Re: Success with LSE Install
Funny you mention coming to see you guys. I was thinking the same thing on the drive out to the hangar today. Jason could do my conditional!
Corbin Ge!ser
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On November 17, 2020 at 1:11 PM, Martin Skiby <mskiby@...> wrote: Wow, Well OK that is good to know. I wonder why he has two, but OK, Glad it worked out and enjoy the lower fuel burn and better performance as well!!!
Come out and see us sometime!!
----------------------------------------- From: "Corbin via groups.io" To: main@Q-List.groups.ioCc: Sent: Tuesday November 17 2020 10:58:57AM Subject: Re: [Q-List] Success with LSE Install You guys were right....the tach was still on 1.0 instead of 2.0 and I am now idling at 1250 so the math works out perfect. I will adjust idle here in a few minutes and then will need to start troubleshooting why one side is running very rough during the mag check. I have checked to make sure all wires are secure on the plugs and will pull the plugs to double-check gap after it cools down. Martin - turns out Klaus sent the wrong brackets and holes drilled wrong. No spark at all if installed aligned with the markings on the magnet plate. We modified the holes and are still using the wrong bracket. Just need to make certain the sensors are secure in modified holes before I take to the skies. Also looking into new brackets to replace these. -- Corbin N33QR
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Re: Success with LSE Install
Wow, Well OK that is good to know. I wonder why he has two, but OK, Glad it worked out and enjoy the lower fuel burn and better performance as well!!!
Come out and see us sometime!! ----------------------------------------- From: "Corbin via groups.io" To: main@Q-List.groups.io Cc: Sent: Tuesday November 17 2020 10:58:57AM Subject: Re: [Q-List] Success with LSE Install You guys were right....the tach was still on 1.0 instead of 2.0 and I am now idling at 1250 so the math works out perfect. I will adjust idle here in a few minutes and then will need to start troubleshooting why one side is running very rough during the mag check. I have checked to make sure all wires are secure on the plugs and will pull the plugs to double-check gap after it cools down. Martin - turns out Klaus sent the wrong brackets and holes drilled wrong. No spark at all if installed aligned with the markings on the magnet plate. We modified the holes and are still using the wrong bracket. Just need to make certain the sensors are secure in modified holes before I take to the skies. Also looking into new brackets to replace these. -- Corbin N33QR
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Re: Success with LSE Install
You guys were right....the tach was still on 1.0 instead of 2.0 and I am now idling at 1250 so the math works out perfect. I will adjust idle here in a few minutes and then will need to start troubleshooting why one side is running very rough during the mag check. I have checked to make sure all wires are secure on the plugs and will pull the plugs to double-check gap after it cools down.
Martin - turns out Klaus sent the wrong brackets and holes drilled wrong. No spark at all if installed aligned with the markings on the magnet plate. We modified the holes and are still using the wrong bracket. Just need to make certain the sensors are secure in modified holes before I take to the skies. Also looking into new brackets to replace these. --
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Re: Success with LSE Install
Sorry if I missed the source of the issues. Corbin, Glad it worked out and would be interested to know what you found to be the issue. On the tach, if you have it on the ignition make sure it is set to read one or two revs per firing. I just had that happen on my new pontoon boat as they has it set wrong.
Glad you got her going and you will LOVE having the electronic ignition.. ----------------------------------------- From: "Corbin via groups.io" To: "main@Q-List.groups.io Group Moderators" Cc: Sent: Monday November 16 2020 9:07:41PM Subject: [Q-List] Success with LSE Install Just a quick video to share that I finally had success with the Lightspeed electronic ignition install.
Sure runs SMOOTH. RPMs were high so I’m hoping that’s just an adjustment on the throttle body.
Very glad to have the engine running again.
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Re: Success with LSE Install
Your ignition module is providing 2 pulses per revolution (see page 43 of Plasma II/III installation manual). You would need to set the tach display for that. Probably it has been set by default to 1/rev in which case it is reading double. Your 2500 RPM is really 1250. And then you will have it.
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From: main@Q-List.groups.io [mailto:main@Q-List.groups.io] On Behalf Of Corbin via groups.io Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 8:59 AM To: main@Q-List.groups.io Subject: Re: [Q-List] Success with LSE Install The tach was reading 2500 which is more than my RPM at rotation. It felt closer to 1000 RPM. My handheld tach couldn't read the reflective tape so it could be it was just too dark last night. I will get better data today hopefully. I will also read the tach manual again to make sure the settings are right. Glad you mentioned that. On November 17, 2020 at 8:53 AM, Rick Hole <r.hole@...> wrote:
Can you tell US how mucho higher? If for example it reads at 1.5x 2x etc it may be a setting on your tach display. On Tue, Nov 17, 2020, 12:56 AM Murry Rozansky <MIRCO@...> wrote: RPM at idle or full throttle?
-----Original Message----- >From: "Corbin via groups.io" <c_geiser=icloud.com@groups.io> >Sent: Nov 16, 2020 9:07 PM >To: "main@Q-List.groups.io Group Moderators" <main@q-list.groups.io> >Subject: [Q-List] Success with LSE Install > >Just a quick video to share that I finally had success with the Lightspeed electronic ignition install. > >Sure runs SMOOTH. RPMs were high so I’m hoping that’s just an adjustment on the throttle body. > >Very glad to have the engine running again. > > > >Corbin > >-- >Corbin >N33QR > > > > >
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Re: Success with LSE Install
Remember your LSE fires each coil twice as often as your mag. It is actually firing each plug on the exhaust stroke in addition to the compression stroke. I’m sure you knew that but it’s easy to overlook when programming your tach. Good luck.
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On Nov 17, 2020, at 10:24, Rick Hole <r.hole@...> wrote:
The tach display will have settings for various number of pulses per rev. When you get the right setting your RPM will be correct. It will never be just a bit off. Good luck. You are almost there!
The tach was reading 2500 which is more than my RPM at rotation. It felt closer to 1000 RPM. My handheld tach couldn't read the reflective tape so it could be it was just too dark last night. I will get better data today hopefully.
I will also read the tach manual again to make sure the settings are right. Glad you mentioned that.
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On November 17, 2020 at 8:53 AM, Rick Hole < r.hole@...> wrote:
Can you tell US how mucho higher? If for example it reads at 1.5x 2x etc it may be a setting on your tach display.
On Tue, Nov 17, 2020, 12:56 AM Murry Rozansky < MIRCO@...> wrote:
RPM at idle or full throttle?
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Re: Success with LSE Install
The tach display will have settings for various number of pulses per rev. When you get the right setting your RPM will be correct. It will never be just a bit off. Good luck. You are almost there!
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The tach was reading 2500 which is more than my RPM at rotation. It felt closer to 1000 RPM. My handheld tach couldn't read the reflective tape so it could be it was just too dark last night. I will get better data today hopefully. I will also read the tach manual again to make sure the settings are right. Glad you mentioned that.
Corbin Ge!ser
On November 17, 2020 at 8:53 AM, Rick Hole < r.hole@...> wrote: Can you tell US how mucho higher? If for example it reads at 1.5x 2x etc it may be a setting on your tach display. On Tue, Nov 17, 2020, 12:56 AM Murry Rozansky < MIRCO@...> wrote: RPM at idle or full throttle? -----Original Message----- >From: "Corbin via groups.io" <c_geiser=icloud.com@groups.io> >Sent: Nov 16, 2020 9:07 PM >To: "main@Q-List.groups.io Group Moderators" <main@q-list.groups.io> >Subject: [Q-List] Success with LSE Install > >Just a quick video to share that I finally had success with the Lightspeed electronic ignition install. > >Sure runs SMOOTH. RPMs were high so I’m hoping that’s just an adjustment on the throttle body. > >Very glad to have the engine running again. > > > >Corbin > >-- >Corbin >N33QR > > > > >
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Jay Scheevel
Hi Richard, Did not know you also had a Viggen project. That is unique! I am using Dynon servos and autopilot. So far, so good. Cheers, Jay
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From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Thomson Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 2:33 AM To: main@Q-List.groups.io Subject: Re: [Q-List] Flight report Thanks Jay, I will look forward to seeing them. What servos are you using ? We have been on lockdown for 2 weeks so not done anything on the TriQ, but have been continuing to build the twin fins for the Viggen, that has been hard work as the plans are various scales so you have to play with sizing all the time to get it right. Will swap you some pics when they are done. Br Rich T. On 16/11/2020 16:51, Jay Scheevel wrote: Hi Richard, Oddly enough and quite out of character, I did not take any pictures of the install. I only took pictures of the lables, so that I could register warranty on them. I will take some pics next time I am out at the hangar, and post those for anyone who is interested. They seem to be working out quite well. Cheers, Jay Pleased to hear you are having fun Jay, seems no time ago it was your first flight. Have you put up any pictures of your servo install ? Br Rich T. On 15/11/2020 21:40, Jay Scheevel wrote: Hi All, Had not been up in my Q for a couple weeks, so I thought I would take advantage of a nice calm, cool, crystal-clear fall day to do a short local flight. I have recently finished the final paint on my wheel fairings, so it is nice to have the airframe “finished”. Although it is a homebuilt, so I guess you are never really finished, right Sammy? It was my first flight in a long time where the density altitude was less than the field altitude. DA was 4250 and field elevation is 4750 MSL. So I guess you could call it a “low altitude” shake out flight for me. The good thing about cooler temperatures (5 degrees C at 1000’ AGL) is that it allows me to close up my radiator air exit doors and reduce drag. That adds some nice speed, so once I got up and level, I was showing over 170 mph TAS at about 70% power. Pulling it back to economy cruise (55% power), still gave me 160 mph TAS, which is really a nice speed at 5.5 gph! The scenery is tremendous out here any time of year, but the lower sun angles make it really pop. Had to take a little opportunity to take it in, so I flew along the west edge of our valley (Grand Junction, CO) and flew down over the cemetery where my dad is resting and made a tight circle and couple of wing wags to say hello. The plane really likes about a 35 degree turn angle. It kind of “locks in” at that angle. At my last condition inspection, I installed the autopilot servos, so I have been playing with the autopilot for a month or so. It is really nice to have, and having it hold altitude and heading is a real pleasure. That gives you a chance to play with the engine settings without holding the stick. And magically, you can just twist the heading bug to make a turn. I have not used it for a multileg trip yet, but if I get the opportunity in one of the colder months, it will be nice. Since it is starting to get chilly here, it is worth mentioning that I take my cabin heat air off the back side of the left and right radiators, so when I close up the exit air doors, I get extra pressure on the hot air source into the cabin. That is a nice feature of winter flying for me, since that is the time that you are flying with the radiator exits mostly closed up. My engine is really running smoothly and the rest of the plane is functioning as designed, so I am a happy homebuilder and now have 121 hours on the plane. Hoping to get out and see some of you in 2021, and maybe make that long dreamt of trip to OSH this year. For those of you in Canada, hope you had a nice Thanksgiving, for those of you in the US, Happy Thanksgiving, 11 days from now, and for everyone else, I hope you have a nice November 26th! Cheers, Jay Scheevel, Tri-Q2 N8WQ, 121 hours.
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Re: Success with LSE Install
The tach was reading 2500 which is more than my RPM at rotation. It felt closer to 1000 RPM. My handheld tach couldn't read the reflective tape so it could be it was just too dark last night. I will get better data today hopefully. I will also read the tach manual again to make sure the settings are right. Glad you mentioned that.
Corbin Ge!ser
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On November 17, 2020 at 8:53 AM, Rick Hole <r.hole@...> wrote: Can you tell US how mucho higher? If for example it reads at 1.5x 2x etc it may be a setting on your tach display. On Tue, Nov 17, 2020, 12:56 AM Murry Rozansky < MIRCO@...> wrote: RPM at idle or full throttle? -----Original Message----- >From: "Corbin via groups.io" <c_geiser=icloud.com@groups.io> >Sent: Nov 16, 2020 9:07 PM >To: "main@Q-List.groups.io Group Moderators" <main@q-list.groups.io> >Subject: [Q-List] Success with LSE Install > >Just a quick video to share that I finally had success with the Lightspeed electronic ignition install. > >Sure runs SMOOTH. RPMs were high so I’m hoping that’s just an adjustment on the throttle body. > >Very glad to have the engine running again. > > > >Corbin > >-- >Corbin >N33QR > > > > >
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Can you tell US how mucho higher? If for example it reads at 1.5x 2x etc it may be a setting on your tach display.
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On Tue, Nov 17, 2020, 12:56 AM Murry Rozansky < MIRCO@...> wrote: RPM at idle or full throttle?
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>Just a quick video to share that I finally had success with the Lightspeed electronic ignition install.
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Re: Success with LSE Install
Not sure just yet. We just wanted to make sure it would fire up and only tested the MP drop as well as for EMI (have some, unfortunately). The idle is definitely high so in need of adjustment. We were chilly and tired from being out there late last night.
Today, I am going back out there to let it run and charge up the battery some more. I would like to adjust the throttle body for idle as well. If so, then I would also like to tie down the tail and do a full RPM static test.
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Re: Bruce Crain's Q-Tour is now on YouTube.
#Q-Tour

Richard Thomson
Thanks Sam, Bruce and Joanne,
First time I have missed the talk, so glad you post the video to
see what I missed.
It is an interesting talk, will be watching that again to take in
your set up and give me ideas.
Stay safe, Fly safe.
Rich T.
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Here is Bruce & Joanne! https://youtu.be/oVKt3b14fMk
Just to simplify things, I included both parts into one video.
The Q&A session, Part II, starts at 31:45.
Thanks to Bruce & Honey Lamb and everyone who joined the Zoom
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Richard Thomson
Thanks Jay, I will look forward to seeing them. What servos are
you using ?
We have been on lockdown for 2 weeks so not done anything on the
TriQ, but have been continuing to build the twin fins for the
Viggen, that has been hard work as the plans are various scales so
you have to play with sizing all the time to get it right. Will
swap you some pics when they are done.
Br
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Hi Richard,
Oddly enough and quite out of character, I
did not take any pictures of the install. I only took pictures
of the lables, so that I could register warranty on them. I
will take some pics next time I am out at the hangar, and post
those for anyone who is interested. They seem to be working
out quite well.
Cheers,
Jay
Pleased to hear you are having fun Jay, seems no time ago it
was your first flight.
Have you put up any pictures of your servo install ?
Br
Rich T.
On 15/11/2020 21:40, Jay Scheevel wrote:
Hi All,
Had not been up in my Q for a couple
weeks, so I thought I would take advantage of a nice calm,
cool, crystal-clear fall day to do a short local flight. I
have recently finished the final paint on my wheel fairings,
so it is nice to have the airframe “finished”. Although it
is a homebuilt, so I guess you are never really finished,
right Sammy?
It was my first flight in a long time
where the density altitude was less than the field altitude.
DA was 4250 and field elevation is 4750 MSL. So I guess you
could call it a “low altitude” shake out flight for me. The
good thing about cooler temperatures (5 degrees C at 1000’
AGL) is that it allows me to close up my radiator air exit
doors and reduce drag. That adds some nice speed, so once I
got up and level, I was showing over 170 mph TAS at about
70% power. Pulling it back to economy cruise (55% power),
still gave me 160 mph TAS, which is really a nice speed at
5.5 gph! The scenery is tremendous out here any time of
year, but the lower sun angles make it really pop. Had to
take a little opportunity to take it in, so I flew along the
west edge of our valley (Grand Junction, CO) and flew down
over the cemetery where my dad is resting and made a tight
circle and couple of wing wags to say hello. The plane
really likes about a 35 degree turn angle. It kind of “locks
in” at that angle.
At my last condition inspection, I
installed the autopilot servos, so I have been playing with
the autopilot for a month or so. It is really nice to have,
and having it hold altitude and heading is a real pleasure.
That gives you a chance to play with the engine settings
without holding the stick. And magically, you can just twist
the heading bug to make a turn. I have not used it for a
multileg trip yet, but if I get the opportunity in one of
the colder months, it will be nice.
Since it is starting to get chilly here,
it is worth mentioning that I take my cabin heat air off the
back side of the left and right radiators, so when I close
up the exit air doors, I get extra pressure on the hot air
source into the cabin. That is a nice feature of winter
flying for me, since that is the time that you are flying
with the radiator exits mostly closed up.
My engine is really running smoothly and
the rest of the plane is functioning as designed, so I am a
happy homebuilder and now have 121 hours on the plane.
Hoping to get out and see some of you in 2021, and maybe
make that long dreamt of trip to OSH this year.
For those of you in Canada, hope you had
a nice Thanksgiving, for those of you in the US, Happy
Thanksgiving, 11 days from now, and for everyone else, I
hope you have a nice November 26th!
Cheers,
Jay Scheevel, Tri-Q2 N8WQ, 121 hours.
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Re: Success with LSE Install
RPM at idle or full throttle?
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-----Original Message----- From: "Corbin via groups.io" <c_geiser@...> Sent: Nov 16, 2020 9:07 PM To: "main@Q-List.groups.io Group Moderators" <main@q-list.groups.io> Subject: [Q-List] Success with LSE Install
Just a quick video to share that I finally had success with the Lightspeed electronic ignition install.
Sure runs SMOOTH. RPMs were high so I’m hoping that’s just an adjustment on the throttle body.
Very glad to have the engine running again.
Corbin
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Just a quick video to share that I finally had success with the Lightspeed electronic ignition install.
Sure runs SMOOTH. RPMs were high so I’m hoping that’s just an adjustment on the throttle body.
Very glad to have the engine running again.
Corbin
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Re: Bruce Crain's Q-Tour is now on YouTube.
#Q-Tour
I'm so bummed out I had to work Saturday. I wanted to participate.
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Ram Air Vent Tube and Pitot Tube Cover
Can anyone point me to some covers that fit our little pitot tube and fuel vent tubes?
Bruce - I just watched the Zoom and if you remember the size and source for the one you had on top for your ram vent tube please let me know.
Thanks,
Corbin Ge!ser
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Jay Scheevel
Hi Richard, Oddly enough and quite out of character, I did not take any pictures of the install. I only took pictures of the lables, so that I could register warranty on them. I will take some pics next time I am out at the hangar, and post those for anyone who is interested. They seem to be working out quite well. Cheers, Jay
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From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Thomson Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:30 AM To: main@Q-List.groups.io Subject: Re: [Q-List] Flight report Pleased to hear you are having fun Jay, seems no time ago it was your first flight. Have you put up any pictures of your servo install ? Br Rich T. On 15/11/2020 21:40, Jay Scheevel wrote: Hi All, Had not been up in my Q for a couple weeks, so I thought I would take advantage of a nice calm, cool, crystal-clear fall day to do a short local flight. I have recently finished the final paint on my wheel fairings, so it is nice to have the airframe “finished”. Although it is a homebuilt, so I guess you are never really finished, right Sammy? It was my first flight in a long time where the density altitude was less than the field altitude. DA was 4250 and field elevation is 4750 MSL. So I guess you could call it a “low altitude” shake out flight for me. The good thing about cooler temperatures (5 degrees C at 1000’ AGL) is that it allows me to close up my radiator air exit doors and reduce drag. That adds some nice speed, so once I got up and level, I was showing over 170 mph TAS at about 70% power. Pulling it back to economy cruise (55% power), still gave me 160 mph TAS, which is really a nice speed at 5.5 gph! The scenery is tremendous out here any time of year, but the lower sun angles make it really pop. Had to take a little opportunity to take it in, so I flew along the west edge of our valley (Grand Junction, CO) and flew down over the cemetery where my dad is resting and made a tight circle and couple of wing wags to say hello. The plane really likes about a 35 degree turn angle. It kind of “locks in” at that angle. At my last condition inspection, I installed the autopilot servos, so I have been playing with the autopilot for a month or so. It is really nice to have, and having it hold altitude and heading is a real pleasure. That gives you a chance to play with the engine settings without holding the stick. And magically, you can just twist the heading bug to make a turn. I have not used it for a multileg trip yet, but if I get the opportunity in one of the colder months, it will be nice. Since it is starting to get chilly here, it is worth mentioning that I take my cabin heat air off the back side of the left and right radiators, so when I close up the exit air doors, I get extra pressure on the hot air source into the cabin. That is a nice feature of winter flying for me, since that is the time that you are flying with the radiator exits mostly closed up. My engine is really running smoothly and the rest of the plane is functioning as designed, so I am a happy homebuilder and now have 121 hours on the plane. Hoping to get out and see some of you in 2021, and maybe make that long dreamt of trip to OSH this year. For those of you in Canada, hope you had a nice Thanksgiving, for those of you in the US, Happy Thanksgiving, 11 days from now, and for everyone else, I hope you have a nice November 26th! Cheers, Jay Scheevel, Tri-Q2 N8WQ, 121 hours.
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#Q-Tour

Sam Hoskins
Here is Bruce & Joanne! https://youtu.be/oVKt3b14fMkJust to simplify things, I included both parts into one video. The Q&A session, Part II, starts at 31:45. Thanks to Bruce & Honey Lamb and everyone who joined the Zoom meeting.
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Re: Electronic Ignition Install - No Spark from Coils
Thanks Leif....very helpful! Corbin
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On Nov 15, 2020, at 10:24 PM, Leif Johnson <jetdude@...> wrote:
Corbin.
After simply filing the holes to move the sensor out and up I filled the gap in the enlongated holes with hard gasket maker, then torqued it solid with slightly oversized washers and locking nuts. It needs to be held in place as it’s tightened of corse.
I found the sensor to be much more sensitive to radial (up and down) positioning than gap distance to the disk. That dimension has quite a bit of slop with the crank fore/aft movement anyway. It has operated well with no issues for about 60 hours now. I was
surprised at how much of the case needed removed to make that bracket sit flat and flush with the case split line. I fly the hell out of my EZ and will do the same with my Q. Hope that helps.
Leif.
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My LSE installation had a very different setup, it had circuit board mounted to the front of the crankcase,, so I don't really know what I'm talking about here. But, it does look like your mounting block is not parallel to the rotor. I don't
know if that's a factor or not.
Sam
....And here is a photo of where it needs to be installed. I am still going to test to see if the DC mini sensor needs to go a tad higher to be in the ideal position for the magnet.
In the first one, you can see how the new revised location of the sensor does not match the horizontal lines (going against the install manual). In fact, they are way off (see earlier pic above). This location gets a consistent spark every rotation. If the
manual is followed and the lines match up, but no spark of course. In the second pic, I have rotated the magnet plate so you can see where the little "dot" magnet passes by the sensor. It needs to pass by in this area or a tad lower. The original bracket
and holes had it passing at the very top of the sensor which is really far off from being read.
Again, it could be the sensor could come up a little higher so still adjusting before getting new brackets or welding of current holes done.
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