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Re: AMS/OIL Racer NASA Report

smeshno1@...
 

 Hmmm.. I wonder if I can get a High Limit 21 bet for the suspended carcass?  Maybe chip them a $500
 single play from 1st base and a from newly shuffled 9 deck shoe? 😉
 
 It's the only play in any casino that is near to 50/50 odds. Probably pretty quiet there these days..

Vern


From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of One Sky Dog via groups.io <Oneskydog@...>
Sent: Monday, September 7, 2020 7:52 AM
To: main@q-list.groups.io <main@q-list.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] AMS/OIL Racer NASA Report
 
Redline on my 52” dia X 34” Tennessee wood prop was 4000 rpm. I ran it at 3400 rpm in front of a 1835cc HAPI VW for up to 10 hours in a day on cross country flights.

I saw the Amsoil racer hanging in Harrah’s casino in Reno late 80’s.

Charlie


On Sep 7, 2020, at 4:05 AM, kingdws@... wrote:


Mmmmm depending on the prop that rpm could be  right. I seem to recall tip speeds in the transonic range. 

Right until the crash I kept thinking that a proper off season of tinkering and it would walk away.  

Dave 

On Sun, Sep 6, 2020, 23:31 Michael <dunningme@...> wrote:
From earlier 1982 article "The original engine red-line is 2700 rpm, but a helicopter cam permits 3200 rpm and Dan races at 3400 rpm." There was also some mention of one-off mods to turn the engine into an injected IO-variant?
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-MD
#2827 (still thinking about planning on visualizing how to finish building)


"FIELD OF DREAMS"!!

Bruce Crain
 

"FIELD OF DREAMS"!!!  We are still on for FOD here in Enid, Oklahoma!  September 18-20.  Everything seems to be in place for the Reunion Event.  Tee Shirts, Banquet, and a few "weird" prizes.  When you see the Tee Shirts with the 30 Year emblem on them please thank Kevin  Boddicker's wife Brenda!  She has done the artwork for us for 3 years now and does a wonderful job! 
 
Who'da thought 30 years since the first Quickie/Dragonfly event!  We have some newbies inbound for the event and hopefully we can have a fun time with them and "show and tell" for them to keep them pumped up!
 
Kevin also has been put in charge of weather for the Event and it looks like he nailed it!  The WX for the event shows Highs of 80 degrees and lows of 56 degrees with only 10% chance of rain.  Way to go Kevin!  You must have a direct connection!  PTL!
 
This event stays on my mind all year long and I can't wait to see you all!  There are already a few coming in  early as is normal.  We love to have folks show up early as it gives us more time to talk and fly and mainly catch up!  So if you think you would like to show up early we will be looking up and down the road for you or up in the air also!
 
Also thank Rachel Faruque for the URL web site of which is   fieldofdreamsreunion.weebly.com   and her hubby Imraan for encouragement and friendship!  He almost has his TriQ 200 back in the air!
 
You guys and gals are the BEST!
Blessings and traveling mercies!
Bruce and Honey Lamb Crain 
 
 



Re: AMS/OIL Racer NASA Report

One Sky Dog
 

Correction 52”X 44”


On Sep 7, 2020, at 6:52 AM, One Sky Dog via groups.io <Oneskydog@...> wrote:

Redline on my 52” dia X 34” Tennessee wood prop was 4000 rpm. I ran it at 3400 rpm in front of a 1835cc HAPI VW for up to 10 hours in a day on cross country flights.

I saw the Amsoil racer hanging in Harrah’s casino in Reno late 80’s.

Charlie


On Sep 7, 2020, at 4:05 AM, kingdws@... wrote:


Mmmmm depending on the prop that rpm could be  right. I seem to recall tip speeds in the transonic range. 

Right until the crash I kept thinking that a proper off season of tinkering and it would walk away.  

Dave 

On Sun, Sep 6, 2020, 23:31 Michael <dunningme@...> wrote:
From earlier 1982 article "The original engine red-line is 2700 rpm, but a helicopter cam permits 3200 rpm and Dan races at 3400 rpm." There was also some mention of one-off mods to turn the engine into an injected IO-variant?
--
-MD
#2827 (still thinking about planning on visualizing how to finish building)


Re: Those with Light Speed Electronic Ignition...

Richard Thomson
 

You will have a powered pump unless you lose both batteries together. Separate CDI is preferable then, unless you are not charging the Aux battery in flight.

Are you using Plasma 2 Plus or Plasma 3 ? What is the difference, they look like the same specs except weight and cost ?

Rich.T


On 07/09/2020 14:18, Corbin via groups.io wrote:
One main pump goes to main battery and the backup pump goes to the aux battery.

Corbin

On Sep 7, 2020, at 6:57 AM, Richard Thomson <richard@...> wrote:



Have you not spilt your pumps supplies  then?

Main and standby batteries and busbars, and standby pump :-)

You can split the system and still keep it light, single alt with link charge and bus isolation. Works for me.

Rich T.

On 07/09/2020 12:37, Corbin via groups.io wrote:
I have a main and an aux battery.  Yep, you could run each CDI to a different battery.  Keep in mind, if I lose battery power, my fuel pumps (and engine) stop regardless.  

Corbin

On Sep 7, 2020, at 5:47 AM, Richard Thomson <richard@...> wrote:



Are you running twin batteries? Can you have separate power feeds to the Dual Ignition system ?

Rich T.

On 04/09/2020 23:59, Corbin via groups.io wrote:
Dual ignition.  No mags!  😀

Corbin

On Sep 4, 2020, at 5:45 PM, Richard Thomson <richard@...> wrote:



Hey Corbin is that Dual ignition or are you running one mag ?

Rich T.

On 04/09/2020 19:52, Corbin via groups.io wrote:
Thanks Jay.  Jim’s been a great help over the phone the last couple of days.

Me, Jim, and Kevin all have different versions of the Light Speed setup.

Corbin

On Sep 4, 2020, at 1:25 PM, Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote:



I think that Jim Patillo has a lightspeed. Is that right Jim. Any ideas for Corbin?

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Corbin via groups.io
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2020 6:02 AM
To: main@q-list.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Those with Light Speed Electronic Ignition...

 

It looks like you could to me as well.  The only thing that makes me second guess that is the install manual makes a point to notate the sensor wire needs to “point” clockwise (right/to the pilot side) on top and bottom. 

Corbin



On Sep 4, 2020, at 12:17 AM, David J. Gall <David@...> wrote:



Corbin,

 

It looks to me like you could just install the mount as assembled at the factory, but put it on the left side of the case split line under the nuts instead of under the heads of the case bolts….

 

My $.02

 

David J. Gall

 

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Corbin via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2020 3:14 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Those with Light Speed Electronic Ignition...

 

Well, I have noticed a few mistakes in the manual so far.  For instance, there are no stainless steel flush screws and no circuit board to install.  Many steps should be updated and omitted.

 

I contacted Klaus but that didn't go anywhere.  I am 99% sure he installed the sensor incorrectly.  I just can't see how it would be correct.

 

Corbin Ge!ser


On September 3, 2020 at 5:05 PM, Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@...> wrote:

Do exactly what the instructions say. If you are unsure call or send Klaus an email. He doesn't make many mistakes.

 

Sam 

 

On Thu, Sep 3, 2020, 3:59 PM Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:

Kevin,

Now I see your other email.  I think I see what you mean.  Yes, the mounting bracket should go left of centerline but the sensor should be on the right side of the mounting bracket.  So I am still thinking it was sent incorrectly.
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Re: Those with Light Speed Electronic Ignition...

Corbin
 

One main pump goes to main battery and the backup pump goes to the aux battery.

Corbin

On Sep 7, 2020, at 6:57 AM, Richard Thomson <richard@...> wrote:



Have you not spilt your pumps supplies  then?

Main and standby batteries and busbars, and standby pump :-)

You can split the system and still keep it light, single alt with link charge and bus isolation. Works for me.

Rich T.

On 07/09/2020 12:37, Corbin via groups.io wrote:
I have a main and an aux battery.  Yep, you could run each CDI to a different battery.  Keep in mind, if I lose battery power, my fuel pumps (and engine) stop regardless.  

Corbin

On Sep 7, 2020, at 5:47 AM, Richard Thomson <richard@...> wrote:



Are you running twin batteries? Can you have separate power feeds to the Dual Ignition system ?

Rich T.

On 04/09/2020 23:59, Corbin via groups.io wrote:
Dual ignition.  No mags!  😀

Corbin

On Sep 4, 2020, at 5:45 PM, Richard Thomson <richard@...> wrote:



Hey Corbin is that Dual ignition or are you running one mag ?

Rich T.

On 04/09/2020 19:52, Corbin via groups.io wrote:
Thanks Jay.  Jim’s been a great help over the phone the last couple of days.

Me, Jim, and Kevin all have different versions of the Light Speed setup.

Corbin

On Sep 4, 2020, at 1:25 PM, Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote:



I think that Jim Patillo has a lightspeed. Is that right Jim. Any ideas for Corbin?

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Corbin via groups.io
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2020 6:02 AM
To: main@q-list.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Those with Light Speed Electronic Ignition...

 

It looks like you could to me as well.  The only thing that makes me second guess that is the install manual makes a point to notate the sensor wire needs to “point” clockwise (right/to the pilot side) on top and bottom. 

Corbin



On Sep 4, 2020, at 12:17 AM, David J. Gall <David@...> wrote:



Corbin,

 

It looks to me like you could just install the mount as assembled at the factory, but put it on the left side of the case split line under the nuts instead of under the heads of the case bolts….

 

My $.02

 

David J. Gall

 

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Corbin via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2020 3:14 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Those with Light Speed Electronic Ignition...

 

Well, I have noticed a few mistakes in the manual so far.  For instance, there are no stainless steel flush screws and no circuit board to install.  Many steps should be updated and omitted.

 

I contacted Klaus but that didn't go anywhere.  I am 99% sure he installed the sensor incorrectly.  I just can't see how it would be correct.

 

Corbin Ge!ser


On September 3, 2020 at 5:05 PM, Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@...> wrote:

Do exactly what the instructions say. If you are unsure call or send Klaus an email. He doesn't make many mistakes.

 

Sam 

 

On Thu, Sep 3, 2020, 3:59 PM Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:

Kevin,

Now I see your other email.  I think I see what you mean.  Yes, the mounting bracket should go left of centerline but the sensor should be on the right side of the mounting bracket.  So I am still thinking it was sent incorrectly.
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Corbin 
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Re: AMS/OIL Racer NASA Report

One Sky Dog
 

Redline on my 52” dia X 34” Tennessee wood prop was 4000 rpm. I ran it at 3400 rpm in front of a 1835cc HAPI VW for up to 10 hours in a day on cross country flights.

I saw the Amsoil racer hanging in Harrah’s casino in Reno late 80’s.

On Sep 7, 2020, at 4:05 AM, kingdws@... wrote:


Mmmmm depending on the prop that rpm could be  right. I seem to recall tip speeds in the transonic range. 

Right until the crash I kept thinking that a proper off season of tinkering and it would walk away.  

Dave 

On Sun, Sep 6, 2020, 23:31 Michael <dunningme@...> wrote:
From earlier 1982 article "The original engine red-line is 2700 rpm, but a helicopter cam permits 3200 rpm and Dan races at 3400 rpm." There was also some mention of one-off mods to turn the engine into an injected IO-variant?
--
-MD
#2827 (still thinking about planning on visualizing how to finish building)


Re: View From the Hangar

 

The tires I have on my Quickie are Good Year 4.10/3.50-5 4 ply rated at 380#

On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 2:11 PM Robert Cringely <bob@...> wrote:
What wheels and tires are you using on that Q1? They look narrower than mine. I'm thinking of switching to the skinny Azusa 8-inch wheels. By the way, my Q1 is about to become a diesel(!)



On Sun, Aug 30, 2020 at 7:01 PM Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote:
That's one beautiful bird, Kieth. Thanks for sharing that photo!

Cheers,
Jay

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID


Keith Welsh <klw494@...> wrote:

Rich,
Primer on...sand primer off, primer on...sand primer off,  primer on....sand primer off...then maybe paint.
Pretty simple....don't ya know!!
Not exactly kidding.  As many know one can never over do sanding on glass airplanes.

There are many good waxes out there but I've always used one called Nu-Finish. 
If I remember correctly, it was one of the early polymer once a year car waxes.
Started using it on farm equipment in the "70's" when it came out.  It beat everything at the time...never stopped using it.
for anyone with nothin to do...
In the March 1998 issue of Sport Aviation page 109 is a photo of one of our tractors that wax was used on.
Thanks for askin

On Sun, Aug 30, 2020 at 2:03 PM Richard Thomson <richard@...> wrote:

Another great shine Keith, what is your secret ?

Rich T.

On 30/08/2020 15:52, Keith Welsh wrote:
Hello,
Here's another Hangar shot.
Finally a Q1.
This one comin to ya from Terre Haute Regional Airport, Terre Haute, IN of N494K.
Keith Welsh

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Re: Those with Light Speed Electronic Ignition...

Richard Thomson
 

Have you not spilt your pumps supplies  then?

Main and standby batteries and busbars, and standby pump :-)

You can split the system and still keep it light, single alt with link charge and bus isolation. Works for me.

Rich T.

On 07/09/2020 12:37, Corbin via groups.io wrote:
I have a main and an aux battery.  Yep, you could run each CDI to a different battery.  Keep in mind, if I lose battery power, my fuel pumps (and engine) stop regardless.  

Corbin

On Sep 7, 2020, at 5:47 AM, Richard Thomson <richard@...> wrote:



Are you running twin batteries? Can you have separate power feeds to the Dual Ignition system ?

Rich T.

On 04/09/2020 23:59, Corbin via groups.io wrote:
Dual ignition.  No mags!  😀

Corbin

On Sep 4, 2020, at 5:45 PM, Richard Thomson <richard@...> wrote:



Hey Corbin is that Dual ignition or are you running one mag ?

Rich T.

On 04/09/2020 19:52, Corbin via groups.io wrote:
Thanks Jay.  Jim’s been a great help over the phone the last couple of days.

Me, Jim, and Kevin all have different versions of the Light Speed setup.

Corbin

On Sep 4, 2020, at 1:25 PM, Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote:



I think that Jim Patillo has a lightspeed. Is that right Jim. Any ideas for Corbin?

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Corbin via groups.io
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2020 6:02 AM
To: main@q-list.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Those with Light Speed Electronic Ignition...

 

It looks like you could to me as well.  The only thing that makes me second guess that is the install manual makes a point to notate the sensor wire needs to “point” clockwise (right/to the pilot side) on top and bottom. 

Corbin



On Sep 4, 2020, at 12:17 AM, David J. Gall <David@...> wrote:



Corbin,

 

It looks to me like you could just install the mount as assembled at the factory, but put it on the left side of the case split line under the nuts instead of under the heads of the case bolts….

 

My $.02

 

David J. Gall

 

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Corbin via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2020 3:14 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Those with Light Speed Electronic Ignition...

 

Well, I have noticed a few mistakes in the manual so far.  For instance, there are no stainless steel flush screws and no circuit board to install.  Many steps should be updated and omitted.

 

I contacted Klaus but that didn't go anywhere.  I am 99% sure he installed the sensor incorrectly.  I just can't see how it would be correct.

 

Corbin Ge!ser


On September 3, 2020 at 5:05 PM, Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@...> wrote:

Do exactly what the instructions say. If you are unsure call or send Klaus an email. He doesn't make many mistakes.

 

Sam 

 

On Thu, Sep 3, 2020, 3:59 PM Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:

Kevin,

Now I see your other email.  I think I see what you mean.  Yes, the mounting bracket should go left of centerline but the sensor should be on the right side of the mounting bracket.  So I am still thinking it was sent incorrectly.
--

Corbin 
N33QR

 

 


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Re: Those with Light Speed Electronic Ignition...

Corbin
 

I have a main and an aux battery.  Yep, you could run each CDI to a different battery.  Keep in mind, if I lose battery power, my fuel pumps (and engine) stop regardless.  

Corbin

On Sep 7, 2020, at 5:47 AM, Richard Thomson <richard@...> wrote:



Are you running twin batteries? Can you have separate power feeds to the Dual Ignition system ?

Rich T.

On 04/09/2020 23:59, Corbin via groups.io wrote:
Dual ignition.  No mags!  😀

Corbin

On Sep 4, 2020, at 5:45 PM, Richard Thomson <richard@...> wrote:



Hey Corbin is that Dual ignition or are you running one mag ?

Rich T.

On 04/09/2020 19:52, Corbin via groups.io wrote:
Thanks Jay.  Jim’s been a great help over the phone the last couple of days.

Me, Jim, and Kevin all have different versions of the Light Speed setup.

Corbin

On Sep 4, 2020, at 1:25 PM, Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote:



I think that Jim Patillo has a lightspeed. Is that right Jim. Any ideas for Corbin?

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Corbin via groups.io
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2020 6:02 AM
To: main@q-list.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Those with Light Speed Electronic Ignition...

 

It looks like you could to me as well.  The only thing that makes me second guess that is the install manual makes a point to notate the sensor wire needs to “point” clockwise (right/to the pilot side) on top and bottom. 

Corbin



On Sep 4, 2020, at 12:17 AM, David J. Gall <David@...> wrote:



Corbin,

 

It looks to me like you could just install the mount as assembled at the factory, but put it on the left side of the case split line under the nuts instead of under the heads of the case bolts….

 

My $.02

 

David J. Gall

 

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Corbin via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2020 3:14 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Those with Light Speed Electronic Ignition...

 

Well, I have noticed a few mistakes in the manual so far.  For instance, there are no stainless steel flush screws and no circuit board to install.  Many steps should be updated and omitted.

 

I contacted Klaus but that didn't go anywhere.  I am 99% sure he installed the sensor incorrectly.  I just can't see how it would be correct.

 

Corbin Ge!ser


On September 3, 2020 at 5:05 PM, Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@...> wrote:

Do exactly what the instructions say. If you are unsure call or send Klaus an email. He doesn't make many mistakes.

 

Sam 

 

On Thu, Sep 3, 2020, 3:59 PM Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:

Kevin,

Now I see your other email.  I think I see what you mean.  Yes, the mounting bracket should go left of centerline but the sensor should be on the right side of the mounting bracket.  So I am still thinking it was sent incorrectly.
--

Corbin 
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Re: Those with Light Speed Electronic Ignition...

Richard Thomson
 

Are you running twin batteries? Can you have separate power feeds to the Dual Ignition system ?

Rich T.

On 04/09/2020 23:59, Corbin via groups.io wrote:
Dual ignition.  No mags!  😀

Corbin

On Sep 4, 2020, at 5:45 PM, Richard Thomson <richard@...> wrote:



Hey Corbin is that Dual ignition or are you running one mag ?

Rich T.

On 04/09/2020 19:52, Corbin via groups.io wrote:
Thanks Jay.  Jim’s been a great help over the phone the last couple of days.

Me, Jim, and Kevin all have different versions of the Light Speed setup.

Corbin

On Sep 4, 2020, at 1:25 PM, Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote:



I think that Jim Patillo has a lightspeed. Is that right Jim. Any ideas for Corbin?

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Corbin via groups.io
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2020 6:02 AM
To: main@q-list.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Those with Light Speed Electronic Ignition...

 

It looks like you could to me as well.  The only thing that makes me second guess that is the install manual makes a point to notate the sensor wire needs to “point” clockwise (right/to the pilot side) on top and bottom. 

Corbin



On Sep 4, 2020, at 12:17 AM, David J. Gall <David@...> wrote:



Corbin,

 

It looks to me like you could just install the mount as assembled at the factory, but put it on the left side of the case split line under the nuts instead of under the heads of the case bolts….

 

My $.02

 

David J. Gall

 

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Corbin via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2020 3:14 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Those with Light Speed Electronic Ignition...

 

Well, I have noticed a few mistakes in the manual so far.  For instance, there are no stainless steel flush screws and no circuit board to install.  Many steps should be updated and omitted.

 

I contacted Klaus but that didn't go anywhere.  I am 99% sure he installed the sensor incorrectly.  I just can't see how it would be correct.

 

Corbin Ge!ser


On September 3, 2020 at 5:05 PM, Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@...> wrote:

Do exactly what the instructions say. If you are unsure call or send Klaus an email. He doesn't make many mistakes.

 

Sam 

 

On Thu, Sep 3, 2020, 3:59 PM Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:

Kevin,

Now I see your other email.  I think I see what you mean.  Yes, the mounting bracket should go left of centerline but the sensor should be on the right side of the mounting bracket.  So I am still thinking it was sent incorrectly.
--

Corbin 
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Re: AMS/OIL Racer NASA Report

kingdws@...
 

Mmmmm depending on the prop that rpm could be  right. I seem to recall tip speeds in the transonic range. 

Right until the crash I kept thinking that a proper off season of tinkering and it would walk away.  

Dave 

On Sun, Sep 6, 2020, 23:31 Michael <dunningme@...> wrote:
From earlier 1982 article "The original engine red-line is 2700 rpm, but a helicopter cam permits 3200 rpm and Dan races at 3400 rpm." There was also some mention of one-off mods to turn the engine into an injected IO-variant?
--
-MD
#2827 (still thinking about planning on visualizing how to finish building)


Re: Next Q-Tour - Jerry Marstall - Saturday, September 12 Tri-Q

Richard Thomson
 

Looking forward to it Sam, need to set my alarm to remind me :-0

Rich T.

On 06/09/2020 17:21, Sam Hoskins wrote:
Join Jerry, from Asheville, NC, as he shows us his beautiful Tri-Q. One of the unique features of this aircraft is the dual side-stick controls. To join the meeting, click on the link at the end of this message. Please don't log in until 9:00 AM, Central Saving Time. Again, after Jerry's 40 minute Q-Tour ends, we can re-enter the Zoom meeting for an open mic session. Paul Fisher will be the host.
 
As you probably know, we have had some technical problems with some of the Zoom Q-Tours, so we came up with a Plan B. If the connection is crappy and it’s apparent that the Zoom meeting will be unable to continue, Jerry & Paul will logout and stop the meeting, then Jerry will record his own private Q-Tour and we’ll get it uploaded to the YouTube channel in short order.

Paul Fisher is inviting you to a Zoom meeting.

Topic: Q-Tour - Jerry Marstall
Time: Sep 12, 2020 09:00 AM Central Time (US and Canada)
 
Join Zoom Meeting
 
Meeting ID: 342 511 8003
Passcode: Jerry


Re: AMS/OIL Racer NASA Report

Michael
 

From earlier 1982 article "The original engine red-line is 2700 rpm, but a helicopter cam permits 3200 rpm and Dan races at 3400 rpm." There was also some mention of one-off mods to turn the engine into an injected IO-variant?
--
-MD
#2827 (still thinking about planning on visualizing how to finish building)


Re: AMS/OIL Racer NASA Report

John Hoxie
 

It used a Lycoming O-320. They could shave over 100 pounds now with the engine options.

 
John Hoxie
He is no fool, who gives up what he can not keep, to gain what he can not loose -- Jim Elliot


On Sunday, September 6, 2020, 08:56:53 PM MDT, Michael <dunningme@...> wrote:


The May 1982 Homebuilt Aircraft article states "Total empty weight of the racer is 865 pounds with 1126 for gross."

The NASA report lists a 1200 pound gross but doesn't give an empty weight.
--
-MD
#2827 (still thinking about planning on visualizing how to finish building)


Re: AMS/OIL Racer NASA Report

kingdws@...
 

Does anybody recall what the engine was? I keep thinking it was a O-200 modified with a roller cam? And the red lightine was 5600?  


On Sun, Sep 6, 2020, 19:56 Michael <dunningme@...> wrote:
The May 1982 Homebuilt Aircraft article states "Total empty weight of the racer is 865 pounds with 1126 for gross."

The NASA report lists a 1200 pound gross but doesn't give an empty weight.
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Re: AMS/OIL Racer NASA Report

Michael
 

The May 1982 Homebuilt Aircraft article states "Total empty weight of the racer is 865 pounds with 1126 for gross."

The NASA report lists a 1200 pound gross but doesn't give an empty weight.
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Re: AMS/OIL Racer NASA Report

John Hoxie
 

The Amsoil Racer had a MTOW of 1126. The empty weight not listed, 160 hp Lycoming.


On Sun, Sep 6, 2020 at 8:30 PM, John Hoxie via groups.io
<hoxdesigns@...> wrote:
I read about the Amsoil Racer. It seems odd to attempt speed records, it raced in the 1000#-2000# takeoff weight. I would think it should have been well under 1000#. It set a 235 mph in a 75 mile closed course record. I will look at the specs.


On Sun, Sep 6, 2020 at 2:59 PM, Michael
<dunningme@...> wrote:
I forgot about this little gem until I rewatched the Mike Arnold AR-5 special on YouTube last night:

NASA TP-2256 Natural Laminar Flow Experiments on Modern Airplane Surfaces

This report includes flight tests of several airplanes, including the VariEze, Long-EZ, and "Laser Biplane Racer". Otherwise known as the AMS/OIL racer ;)

"Rutan Laser Biplane Racer.- A single-place biplane with large negative-stagger and a tractor-propeller (figs. 7 and 8) was tested in flight. Detailed physical characteristics of the airplane are shown in table 7. The wing airfoil design coordinates are given in table 8."

For those unaware, Mike Arnold's family posted all of his old VHS tapes onto YouTube in his honor after his passing... Absolutely amazing stuff on homebuilt composites and low drag aircraft design/modification:

The Arnold Company YouTube Channel

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#2827 (still thinking about planning on visualizing how to finish building)


Re: AMS/OIL Racer NASA Report

John Hoxie
 

I read about the Amsoil Racer. It seems odd to attempt speed records, it raced in the 1000#-2000# takeoff weight. I would think it should have been well under 1000#. It set a 235 mph in a 75 mile closed course record. I will look at the specs.


On Sun, Sep 6, 2020 at 2:59 PM, Michael
<dunningme@...> wrote:
I forgot about this little gem until I rewatched the Mike Arnold AR-5 special on YouTube last night:

NASA TP-2256 Natural Laminar Flow Experiments on Modern Airplane Surfaces

This report includes flight tests of several airplanes, including the VariEze, Long-EZ, and "Laser Biplane Racer". Otherwise known as the AMS/OIL racer ;)

"Rutan Laser Biplane Racer.- A single-place biplane with large negative-stagger and a tractor-propeller (figs. 7 and 8) was tested in flight. Detailed physical characteristics of the airplane are shown in table 7. The wing airfoil design coordinates are given in table 8."

For those unaware, Mike Arnold's family posted all of his old VHS tapes onto YouTube in his honor after his passing... Absolutely amazing stuff on homebuilt composites and low drag aircraft design/modification:

The Arnold Company YouTube Channel

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-MD
#2827 (still thinking about planning on visualizing how to finish building)


AMS/OIL Racer NASA Report

Michael
 

I forgot about this little gem until I rewatched the Mike Arnold AR-5 special on YouTube last night:

NASA TP-2256 Natural Laminar Flow Experiments on Modern Airplane Surfaces

This report includes flight tests of several airplanes, including the VariEze, Long-EZ, and "Laser Biplane Racer". Otherwise known as the AMS/OIL racer ;)

"Rutan Laser Biplane Racer.- A single-place biplane with large negative-stagger and a tractor-propeller (figs. 7 and 8) was tested in flight. Detailed physical characteristics of the airplane are shown in table 7. The wing airfoil design coordinates are given in table 8."

For those unaware, Mike Arnold's family posted all of his old VHS tapes onto YouTube in his honor after his passing... Absolutely amazing stuff on homebuilt composites and low drag aircraft design/modification:

The Arnold Company YouTube Channel

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-MD
#2827 (still thinking about planning on visualizing how to finish building)


Re: Those with Light Speed Electronic Ignition...

Rick Hole
 

I like Klaus' sensor.  I've installed a bunch of the previous with a circuit board for the ring. That was a pain in the neck.  Ulimately you need the sensor to align with the magnet at TDC and both magnets to center over their corresponding sensors.
A Klaus story: I had one plane where two plugs would not fire.  I narrowed it to a defective coil.  I replaced the coil from a spare unit succesfully.  Klaus would not sell me a coil as he had never seen one fail.  He insisted it must have been an installation error.  I brought a coil elsewhere.  
Yes he can be difficult. But he has a good product.
Rick Hole

On Sun, Sep 6, 2020, 2:08 PM Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
Let’s hope so.  I was able to get both sensors and the plate mounted yesterday morning.  Pic below of the top one.



Corbin

On Sep 6, 2020, at 2:30 PM, Michael <dunningme@...> wrote:

I think you're right about flipping it, Corbin. It looks to me like if you unbolted it, rotated it 180°, and swapped it to the other side that the parts markings/lettering would match up to what's shown in the manual.
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