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Re: Dynon AP install

Jay Scheevel
 

Hi Richard,

 

Yes the servo travel is affected by the reflexor, but the “brain” in the autopilot seems to figure that out, and I am not adjusting the reflexor too much when the AP is on anyway.

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Thomson
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 10:21 AM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Dynon AP install

 

Hi Jay

    Now I remember, a novel set up. So is the geometry of the servo affected by the relexor ?

    br

    Rich.T.

On 23/11/2020 15:14, Jay Scheevel wrote:

Hi Richard,

 

Yes it is very busy, but I have two removable side panels that allow me to get to everything!

 

You have your reflexor right. Mine is just one of my many mods. On the back side of the bulkhead, there is a phenolic pulley bolted onto the reflexor “donut”. It has a cable wrapped three times around that goes up to my control handle in front. The cable-based control can be handled with more finesse, has no play, and has a variable friction lock. The handle is like another stick on the left side that has the same pitch up, pitch down sense as the control stick on the right. Here is a picture so you can visualize the entire assembly.

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Thomson
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 7:30 AM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Dynon AP install

 

Thanks Jay,

Glad I have my uses.  I have just noticed that your reflex lever is behind your bulkhead. Is that a mod or have I got mine wrong ?

Looks pretty busy under your panel.

Br

Rich T.


Re: Success with LSE Install

Corbin
 

Fairly simple really.  We were able to show Klaus how the brackets do not fit and he admitted they aren't correct once he reviewed that information.  He never offered to send new ones and was never asked to afterward.  I chose to take it upon myself to make sure I have the right part and make new ones versus wait for new ones that likely wouldn't fit again.  
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N33QR


Re: Dynon AP install

Richard Thomson
 

Hi Jay

    Now I remember, a novel set up. So is the geometry of the servo affected by the relexor ?

    br

    Rich.T.

On 23/11/2020 15:14, Jay Scheevel wrote:

Hi Richard,

 

Yes it is very busy, but I have two removable side panels that allow me to get to everything!

 

You have your reflexor right. Mine is just one of my many mods. On the back side of the bulkhead, there is a phenolic pulley bolted onto the reflexor “donut”. It has a cable wrapped three times around that goes up to my control handle in front. The cable-based control can be handled with more finesse, has no play, and has a variable friction lock. The handle is like another stick on the left side that has the same pitch up, pitch down sense as the control stick on the right. Here is a picture so you can visualize the entire assembly.

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Thomson
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 7:30 AM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Dynon AP install

 

Thanks Jay,

Glad I have my uses.  I have just noticed that your reflex lever is behind your bulkhead. Is that a mod or have I got mine wrong ?

Looks pretty busy under your panel.

Br

Rich T.


Re: Success with LSE Install

Rik
 

I’m still a bit confused. 

Is klaus refusing to send you the correct mounting hardware?

it has been long enough for the postal pigeons to have delivered it from California to Texas. 

What if, something greater goes wrong? 


Re: Dynon AP install

Jay Scheevel
 

Hi Richard,

 

Yes it is very busy, but I have two removable side panels that allow me to get to everything!

 

You have your reflexor right. Mine is just one of my many mods. On the back side of the bulkhead, there is a phenolic pulley bolted onto the reflexor “donut”. It has a cable wrapped three times around that goes up to my control handle in front. The cable-based control can be handled with more finesse, has no play, and has a variable friction lock. The handle is like another stick on the left side that has the same pitch up, pitch down sense as the control stick on the right. Here is a picture so you can visualize the entire assembly.

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Thomson
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 7:30 AM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Dynon AP install

 

Thanks Jay,

Glad I have my uses.  I have just noticed that your reflex lever is behind your bulkhead. Is that a mod or have I got mine wrong ?

Looks pretty busy under your panel.

Br

Rich T.


Re: Dynon AP install

Richard Thomson
 

Thanks Jay,

Glad I have my uses.  I have just noticed that your reflex lever is behind your bulkhead. Is that a mod or have I got mine wrong ?

Looks pretty busy under your panel.

Br

Rich T.

On 21/11/2020 15:28, Jay Scheevel wrote:

Hi Richard,

 

Here are the pictures of the Dynon auto pilot servos as installed. The pitch servo looks much more crowded than it really is because of the camera angle, which shows the rudder cable, flexible brake lines, fuel lines, wiring, and elevator trim mechanism, which are all mounted below the oversized header. For the servo, I built a right-angle mount bracket out of 5-BID with a radiused flox corner, then mounted it to the canard by bonding some studs to the wing and using nuts and washers to hold the angle bracket down. I put a couple stiff thick silicone bead strips under the end of the servo to keep it from flexing and vibrating on the mount.

 

The roll servo is mounted  through the center pillar of the FS 94 bulkhead. The servo is mounted flush with the forward face of the pillar. I countersunk (and reinforced with glass) two of the mount screws through the pillar, and I added two 4-BID “tabs” sticking out to the right of the pillar to accommodate the other two mount screws. Dynon sells a pushrod kit that you can custom size for the servos to keep the travel angle within the specified angle range. I used the standard SV32 servos on both elevator and roll.

 

Glad you asked me to take these pictures, because I just noticed that I did not tighten up the jam nut on the lower end of the roll servo pushrod!

 

Cheers,
Jay

 


Q1 parts

kf4klp1ez@...
 

I am told that a gentleman named Leon McAtee had a full set of pieces-parts drawings for the  Q1. Anyone know how to contact him?


Re: Fit

Jay Scheevel
 

Looking good, Chris. Came up with a paint motif for your Cowl 😊

 

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From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dorothea Keats
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2020 2:23 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: [Q-List] Fit

 

 Still poking along on the Q200. Managed to remake a Q200 cowl to accept a 2.5 turbocharged Subaru. Ended up using a 13 inch spinner.

 

Doing the micro and West epoxi on all the flying surfaces and then I will attach the wing and canard.  Hopefully before Xmas.

 

Still having fun----------  Chris in Canada

 

 

 

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Re: Fit

Patrick Panzera
 

Great to hear!!!

Pat 

On Sat, Nov 21, 2020, 1:23 PM Dorothea Keats <dkeats@...> wrote:
  Still poking along on the Q200. Managed to remake a Q200 cowl to
accept a 2.5 turbocharged Subaru. Ended up using a 13 inch spinner.

Doing the micro and West epoxi on all the flying surfaces and then I
will attach the wing and canard.  Hopefully before Xmas.

Still having fun----------  Chris in Canada



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Fit

Chris Walterson
 

Still poking along on the Q200. Managed to remake a Q200 cowl to accept a 2.5 turbocharged Subaru. Ended up using a 13 inch spinner.

Doing the micro and West epoxi on all the flying surfaces and then I will attach the wing and canard.  Hopefully before Xmas.

Still having fun----------  Chris in Canada



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Re: Success with LSE Install

Robert Cringely
 

Paul was a great guy. I was working with him on wind turbines when he became ill. Alas, that project died with him...



On Sat, Nov 21, 2020 at 10:02 AM Jim Patillo <Logistics_engineering@...> wrote:
I second what Martin and others have said. You’re gonna love it.

I’ve been flying with Dual Plasma 3 ‘s for 1500 hours now,  having switched from Slick Mags. I didn’t like the idea of having to remove the engine every time the mags needed checking.

The Lightspeed’s have worked much better than expected but with Paul Lipps doing the engineering what else would you have expected. He was a really, really smart guy.

I checked idle again yesterday on both ignitions and I can still idle at 450 RPM and prop rotation is noticibly slow.

You’re making great progress Corbin.

Jim
N46JP Q200

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From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Martin Skiby <mskiby@...>
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2020 7:16:45 AM
To: main@q-list.groups.io <main@q-list.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Success with LSE Install
 
You will be very happy with the setup!   Enjoy.

Martin

 


On Nov 21, 2020, at 7:14 AM, Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:

Murry has asked about idle and full-throttle RPM's so I thought I would update again since it is a quiet morning.

I am still adjusting idle but, so far, down as low as 690rpm it seemed to find a happy place.  The mixture has to be dialed in just right down low; too lean or too rich and it will die.  I could get it down around 550rpm once the engine was warmed up a bit but, again, the mixture was very sensitive and the engine would die if moved a little leaner or a little richer.  So more adjusting is needed. 

I haven't tied down the tail for a full-throttle test yet.

It sure runs SMOOTH though.  I decided to take off the brackets for the upper and lower DC mini sensors to have correct ones fabricated.  I hope to get those back next week and then get them back installed and running again.  

Corbin
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N33QR


Re: Success with LSE Install

Jim Patillo
 

I second what Martin and others have said. You’re gonna love it.

I’ve been flying with Dual Plasma 3 ‘s for 1500 hours now,  having switched from Slick Mags. I didn’t like the idea of having to remove the engine every time the mags needed checking.

The Lightspeed’s have worked much better than expected but with Paul Lipps doing the engineering what else would you have expected. He was a really, really smart guy.

I checked idle again yesterday on both ignitions and I can still idle at 450 RPM and prop rotation is noticibly slow.

You’re making great progress Corbin.

Jim
N46JP Q200

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From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Martin Skiby <mskiby@...>
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2020 7:16:45 AM
To: main@q-list.groups.io <main@q-list.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Success with LSE Install
 
You will be very happy with the setup!   Enjoy.

Martin

 


On Nov 21, 2020, at 7:14 AM, Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser@...> wrote:

Murry has asked about idle and full-throttle RPM's so I thought I would update again since it is a quiet morning.

I am still adjusting idle but, so far, down as low as 690rpm it seemed to find a happy place.  The mixture has to be dialed in just right down low; too lean or too rich and it will die.  I could get it down around 550rpm once the engine was warmed up a bit but, again, the mixture was very sensitive and the engine would die if moved a little leaner or a little richer.  So more adjusting is needed. 

I haven't tied down the tail for a full-throttle test yet.

It sure runs SMOOTH though.  I decided to take off the brackets for the upper and lower DC mini sensors to have correct ones fabricated.  I hope to get those back next week and then get them back installed and running again.  

Corbin
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N33QR


Dynon AP install

Jay Scheevel
 

Hi Richard,

 

Here are the pictures of the Dynon auto pilot servos as installed. The pitch servo looks much more crowded than it really is because of the camera angle, which shows the rudder cable, flexible brake lines, fuel lines, wiring, and elevator trim mechanism, which are all mounted below the oversized header. For the servo, I built a right-angle mount bracket out of 5-BID with a radiused flox corner, then mounted it to the canard by bonding some studs to the wing and using nuts and washers to hold the angle bracket down. I put a couple stiff thick silicone bead strips under the end of the servo to keep it from flexing and vibrating on the mount.

 

The roll servo is mounted  through the center pillar of the FS 94 bulkhead. The servo is mounted flush with the forward face of the pillar. I countersunk (and reinforced with glass) two of the mount screws through the pillar, and I added two 4-BID “tabs” sticking out to the right of the pillar to accommodate the other two mount screws. Dynon sells a pushrod kit that you can custom size for the servos to keep the travel angle within the specified angle range. I used the standard SV32 servos on both elevator and roll.

 

Glad you asked me to take these pictures, because I just noticed that I did not tighten up the jam nut on the lower end of the roll servo pushrod!

 

Cheers,
Jay

 


Re: Success with LSE Install

Martin Skiby
 

You will be very happy with the setup!   Enjoy.

Martin

 


On Nov 21, 2020, at 7:14 AM, Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser@...> wrote:

Murry has asked about idle and full-throttle RPM's so I thought I would update again since it is a quiet morning.

I am still adjusting idle but, so far, down as low as 690rpm it seemed to find a happy place.  The mixture has to be dialed in just right down low; too lean or too rich and it will die.  I could get it down around 550rpm once the engine was warmed up a bit but, again, the mixture was very sensitive and the engine would die if moved a little leaner or a little richer.  So more adjusting is needed. 

I haven't tied down the tail for a full-throttle test yet.

It sure runs SMOOTH though.  I decided to take off the brackets for the upper and lower DC mini sensors to have correct ones fabricated.  I hope to get those back next week and then get them back installed and running again.  

Corbin
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Corbin 
N33QR


Re: Success with LSE Install

Corbin
 

Murry has asked about idle and full-throttle RPM's so I thought I would update again since it is a quiet morning.

I am still adjusting idle but, so far, down as low as 690rpm it seemed to find a happy place.  The mixture has to be dialed in just right down low; too lean or too rich and it will die.  I could get it down around 550rpm once the engine was warmed up a bit but, again, the mixture was very sensitive and the engine would die if moved a little leaner or a little richer.  So more adjusting is needed. 

I haven't tied down the tail for a full-throttle test yet.

It sure runs SMOOTH though.  I decided to take off the brackets for the upper and lower DC mini sensors to have correct ones fabricated.  I hope to get those back next week and then get them back installed and running again.  

Corbin
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N33QR


Re: Groups.IO website renewal time for the Q-List

Sam Hoskins
 

STOP!!!

Thanks everyone.  We just made the $110, I appreciate your donations.  If you missed your chance, you'll just have to wait till next year.

Sam


Re: Groups.IO website renewal time for the Q-List

Corbin
 

Sorry Sam, now I see your note about the size of donation.

Corbin

On Nov 18, 2020, at 4:27 PM, Brian Larick <blarick@...> wrote:

 Sent Sam.  Hopefully I did it correctly.

Brian

On Nov 18, 2020, at 16:30, Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@...> wrote:

Hello All.

The annual renewal has come up for our little Quickie email list. When Verizon acquired Yahoo! they cut way back on their Groups section and as of next month they are completely killing it. Fortunately, Groups.IO to the rescue and we were able to retrieve many years of searchable Q-List conversations. 

Last year we got into Groups.IO through their introductory offer, $110/year. This has increased to $240, but fortunately we are grandfathered in at the intro price.  I think they have served us well.  There hasn't been any service interruptions, as far as I can tell and I think having a place for the photos and files is working out too. As of today, we have archived 11,930 messages. 

Also, feel free to open an album in the Photos section and upload relevant photos.  I just ask that you use your real name.  Use the Files section to upload relevant documents. Again, our home page is at https://q-list.groups.io/g/main 

Like last year, if you feel like donating a couple of bucks to keep us going, send a small contribution via PayPal for sam.hoskins@.... Be sure to call it a gift, or PP will change for the donation.   Any big donations will be politely returned. Like last year, if/when we hit the $110 amount I'll stop the solicitation and make refunds to anyone who doesn't make the cut-off.

Thanks everyone, and keep building.  It's worth it!  And oh yeah, be safe.

Sam Hoskins
N202SH Q-200

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Re: Groups.IO website renewal time for the Q-List

Brian Larick
 

Sent Sam.  Hopefully I did it correctly.

Brian

On Nov 18, 2020, at 16:30, Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@...> wrote:

Hello All.

The annual renewal has come up for our little Quickie email list. When Verizon acquired Yahoo! they cut way back on their Groups section and as of next month they are completely killing it. Fortunately, Groups.IO to the rescue and we were able to retrieve many years of searchable Q-List conversations. 

Last year we got into Groups.IO through their introductory offer, $110/year. This has increased to $240, but fortunately we are grandfathered in at the intro price.  I think they have served us well.  There hasn't been any service interruptions, as far as I can tell and I think having a place for the photos and files is working out too. As of today, we have archived 11,930 messages. 

Also, feel free to open an album in the Photos section and upload relevant photos.  I just ask that you use your real name.  Use the Files section to upload relevant documents. Again, our home page is at https://q-list.groups.io/g/main 

Like last year, if you feel like donating a couple of bucks to keep us going, send a small contribution via PayPal for sam.hoskins@.... Be sure to call it a gift, or PP will change for the donation.   Any big donations will be politely returned. Like last year, if/when we hit the $110 amount I'll stop the solicitation and make refunds to anyone who doesn't make the cut-off.

Thanks everyone, and keep building.  It's worth it!  And oh yeah, be safe.

Sam Hoskins
N202SH Q-200


Groups.IO website renewal time for the Q-List

Sam Hoskins
 

Hello All.

The annual renewal has come up for our little Quickie email list. When Verizon acquired Yahoo! they cut way back on their Groups section and as of next month they are completely killing it. Fortunately, Groups.IO to the rescue and we were able to retrieve many years of searchable Q-List conversations. 

Last year we got into Groups.IO through their introductory offer, $110/year. This has increased to $240, but fortunately we are grandfathered in at the intro price.  I think they have served us well.  There hasn't been any service interruptions, as far as I can tell and I think having a place for the photos and files is working out too. As of today, we have archived 11,930 messages. 

Also, feel free to open an album in the Photos section and upload relevant photos.  I just ask that you use your real name.  Use the Files section to upload relevant documents. Again, our home page is at https://q-list.groups.io/g/main 

Like last year, if you feel like donating a couple of bucks to keep us going, send a small contribution via PayPal for sam.hoskins@.... Be sure to call it a gift, or PP will change for the donation.   Any big donations will be politely returned. Like last year, if/when we hit the $110 amount I'll stop the solicitation and make refunds to anyone who doesn't make the cut-off.

Thanks everyone, and keep building.  It's worth it!  And oh yeah, be safe.

Sam Hoskins
N202SH Q-200


Re: Flight report

Richard Thomson
 

    Yep, been on it since 1996, with holidays in between.

    As the TriQ is almost there the lockdown allowed more time to get those nasty little jobs done, and one by one knock em down.

   The fins have been a long road, but now in a final sub assembly form ready to fit and skin.

    Engine mount and firewall fitted ( plenty of space for  Electronic ignition and the RDAC).😛

   But still loads to do.Viggen
        Mount Oct 20

    Rich T.

On 17/11/2020 15:50, Jay Scheevel wrote:

Hi Richard,

 

Did not know you also had a Viggen project. That is unique! I am using Dynon servos and autopilot. So far, so good.

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Thomson
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 2:33 AM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Flight report

 

Thanks Jay, I will look forward to seeing them. What servos are you using ?

We have been on lockdown for 2 weeks so not done anything on the TriQ, but have been continuing to build the twin fins for the Viggen, that has been hard work as the plans are various scales so you have to play with sizing all the time to get it right. Will swap you some pics when they are done.

Br

Rich T.

On 16/11/2020 16:51, Jay Scheevel wrote:

Hi Richard,

 

Oddly enough and quite out of character, I did not take any pictures of the install. I only took pictures of the lables, so that I could register warranty on them. I will take some pics next time I am out at the hangar, and post those for anyone who is interested. They seem to be working out quite well.

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Thomson
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:30 AM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Flight report

 

Pleased to hear you are having fun Jay, seems no time ago it was your first flight.

Have you put up any pictures of your servo install ?

Br

Rich T.

 

On 15/11/2020 21:40, Jay Scheevel wrote:

Hi All,

 

Had not been up in my Q for a couple weeks, so I thought I would take advantage of a nice calm, cool, crystal-clear fall day to do a short local flight. I have recently finished the final paint on my wheel fairings, so it is nice to have the airframe “finished”. Although it is a homebuilt, so I guess you are never really finished, right Sammy?

 

It was my first flight in a long time where the density altitude was less than the field altitude. DA was 4250 and field elevation is 4750 MSL.  So I guess you could call it a “low altitude” shake out flight for me. The good thing about cooler temperatures (5 degrees C at 1000’ AGL) is that it allows me to close up my radiator air exit doors and reduce drag. That adds some nice speed, so once I got up and level, I was showing over 170 mph TAS at about 70% power. Pulling it back to economy cruise (55% power), still gave me 160 mph TAS, which is really a nice speed at 5.5 gph!  The scenery is tremendous out here any time of year, but the lower sun angles make it really pop. Had to take a little opportunity to take it in, so I flew along the west edge of our valley (Grand Junction, CO) and flew down over the cemetery where my dad is resting and made a tight circle and couple of wing wags to say hello. The plane really likes about a 35 degree turn angle. It kind of “locks in” at that angle.

 

At my last condition inspection, I installed the autopilot servos, so I have been playing with the autopilot for a month or so. It is really nice to have, and having it hold altitude and heading is a real pleasure.  That gives you a chance to play with the engine settings without holding the stick. And magically, you can just twist the heading bug to make a turn. I have not used it for a multileg trip yet, but if I get the opportunity in one of the colder months, it will be nice.

 

Since it is starting to get chilly here, it is worth mentioning that I take my cabin heat air off the back side of the left and right radiators, so when I close up the exit air doors,  I get extra pressure on the hot air source into the cabin. That is a nice feature of winter flying for me, since that is the time that you are flying with the radiator exits mostly closed up.

 

My engine is really running smoothly and the rest of the plane is functioning as designed, so I am a happy homebuilder and now have 121 hours on the plane. Hoping to get out and see some of you in 2021, and maybe make that long dreamt of trip to OSH this year.

 

For those of you in Canada, hope you had a nice Thanksgiving, for those of you in the US, Happy Thanksgiving,  11 days from now, and for everyone else, I hope you have a nice November 26th!

 

Cheers,

Jay Scheevel, Tri-Q2 N8WQ, 121 hours.

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