Dynon AP install
Hi Richard,
Here are the pictures of the Dynon auto pilot servos as installed. The pitch servo looks much more crowded than it really is because of the camera angle, which shows the rudder cable, flexible brake lines, fuel lines, wiring, and elevator trim mechanism, which are all mounted below the oversized header. For the servo, I built a right-angle mount bracket out of 5-BID with a radiused flox corner, then mounted it to the canard by bonding some studs to the wing and using nuts and washers to hold the angle bracket down. I put a couple stiff thick silicone bead strips under the end of the servo to keep it from flexing and vibrating on the mount.
The roll servo is mounted through the center pillar of the FS 94 bulkhead. The servo is mounted flush with the forward face of the pillar. I countersunk (and reinforced with glass) two of the mount screws through the pillar, and I added two 4-BID “tabs” sticking out to the right of the pillar to accommodate the other two mount screws. Dynon sells a pushrod kit that you can custom size for the servos to keep the travel angle within the specified angle range. I used the standard SV32 servos on both elevator and roll.
Glad you asked me to take these pictures, because I just noticed that I did not tighten up the jam nut on the lower end of the roll servo pushrod!
Cheers,
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Re: Success with LSE Install
Martin Skiby
You will be very happy with the setup! Enjoy.
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Martin
On Nov 21, 2020, at 7:14 AM, Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser@...> wrote:
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Re: Success with LSE Install
Murry has asked about idle and full-throttle RPM's so I thought I would update again since it is a quiet morning.
I am still adjusting idle but, so far, down as low as 690rpm it seemed to find a happy place. The mixture has to be dialed in just right down low; too lean or too rich and it will die. I could get it down around 550rpm once the engine was warmed up a bit but, again, the mixture was very sensitive and the engine would die if moved a little leaner or a little richer. So more adjusting is needed. I haven't tied down the tail for a full-throttle test yet. It sure runs SMOOTH though. I decided to take off the brackets for the upper and lower DC mini sensors to have correct ones fabricated. I hope to get those back next week and then get them back installed and running again. Corbin -- Corbin N33QR
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Re: Groups.IO website renewal time for the Q-List
STOP!!!
Thanks everyone. We just made the $110, I appreciate your donations. If you missed your chance, you'll just have to wait till next year. Sam
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Sorry Sam, now I see your note about the size of donation.
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Corbin
On Nov 18, 2020, at 4:27 PM, Brian Larick <blarick@...> wrote:
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Re: Groups.IO website renewal time for the Q-List
Brian Larick
Sent Sam. Hopefully I did it correctly.
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On Nov 18, 2020, at 16:30, Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@...> wrote:
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Groups.IO website renewal time for the Q-List
Hello All.
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Re: Flight report
Richard Thomson
Yep, been on it since 1996, with holidays in between. As the TriQ is almost there the lockdown allowed more time to get those nasty little jobs done, and one by one knock em down. The fins have been a long road, but now in a final sub assembly form ready to fit and skin. Engine mount and firewall fitted ( plenty of space for Electronic ignition and the RDAC).😛 But still loads to do. Rich T.
On 17/11/2020 15:50, Jay Scheevel
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Re: Success with LSE Install
Rick Hole
It is quite pleasant to be of help. I have installed oodles of these and made all the mistakes in the first ones. Klaus is indeed a challenge and once in a while makes a human error but you will be happy with his product now debugged. You have an army of experience on this forum. Rick Hole
You guys were right....the tach was still on 1.0 instead of 2.0 and I am now idling at 1250 so the math works out perfect. I will adjust idle here in a few minutes and then will need to start troubleshooting why one side is running very rough during the mag check. I have checked to make sure all wires are secure on the plugs and will pull the plugs to double-check gap after it cools down.
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Re: Success with LSE Install
Fantastic Corbin! Hope we can cross paths someday soon!
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Re: Ram Air Vent Tube and Pitot Tube Cover
1/4” should get you fixed up with ram air. You can just use some Clark foam and make a filet behind the tubes to make them more aerodynamic and stiffen them for a solid mount.
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On Nov 16, 2020, at 3:39 PM, Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser@...> wrote:
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Re: Success with LSE Install
Martin Skiby
Well you would need to talk to him about that and schedule it, but I am sure he would not mind at all. He is very busy and I am very proud that so many people trust in him!
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He has found issues with several planes that had been overlooked. ----------------------------------------- From: "Corbin via groups.io"To: main@Q-List.groups.io Cc: Sent: Tuesday November 17 2020 11:15:12AM Subject: Re: [Q-List] Success with LSE Install Funny you mention coming to see you guys. I was thinking the same thing on the drive out to the hangar today. Jason could do my conditional! Corbin Ge!ser
On November 17, 2020 at 1:11 PM, Martin Skiby <mskiby@...> wrote:
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Re: Success with LSE Install
Funny you mention coming to see you guys. I was thinking the same thing on the drive out to the hangar today. Jason could do my conditional! Corbin Ge!ser
On November 17, 2020 at 1:11 PM, Martin Skiby <mskiby@...> wrote:
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Corbin N33QR
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Re: Success with LSE Install
Martin Skiby
Wow, Well OK that is good to know. I wonder why he has two, but OK,
Glad it worked out and enjoy the lower fuel burn and better performance as well!!! Come out and see us sometime!! ----------------------------------------- From: "Corbin via groups.io"To: main@Q-List.groups.io Cc: Sent: Tuesday November 17 2020 10:58:57AM Subject: Re: [Q-List] Success with LSE Install You guys were right....the tach was still on 1.0 instead of 2.0 and I am now idling at 1250 so the math works out perfect. I will adjust idle here in a few minutes and then will need to start troubleshooting why one side is running very rough during the mag check. I have checked to make sure all wires are secure on the plugs and will pull the plugs to double-check gap after it cools down. Martin - turns out Klaus sent the wrong brackets and holes drilled wrong. No spark at all if installed aligned with the markings on the magnet plate. We modified the holes and are still using the wrong bracket. Just need to make certain the sensors are secure in modified holes before I take to the skies. Also looking into new brackets to replace these. -- Corbin N33QR
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Re: Success with LSE Install
You guys were right....the tach was still on 1.0 instead of 2.0 and I am now idling at 1250 so the math works out perfect. I will adjust idle here in a few minutes and then will need to start troubleshooting why one side is running very rough during the mag check. I have checked to make sure all wires are secure on the plugs and will pull the plugs to double-check gap after it cools down.
Martin - turns out Klaus sent the wrong brackets and holes drilled wrong. No spark at all if installed aligned with the markings on the magnet plate. We modified the holes and are still using the wrong bracket. Just need to make certain the sensors are secure in modified holes before I take to the skies. Also looking into new brackets to replace these. -- Corbin N33QR
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Re: Success with LSE Install
Martin Skiby
Sorry if I missed the source of the issues. Corbin, Glad it worked out and would be interested to know what you found to be the issue. On the tach, if you have it on the ignition make sure it is set to read one or two revs per firing. I just had that happen on my new pontoon boat as they has it set wrong.
Glad you got her going and you will LOVE having the electronic ignition.. ----------------------------------------- From: "Corbin via groups.io"To: "main@Q-List.groups.io Group Moderators" Cc: Sent: Monday November 16 2020 9:07:41PM Subject: [Q-List] Success with LSE Install Just a quick video to share that I finally had success with the Lightspeed electronic ignition install. Sure runs SMOOTH. RPMs were high so I’m hoping that’s just an adjustment on the throttle body. Very glad to have the engine running again. Corbin -- Corbin N33QR
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Re: Success with LSE Install
Rick Hole
Your ignition module is providing 2 pulses per revolution (see page 43 of Plasma II/III installation manual). You would need to set the tach display for that. Probably it has been set by default to 1/rev in which case it is reading double. Your 2500 RPM is really 1250. And then you will have it.
Rick Hole
From: main@Q-List.groups.io [mailto:main@Q-List.groups.io] On Behalf Of Corbin via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 8:59 AM To: main@Q-List.groups.io Subject: Re: [Q-List] Success with LSE Install
The tach was reading 2500 which is more than my RPM at rotation. It felt closer to 1000 RPM. My handheld tach couldn't read the reflective tape so it could be it was just too dark last night. I will get better data today hopefully.
I will also read the tach manual again to make sure the settings are right. Glad you mentioned that.
Corbin Ge!ser
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Re: Success with LSE Install
Leif Johnson
Remember your LSE fires each coil twice as often as your mag. It is actually firing each plug on the exhaust stroke in addition to the compression stroke. I’m sure you knew that but it’s easy to overlook when programming your tach. Good luck.
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On Nov 17, 2020, at 10:24, Rick Hole <r.hole@...> wrote:
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Re: Success with LSE Install
Rick Hole
The tach display will have settings for various number of pulses per rev. When you get the right setting your RPM will be correct. It will never be just a bit off. Good luck. You are almost there!
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Re: Flight report
Hi Richard,
Did not know you also had a Viggen project. That is unique! I am using Dynon servos and autopilot. So far, so good.
Cheers, Jay
From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Thomson
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 2:33 AM To: main@Q-List.groups.io Subject: Re: [Q-List] Flight report
Thanks Jay, I will look forward to seeing them. What servos are you using ? We have been on lockdown for 2 weeks so not done anything on the TriQ, but have been continuing to build the twin fins for the Viggen, that has been hard work as the plans are various scales so you have to play with sizing all the time to get it right. Will swap you some pics when they are done. Br Rich T. On 16/11/2020 16:51, Jay Scheevel wrote:
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