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Re: Q1 Bill of material - Alternative supplier and Technical Specification - Technical data sheet

Gabor Halasi <kishal63@...>
 

Huge! Many thanks Eugen!

I am about to start my q1 project, shop (garage) almost completed, tooling is missing. 

Regards,

Gabor
from Hungary

On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 8:19 PM Eugen Pilarski <interbus@...> wrote:
Dear Q-Experts,

please find the link to the files I create to upload alternative supplier and technical Specification/technical data sheet to fill the bill of material with more information during my investigation to build a Quickie. Please fell free to upload your sources and tech. Specs also.

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Best regards

Eugen


Q1 Bill of material - Alternative supplier and Technical Specification - Technical data sheet

Eugen Pilarski
 

Dear Q-Experts,

please find the link to the files I create to upload alternative supplier and technical Specification/technical data sheet to fill the bill of material with more information during my investigation to build a Quickie. Please fell free to upload your sources and tech. Specs also.

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Best regards

Eugen


Re: Electronic Ignition Install - No Spark from Coils

Martin Skiby
 

My apologies.  Yes sorry I should have started earlier in the conversation.

Carry on.  Interested to see the outcome.

Martin

 


On Nov 10, 2020, at 8:43 AM, Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser@...> wrote:


Martin,

I think you are missing the first update from this morning (it is the one you replied to).  Setting up per instructions and firing it up with the starter did not work.  The rocking of the prop back and forth was in response to the question of what Klaus recommended.  We tried both.

Corbin

On November 10, 2020 at 9:03 AM, Martin Skiby <mskiby@...> wrote:

Dude you are fighting yourself on this.  Set it up as the instructions show and fire it up.  Rocking the prop back and forth and trying to get a spark is frustrating you.  Try using the starter and see if it fires up and runs.  That is the only way to know.  You will wear yourself out trying to trigger a sensor that needs 500rpm or so to do just to see if you have a spark.  You will know right away if it starts.

MY opinion.


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Sent: Tuesday November 10 2020 4:40:02AM
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Electronic Ignition Install - No Spark from Coils

Hey Jim,

The lower RPM is actually the main reason I was installing this ignition system.  Klaus says it will add RPM but I think he must mean in cruise and not idle.

Klaus seemed to think we had installed everything correctly and that we didn't rock the prop fast enough.  We tried again and then used the starter and still couldn't get a spark.  I am going to reach out to him again today to see if I should try new magnet sensors.

Corbin

On November 9, 2020 at 11:02 PM, Jim Patillo <Logistics_engineering@...> wrote:

Corbin, you will not regret putting in Lightspeed electronic ignitions once you get them working. Hang in there, you’ll get it.
You’ll be able to idle at 450 rpm which is good for landings on shorter runways and can run faster higher up.

What’s Klaus offering in the way of help?

Jim
N46JP Q200

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From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser@...>
Sent: Monday, November 9, 2020 7:17:21 PM
To: main@q-list.groups.io <main@q-list.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Electronic Ignition Install - No Spark from Coils
 
Well, no luck tonight.  No spark rocking back and forth at #1 TDC, no luck rotating prop faster, and no luck having the starter have a go at it.  

At this point, I’m assuming the sensor(s) are bad.  Ugh.  Wishing I had never tried upgrading to electronic ignition at this point and ready to put the mags back on.

Corbin

On Nov 9, 2020, at 1:56 PM, Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser@...> wrote:

Follow up to keep records of information learned.  

Klaus' best guess is that we just need to rock the prop a bit faster.  He believes we have everything else correct.  We will try that tonight and, if no luck, might just let the starter give it a go in order to see if it can get a spark from the coil.  Leads are not connected, of course.

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Re: Electronic Ignition Install - No Spark from Coils

Corbin
 

Martin,

I think you are missing the first update from this morning (it is the one you replied to).  Setting up per instructions and firing it up with the starter did not work.  The rocking of the prop back and forth was in response to the question of what Klaus recommended.  We tried both.

Corbin

On November 10, 2020 at 9:03 AM, Martin Skiby <mskiby@...> wrote:

Dude you are fighting yourself on this.  Set it up as the instructions show and fire it up.  Rocking the prop back and forth and trying to get a spark is frustrating you.  Try using the starter and see if it fires up and runs.  That is the only way to know.  You will wear yourself out trying to trigger a sensor that needs 500rpm or so to do just to see if you have a spark.  You will know right away if it starts.

MY opinion.


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From: "Corbin via groups.io"
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Tuesday November 10 2020 4:40:02AM
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Electronic Ignition Install - No Spark from Coils

Hey Jim,

The lower RPM is actually the main reason I was installing this ignition system.  Klaus says it will add RPM but I think he must mean in cruise and not idle.

Klaus seemed to think we had installed everything correctly and that we didn't rock the prop fast enough.  We tried again and then used the starter and still couldn't get a spark.  I am going to reach out to him again today to see if I should try new magnet sensors.

Corbin

On November 9, 2020 at 11:02 PM, Jim Patillo <Logistics_engineering@...> wrote:

Corbin, you will not regret putting in Lightspeed electronic ignitions once you get them working. Hang in there, you’ll get it.
You’ll be able to idle at 450 rpm which is good for landings on shorter runways and can run faster higher up.

What’s Klaus offering in the way of help?

Jim
N46JP Q200

Sent from Outer Space

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser@...>
Sent: Monday, November 9, 2020 7:17:21 PM
To: main@q-list.groups.io <main@q-list.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Electronic Ignition Install - No Spark from Coils
 
Well, no luck tonight.  No spark rocking back and forth at #1 TDC, no luck rotating prop faster, and no luck having the starter have a go at it.  

At this point, I’m assuming the sensor(s) are bad.  Ugh.  Wishing I had never tried upgrading to electronic ignition at this point and ready to put the mags back on.

Corbin

On Nov 9, 2020, at 1:56 PM, Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser@...> wrote:

Follow up to keep records of information learned.  

Klaus' best guess is that we just need to rock the prop a bit faster.  He believes we have everything else correct.  We will try that tonight and, if no luck, might just let the starter give it a go in order to see if it can get a spark from the coil.  Leads are not connected, of course.

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Re: Electronic Ignition Install - No Spark from Coils

Martin Skiby
 

Dude you are fighting yourself on this.  Set it up as the instructions show and fire it up.  Rocking the prop back and forth and trying to get a spark is frustrating you.  Try using the starter and see if it fires up and runs.  That is the only way to know.  You will wear yourself out trying to trigger a sensor that needs 500rpm or so to do just to see if you have a spark.  You will know right away if it starts.

MY opinion.

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From: "Corbin via groups.io"
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Tuesday November 10 2020 4:40:02AM
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Electronic Ignition Install - No Spark from Coils

Hey Jim,

The lower RPM is actually the main reason I was installing this ignition system.  Klaus says it will add RPM but I think he must mean in cruise and not idle.

Klaus seemed to think we had installed everything correctly and that we didn't rock the prop fast enough.  We tried again and then used the starter and still couldn't get a spark.  I am going to reach out to him again today to see if I should try new magnet sensors.

Corbin

On November 9, 2020 at 11:02 PM, Jim Patillo <Logistics_engineering@...> wrote:

Corbin, you will not regret putting in Lightspeed electronic ignitions once you get them working. Hang in there, you’ll get it.
You’ll be able to idle at 450 rpm which is good for landings on shorter runways and can run faster higher up.

What’s Klaus offering in the way of help?

Jim
N46JP Q200

Sent from Outer Space

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser@...>
Sent: Monday, November 9, 2020 7:17:21 PM
To: main@q-list.groups.io <main@q-list.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Electronic Ignition Install - No Spark from Coils
 
Well, no luck tonight.  No spark rocking back and forth at #1 TDC, no luck rotating prop faster, and no luck having the starter have a go at it.  

At this point, I’m assuming the sensor(s) are bad.  Ugh.  Wishing I had never tried upgrading to electronic ignition at this point and ready to put the mags back on.

Corbin

On Nov 9, 2020, at 1:56 PM, Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser@...> wrote:

Follow up to keep records of information learned.  

Klaus' best guess is that we just need to rock the prop a bit faster.  He believes we have everything else correct.  We will try that tonight and, if no luck, might just let the starter give it a go in order to see if it can get a spark from the coil.  Leads are not connected, of course.

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N33QR


Re: Electronic Ignition Install - No Spark from Coils

Martin Skiby
 

Just fire it up and see if it works!


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From: "Corbin via groups.io"
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Tuesday November 10 2020 4:40:02AM
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Electronic Ignition Install - No Spark from Coils

Hey Jim,

The lower RPM is actually the main reason I was installing this ignition system.  Klaus says it will add RPM but I think he must mean in cruise and not idle.

Klaus seemed to think we had installed everything correctly and that we didn't rock the prop fast enough.  We tried again and then used the starter and still couldn't get a spark.  I am going to reach out to him again today to see if I should try new magnet sensors.

Corbin

On November 9, 2020 at 11:02 PM, Jim Patillo <Logistics_engineering@...> wrote:

Corbin, you will not regret putting in Lightspeed electronic ignitions once you get them working. Hang in there, you’ll get it.
You’ll be able to idle at 450 rpm which is good for landings on shorter runways and can run faster higher up.

What’s Klaus offering in the way of help?

Jim
N46JP Q200

Sent from Outer Space

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser@...>
Sent: Monday, November 9, 2020 7:17:21 PM
To: main@q-list.groups.io <main@q-list.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Electronic Ignition Install - No Spark from Coils
 
Well, no luck tonight.  No spark rocking back and forth at #1 TDC, no luck rotating prop faster, and no luck having the starter have a go at it.  

At this point, I’m assuming the sensor(s) are bad.  Ugh.  Wishing I had never tried upgrading to electronic ignition at this point and ready to put the mags back on.

Corbin

On Nov 9, 2020, at 1:56 PM, Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser@...> wrote:

Follow up to keep records of information learned.  

Klaus' best guess is that we just need to rock the prop a bit faster.  He believes we have everything else correct.  We will try that tonight and, if no luck, might just let the starter give it a go in order to see if it can get a spark from the coil.  Leads are not connected, of course.

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Re: Electronic Ignition Install - No Spark from Coils

Bruce Crain
 

Also, the Electroair Electronic Ignition says don't power up the unit without the leads connected to the plugs as it can damage the unit!  Still apples to oranges.
Bruce


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From: "Bruce Crain" <jcrain2@...>
To: main@q-list.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Electronic Ignition Install - No Spark from Coils
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2020 16:14:35 -0600

The pickup for the Electroair needs 500 ohms to check “good”.  Ohm it out.  This may be apples to oranges though.  Different company.

Bruce

 

On Nov 9, 2020, at 11:06 AM, Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote:

A hall sensor measures presence of a magnetic field (or not). A simple magnetic sensor (coil) will see a “double” peak as the magnet passes. Not sure which type of sensor Klaus is using, but I suspect it is a hall sensor.

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill Allen
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2020 9:51 AM
To: main@q-list.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Electronic Ignition Install - No Spark from Coils

 

I just went through the same issue on my Cozy installation. Everything checked out but still no sparks. Eventually traced it to the mini-sensor not being correctly aligned to the trigger ring. Aligned both in distance from and vertical to it.

 

Question; can you get a spark by passing a magnet (South Pole) over the mini sensor?

 

 

Bill Allen

 

On Mon, 9 Nov 2020 at 17:33, Martin Skiby <mskiby@...> wrote:

That usually is a sign that the sensor is not picking up the trigger on the crank.  Check the spacing etc.  I have installed several of these in the past with 0 issues so it is probably something simple.

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From: "Corbin via groups.io"
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Sent: Monday November 9 2020 8:12:44AM
Subject: [Q-List] Electronic Ignition Install - No Spark from Coils

As we wait for Klaus to get back with us, I thought I would throw it out to this group.  As many know, I am installing a Lightspeed Plasma III electronic ignition system in my Q200.  Following the instructions, we have followed the steps and got to the point where we are rotating the prop to get the spark from the coils.  No spark so we are troubleshooting as best we can including reviewing the instructions for any missed steps.

Power from the battery to the circuit breakers is good and the signal coming back to the warning lights is good (if one coil fails a light comes on,  etc.).  However, we are not registering any power getting to the coils and have triple checked the wiring is connected to the ignition boxes going to the coils.

Could it be that the magnet sensor is not sending a signal back to the ignition boxes therefore no spark?  We wonder if there is a bad connection in one of the magnet sensors.  The other area I  thought it could be is that we are bypassing the keyed ignition for now.  My avionics guy assured me that it is not an area of concern since the way it is currently wired, it is not an open-loop (key in off position).  I still wonder though...

If anyone has any known common failure points please let me know.  We may try and go back out to the hangar this evening.

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Re: Electronic Ignition Install - No Spark from Coils

Corbin
 

Correction:  It is the Mini Sensor and not the Hall Effect (not sure it matters but wanted to correct that bit of info I sent earlier).
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Re: Electronic Ignition Install - No Spark from Coils

Corbin
 

Hey Jim,

The lower RPM is actually the main reason I was installing this ignition system.  Klaus says it will add RPM but I think he must mean in cruise and not idle.

Klaus seemed to think we had installed everything correctly and that we didn't rock the prop fast enough.  We tried again and then used the starter and still couldn't get a spark.  I am going to reach out to him again today to see if I should try new magnet sensors.

Corbin

On November 9, 2020 at 11:02 PM, Jim Patillo <Logistics_engineering@...> wrote:

Corbin, you will not regret putting in Lightspeed electronic ignitions once you get them working. Hang in there, you’ll get it.
You’ll be able to idle at 450 rpm which is good for landings on shorter runways and can run faster higher up.

What’s Klaus offering in the way of help?

Jim
N46JP Q200

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From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser@...>
Sent: Monday, November 9, 2020 7:17:21 PM
To: main@q-list.groups.io <main@q-list.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Electronic Ignition Install - No Spark from Coils
 
Well, no luck tonight.  No spark rocking back and forth at #1 TDC, no luck rotating prop faster, and no luck having the starter have a go at it.  

At this point, I’m assuming the sensor(s) are bad.  Ugh.  Wishing I had never tried upgrading to electronic ignition at this point and ready to put the mags back on.

Corbin

On Nov 9, 2020, at 1:56 PM, Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser@...> wrote:

Follow up to keep records of information learned.  

Klaus' best guess is that we just need to rock the prop a bit faster.  He believes we have everything else correct.  We will try that tonight and, if no luck, might just let the starter give it a go in order to see if it can get a spark from the coil.  Leads are not connected, of course.

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Re: Electronic Ignition Install - No Spark from Coils

gbrighton@...
 

Terry,
           Glad u are happy with the SDS ... They have a good reputation ... Im currently installing one on a Subaru . Apparently the latest Version ' 5' will run Subaru Coils .. but the previous ''4' wont . I have the '4' .. and im waiting for a 'patch' to arrive from Canada .. and when wired in i should get adequate Spark .!
Then i have to establish the Timing Settings somehow .. and find Knock Threshold .. and and .. !!
Cheers,
Graham
 
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Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2020 3:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Electronic Ignition Install - No Spark from Coils

Electronic is nice and gives the option of adjusting timing in flight.  I upgraded to the SDS system and haven't looked back:  easier starting, better fuel economy, cleaner plugs, cheaper auto Iridiums, and adjustable timing.  Once setup it never needs adjusting.  Hopefully much longer life.  The downside...needs battery power.  I did keep one mag.

Terry

On 11/9/2020 7:17 PM, Corbin via groups.io wrote:
Well, no luck tonight.  No spark rocking back and forth at #1 TDC, no luck rotating prop faster, and no luck having the starter have a go at it.  

At this point, I’m assuming the sensor(s) are bad.  Ugh.  Wishing I had never tried upgrading to electronic ignition at this point and ready to put the mags back on.

Corbin

On Nov 9, 2020, at 1:56 PM, Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser@...> wrote:

Follow up to keep records of information learned.  

Klaus' best guess is that we just need to rock the prop a bit faster.  He believes we have everything else correct.  We will try that tonight and, if no luck, might just let the starter give it a go in order to see if it can get a spark from the coil.  Leads are not connected, of course.

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Re: Electronic Ignition Install - No Spark from Coils

Jim Patillo
 

Corbin, you will not regret putting in Lightspeed electronic ignitions once you get them working. Hang in there, you’ll get it.
You’ll be able to idle at 450 rpm which is good for landings on shorter runways and can run faster higher up.

What’s Klaus offering in the way of help?

Jim
N46JP Q200

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From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser@...>
Sent: Monday, November 9, 2020 7:17:21 PM
To: main@q-list.groups.io <main@q-list.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Electronic Ignition Install - No Spark from Coils
 
Well, no luck tonight.  No spark rocking back and forth at #1 TDC, no luck rotating prop faster, and no luck having the starter have a go at it.  

At this point, I’m assuming the sensor(s) are bad.  Ugh.  Wishing I had never tried upgrading to electronic ignition at this point and ready to put the mags back on.

Corbin

On Nov 9, 2020, at 1:56 PM, Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser@...> wrote:

Follow up to keep records of information learned.  

Klaus' best guess is that we just need to rock the prop a bit faster.  He believes we have everything else correct.  We will try that tonight and, if no luck, might just let the starter give it a go in order to see if it can get a spark from the coil.  Leads are not connected, of course.

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Re: Electronic Ignition Install - No Spark from Coils

Terry Adams
 

Electronic is nice and gives the option of adjusting timing in flight.  I upgraded to the SDS system and haven't looked back:  easier starting, better fuel economy, cleaner plugs, cheaper auto Iridiums, and adjustable timing.  Once setup it never needs adjusting.  Hopefully much longer life.  The downside...needs battery power.  I did keep one mag.

Terry

On 11/9/2020 7:17 PM, Corbin via groups.io wrote:
Well, no luck tonight.  No spark rocking back and forth at #1 TDC, no luck rotating prop faster, and no luck having the starter have a go at it.  

At this point, I’m assuming the sensor(s) are bad.  Ugh.  Wishing I had never tried upgrading to electronic ignition at this point and ready to put the mags back on.

Corbin

On Nov 9, 2020, at 1:56 PM, Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser@...> wrote:

Follow up to keep records of information learned.  

Klaus' best guess is that we just need to rock the prop a bit faster.  He believes we have everything else correct.  We will try that tonight and, if no luck, might just let the starter give it a go in order to see if it can get a spark from the coil.  Leads are not connected, of course.

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Re: Electronic Ignition Install - No Spark from Coils

Jay Scheevel
 

I ended up using a hall sensor for my tach input. While testing I hooked an LED up in parallel so I would know that it was working properly. Might give that a try so you can narrow down the problem and know if it is the sensor or something else.

Cheers,
Jay

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"Corbin via groups.io" <c_geiser@...> wrote:

Well, no luck tonight.  No spark rocking back and forth at #1 TDC, no luck rotating prop faster, and no luck having the starter have a go at it.  

At this point, I’m assuming the sensor(s) are bad.  Ugh.  Wishing I had never tried upgrading to electronic ignition at this point and ready to put the mags back on.

Corbin

On Nov 9, 2020, at 1:56 PM, Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser@...> wrote:

Follow up to keep records of information learned.  

Klaus' best guess is that we just need to rock the prop a bit faster.  He believes we have everything else correct.  We will try that tonight and, if no luck, might just let the starter give it a go in order to see if it can get a spark from the coil.  Leads are not connected, of course.

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N33QR


Re: Electronic Ignition Install - No Spark from Coils

Corbin
 

Well, no luck tonight.  No spark rocking back and forth at #1 TDC, no luck rotating prop faster, and no luck having the starter have a go at it.  

At this point, I’m assuming the sensor(s) are bad.  Ugh.  Wishing I had never tried upgrading to electronic ignition at this point and ready to put the mags back on.

Corbin

On Nov 9, 2020, at 1:56 PM, Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser@...> wrote:

Follow up to keep records of information learned.  

Klaus' best guess is that we just need to rock the prop a bit faster.  He believes we have everything else correct.  We will try that tonight and, if no luck, might just let the starter give it a go in order to see if it can get a spark from the coil.  Leads are not connected, of course.

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Re: Electronic Ignition Install - No Spark from Coils

Michael
 



Couldn't help it! :-D *ducks through the door*
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Re: Jabiru Q2 on Barnstormers

Michael
 

I'm at least glad that people like Corbin and Matt have embraced the "Quirky" lifestyle. Makes me sad to see high time Qs like this one passing through a growing trail of new owners unflown...
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#2827 (still thinking about planning on visualizing how to finish building)


Re: Coughlin Brake Mount Drawings

Michael
 

HOLY SPUMONI, BATMAN! Don Coughlin was a freakin' genius!

Once assembled, this new version fits inside the mounts I currently have. Since the mounting hardware is identical, the difference in weight will be between the wood becoming aluminum and everything else shown in the other version (and those slides are 3/8 stainless steel). There appears to be an error in the .375 diameter call out for the "Outside Bracket" (no idea why though) so I'm glad I committed to a mock-up first. I created a new photo album with the results to save everyone's bandwidth: Coughlin Brakes for #2827

Also included are some pictures of the unfinished foam edge I mentioned earlier that I will need help tackling next. Part of my concern in how to proceed is that some of the edge looks like the wood from LG9...

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#2827 (still thinking about planning on visualizing how to finish building)


Re: Jabiru Q2 on Barnstormers

Jay Scheevel
 

The ad didn't have any photos or an n number listed, but based on the description, I am pretty sure it is Paul's plane.

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"John Hoxie via groups.io" <hoxdesigns@...> wrote:

Paul Spackman's N # is/ was N131PS.


On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 3:43 PM, Jay Scheevel
<jay@...> wrote:

I think this is Paul Spackman’s airplane. He sold it last year to a guy in Arizona. I don’t think that it has flown since he took it back there.

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2020 1:50 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: [Q-List] Jabiru Q2 on Barnstormers

 

Just saw this ad posted and came up empty trying to search the owner's name on the Q-List and quickheads. Looks like we can chalk another one up to the "successfully flying behind a Jabiru" crowd:

https://barnstormers.com/classified-1556436-Q-2-Quckie.html?catid=18948
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#2827 (still thinking about planning on visualizing how to finish building)


Re: Jabiru Q2 on Barnstormers

John Hoxie
 

Paul Spackman's N # is/ was N131PS.


On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 3:43 PM, Jay Scheevel
<jay@...> wrote:

I think this is Paul Spackman’s airplane. He sold it last year to a guy in Arizona. I don’t think that it has flown since he took it back there.

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2020 1:50 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: [Q-List] Jabiru Q2 on Barnstormers

 

Just saw this ad posted and came up empty trying to search the owner's name on the Q-List and quickheads. Looks like we can chalk another one up to the "successfully flying behind a Jabiru" crowd:

https://barnstormers.com/classified-1556436-Q-2-Quckie.html?catid=18948
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#2827 (still thinking about planning on visualizing how to finish building)


Re: Jabiru Q2 on Barnstormers

Jay Scheevel
 

I think this is Paul Spackman’s airplane. He sold it last year to a guy in Arizona. I don’t think that it has flown since he took it back there.

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2020 1:50 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: [Q-List] Jabiru Q2 on Barnstormers

 

Just saw this ad posted and came up empty trying to search the owner's name on the Q-List and quickheads. Looks like we can chalk another one up to the "successfully flying behind a Jabiru" crowd:

https://barnstormers.com/classified-1556436-Q-2-Quckie.html?catid=18948
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-MD
#2827 (still thinking about planning on visualizing how to finish building)

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