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Re: Increased fuel capacity

Brian Larick
 


The light one is prefab from CDC.  See pic of label.  The dark one is made and cut per-plans. Penmanship’s never been my strong point.

The arc matches for both tanks.  Just the height and lengths are larger.  I’ll do the best I can for max measurements.
Measuring the max arc length possible from the back of the tank around to the bottom lip at the front is 34 inches.  The strait line distance from back lip to front lip is 24 inches.  For reference the vertical section of the front wall is 8 1/2 inches.

Those are max lengths you could cut down from there.

Those lengths on the per plans are 30 1/4, 22 and 6.
Brian

On Oct 19, 2020, at 23:05, ryan goodman <elboy0712@...> wrote:

Yes please. Would love the data to recreate.


On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 8:58 PM, Brian Larick
<blarick@...> wrote:
There is a larger main tank pre fab that was available.  I have one if you want pics or dimensions.


It’s basically the same tank by shape just larger.  I think it nets to about 20 gallons.

Brian

On Oct 19, 2020, at 22:11, ryan goodman via groups.io <elboy0712@...> wrote:

I just watched your epoxy wipe video give minutes ago. It was your fuel cap blog, combined with an earlier conversation with another owner that made me ask.


On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 8:06 PM, Sam Hoskins
<sam.hoskins@...> wrote:
My header tank is 6.5, main tank 16.5 and the removable tank behind the pilot is 9 gallons. So, 32 total. Range is 800+ miles.

Sam

On Mon, Oct 19, 2020, 8:33 PM ryan goodman via groups.io <elboy0712=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
I'm curious if anyone has made modifications to their Q2s to increase fuel capacity. If so how did you go about it? How did it effect your CG?
     Thanks, Ryan



Re: Increased fuel capacity

ryan goodman
 

Yes please. Would love the data to recreate.


On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 8:58 PM, Brian Larick
<blarick@...> wrote:
There is a larger main tank pre fab that was available.  I have one if you want pics or dimensions.


It’s basically the same tank by shape just larger.  I think it nets to about 20 gallons.

Brian

On Oct 19, 2020, at 22:11, ryan goodman via groups.io <elboy0712@...> wrote:

I just watched your epoxy wipe video give minutes ago. It was your fuel cap blog, combined with an earlier conversation with another owner that made me ask.


On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 8:06 PM, Sam Hoskins
<sam.hoskins@...> wrote:
My header tank is 6.5, main tank 16.5 and the removable tank behind the pilot is 9 gallons. So, 32 total. Range is 800+ miles.

Sam

On Mon, Oct 19, 2020, 8:33 PM ryan goodman via groups.io <elboy0712=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
I'm curious if anyone has made modifications to their Q2s to increase fuel capacity. If so how did you go about it? How did it effect your CG?
     Thanks, Ryan



Re: Increased fuel capacity

Brian Larick
 

There is a larger main tank pre fab that was available.  I have one if you want pics or dimensions.


It’s basically the same tank by shape just larger.  I think it nets to about 20 gallons.

Brian

On Oct 19, 2020, at 22:11, ryan goodman via groups.io <elboy0712@...> wrote:

I just watched your epoxy wipe video give minutes ago. It was your fuel cap blog, combined with an earlier conversation with another owner that made me ask.


On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 8:06 PM, Sam Hoskins
<sam.hoskins@...> wrote:
My header tank is 6.5, main tank 16.5 and the removable tank behind the pilot is 9 gallons. So, 32 total. Range is 800+ miles.

Sam

On Mon, Oct 19, 2020, 8:33 PM ryan goodman via groups.io <elboy0712=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
I'm curious if anyone has made modifications to their Q2s to increase fuel capacity. If so how did you go about it? How did it effect your CG?
     Thanks, Ryan



Re: Increased fuel capacity

ryan goodman
 

I just watched your epoxy wipe video give minutes ago. It was your fuel cap blog, combined with an earlier conversation with another owner that made me ask.


On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 8:06 PM, Sam Hoskins
<sam.hoskins@...> wrote:
My header tank is 6.5, main tank 16.5 and the removable tank behind the pilot is 9 gallons. So, 32 total. Range is 800+ miles.

Sam

On Mon, Oct 19, 2020, 8:33 PM ryan goodman via groups.io <elboy0712=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
I'm curious if anyone has made modifications to their Q2s to increase fuel capacity. If so how did you go about it? How did it effect your CG?
     Thanks, Ryan



Re: Increased fuel capacity

Corbin
 

I’ve seen Sam’s removable tank and dream of a similar setup.  My header is 5 gallons and my main is 15 gallons.

Corbin

On Oct 19, 2020, at 9:06 PM, Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@...> wrote:


My header tank is 6.5, main tank 16.5 and the removable tank behind the pilot is 9 gallons. So, 32 total. Range is 800+ miles.

Sam

On Mon, Oct 19, 2020, 8:33 PM ryan goodman via groups.io <elboy0712=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
I'm curious if anyone has made modifications to their Q2s to increase fuel capacity. If so how did you go about it? How did it effect your CG?
     Thanks, Ryan


--

Corbin 
N33QR


Re: Increased fuel capacity

Sam Hoskins
 

My header tank is 6.5, main tank 16.5 and the removable tank behind the pilot is 9 gallons. So, 32 total. Range is 800+ miles.

Sam

On Mon, Oct 19, 2020, 8:33 PM ryan goodman via groups.io <elboy0712=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
I'm curious if anyone has made modifications to their Q2s to increase fuel capacity. If so how did you go about it? How did it effect your CG?
     Thanks, Ryan


Increased fuel capacity

ryan goodman
 

I'm curious if anyone has made modifications to their Q2s to increase fuel capacity. If so how did you go about it? How did it effect your CG?
     Thanks, Ryan


Re: Coughlin Brake Mount Drawings

Michael
 

Totally agree, Mike. Another tip I picked up was to check them for rotational balance (first part of Coughlin's letter in Post #1). One of mine was waaaay out(!), so I picked up some wheel weights for use after final assembly.
--
-MD
#2827 (still thinking about planning on visualizing how to finish building)


Re: Coughlin Brake Mount Drawings

Mike Dwyer
 

One thing that I've never heard of anyone talking about is making sure the rotor is true.  You have to clean up the wheel hub where the rotor bolts onto if you want smooth brakes.  Bolt the wheel together, spin it on a shaft and measure how much the rotor wobbles.
Get er done.
Mike Dwyer N3QP Q200

Q200 Website: http://goo.gl/V8IrJF


On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 8:00 PM Michael <dunningme@...> wrote:
Obligatory long-overdue status update. The wooden brackets for test fitment are finally done:

https://youtu.be/hkhMwPt2CwQ

This photo really shows the difference in size (and weight) between the Couglin/Hoskins version and the LaRue->Hiatt / tenHave set currently installed on half of my plane. Next steps are to bolt everything together and see how they fit. I'm hoping to reuse the stock wheel-pant covers, since these don't fit under the ones I have now:



For those that are wondering, the previous builder was halfway through the brake upgrade when progress stopped. So I have one complete, installed set of the LaRue->Hiatt / tenHave versions on the passenger side and just the uninstalled parts, shown above, for the pilot's side. I experienced significant binding in the currently installed mounts and decided to investigate these while I still had the same amount of work to either continue on with these parts or retrofit to the Coughlin/Hoskins version.
--
-MD
#2827 (still thinking about planning on visualizing how to finish building)


Re: Coughlin Brake Mount Drawings

Michael
 

Obligatory long-overdue status update. The wooden brackets for test fitment are finally done:

https://youtu.be/hkhMwPt2CwQ

This photo really shows the difference in size (and weight) between the Couglin/Hoskins version and the LaRue->Hiatt / tenHave set currently installed on half of my plane. Next steps are to bolt everything together and see how they fit. I'm hoping to reuse the stock wheel-pant covers, since these don't fit under the ones I have now:



For those that are wondering, the previous builder was halfway through the brake upgrade when progress stopped. So I have one complete, installed set of the LaRue->Hiatt / tenHave versions on the passenger side and just the uninstalled parts, shown above, for the pilot's side. I experienced significant binding in the currently installed mounts and decided to investigate these while I still had the same amount of work to either continue on with these parts or retrofit to the Coughlin/Hoskins version.
--
-MD
#2827 (still thinking about planning on visualizing how to finish building)


Re: Build times

airheart@...
 

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From: main@Q-List.groups.io [mailto:main@Q-List.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jay Scheevel
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 2:16 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Build times

 

Just your time

 

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID



Michael <dunningme@...> wrote:

Do we include the previous builder's time (if known) in the partially built total or just personal years since buying it?
--
-MD
#2827 (still thinking about planning on visualizing how to finish building)


Re: Build times

Jay Scheevel
 

Just your time

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID


Michael <dunningme@...> wrote:

Do we include the previous builder's time (if known) in the partially built total or just personal years since buying it?
--
-MD
#2827 (still thinking about planning on visualizing how to finish building)


Re: Build times

Jim Patillo
 

Michael,

Maybe we should have two categories. One for original build and one for semi complete build being completed by 2nd or 3rd party. If you know and can confirm by log, adding the previous builder should be appropriate.

I think Jay is right. We won’t see many more builds from scratch. I only know of a couple.

Jim
N46JP -Q200
Still lovin’ my bird after 20 years of flying it.

Sent from Outer Space


From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Michael <dunningme@...>
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 9:44:50 AM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Build times
 
Do we include the previous builder's time (if known) in the partially built total or just personal years since buying it?
--
-MD
#2827 (still thinking about planning on visualizing how to finish building)


Re: Build times

Michael
 

Do we include the previous builder's time (if known) in the partially built total or just personal years since buying it?
--
-MD
#2827 (still thinking about planning on visualizing how to finish building)


Build time survey (starting with partially built kit) #poll-notice

Jay Scheevel
 

If you have a completed, flying aircraft (or built one that you no longer own)
AND
You built starting with a partially built kit
PLEASE
pick a year range below

Results

See Who Responded


Re: Build times

Dave Dugas
 

Started building November 1, 1982…..first flight April 16, 2000.  Plans built with the LS1 canard and Revmaster engine.  Over 1200 hours flown. No idea of the hours spent building, but worth every minute.

Dave Dugas   N68DD

 

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From: Jay Scheevel
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 9:50 AM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Build times

 

Thanks Kevin,

 

Yours is probably more relevant, since almost no one from here on out will be buying a virgin kit. They are almost all partially built.  Would be good to have you do a zoom sometime to tell everyone how you found and fixed the mistakes.

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Boddicker
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 7:16 AM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Build times

 

Do we that bought a project, partially built, get to play?

 

TriQ on the gear when purchased. New nose gear, built new main wing replaced same, fixed many mistakes, MANY mistakes.

Mounted engine, designed electrical, rehabbed header take, fuel plumbing, firewall forward items, filled and sand for two years.

Paid to have it painted, and color sanded.

Bought project Aug 99, AW cert Oct 05, first flight March 10, 06.

Guessing at least 1000 hours.

 

 

Kevin Boddicker
TriQ 200 N7868B   538 hrs
Luana, IA.


 

On Oct 18, 2020, at 4:06 PM, Jim Patillo <Logistics_engineering@...> wrote:

 

This could be fun. Let’s take a quick survey! How long did your Quickie take to build from delivery of QAC materials. Which model do you have? How many years and man hours did it take?

Mine was started in January1981 and finished in 2000. It’s a Q200, took 19 + years and 4000 hours to first flight. First flown August 2000. 

Jim
N46JP - Q200

 

 

 


Build Time Survey (starting with virgin kit) #poll-notice

Jay Scheevel
 

If you have a completed, flying aircraft (or built one that you no longer own)
AND
You built it from an unstarted kit
PLEASE
pick a year range below

Results

See Who Responded


Re: Build times

Jay Scheevel
 

Thanks Kevin,

 

Yours is probably more relevant, since almost no one from here on out will be buying a virgin kit. They are almost all partially built.  Would be good to have you do a zoom sometime to tell everyone how you found and fixed the mistakes.

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Boddicker
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 7:16 AM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Build times

 

Do we that bought a project, partially built, get to play?

 

TriQ on the gear when purchased. New nose gear, built new main wing replaced same, fixed many mistakes, MANY mistakes.

Mounted engine, designed electrical, rehabbed header take, fuel plumbing, firewall forward items, filled and sand for two years.

Paid to have it painted, and color sanded.

Bought project Aug 99, AW cert Oct 05, first flight March 10, 06.

Guessing at least 1000 hours.

 

 

Kevin Boddicker
TriQ 200 N7868B   538 hrs
Luana, IA.





On Oct 18, 2020, at 4:06 PM, Jim Patillo <Logistics_engineering@...> wrote:

 

This could be fun. Let’s take a quick survey! How long did your Quickie take to build from delivery of QAC materials. Which model do you have? How many years and man hours did it take?

Mine was started in January1981 and finished in 2000. It’s a Q200, took 19 + years and 4000 hours to first flight. First flown August 2000. 

Jim
N46JP - Q200

 

 


Re: Build times

Kevin Boddicker
 

Do we that bought a project, partially built, get to play?

TriQ on the gear when purchased. New nose gear, built new main wing replaced same, fixed many mistakes, MANY mistakes.
Mounted engine, designed electrical, rehabbed header take, fuel plumbing, firewall forward items, filled and sand for two years.
Paid to have it painted, and color sanded.
Bought project Aug 99, AW cert Oct 05, first flight March 10, 06.
Guessing at least 1000 hours.


Kevin Boddicker
TriQ 200 N7868B   538 hrs
Luana, IA.



On Oct 18, 2020, at 4:06 PM, Jim Patillo <Logistics_engineering@...> wrote:

This could be fun. Let’s take a quick survey! How long did your Quickie take to build from delivery of QAC materials. Which model do you have? How many years and man hours did it take?

Mine was started in January1981 and finished in 2000. It’s a Q200, took 19 + years and 4000 hours to first flight. First flown August 2000. 

Jim
N46JP - Q200

 


Re: Build times

Mike Dwyer
 

1.5 years.  Forget the hours, 1200? 1985 First flght.
Mike Q200, N3QP

On Sun, Oct 18, 2020, 18:53 Jerry Marstall <jnmarstall@...> wrote:
16yrs, 5000hrs. First flew June 1997.  914 hrs.  Tri-Q200.  Once a Tri-Q.  Probably another 1000hrs work since 1997 ( engine swap, repaint, new interior, new glass panel.)

-------- Original message --------
From: Paul Fisher <rv7a.n18pf@...>
Date: 10/18/20 5:40 PM (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Build times

My Q-200 took seven years, three months, 22 days to build.  First flight was August 13th 1990.  I have no idea how many hours to build...  I didn't want to know.

Paul Fisher
Q-200 N17PF

On Sun, Oct 18, 2020, 16:06 Jim Patillo <Logistics_engineering@...> wrote:

This could be fun. Let’s take a quick survey! How long did your Quickie take to build from delivery of QAC materials. Which model do you have? How many years and man hours did it take?

Mine was started in January1981 and finished in 2000. It’s a Q200, took 19 + years and 4000 hours to first flight. First flown August 2000. 

Jim
N46JP - Q200

 

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