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Re: Field of Dreams Reunion 2020!

Paul Fisher
 

Hey Bruce!
I don't have ADS-B out in my Q, so I won't show up on FlightAware.  But you can track me here:

I'm really looking forward to the trip!! 

Paul Fisher
Q-200 N17PF

On Thu, Sep 10, 2020, 22:16 Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...> wrote:
Say Qbees would you pilots like to send me your N Number so that we can track you on Flight Aware?  Either send it to me on this  main@Q-List.groups.io   e mail or send it to me via my e-mail.
 
After talking with Dave Dugas tonight he suggested that lots of the Quickie group would love to track us into and out of Enid FOD!
 
Bruce Crain



Re: New Skins for “Baby”

Rick Hole
 

Nice job!
Rick Hole

On Thu, Sep 10, 2020, 9:32 PM Jim Patillo <Logistics_engineering@...> wrote:


I can’t believe it’s been 20 years since I installed the first interior.  

Still have to steam the bottom cushions and headrests to tighten them up and she will be ready to go. Cushions are made from 3 types of Temper Foam which forms to your body. 

I still love flying this bird!

Jim
N46JP - Q200


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Re: New Skins for “Baby”

Richard Thomson
 

Wow Jim, thats smart.

Are you taking orders?

Rich T.

On 11/09/2020 04:32, Jim Patillo wrote:
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I can’t believe it’s been 20 years since I installed the first interior.  

Still have to steam the bottom cushions and headrests to tighten them up and she will be ready to go. Cushions are made from 3 types of Temper Foam which forms to your body. 

I still love flying this bird!

Jim
N46JP - Q200


Sent from Outer Space


Re: New Skins for "Baby"

Jon Finley
 

VERY, VERY Nice Jim!!!

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Patillo
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 9:32 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] New Skins for “Baby”

 

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I can’t believe it’s been 20 years since I installed the first interior.  

 

Still have to steam the bottom cushions and headrests to tighten them up and she will be ready to go. Cushions are made from 3 types of Temper Foam which forms to your body. 



I still love flying this bird!

 

Jim

N46JP - Q200

 

 

Sent from Outer Space


[Logistics_engineering@...]

 

 


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Jon Finley
Somewhere in the Southwest flying an RV-4


Reminfer Next Q-Tour - Jerry Marstall - Saturday, September 12 Tri-Q

Sam Hoskins
 


Join Jerry, from Asheville, NC, as he shows us his beautiful Tri-Q. One of the unique features of this aircraft is the dual side-stick controls. To join the meeting, click on the link at the end of this message. Please don't log in until 9:00 AM, Central Saving Time. Again, after Jerry's 40 minute Q-Tour ends, we can re-enter the Zoom meeting for an open mic session. Paul Fisher will be the host.
 
As you probably know, we have had some technical problems with some of the Zoom Q-Tours, so we came up with a Plan B. If the connection is crappy and it’s apparent that the Zoom meeting will be unable to continue, Jerry & Paul will logout and stop the meeting, then Jerry will record his own private Q-Tour and we’ll get it uploaded to the YouTube channel in short order.

Paul Fisher is inviting you to a Zoom meeting.

Topic: Q-Tour - Jerry Marstall
Time: Sep 12, 2020 09:00 AM Central Time (US and Canada)
 
Join Zoom Meeting
 
Meeting ID: 342 511 8003
Passcode: Jerry


Re: Field of Dreams Reunion 2020!

John Hoxie
 

Great suggestion.


On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 9:16 PM, Bruce Crain
<jcrain2@...> wrote:
Say Qbees would you pilots like to send me your N Number so that we can track you on Flight Aware?  Either send it to me on this  main@Q-List.groups.io   e mail or send it to me via my e-mail.
 
After talking with Dave Dugas tonight he suggested that lots of the Quickie group would love to track us into and out of Enid FOD!
 
Bruce Crain



Re: New Skins for “Baby”

John Hoxie
 

Jim,
It looks very comfy.


On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 9:32 PM, Jim Patillo
<Logistics_engineering@...> wrote:
Image.jpegImage.jpeg

I can’t believe it’s been 20 years since I installed the first interior.  

Still have to steam the bottom cushions and headrests to tighten them up and she will be ready to go. Cushions are made from 3 types of Temper Foam which forms to your body. 

I still love flying this bird!

Jim
N46JP - Q200


Sent from Outer Space

[Logistics_engineering@...]



Re: New Skins for “Baby”

Jim Patillo
 

Image.jpegImage.jpeg

I can’t believe it’s been 20 years since I installed the first interior.  

Still have to steam the bottom cushions and headrests to tighten them up and she will be ready to go. Cushions are made from 3 types of Temper Foam which forms to your body. 

I still love flying this bird!

Jim
N46JP - Q200


Sent from Outer Space

[Logistics_engineering@...]



Field of Dreams Reunion 2020!

Bruce Crain
 

Say Qbees would you pilots like to send me your N Number so that we can track you on Flight Aware?  Either send it to me on this  main@Q-List.groups.io   e mail or send it to me via my e-mail.
 
After talking with Dave Dugas tonight he suggested that lots of the Quickie group would love to track us into and out of Enid FOD!
 
Bruce Crain



Re: ISO TriQ nose gear

Sam Hoskins
 

Okay. 

Enough people have had their say. Paul and I are even getting emails off-line. So here's the scoop. This forum isn't Facebook, so we'll play nice here , right? If you have something to settle with some one, do it somewheres else. We have over 800 people on this list, please remember that when you post something.

We don't want to get any more notices that people are dropping off the list because they don't like the tone of what they are reading.

Any more posts that make me uncomfortable will result in a demotion to 100% moderated status. 

Capisce?

Sam (and probably Paul) 

On Wed, Sep 9, 2020, 2:53 PM JMasal via groups.io <JMasal=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
RK
Just to exercise my management degree a bit (and actual experience) a business bankrupts NOT from CHEAP customers but POOR management. Own that, don't pass the buck.
If you price the product for a profit and it is too high, customers won't buy. If they don't buy don't make more, get the hell outta that product, make something else or quit because
YOU didn't understand the market. Freshman economic theory!

j.




-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Kaczmarek 3RD <fastlittleairplanes@...>
To: main@q-list.groups.io
Cc: Jay Scheevel <jay@...>
Sent: Tue, Sep 8, 2020 12:46 pm
Subject: Re: [Q-List] ISO TriQ nose gear

First off Ryan you never paid for a new nose gear. We discontinued making Q parts because it costed us more in time material and labor then the community was willing to pay for it. As of the time we closed the doors on Fast Little Airplanes we had not received or owed anyone money. The Q stuff was given away to one of the members in the RAFM and when he gets some free time here soon he will offer the parts once again. Fact is we had to step away as the Qs were costing us more to support then we were making. By folks being CHEAP and unwilling to pay what it cost to produce parts it bankrupted the business and forced me to let it all go. This attitude among owners is what one member of this group warned me about years ago and I have to concede that he was correct. This is the same reason NVaero had to quit with the KR aircraft. If folks want to continue being cheap the value of the fleet will continue to spiral down and support will continue to disappear. 

Richard 

On Tue, Sep 8, 2020, 1:00 PM ryan goodman via groups.io <elboy0712=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
[Edited Message Follows]
I've talked to Scott. There's some post kit history that makes it complicated. Scott trusted Richard to produce the product. He didn't  No fault of Scott's. Richard owes me a nose gear already. He has owed it to me and not delivered for years. I'm not the only one he's not delivered things to owes to but I've chosen to not make a stink. So I'm trying to solve my own problem. Just looking for data at this point to help me do that. Thanks again, Ryan!

 

On Mon, Sep 7, 2020 at 8:38 PM, Jay Scheevel
<jay@...> wrote:
Hi Ryan,
 
I would contact Scott Swing at Velocity Aircraft. He built the original Tri-Q conversion kit while working for QAC, and built a limited number of replacement gear for some of us in the early 2000's using the Velocity Aircraft tooling and facilities. He may be willing to build one for a price or at least give you the dimensions and specs. If not maybe Richard Kazmeric would have the specs.
 
Cheers,
Jay
 
Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID


"ryan goodman via groups.io" <elboy0712=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Anyone have a TriQ nose great they're not in need if and are willing to part with for less than one of my kidneys? Or at the very least one I could pay to have shipped to me for reference for making a new one. I can't seem to find the plans/diagrams etc for the nose gear specifically and mine is toast. Unless maybe I'm just blind and not seeing them in the TriQ conversion plans. In which case I'm happy to be directed to the place my own stupidity is failing to find... Let me know and thanks in advance!!
     Ryan G. COS

 


Re: ISO TriQ nose gear

JMasal@...
 

RK
Just to exercise my management degree a bit (and actual experience) a business bankrupts NOT from CHEAP customers but POOR management. Own that, don't pass the buck.
If you price the product for a profit and it is too high, customers won't buy. If they don't buy don't make more, get the hell outta that product, make something else or quit because
YOU didn't understand the market. Freshman economic theory!

j.




-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Kaczmarek 3RD <fastlittleairplanes@...>
To: main@q-list.groups.io
Cc: Jay Scheevel <jay@...>
Sent: Tue, Sep 8, 2020 12:46 pm
Subject: Re: [Q-List] ISO TriQ nose gear

First off Ryan you never paid for a new nose gear. We discontinued making Q parts because it costed us more in time material and labor then the community was willing to pay for it. As of the time we closed the doors on Fast Little Airplanes we had not received or owed anyone money. The Q stuff was given away to one of the members in the RAFM and when he gets some free time here soon he will offer the parts once again. Fact is we had to step away as the Qs were costing us more to support then we were making. By folks being CHEAP and unwilling to pay what it cost to produce parts it bankrupted the business and forced me to let it all go. This attitude among owners is what one member of this group warned me about years ago and I have to concede that he was correct. This is the same reason NVaero had to quit with the KR aircraft. If folks want to continue being cheap the value of the fleet will continue to spiral down and support will continue to disappear. 

Richard 

On Tue, Sep 8, 2020, 1:00 PM ryan goodman via groups.io <elboy0712=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
[Edited Message Follows]
I've talked to Scott. There's some post kit history that makes it complicated. Scott trusted Richard to produce the product. He didn't  No fault of Scott's. Richard owes me a nose gear already. He has owed it to me and not delivered for years. I'm not the only one he's not delivered things to owes to but I've chosen to not make a stink. So I'm trying to solve my own problem. Just looking for data at this point to help me do that. Thanks again, Ryan!

 

On Mon, Sep 7, 2020 at 8:38 PM, Jay Scheevel
<jay@...> wrote:
Hi Ryan,
 
I would contact Scott Swing at Velocity Aircraft. He built the original Tri-Q conversion kit while working for QAC, and built a limited number of replacement gear for some of us in the early 2000's using the Velocity Aircraft tooling and facilities. He may be willing to build one for a price or at least give you the dimensions and specs. If not maybe Richard Kazmeric would have the specs.
 
Cheers,
Jay
 
Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID


"ryan goodman via groups.io" <elboy0712=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Anyone have a TriQ nose great they're not in need if and are willing to part with for less than one of my kidneys? Or at the very least one I could pay to have shipped to me for reference for making a new one. I can't seem to find the plans/diagrams etc for the nose gear specifically and mine is toast. Unless maybe I'm just blind and not seeing them in the TriQ conversion plans. In which case I'm happy to be directed to the place my own stupidity is failing to find... Let me know and thanks in advance!!
     Ryan G. COS

 


Re: "FIELD OF DREAMS"!!

Corbin
 

Hey Bruce.  You are 100% correct...I would learn a ton.  Who knows, maybe I will fly up in the Cherokee Six.

Corbin

On September 9, 2020 at 9:24 AM, Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...> wrote:

Corbin you can always drive up to Enid and join us if you like.  You might pick up a few things to try on your Q from the group.
Bruce Crain





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Corbin 
N33QR


Re: "FIELD OF DREAMS"!!

John Hoxie
 

All,
Phil has graciously offered to fly me to FOD this year.


On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 8:14 AM, Bruce Crain
<jcrain2@...> wrote:
Corbin you can always drive up to Enid and join us if you like.  You might pick up a few things to try on your Q from the group.
Bruce Crain



Re: "FIELD OF DREAMS"!!

Bruce Crain
 

Corbin you can always drive up to Enid and join us if you like.  You might pick up a few things to try on your Q from the group.
Bruce Crain



Re: Those with Light Speed Electronic Ignition...

Rick Hole
 

I second that.  At Velocity we learned nit to out them there.  When hot they would malfunction 
Rick Hole 

On Tue, Sep 8, 2020, 6:27 PM Mike Dwyer <q200pilot@...> wrote:
One possible issue.  After shut down the area at the top of the cowl gets very hot!  I always try to point the Q into the wind and open the oil check door to try and keep that heat down.  Coils may not like that heat much?  You may want to put a thermocouple up there to see what it's doing.
Fly Safe,
Mike Dwyer

Q200 Website: http://goo.gl/V8IrJF


On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 5:54 PM Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
For those interested,  here is where I have decided to mount the ignition coils. Both are below the highest point (the fuel spider).   The two that are mounted to the aluminum plate (nearest the magnet plate) will actually be mounted below the plate;  I didn't have the right hardware so just temp mounted for the photo.


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Corbin 
N33QR


Re: "FIELD OF DREAMS"!!

Corbin
 

Thanks for the encouragement, Phil and Bruce!

Corbin

On Sep 8, 2020, at 9:02 PM, Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...> wrote:

Looks like you have plenty of great advice!  Not counting you out yet!  Miracles happen and especially when time and effort are used.  😉
Bruce


On Sep 8, 2020, at 6:40 PM, Phil Lankford via groups.io <britmcman@...> wrote:

Well get’er done. 

Here are a few photos

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On Sep 8, 2020, at 7:47 AM, Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser@...> wrote:

I was hoping to make it this year but I am still playing around with the Lightspeed ignition install.  Trying to decide where and how to mount the two coils today.   Pic below for the fun of it.  

Let's just change Field of Dreams from Enid to McKinney, Texas this year.  You know....just to benefit me and no one else.  :)

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Corbin 
N33QR



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Corbin 
N33QR


Re: "FIELD OF DREAMS"!!

Bruce Crain
 

Looks like you have plenty of great advice!  Not counting you out yet!  Miracles happen and especially when time and effort are used.  😉
Bruce


On Sep 8, 2020, at 6:40 PM, Phil Lankford via groups.io <britmcman@...> wrote:

Well get’er done. 

Here are a few photos

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On Sep 8, 2020, at 7:47 AM, Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser@...> wrote:

I was hoping to make it this year but I am still playing around with the Lightspeed ignition install.  Trying to decide where and how to mount the two coils today.   Pic below for the fun of it.  

Let's just change Field of Dreams from Enid to McKinney, Texas this year.  You know....just to benefit me and no one else.  :)

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Corbin 
N33QR



Re: Those with Light Speed Electronic Ignition...

Corbin
 

For what it's worth, Klaus recommends the top of the engine like you have them Jim (and me now) and then firewall second.
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Corbin 
N33QR


Re: Those with Light Speed Electronic Ignition...

Jim Patillo
 

Mike, my 4 coils have resided on top of the engine since 2002. They’ve worked there without any problems. I replaced them last year just because of all the years and time on them.

I know Klaus didn’t like it but I couldn’t find any place else to put them. Just a point of reference.

Jim
N46JP Q200

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From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Mike Dwyer <q200pilot@...>
Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2020 5:26:46 PM
To: main@q-list.groups.io <main@q-list.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Those with Light Speed Electronic Ignition...
 
One possible issue.  After shut down the area at the top of the cowl gets very hot!  I always try to point the Q into the wind and open the oil check door to try and keep that heat down.  Coils may not like that heat much?  You may want to put a thermocouple up there to see what it's doing.
Fly Safe,
Mike Dwyer

Q200 Website: http://goo.gl/V8IrJF


On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 5:54 PM Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
For those interested,  here is where I have decided to mount the ignition coils. Both are below the highest point (the fuel spider).   The two that are mounted to the aluminum plate (nearest the magnet plate) will actually be mounted below the plate;  I didn't have the right hardware so just temp mounted for the photo.


--

Corbin 
N33QR


Re: Those with Light Speed Electronic Ignition...

Corbin
 

According to Klaus, the 4cyl don't require cooling but I do have scat tubing pointed at them; just didn't have a hose clamp to mount it today.  If the plate shows signs of wear then I  will beef it up.  Thanks for that tip!
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Corbin 
N33QR

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