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Re: Success with LSE Install

Corbin <c_geiser@...>
 
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I will likely update on the channel but could also post something just for this group as well.  Good idea.

CorbinAviation YT Channel
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Corbin 
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Re: Success with LSE Install

 

Corbin,
After everything is done and you’re doing engine runs ( high and low RPMs) any chance of posting a video of your results?
Thanks 

MikeQ200wannabe ( soon to be)


On Nov 23, 2020, at 9:26 AM, Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser@...> wrote:

Fairly simple really.  We were able to show Klaus how the brackets do not fit and he admitted they aren't correct once he reviewed that information.  He never offered to send new ones and was never asked to afterward.  I chose to take it upon myself to make sure I have the right part and make new ones versus wait for new ones that likely wouldn't fit again.  
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Re: Dynon AP install

Jay Scheevel
 

Hi Richard,

 

Yes the servo travel is affected by the reflexor, but the “brain” in the autopilot seems to figure that out, and I am not adjusting the reflexor too much when the AP is on anyway.

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Thomson
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 10:21 AM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Dynon AP install

 

Hi Jay

    Now I remember, a novel set up. So is the geometry of the servo affected by the relexor ?

    br

    Rich.T.

On 23/11/2020 15:14, Jay Scheevel wrote:

Hi Richard,

 

Yes it is very busy, but I have two removable side panels that allow me to get to everything!

 

You have your reflexor right. Mine is just one of my many mods. On the back side of the bulkhead, there is a phenolic pulley bolted onto the reflexor “donut”. It has a cable wrapped three times around that goes up to my control handle in front. The cable-based control can be handled with more finesse, has no play, and has a variable friction lock. The handle is like another stick on the left side that has the same pitch up, pitch down sense as the control stick on the right. Here is a picture so you can visualize the entire assembly.

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Thomson
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 7:30 AM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Dynon AP install

 

Thanks Jay,

Glad I have my uses.  I have just noticed that your reflex lever is behind your bulkhead. Is that a mod or have I got mine wrong ?

Looks pretty busy under your panel.

Br

Rich T.


Re: Success with LSE Install

Corbin <c_geiser@...>
 

Fairly simple really.  We were able to show Klaus how the brackets do not fit and he admitted they aren't correct once he reviewed that information.  He never offered to send new ones and was never asked to afterward.  I chose to take it upon myself to make sure I have the right part and make new ones versus wait for new ones that likely wouldn't fit again.  
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N33QR


Re: Dynon AP install

Richard Thomson
 

Hi Jay

    Now I remember, a novel set up. So is the geometry of the servo affected by the relexor ?

    br

    Rich.T.

On 23/11/2020 15:14, Jay Scheevel wrote:

Hi Richard,

 

Yes it is very busy, but I have two removable side panels that allow me to get to everything!

 

You have your reflexor right. Mine is just one of my many mods. On the back side of the bulkhead, there is a phenolic pulley bolted onto the reflexor “donut”. It has a cable wrapped three times around that goes up to my control handle in front. The cable-based control can be handled with more finesse, has no play, and has a variable friction lock. The handle is like another stick on the left side that has the same pitch up, pitch down sense as the control stick on the right. Here is a picture so you can visualize the entire assembly.

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Thomson
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 7:30 AM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Dynon AP install

 

Thanks Jay,

Glad I have my uses.  I have just noticed that your reflex lever is behind your bulkhead. Is that a mod or have I got mine wrong ?

Looks pretty busy under your panel.

Br

Rich T.


Re: Success with LSE Install

Rik
 

I’m still a bit confused. 

Is klaus refusing to send you the correct mounting hardware?

it has been long enough for the postal pigeons to have delivered it from California to Texas. 

What if, something greater goes wrong? 


Re: Dynon AP install

Jay Scheevel
 

Hi Richard,

 

Yes it is very busy, but I have two removable side panels that allow me to get to everything!

 

You have your reflexor right. Mine is just one of my many mods. On the back side of the bulkhead, there is a phenolic pulley bolted onto the reflexor “donut”. It has a cable wrapped three times around that goes up to my control handle in front. The cable-based control can be handled with more finesse, has no play, and has a variable friction lock. The handle is like another stick on the left side that has the same pitch up, pitch down sense as the control stick on the right. Here is a picture so you can visualize the entire assembly.

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Thomson
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 7:30 AM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Dynon AP install

 

Thanks Jay,

Glad I have my uses.  I have just noticed that your reflex lever is behind your bulkhead. Is that a mod or have I got mine wrong ?

Looks pretty busy under your panel.

Br

Rich T.


Re: Dynon AP install

Richard Thomson
 

Thanks Jay,

Glad I have my uses.  I have just noticed that your reflex lever is behind your bulkhead. Is that a mod or have I got mine wrong ?

Looks pretty busy under your panel.

Br

Rich T.

On 21/11/2020 15:28, Jay Scheevel wrote:

Hi Richard,

 

Here are the pictures of the Dynon auto pilot servos as installed. The pitch servo looks much more crowded than it really is because of the camera angle, which shows the rudder cable, flexible brake lines, fuel lines, wiring, and elevator trim mechanism, which are all mounted below the oversized header. For the servo, I built a right-angle mount bracket out of 5-BID with a radiused flox corner, then mounted it to the canard by bonding some studs to the wing and using nuts and washers to hold the angle bracket down. I put a couple stiff thick silicone bead strips under the end of the servo to keep it from flexing and vibrating on the mount.

 

The roll servo is mounted  through the center pillar of the FS 94 bulkhead. The servo is mounted flush with the forward face of the pillar. I countersunk (and reinforced with glass) two of the mount screws through the pillar, and I added two 4-BID “tabs” sticking out to the right of the pillar to accommodate the other two mount screws. Dynon sells a pushrod kit that you can custom size for the servos to keep the travel angle within the specified angle range. I used the standard SV32 servos on both elevator and roll.

 

Glad you asked me to take these pictures, because I just noticed that I did not tighten up the jam nut on the lower end of the roll servo pushrod!

 

Cheers,
Jay

 


Q1 parts

David Hawks
 

I am told that a gentleman named Leon McAtee had a full set of pieces-parts drawings for the  Q1. Anyone know how to contact him?


Re: Fit

Jay Scheevel
 

Looking good, Chris. Came up with a paint motif for your Cowl 😊

 

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From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dorothea Keats
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2020 2:23 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: [Q-List] Fit

 

 Still poking along on the Q200. Managed to remake a Q200 cowl to accept a 2.5 turbocharged Subaru. Ended up using a 13 inch spinner.

 

Doing the micro and West epoxi on all the flying surfaces and then I will attach the wing and canard.  Hopefully before Xmas.

 

Still having fun----------  Chris in Canada

 

 

 

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Re: Fit

Patrick Panzera
 

Great to hear!!!

Pat 

On Sat, Nov 21, 2020, 1:23 PM Dorothea Keats <dkeats@...> wrote:
  Still poking along on the Q200. Managed to remake a Q200 cowl to
accept a 2.5 turbocharged Subaru. Ended up using a 13 inch spinner.

Doing the micro and West epoxi on all the flying surfaces and then I
will attach the wing and canard.  Hopefully before Xmas.

Still having fun----------  Chris in Canada



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Fit

Chris Walterson
 

Still poking along on the Q200. Managed to remake a Q200 cowl to accept a 2.5 turbocharged Subaru. Ended up using a 13 inch spinner.

Doing the micro and West epoxi on all the flying surfaces and then I will attach the wing and canard.  Hopefully before Xmas.

Still having fun----------  Chris in Canada



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Re: Success with LSE Install

Robert Cringely
 

Paul was a great guy. I was working with him on wind turbines when he became ill. Alas, that project died with him...



On Sat, Nov 21, 2020 at 10:02 AM Jim Patillo <Logistics_engineering@...> wrote:
I second what Martin and others have said. You’re gonna love it.

I’ve been flying with Dual Plasma 3 ‘s for 1500 hours now,  having switched from Slick Mags. I didn’t like the idea of having to remove the engine every time the mags needed checking.

The Lightspeed’s have worked much better than expected but with Paul Lipps doing the engineering what else would you have expected. He was a really, really smart guy.

I checked idle again yesterday on both ignitions and I can still idle at 450 RPM and prop rotation is noticibly slow.

You’re making great progress Corbin.

Jim
N46JP Q200

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Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2020 7:16:45 AM
To: main@q-list.groups.io <main@q-list.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Success with LSE Install
 
You will be very happy with the setup!   Enjoy.

Martin

 


On Nov 21, 2020, at 7:14 AM, Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:

Murry has asked about idle and full-throttle RPM's so I thought I would update again since it is a quiet morning.

I am still adjusting idle but, so far, down as low as 690rpm it seemed to find a happy place.  The mixture has to be dialed in just right down low; too lean or too rich and it will die.  I could get it down around 550rpm once the engine was warmed up a bit but, again, the mixture was very sensitive and the engine would die if moved a little leaner or a little richer.  So more adjusting is needed. 

I haven't tied down the tail for a full-throttle test yet.

It sure runs SMOOTH though.  I decided to take off the brackets for the upper and lower DC mini sensors to have correct ones fabricated.  I hope to get those back next week and then get them back installed and running again.  

Corbin
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Re: Success with LSE Install

Jim Patillo
 

I second what Martin and others have said. You’re gonna love it.

I’ve been flying with Dual Plasma 3 ‘s for 1500 hours now,  having switched from Slick Mags. I didn’t like the idea of having to remove the engine every time the mags needed checking.

The Lightspeed’s have worked much better than expected but with Paul Lipps doing the engineering what else would you have expected. He was a really, really smart guy.

I checked idle again yesterday on both ignitions and I can still idle at 450 RPM and prop rotation is noticibly slow.

You’re making great progress Corbin.

Jim
N46JP Q200

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From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Martin Skiby <mskiby@...>
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2020 7:16:45 AM
To: main@q-list.groups.io <main@q-list.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Success with LSE Install
 
You will be very happy with the setup!   Enjoy.

Martin

 


On Nov 21, 2020, at 7:14 AM, Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser@...> wrote:

Murry has asked about idle and full-throttle RPM's so I thought I would update again since it is a quiet morning.

I am still adjusting idle but, so far, down as low as 690rpm it seemed to find a happy place.  The mixture has to be dialed in just right down low; too lean or too rich and it will die.  I could get it down around 550rpm once the engine was warmed up a bit but, again, the mixture was very sensitive and the engine would die if moved a little leaner or a little richer.  So more adjusting is needed. 

I haven't tied down the tail for a full-throttle test yet.

It sure runs SMOOTH though.  I decided to take off the brackets for the upper and lower DC mini sensors to have correct ones fabricated.  I hope to get those back next week and then get them back installed and running again.  

Corbin
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N33QR


Dynon AP install

Jay Scheevel
 

Hi Richard,

 

Here are the pictures of the Dynon auto pilot servos as installed. The pitch servo looks much more crowded than it really is because of the camera angle, which shows the rudder cable, flexible brake lines, fuel lines, wiring, and elevator trim mechanism, which are all mounted below the oversized header. For the servo, I built a right-angle mount bracket out of 5-BID with a radiused flox corner, then mounted it to the canard by bonding some studs to the wing and using nuts and washers to hold the angle bracket down. I put a couple stiff thick silicone bead strips under the end of the servo to keep it from flexing and vibrating on the mount.

 

The roll servo is mounted  through the center pillar of the FS 94 bulkhead. The servo is mounted flush with the forward face of the pillar. I countersunk (and reinforced with glass) two of the mount screws through the pillar, and I added two 4-BID “tabs” sticking out to the right of the pillar to accommodate the other two mount screws. Dynon sells a pushrod kit that you can custom size for the servos to keep the travel angle within the specified angle range. I used the standard SV32 servos on both elevator and roll.

 

Glad you asked me to take these pictures, because I just noticed that I did not tighten up the jam nut on the lower end of the roll servo pushrod!

 

Cheers,
Jay

 


Re: Success with LSE Install

Martin Skiby
 

You will be very happy with the setup!   Enjoy.

Martin

 


On Nov 21, 2020, at 7:14 AM, Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser@...> wrote:

Murry has asked about idle and full-throttle RPM's so I thought I would update again since it is a quiet morning.

I am still adjusting idle but, so far, down as low as 690rpm it seemed to find a happy place.  The mixture has to be dialed in just right down low; too lean or too rich and it will die.  I could get it down around 550rpm once the engine was warmed up a bit but, again, the mixture was very sensitive and the engine would die if moved a little leaner or a little richer.  So more adjusting is needed. 

I haven't tied down the tail for a full-throttle test yet.

It sure runs SMOOTH though.  I decided to take off the brackets for the upper and lower DC mini sensors to have correct ones fabricated.  I hope to get those back next week and then get them back installed and running again.  

Corbin
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Corbin 
N33QR


Re: Success with LSE Install

Corbin <c_geiser@...>
 

Murry has asked about idle and full-throttle RPM's so I thought I would update again since it is a quiet morning.

I am still adjusting idle but, so far, down as low as 690rpm it seemed to find a happy place.  The mixture has to be dialed in just right down low; too lean or too rich and it will die.  I could get it down around 550rpm once the engine was warmed up a bit but, again, the mixture was very sensitive and the engine would die if moved a little leaner or a little richer.  So more adjusting is needed. 

I haven't tied down the tail for a full-throttle test yet.

It sure runs SMOOTH though.  I decided to take off the brackets for the upper and lower DC mini sensors to have correct ones fabricated.  I hope to get those back next week and then get them back installed and running again.  

Corbin
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Re: Groups.IO website renewal time for the Q-List

Sam Hoskins
 

STOP!!!

Thanks everyone.  We just made the $110, I appreciate your donations.  If you missed your chance, you'll just have to wait till next year.

Sam


Re: Groups.IO website renewal time for the Q-List

Corbin <c_geiser@...>
 

Sorry Sam, now I see your note about the size of donation.

Corbin

On Nov 18, 2020, at 4:27 PM, Brian Larick <blarick@...> wrote:

 Sent Sam.  Hopefully I did it correctly.

Brian

On Nov 18, 2020, at 16:30, Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@...> wrote:

Hello All.

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Last year we got into Groups.IO through their introductory offer, $110/year. This has increased to $240, but fortunately we are grandfathered in at the intro price.  I think they have served us well.  There hasn't been any service interruptions, as far as I can tell and I think having a place for the photos and files is working out too. As of today, we have archived 11,930 messages. 

Also, feel free to open an album in the Photos section and upload relevant photos.  I just ask that you use your real name.  Use the Files section to upload relevant documents. Again, our home page is at https://q-list.groups.io/g/main 

Like last year, if you feel like donating a couple of bucks to keep us going, send a small contribution via PayPal for sam.hoskins@.... Be sure to call it a gift, or PP will change for the donation.   Any big donations will be politely returned. Like last year, if/when we hit the $110 amount I'll stop the solicitation and make refunds to anyone who doesn't make the cut-off.

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Re: Groups.IO website renewal time for the Q-List

Brian Larick
 

Sent Sam.  Hopefully I did it correctly.

Brian

On Nov 18, 2020, at 16:30, Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@...> wrote:

Hello All.

The annual renewal has come up for our little Quickie email list. When Verizon acquired Yahoo! they cut way back on their Groups section and as of next month they are completely killing it. Fortunately, Groups.IO to the rescue and we were able to retrieve many years of searchable Q-List conversations. 

Last year we got into Groups.IO through their introductory offer, $110/year. This has increased to $240, but fortunately we are grandfathered in at the intro price.  I think they have served us well.  There hasn't been any service interruptions, as far as I can tell and I think having a place for the photos and files is working out too. As of today, we have archived 11,930 messages. 

Also, feel free to open an album in the Photos section and upload relevant photos.  I just ask that you use your real name.  Use the Files section to upload relevant documents. Again, our home page is at https://q-list.groups.io/g/main 

Like last year, if you feel like donating a couple of bucks to keep us going, send a small contribution via PayPal for sam.hoskins@.... Be sure to call it a gift, or PP will change for the donation.   Any big donations will be politely returned. Like last year, if/when we hit the $110 amount I'll stop the solicitation and make refunds to anyone who doesn't make the cut-off.

Thanks everyone, and keep building.  It's worth it!  And oh yeah, be safe.

Sam Hoskins
N202SH Q-200

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