design..so we 
(R&D , department 45) "borrowed" a Long Eze from Mohave just so something close to the units
 we were building at the time would be relative in flight!  There are some funny and also tragic 
stories from then.  

 I always believed the Pond Racer was never developed out as it could have been. Burt only released
2 licenses from Scaled Composites ..the second license to build has never been activated. 

The Amzoil Racer was one off.  The closest I have seen built as a pure offshoot was the Slickie in 2010 at 
Arlington EAA. I doubt it flew but it sure looked the part parked on the grass. I chatted with the builder/
owner. Some ideas were valid..most were showmanship. 

Vern in Mannford Oklahoma
Q2 Frankenbird and Capella XS2 LSA         



From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Bill Allen <billallensworld@...>
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2020 4:28 PM
To: main@q-list.groups.io <main@q-list.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Question on Canards and Main Wings
 
Here it is....

On Tue, 1 Sep 2020 at 22:22, JMasal via groups.io <JMasal=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:


Many know I am Death on the subject of "modifications". But I just now came onto some historical information that all of you may not know.

Sept. 2020 Air and Space mag explores "Racing's Fastest Biplane" noting that in 1981 at the behest of Danny Mortensen Burt Rutan  created




the Amsoil/Racer that "could almost be considered a tandem-wing design." Not just "almost" but it looked like a Quickie on steroids.











 In  the 1982 championship race, Mortensen finished second at 209.2 mph (winner's speed was 209.4). In 1983 Mortensen didn't compete in the championship




race because he "had demolished the lovely Amsoil/Rutan racer in a prior heat when he dodged an impending mid-air with Sorceress. His raceplane




hit the ground at more than 200 mph. Because Rutan had designed the cockpit to withstand a 22-G impact, Mortensen miraculously walked




away with only minor injuries".





And now you know the rest of the story.




Jim
























Begin forwarded message:























From: "Jay Scheevel" <jay@...>


To: <main@Q-List.groups.io>


Subject: Re: [Q-List] Question on Canards and Main Wings


Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2020 12:21:17 -0600

















Hi Bruce,






 






You can send Mike the  attached files. They are the asci files for Javafoil input that contain the geometries for BL 15 (fuselage wall), BL50 and BL100. Both the canard and the wing in the same file for each BL. The ordinates are their relative position as installed on the fuselage of the Tri-Q2, per plans. The absolute x-coordinates are in meters relative to the firewall located at 0.0 meters (FS 14 in plans) and the y-coordinates are relative to the ground (0.0 meters) for purposes of ground-effect modeling.  The plans-correct sweep and washout are also represented by the coordinates these files (LS1 canard, and Eppler Wing).  There is no anhedral, since I have modeled a Tri-Q with flat canard.






 






Mike can contact me offline if he has any questions. Also, may want to make him aware of my papers on the modeling, in case he is interested. Here are the links from my website:
























 






Cheers,






Jay






 














From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bruce Crain


Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2020 2:05 PM


To: main@q-list.groups.io


Subject: [Q-List] Question on Canards and Main Wings














 






Hi “Q Bees”!  Say Mike Shuck sent this note to me with questions on main wing and canard.  I am forwarding this to all of you to see if we can get him the correct info.  He has agreed to do a seminar on the airfoils that we have as compared to the Epley airfoil.  He will present at Field Of Dreams and you don’t want to miss it!  Leaning in your direction a bit Jay!  










Thanks guys!














Bruce 













Begin forwarded message:
















From: Mike Shuck <mikeshuck2001@...>


Date: August 29, 2020 at 11:30:17 PM CDT


To: "jcrain2@..." <jcrain2@...>


Subject: Question on Canards and Main Wings


















 














Hi Bruce,














 














I'm working on the the canards and main wings re: airfoils.














 














I have the ordinates for them but for the Q2/Q200 and the Quickie but I need to know the chord length in inches of the canards for each of the 2 models and the chord length of the main wings of each of the 2 models. If the main wings are tapered I need the maximum chord and the minimum chord in inches and I can derive the mean aerodynamic chord from that data. This way I can calculate the Reynolds numbers for each.














 














I hope you can help me on this. I'm going to add a canard of my own design for the Q2/200 and airfoils for the main wings of each (for theoretical uses only) just to spice up the PowerPoint presentation.














 














Thank you!














 














Mike














 
























 






 












































--


Re: Q-Tour do-over Keith Welsh's Quickie 1

Eugen Pilarski
 

Thank you very much for sharing that Video! Great to see you guys with your airplane. 

Best regards from Germany

Eugen 

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 02.09.2020 um 14:14 schrieb Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@...>:

All,

Since we had so many technical issues with Keith's Zoom Q-Tour he was kind enough to to do it over.  So, here you can see Keith and his award winning single place Quickie in all it's uninterrupted glory. Just click on the link below.

Upcoming Q-Tours will be Jerry Marstall for September and Mike Dwyer for October.  Any volunteers for November?

Q-Tour channel


Re: Q-Tour do-over Keith Welsh's Quickie 1

Jay Scheevel
 

Thanks Sam,

 

I could do November, but not live because of lack of wifi or cell coverage. A lot have people have seen my plane recently, so it may not be of too much interest (you decide), but I could get someone to film it in high res.

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sam Hoskins
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2020 6:14 AM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: [Special] [Q-List] Q-Tour do-over Keith Welsh's Quickie 1

 

All,

Since we had so many technical issues with Keith's Zoom Q-Tour he was kind enough to to do it over.  So, here you can see Keith and his award winning single place Quickie in all it's uninterrupted glory. Just click on the link below.

Upcoming Q-Tours will be Jerry Marstall for September and Mike Dwyer for October.  Any volunteers for November?

Q-Tour channel


Re: Q-Tour do-over Keith Welsh's Quickie 1

Bruce Crain
 

Whoop whoop!  Good news!  Thanks Sammy!
Bruce


On Sep 2, 2020, at 7:14 AM, Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@...> wrote:

All,

Since we had so many technical issues with Keith's Zoom Q-Tour he was kind enough to to do it over.  So, here you can see Keith and his award winning single place Quickie in all it's uninterrupted glory. Just click on the link below.

Upcoming Q-Tours will be Jerry Marstall for September and Mike Dwyer for October.  Any volunteers for November?

Q-Tour channel



Q-Tour do-over Keith Welsh's Quickie 1

Sam Hoskins
 

All,

Since we had so many technical issues with Keith's Zoom Q-Tour he was kind enough to to do it over.  So, here you can see Keith and his award winning single place Quickie in all it's uninterrupted glory. Just click on the link below.

Upcoming Q-Tours will be Jerry Marstall for September and Mike Dwyer for October.  Any volunteers for November?

Q-Tour channel


Re: Question on Canards and Main Wings

Martin Skiby
 

Yes and at one point they actually had to connect the wings to meet the requirements.

-----------------------------------------

From: "Corbin via groups.io"
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Tuesday September 1 2020 4:06:48PM
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Question on Canards and Main Wings

Oh wow!  This is incredible.  I am sharing this info and photo with others!  

Thanks for sending guys,

Corbin Ge!ser

On September 1, 2020 at 4:28 PM, Bill Allen <billallensworld@...> wrote:

Here it is....

On Tue, 1 Sep 2020 at 22:22, JMasal via groups.io <JMasal=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:


Many know I am Death on the subject of "modifications". But I just now came onto some historical information that all of you may not know.

Sept. 2020 Air and Space mag explores "Racing's Fastest Biplane" noting that in 1981 at the behest of Danny Mortensen Burt Rutan  created




the Amsoil/Racer that "could almost be considered a tandem-wing design." Not just "almost" but it looked like a Quickie on steroids.











 In  the 1982 championship race, Mortensen finished second at 209.2 mph (winner's speed was 209.4). In 1983 Mortensen didn't compete in the championship




race because he "had demolished the lovely Amsoil/Rutan racer in a prior heat when he dodged an impending mid-air with Sorceress. His raceplane




hit the ground at more than 200 mph. Because Rutan had designed the cockpit to withstand a 22-G impact, Mortensen miraculously walked




away with only minor injuries".





And now you know the rest of the story.




Jim

























Begin forwarded message:























From: "Jay Scheevel" <jay@...>


To: <main@Q-List.groups.io>


Subject: Re: [Q-List] Question on Canards and Main Wings


Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2020 12:21:17 -0600

















Hi Bruce,






 






You can send Mike the  attached files. They are the asci files for Javafoil input that contain the geometries for BL 15 (fuselage wall), BL50 and BL100. Both the canard and the wing in the same file for each BL. The ordinates are their relative position as installed on the fuselage of the Tri-Q2, per plans. The absolute x-coordinates are in meters relative to the firewall located at 0.0 meters (FS 14 in plans) and the y-coordinates are relative to the ground (0.0 meters) for purposes of ground-effect modeling.  The plans-correct sweep and washout are also represented by the coordinates these files (LS1 canard, and Eppler Wing).  There is no anhedral, since I have modeled a Tri-Q with flat canard.






 






Mike can contact me offline if he has any questions. Also, may want to make him aware of my papers on the modeling, in case he is interested. Here are the links from my website:
























 






Cheers,






Jay






 














From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bruce Crain


Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2020 2:05 PM


To: main@q-list.groups.io


Subject: [Q-List] Question on Canards and Main Wings














 






Hi “Q Bees”!  Say Mike Shuck sent this note to me with questions on main wing and canard.  I am forwarding this to all of you to see if we can get him the correct info.  He has agreed to do a seminar on the airfoils that we have as compared to the Epley airfoil.  He will present at Field Of Dreams and you don’t want to miss it!  Leaning in your direction a bit Jay!  










Thanks guys!














Bruce 













Begin forwarded message:
















From: Mike Shuck <mikeshuck2001@...>


Date: August 29, 2020 at 11:30:17 PM CDT


To: "jcrain2@..." <jcrain2@...>


Subject: Question on Canards and Main Wings


















 














Hi Bruce,














 














I'm working on the the canards and main wings re: airfoils.














 














I have the ordinates for them but for the Q2/Q200 and the Quickie but I need to know the chord length in inches of the canards for each of the 2 models and the chord length of the main wings of each of the 2 models. If the main wings are tapered I need the maximum chord and the minimum chord in inches and I can derive the mean aerodynamic chord from that data. This way I can calculate the Reynolds numbers for each.














 














I hope you can help me on this. I'm going to add a canard of my own design for the Q2/200 and airfoils for the main wings of each (for theoretical uses only) just to spice up the PowerPoint presentation.














 














Thank you!














 














Mike














 
























 






 















































--




Re: Question on Canards and Main Wings

Corbin <c_geiser@...>
 

Oh wow!  This is incredible.  I am sharing this info and photo with others!  

Thanks for sending guys,

Corbin Ge!ser

On September 1, 2020 at 4:28 PM, Bill Allen <billallensworld@...> wrote:

Here it is....

On Tue, 1 Sep 2020 at 22:22, JMasal via groups.io <JMasal=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:


Many know I am Death on the subject of "modifications". But I just now came onto some historical information that all of you may not know.

Sept. 2020 Air and Space mag explores "Racing's Fastest Biplane" noting that in 1981 at the behest of Danny Mortensen Burt Rutan  created




the Amsoil/Racer that "could almost be considered a tandem-wing design." Not just "almost" but it looked like a Quickie on steroids.











 In  the 1982 championship race, Mortensen finished second at 209.2 mph (winner's speed was 209.4). In 1983 Mortensen didn't compete in the championship




race because he "had demolished the lovely Amsoil/Rutan racer in a prior heat when he dodged an impending mid-air with Sorceress. His raceplane




hit the ground at more than 200 mph. Because Rutan had designed the cockpit to withstand a 22-G impact, Mortensen miraculously walked




away with only minor injuries".





And now you know the rest of the story.




Jim

























Begin forwarded message:























From: "Jay Scheevel" <jay@...>


To: <main@Q-List.groups.io>


Subject: Re: [Q-List] Question on Canards and Main Wings


Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2020 12:21:17 -0600

















Hi Bruce,






 






You can send Mike the  attached files. They are the asci files for Javafoil input that contain the geometries for BL 15 (fuselage wall), BL50 and BL100. Both the canard and the wing in the same file for each BL. The ordinates are their relative position as installed on the fuselage of the Tri-Q2, per plans. The absolute x-coordinates are in meters relative to the firewall located at 0.0 meters (FS 14 in plans) and the y-coordinates are relative to the ground (0.0 meters) for purposes of ground-effect modeling.  The plans-correct sweep and washout are also represented by the coordinates these files (LS1 canard, and Eppler Wing).  There is no anhedral, since I have modeled a Tri-Q with flat canard.






 






Mike can contact me offline if he has any questions. Also, may want to make him aware of my papers on the modeling, in case he is interested. Here are the links from my website:
























 






Cheers,






Jay






 














From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bruce Crain


Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2020 2:05 PM


To: main@q-list.groups.io


Subject: [Q-List] Question on Canards and Main Wings














 






Hi “Q Bees”!  Say Mike Shuck sent this note to me with questions on main wing and canard.  I am forwarding this to all of you to see if we can get him the correct info.  He has agreed to do a seminar on the airfoils that we have as compared to the Epley airfoil.  He will present at Field Of Dreams and you don’t want to miss it!  Leaning in your direction a bit Jay!  










Thanks guys!














Bruce 













Begin forwarded message:
















From: Mike Shuck <mikeshuck2001@...>


Date: August 29, 2020 at 11:30:17 PM CDT


To: "jcrain2@..." <jcrain2@...>


Subject: Question on Canards and Main Wings


















 














Hi Bruce,














 














I'm working on the the canards and main wings re: airfoils.














 














I have the ordinates for them but for the Q2/Q200 and the Quickie but I need to know the chord length in inches of the canards for each of the 2 models and the chord length of the main wings of each of the 2 models. If the main wings are tapered I need the maximum chord and the minimum chord in inches and I can derive the mean aerodynamic chord from that data. This way I can calculate the Reynolds numbers for each.














 














I hope you can help me on this. I'm going to add a canard of my own design for the Q2/200 and airfoils for the main wings of each (for theoretical uses only) just to spice up the PowerPoint presentation.














 














Thank you!














 














Mike














 
























 






 















































--




--

Corbin 
N33QR


Re: Question on Canards and Main Wings

Bruce Crain
 

Come on now oh great Pohbah did they use an Eppler airfoil?  Inquiring minds want to know.
On the same subject Sammy Hoskins flew faster than 209 mph (unless 209 is knots) with the origin main wing and LS1  canard behind a 100 horse Continental 0200.  Wasn’t the engine in the Amsoil Racer engine a pumped 150 horse?
Inquiring minds want to know.
Bruski Crainsku


On Sep 1, 2020, at 4:28 PM, Bill Allen <billallensworld@...> wrote:


<808E46D9-FE02-44C5-BC8F-4D9C5C3BCFED.jpeg>
Here it is....

On Tue, 1 Sep 2020 at 22:22, JMasal via groups.io <JMasal=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:


Many know I am Death on the subject of "modifications". But I just now came onto some historical information that all of you may not know.

Sept. 2020 Air and Space mag explores "Racing's Fastest Biplane" noting that in 1981 at the behest of Danny Mortensen Burt Rutan  created




the Amsoil/Racer that "could almost be considered a tandem-wing design." Not just "almost" but it looked like a Quickie on steroids.











 In  the 1982 championship race, Mortensen finished second at 209.2 mph (winner's speed was 209.4). In 1983 Mortensen didn't compete in the championship




race because he "had demolished the lovely Amsoil/Rutan racer in a prior heat when he dodged an impending mid-air with Sorceress. His raceplane




hit the ground at more than 200 mph. Because Rutan had designed the cockpit to withstand a 22-G impact, Mortensen miraculously walked




away with only minor injuries".





And now you know the rest of the story.




Jim
























Begin forwarded message:























From: "Jay Scheevel" <jay@...>


To: <main@Q-List.groups.io>


Subject: Re: [Q-List] Question on Canards and Main Wings


Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2020 12:21:17 -0600

















Hi Bruce,






 






You can send Mike the  attached files. They are the asci files for Javafoil input that contain the geometries for BL 15 (fuselage wall), BL50 and BL100. Both the canard and the wing in the same file for each BL. The ordinates are their relative position as installed on the fuselage of the Tri-Q2, per plans. The absolute x-coordinates are in meters relative to the firewall located at 0.0 meters (FS 14 in plans) and the y-coordinates are relative to the ground (0.0 meters) for purposes of ground-effect modeling.  The plans-correct sweep and washout are also represented by the coordinates these files (LS1 canard, and Eppler Wing).  There is no anhedral, since I have modeled a Tri-Q with flat canard.






 






Mike can contact me offline if he has any questions. Also, may want to make him aware of my papers on the modeling, in case he is interested. Here are the links from my website:
























 






Cheers,






Jay






 














From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bruce Crain


Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2020 2:05 PM


To: main@q-list.groups.io


Subject: [Q-List] Question on Canards and Main Wings














 






Hi “Q Bees”!  Say Mike Shuck sent this note to me with questions on main wing and canard.  I am forwarding this to all of you to see if we can get him the correct info.  He has agreed to do a seminar on the airfoils that we have as compared to the Epley airfoil.  He will present at Field Of Dreams and you don’t want to miss it!  Leaning in your direction a bit Jay!  










Thanks guys!














Bruce 













Begin forwarded message:
















From: Mike Shuck <mikeshuck2001@...>


Date: August 29, 2020 at 11:30:17 PM CDT


To: "jcrain2@..." <jcrain2@...>


Subject: Question on Canards and Main Wings


















 














Hi Bruce,














 














I'm working on the the canards and main wings re: airfoils.














 














I have the ordinates for them but for the Q2/Q200 and the Quickie but I need to know the chord length in inches of the canards for each of the 2 models and the chord length of the main wings of each of the 2 models. If the main wings are tapered I need the maximum chord and the minimum chord in inches and I can derive the mean aerodynamic chord from that data. This way I can calculate the Reynolds numbers for each.














 














I hope you can help me on this. I'm going to add a canard of my own design for the Q2/200 and airfoils for the main wings of each (for theoretical uses only) just to spice up the PowerPoint presentation.














 














Thank you!














 














Mike














 
























 






 












































--



Re: Question on Canards and Main Wings

Jay Scheevel
 

I always keep at least six feet away from Jim Masal, and it is not because of Covid!  FYI—I made “just a few” mods to my plane, right Jim? 😊

 

Cheers,

Jay Scheevel, Tri-Q2 N8WQ  116 hours and currently undergoing annual condition inspection #2

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of JMasal via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2020 3:22 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Question on Canards and Main Wings

 

Many know I am Death on the subject of "modifications". But I just now came onto some historical information that all of you may not know.

Sept. 2020 Air and Space mag explores "Racing's Fastest Biplane" noting that in 1981 at the behest of Danny Mortensen Burt Rutan  created

the Amsoil/Racer that "could almost be considered a tandem-wing design." Not just "almost" but it looked like a Quickie on steroids.

 

 In  the 1982 championship race, Mortensen finished second at 209.2 mph (winner's speed was 209.4). In 1983 Mortensen didn't compete in the championship

race because he "had demolished the lovely Amsoil/Rutan racer in a prior heat when he dodged an impending mid-air with Sorceress. His raceplane

hit the ground at more than 200 mph. Because Rutan had designed the cockpit to withstand a 22-G impact, Mortensen miraculously walked

away with only minor injuries".

And now you know the rest of the story.

Jim

 


Begin forwarded message:



From: "Jay Scheevel" <jay@...>
To: <main@Q-List.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Question on Canards and Main Wings
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2020 12:21:17 -0600

Hi Bruce,

 

You can send Mike the  attached files. They are the asci files for Javafoil input that contain the geometries for BL 15 (fuselage wall), BL50 and BL100. Both the canard and the wing in the same file for each BL. The ordinates are their relative position as installed on the fuselage of the Tri-Q2, per plans. The absolute x-coordinates are in meters relative to the firewall located at 0.0 meters (FS 14 in plans) and the y-coordinates are relative to the ground (0.0 meters) for purposes of ground-effect modeling.  The plans-correct sweep and washout are also represented by the coordinates these files (LS1 canard, and Eppler Wing).  There is no anhedral, since I have modeled a Tri-Q with flat canard.

 

Mike can contact me offline if he has any questions. Also, may want to make him aware of my papers on the modeling, in case he is interested. Here are the links from my website:

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bruce Crain
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2020 2:05 PM
To: main@q-list.groups.io
Subject: [Q-List] Question on Canards and Main Wings

 

Hi “Q Bees”!  Say Mike Shuck sent this note to me with questions on main wing and canard.  I am forwarding this to all of you to see if we can get him the correct info.  He has agreed to do a seminar on the airfoils that we have as compared to the Epley airfoil.  He will present at Field Of Dreams and you don’t want to miss it!  Leaning in your direction a bit Jay!  

Thanks guys!

Bruce 


Begin forwarded message:

From: Mike Shuck <mikeshuck2001@...>
Date: August 29, 2020 at 11:30:17 PM CDT
To: "jcrain2@..." <jcrain2@...>
Subject: Question on Canards and Main Wings

 

Hi Bruce,

 

I'm working on the the canards and main wings re: airfoils.

 

I have the ordinates for them but for the Q2/Q200 and the Quickie but I need to know the chord length in inches of the canards for each of the 2 models and the chord length of the main wings of each of the 2 models. If the main wings are tapered I need the maximum chord and the minimum chord in inches and I can derive the mean aerodynamic chord from that data. This way I can calculate the Reynolds numbers for each.

 

I hope you can help me on this. I'm going to add a canard of my own design for the Q2/200 and airfoils for the main wings of each (for theoretical uses only) just to spice up the PowerPoint presentation.

 

Thank you!

 

Mike

 

 

 

 


Re: Question on Canards and Main Wings

Bill Allen
 

Here it is....

On Tue, 1 Sep 2020 at 22:22, JMasal via groups.io <JMasal=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:


Many know I am Death on the subject of "modifications". But I just now came onto some historical information that all of you may not know.

Sept. 2020 Air and Space mag explores "Racing's Fastest Biplane" noting that in 1981 at the behest of Danny Mortensen Burt Rutan  created




the Amsoil/Racer that "could almost be considered a tandem-wing design." Not just "almost" but it looked like a Quickie on steroids.











 In  the 1982 championship race, Mortensen finished second at 209.2 mph (winner's speed was 209.4). In 1983 Mortensen didn't compete in the championship




race because he "had demolished the lovely Amsoil/Rutan racer in a prior heat when he dodged an impending mid-air with Sorceress. His raceplane




hit the ground at more than 200 mph. Because Rutan had designed the cockpit to withstand a 22-G impact, Mortensen miraculously walked




away with only minor injuries".





And now you know the rest of the story.




Jim
























Begin forwarded message:























From: "Jay Scheevel" <jay@...>


To: <main@Q-List.groups.io>


Subject: Re: [Q-List] Question on Canards and Main Wings


Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2020 12:21:17 -0600

















Hi Bruce,






 






You can send Mike the  attached files. They are the asci files for Javafoil input that contain the geometries for BL 15 (fuselage wall), BL50 and BL100. Both the canard and the wing in the same file for each BL. The ordinates are their relative position as installed on the fuselage of the Tri-Q2, per plans. The absolute x-coordinates are in meters relative to the firewall located at 0.0 meters (FS 14 in plans) and the y-coordinates are relative to the ground (0.0 meters) for purposes of ground-effect modeling.  The plans-correct sweep and washout are also represented by the coordinates these files (LS1 canard, and Eppler Wing).  There is no anhedral, since I have modeled a Tri-Q with flat canard.






 






Mike can contact me offline if he has any questions. Also, may want to make him aware of my papers on the modeling, in case he is interested. Here are the links from my website:
























 






Cheers,






Jay






 














From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bruce Crain


Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2020 2:05 PM


To: main@q-list.groups.io


Subject: [Q-List] Question on Canards and Main Wings














 






Hi “Q Bees”!  Say Mike Shuck sent this note to me with questions on main wing and canard.  I am forwarding this to all of you to see if we can get him the correct info.  He has agreed to do a seminar on the airfoils that we have as compared to the Epley airfoil.  He will present at Field Of Dreams and you don’t want to miss it!  Leaning in your direction a bit Jay!  










Thanks guys!














Bruce 













Begin forwarded message:
















From: Mike Shuck <mikeshuck2001@...>


Date: August 29, 2020 at 11:30:17 PM CDT


To: "jcrain2@..." <jcrain2@...>


Subject: Question on Canards and Main Wings


















 














Hi Bruce,














 














I'm working on the the canards and main wings re: airfoils.














 














I have the ordinates for them but for the Q2/Q200 and the Quickie but I need to know the chord length in inches of the canards for each of the 2 models and the chord length of the main wings of each of the 2 models. If the main wings are tapered I need the maximum chord and the minimum chord in inches and I can derive the mean aerodynamic chord from that data. This way I can calculate the Reynolds numbers for each.














 














I hope you can help me on this. I'm going to add a canard of my own design for the Q2/200 and airfoils for the main wings of each (for theoretical uses only) just to spice up the PowerPoint presentation.














 














Thank you!














 














Mike














 
























 






 












































--


Re: Question on Canards and Main Wings

JMasal@...
 

Many know I am Death on the subject of "modifications". But I just now came onto some historical information that all of you may not know.
Sept. 2020 Air and Space mag explores "Racing's Fastest Biplane" noting that in 1981 at the behest of Danny Mortensen Burt Rutan  created
the Amsoil/Racer that "could almost be considered a tandem-wing design." Not just "almost" but it looked like a Quickie on steroids.

 In  the 1982 championship race, Mortensen finished second at 209.2 mph (winner's speed was 209.4). In 1983 Mortensen didn't compete in the championship
race because he "had demolished the lovely Amsoil/Rutan racer in a prior heat when he dodged an impending mid-air with Sorceress. His raceplane
hit the ground at more than 200 mph. Because Rutan had designed the cockpit to withstand a 22-G impact, Mortensen miraculously walked
away with only minor injuries".

And now you know the rest of the story.
Jim




Begin forwarded message:



From: "Jay Scheevel" <jay@...>
To: <main@Q-List.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Question on Canards and Main Wings
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2020 12:21:17 -0600

Hi Bruce,
 
You can send Mike the  attached files. They are the asci files for Javafoil input that contain the geometries for BL 15 (fuselage wall), BL50 and BL100. Both the canard and the wing in the same file for each BL. The ordinates are their relative position as installed on the fuselage of the Tri-Q2, per plans. The absolute x-coordinates are in meters relative to the firewall located at 0.0 meters (FS 14 in plans) and the y-coordinates are relative to the ground (0.0 meters) for purposes of ground-effect modeling.  The plans-correct sweep and washout are also represented by the coordinates these files (LS1 canard, and Eppler Wing).  There is no anhedral, since I have modeled a Tri-Q with flat canard.
 
Mike can contact me offline if he has any questions. Also, may want to make him aware of my papers on the modeling, in case he is interested. Here are the links from my website:
 
Cheers,
Jay
 
From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bruce Crain
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2020 2:05 PM
To: main@q-list.groups.io
Subject: [Q-List] Question on Canards and Main Wings
 
Hi “Q Bees”!  Say Mike Shuck sent this note to me with questions on main wing and canard.  I am forwarding this to all of you to see if we can get him the correct info.  He has agreed to do a seminar on the airfoils that we have as compared to the Epley airfoil.  He will present at Field Of Dreams and you don’t want to miss it!  Leaning in your direction a bit Jay!  
Thanks guys!
Bruce 

Begin forwarded message:
From: Mike Shuck <mikeshuck2001@...>
Date: August 29, 2020 at 11:30:17 PM CDT
To: "jcrain2@..." <jcrain2@...>
Subject: Question on Canards and Main Wings
 
Hi Bruce,
 
I'm working on the the canards and main wings re: airfoils.
 
I have the ordinates for them but for the Q2/Q200 and the Quickie but I need to know the chord length in inches of the canards for each of the 2 models and the chord length of the main wings of each of the 2 models. If the main wings are tapered I need the maximum chord and the minimum chord in inches and I can derive the mean aerodynamic chord from that data. This way I can calculate the Reynolds numbers for each.
 
I hope you can help me on this. I'm going to add a canard of my own design for the Q2/200 and airfoils for the main wings of each (for theoretical uses only) just to spice up the PowerPoint presentation.
 
Thank you!
 
Mike
 
 
 



Re: View From the Hangar

Robert Cringely
 

What wheels and tires are you using on that Q1? They look narrower than mine. I'm thinking of switching to the skinny Azusa 8-inch wheels. By the way, my Q1 is about to become a diesel(!)



On Sun, Aug 30, 2020 at 7:01 PM Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote:
That's one beautiful bird, Kieth. Thanks for sharing that photo!

Cheers,
Jay

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID


Keith Welsh <klw494@...> wrote:

Rich,
Primer on...sand primer off, primer on...sand primer off,  primer on....sand primer off...then maybe paint.
Pretty simple....don't ya know!!
Not exactly kidding.  As many know one can never over do sanding on glass airplanes.

There are many good waxes out there but I've always used one called Nu-Finish. 
If I remember correctly, it was one of the early polymer once a year car waxes.
Started using it on farm equipment in the "70's" when it came out.  It beat everything at the time...never stopped using it.
for anyone with nothin to do...
In the March 1998 issue of Sport Aviation page 109 is a photo of one of our tractors that wax was used on.
Thanks for askin

On Sun, Aug 30, 2020 at 2:03 PM Richard Thomson <richard@...> wrote:

Another great shine Keith, what is your secret ?

Rich T.

On 30/08/2020 15:52, Keith Welsh wrote:
Hello,
Here's another Hangar shot.
Finally a Q1.
This one comin to ya from Terre Haute Regional Airport, Terre Haute, IN of N494K.
Keith Welsh

image.png



Re: View From the Hangar

Richard Thomson
 

Thanks Keith, I will look out for a similar product over here and give it a try.

Still not sure I will get it that good, bu twho knows.

Rich T.

On 30/08/2020 20:45, Keith Welsh wrote:

Rich,
Primer on...sand primer off, primer on...sand primer off,  primer on....sand primer off...then maybe paint.
Pretty simple....don't ya know!!
Not exactly kidding.  As many know one can never over do sanding on glass airplanes.

There are many good waxes out there but I've always used one called Nu-Finish. 
If I remember correctly, it was one of the early polymer once a year car waxes.
Started using it on farm equipment in the "70's" when it came out.  It beat everything at the time...never stopped using it.
for anyone with nothin to do...
In the March 1998 issue of Sport Aviation page 109 is a photo of one of our tractors that wax was used on.
Thanks for askin

On Sun, Aug 30, 2020 at 2:03 PM Richard Thomson <richard@...> wrote:

Another great shine Keith, what is your secret ?

Rich T.

On 30/08/2020 15:52, Keith Welsh wrote:
Hello,
Here's another Hangar shot.
Finally a Q1.
This one comin to ya from Terre Haute Regional Airport, Terre Haute, IN of N494K.
Keith Welsh

image.png



Question on Canards and Main Wings

Bruce Crain
 




Begin forwarded message:

From: Mike Shuck <mikeshuck2001@...>
Date: September 1, 2020 at 7:49:17 AM CDT
To: jcrain2@...
Subject: Re: Re:  [Q-List] Question on Canards and Main Wings
Reply-To: Mike Shuck <mikeshuck2001@...>

Thank you, Jay! I hugely appreciate all your help!

Mike


On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 5:19 PM, jcrain2@...
<jcrain2@...> wrote:
Hi Mike!
Here are the specs for the canard and main wing for the Quickie in the form of Tri gear from Jay Scheevel of Grand Junction, CO.  Hope this helps.  Jay is a bit over my head but he has built a wonderful TriQ 200 with a Jabiru water cooled engine with many great mods!
Let me know if you need anything.
Bruce Crain

Please note: forwarded message attached

From: "Jay Scheevel" <jay@...>
To: <main@Q-List.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Question on Canards and Main Wings
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2020 12:21:17 -0600

Hi Bruce,
 
You can send Mike the  attached files. They are the asci files for Javafoil input that contain the geometries for BL 15 (fuselage wall), BL50 and BL100. Both the canard and the wing in the same file for each BL. The ordinates are their relative position as installed on the fuselage of the Tri-Q2, per plans. The absolute x-coordinates are in meters relative to the firewall located at 0.0 meters (FS 14 in plans) and the y-coordinates are relative to the ground (0.0 meters) for purposes of ground-effect modeling.  The plans-correct sweep and washout are also represented by the coordinates these files (LS1 canard, and Eppler Wing).  There is no anhedral, since I have modeled a Tri-Q with flat canard.
 
Mike can contact me offline if he has any questions. Also, may want to make him aware of my papers on the modeling, in case he is interested. Here are the links from my website:
 
Cheers,
Jay
 
From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bruce Crain
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2020 2:05 PM
To: main@q-list.groups.io
Subject: [Q-List] Question on Canards and Main Wings
 
Hi “Q Bees”!  Say Mike Shuck sent this note to me with questions on main wing and canard.  I am forwarding this to all of you to see if we can get him the correct info.  He has agreed to do a seminar on the airfoils that we have as compared to the Epley airfoil.  He will present at Field Of Dreams and you don’t want to miss it!  Leaning in your direction a bit Jay!  
Thanks guys!
Bruce 

Begin forwarded message:
From: Mike Shuck <mikeshuck2001@...>
Date: August 29, 2020 at 11:30:17 PM CDT
To: "jcrain2@..." <jcrain2@...>
Subject: Question on Canards and Main Wings
 
Hi Bruce,
 
I'm working on the the canards and main wings re: airfoils.
 
I have the ordinates for them but for the Q2/Q200 and the Quickie but I need to know the chord length in inches of the canards for each of the 2 models and the chord length of the main wings of each of the 2 models. If the main wings are tapered I need the maximum chord and the minimum chord in inches and I can derive the mean aerodynamic chord from that data. This way I can calculate the Reynolds numbers for each.
 
I hope you can help me on this. I'm going to add a canard of my own design for the Q2/200 and airfoils for the main wings of each (for theoretical uses only) just to spice up the PowerPoint presentation.
 
Thank you!
 
Mike
 
 
 



Re: Field of Dreams Reunion 2020!

Jay Scheevel
 

Thanks for reminding everyone, Jon.

 

As is my nature…I will add a note on this. I was born and raised above 5000’ and have flown out of strips at or above that for 25 years. For years I window shopped oxygen systems and stayed legal when flying in the mountains (most of the time). I finally bought a system about 12 years ago and started using it whenever above 10K. I found that previously after a long cross county, flown around 11K or so, I would arrive and be tired, maybe a mild headache, etc. After using the oxygen on the same flights, I arrive fresh as a daisy and enjoy the time on the ground more. I would recommend it to anyone. Darn worth the money. I agree with Jon, that it is really a good idea for sea level folks.

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jon Finley
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2020 2:56 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Field of Dreams Reunion 2020!

 

Good stuff Alan – Thanks!

 

There is another thing that Alan does that is pretty darn smart.  He’s from near sea level and sucks oxygen while up high.  I believe that this is slightly less significant for a person (healthy) that is acclimated to 6,000-7,000’ (flying at 11,000-12,000’) but asking a body to do that from sea level is asking a lot. 

 

Those little finger tip blood oxygen meters (like this one) are pretty cheap and could be of significant benefit!

 

Another thing to consider….

 

Jon


--
Jon Finley
Somewhere in the Southwest flying an RV-4


Re: Field of Dreams Reunion 2020!

millenniumflier@...
 

Jon, absolutely! Glad you brought that up.  For my first trip, it was Marc Zeitlin who suggested getting a pulse oximeter, and i wound up getting two! One permanently in the plane and the other in my flight bag.  REALLY good to monitor your oxygen levels while at altitude.   And Ray McCrea here at Livermore helped me with getting my oxygen set-up all ready to go, and the terrific thing about having oxygen on board is that it significantly increases your options if you have to deviate from your plan and go high.  Since i got it in the plane, i now never have to worry about going to altitudes that would otherwise be unsafe for long periods of flying, and being out of conformity wiht the FAR's.  Ray highly recommended the Mountain High metered delivery system and it is terrific.  REALLY conserves oxygen as opposed to an un-metered cannula.  Jon, you are bionic, so i envy you being acclimated!

Thanks for mentioning that, yes, oxygen is yet another smart tool in your toolbag to be safe!

Alan


-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Finley <jd@...>
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Sent: Mon, Aug 31, 2020 1:56 pm
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Field of Dreams Reunion 2020!

Good stuff Alan – Thanks!

 

There is another thing that Alan does that is pretty darn smart.  He’s from near sea level and sucks oxygen while up high.  I believe that this is slightly less significant for a person (healthy) that is acclimated to 6,000-7,000’ (flying at 11,000-12,000’) but asking a body to do that from sea level is asking a lot. 

 

Those little finger tip blood oxygen meters (like this one) are pretty cheap and could be of significant benefit!

 

Another thing to consider….

 

Jon


--
Jon Finley
Somewhere in the Southwest flying an RV-4

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