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Re: Gypsy Wind

 

This!
This is why building this project is important to me. As well as making something that will hopefully outlive me in the long run, I want to build this the way I think it should be done. Access panels where they are actually needed etc etc.... Ive also been doing live feeds with some 7-12 graders on this build, to garner interest in maintenance. Everyone focuses on pilots, but what about the builders and maintainers? There's a lot of love for the industry not seen by the public. The story is missing half its heart.


Re: Gypsy Wind

Frankenbird Vern
 

 Most of the folks I worked with then have passed away now. Dale Bacon, Walter Underwood. Mike Shroyer. 

 I was a young 20 year old then..earned my Private Certificate at North Little Rock municipal at 22 years old and that was also where I had my first chance to see (and fly) a Q1.  Little did I know then I would be working with Rutan and RAF/Scaled Composites in just a few years in Wichita. 

 I have not kept up with Dassault at all since then. I was also on the HU-25A conversion team. The Falcon 10, 20, and 50 are built like tanks..I built Lears, Beech, Cessna's, and more than a few restorations all the way back to Golden Era. Falcons of those days are superior aircraft.  

  Met a lot of celebrities. Some not so good.  For example, I have kept my promise to myself I would never go to a Wendy's. Horrible reps and ugly as shit Interior to boot. The Bee Gees on the other hand were a blast to have with us. I was Lead tech on both aircraft.

  Here's a trick if you have squawks on the cabin polarized windows slipping on the knob. We used to file shallow "v" cuts with a triangle file in the edge of the rotating plexiglas so the rubber o-rings would grip better. Increasing the spring tension on the idler pully helps a bit also. A small detail but the owners really appreciate the windows working as designed. 

 When Falcon no longer won 1st prize at the airshows because we were forced to give up the one piece headliner for example,  Teterboro sent idiots with stop watches do "time study" so the time to complete would be less. That also ment a few extra touches like this one were no longer done in order to meet the brain dead on arrival Industrial Engineering time limits. Anyway..the opportunity at Beech made my exit all that more interesting. 

 Reminds me of a lot of things similar...like the 787 and 737 Max.  Everyone here should consider that as homebuilders ALL of us can far exceed the factory builts because of not being forced to pay Stox dividends. What a factory tech might have an advantage of is repetitive experience but the loss is the special touches and care of fit up. It is a freedom of building that NO factory person can comprehend...only dream about! Every one of you have much more in your heart than almost any aviation workerbee. Do every task on your bird the best you can..even the seemingly non important ones.       


From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Cody <cody.craig1985@...>
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 8:56 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Gypsy Wind
 
Vern! 
Actually that isn't a hangar mate per say... He's a customer. I work exclusively on "Legacy Falcons" here at Phoenix Rising. Honestly reading Dassaults reports the New ones suck. Lots of corrosion issues, where my babies fly forever provided someone lives them. Did you know Richard Price, or Karl Eisenmanger? Pete Kranick? My emails cody.craig1985@..., I work on all the smaller planes on the side, but main job is all about Falcons.  


Re: Gypsy Wind

 
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Vern! 
Actually that isn't a hangar mate per say... He's a customer. I work exclusively on "Legacy Falcons" here at Phoenix Rising. Honestly reading Dassaults reports the New ones suck. Lots of corrosion issues, where my babies fly forever provided someone loves them. Did you know Richard Price, or Karl Eisenmanger? Pete Kranick? My emails cody.craig1985@..., I work on all the smaller planes on the side, but main job is all about Falcons.


Re: Gypsy Wind

Michael Dunning
 

B-to-the-A getting to use a heated paintbooth for layup parties mid-winter. Rock on!
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-MD
#2827 (still thinking about planning on visualizing how to finish building)


Re: Ram Air Vent Tube and Pitot Tube Cover

Michael Dunning
 

Roll Your Own Pitot Tube Cover
Kitplanes, September 2016

-MD
#2827 (still thinking about planning on visualizing how to finish building)


Re: progress

Michael Dunning
 

On Sun, Dec 6, 2020 at 03:08 PM, Dorothea Keats wrote:
...because I had
jigging blocks attached to the bottom, I put the canard on the floor,
leveled it and installed the addition 1 degree of incidence and then
bondoed the blocks to the floor.  I've done this before and find it
easier to move the fuselage to the canard than to lift the canard to the
fuselage...

This is a fantastically insightful builder tip; especially considering that the fuselage isn't the part that needs to be perfectly level/square. Thanks for sharing!!
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#2827 (still thinking about planning on visualizing how to finish building)


Re: Flight report

Kevin Boddicker
 

Dustin,
Glad you enjoyed it.
Now get to work!!! :-)))

Kevin

On Dec 7, 2020, at 7:21 AM, dustinlanell@... wrote:

I seldom write anything, but it's stories like this that keep me building.
Dustin Graber

On Dec 6, 2020 1:24 PM, Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...> wrote:
Living vicariously thru you two!  Say, isn’t 35 F like a heat wave in the northern climes?
Bruce


On Dec 6, 2020, at 11:45 AM, Rodney Herzig <zzigster@...> wrote:

 Thanks for sharing Kevin. I felt like I was right there with you guys 😎🍺

Rodney 


On Dec 6, 2020, at 6:35 AM, Jerry Marstall <jnmarstall@...> wrote:

 Great report Kev. Glad yo guys are sneaking in some air time between storms and cold. Jerry 

-------- Original message --------
From: Jay Scheevel <jay@...>
Date: 12/6/20 11:27 AM (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Flight report

Nice report, Kevin,

Thanks for the excellent visuals. You should become an author!

Cheers,
Jay

-----Original Message-----
From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Boddicker
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2020 7:19 AM
To: Q List <Q-List@groups.io>
Subject: [Q-List] Flight report

5 Dec 20

Recieved an email from Paul Fisher asking what I was doing. Flying somewhere I guess.
As it turned out Paul flew to DEH from DVN. Landed about 11:00 AM. He made a prefect landing. Calm winds and 35°F.
We had a bite of lunch as my plane was being preheated, fumed, preflighted.
High thin overcast clearing with breaks, so some sunshine. Important because the cockpit is a lot more comfortable with sunshine at this temp.
Fired up about 12:30PM.
Mission is to fly with Paul half way to DVN formation. Th twist is I was going to do the formation flying and Paul was going to lead.
We fly this way a lot, but I always lead. Only tried to follow once before, on the way home from FOD Emporia. We quickly changed as I didn’t preform well.
Not much change this time. Closest I got was 500’. Farthest was half mile. Being coached by Paul did help, but I think its best I stick to lead.
We parted ways and flew to our home airports.
Made a good landing myself!
Excellent day for flying, trying a new challenge, and enjoying the gift of aviation!!

Hope this spurs some activity from the group. Been too quite lately. Let’s hear it!!!





Kevin Boddicker
TriQ 200 N7868B   542 hrs
Luana, IA.




















Re: Gypsy Wind

Frankenbird Vern
 

 Cody.. maybe your hangar mate with the Falcon 20 better keep an eye on those sheepskin seat covers in the cockpit? 😉

 I was one of the Lead A&P at Falcon Jet on the Falcon 10, 20, and later 50 in Little Rock from 1977-1982.  When you get to 
chat in person I'll talk your ear off on stories at that setting if you're not careful. 

 Your twist in the shells not uncommon. My set are also..but structurally if not too extreme it's a non issue. To be truthful the twist was
probably right out of the fab tools.  Setting up as you have is the correct path. Be careful about washing to the foam edges when cleaning. The bond to the foam on either the IML or OML skins could be instantly compromised with a pressure washer. You will need to ruff sand back for the glass tape bonds a couple of inches from each shell edge anyway so I would hand clean those areas last.   

 I'd like to link e-mails if possible. My off site address is Smeshno1@... 

Vern      


From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Cody <cody.craig1985@...>
Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2020 6:23 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io>
Subject: [Q-List] Gypsy Wind
 
Gypsy Wind,

She is straightening up, lining out, showing smooth lines and feeling loved. I haven't laid fresh glass on her yet, when we fitted the shells together I noticed a 2 1/2" warp between the top and bottom fuselage shells. I decided I needed a laser level, 3ft steel rules, math and some straps. I started by slowly bending the bottom back into straight using lead shot bags and a spare battery. Checked my lines with the laser level and started marking waterline. Then I set the top down and ratchet strapped it straight. While everythings strapped and straight I figured I'd check the canopy cut lines. Close but not quite, so I cleaned up the previous cut and now the canopy "clicks" into place in the fuselage. I decided to mock in the firewall and FS94 bulkhead and Mark where I need to sand and clean for fresh glass. Next step is to pressure wash the shells and get all the dirt, grime, mold, etc out of there. Once Gypsy is prepped, we plan on a layup party on a Friday night in the paint booth. I can keep her at a nice 80-90 degrees until Sunday and then set her back in the cold shop. 


Re: Ram Air Vent Tube and Pitot Tube Cover

Corbin <c_geiser@...>
 

Ahh....thanks!  I will hunt that article down this week!
--

Corbin 
N33QR


Re: Ram Air Vent Tube and Pitot Tube Cover

Michael Dunning
 

Corbin,

If you subscribe to Kitplanes, they actually had a DIY article on how to make your own covers a few years back.
--
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#2827 (still thinking about planning on visualizing how to finish building)


Re: Flight report

Dustin Graber
 

I seldom write anything, but it's stories like this that keep me building.
Dustin Graber

On Dec 6, 2020 1:24 PM, Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...> wrote:
Living vicariously thru you two!  Say, isn’t 35 F like a heat wave in the northern climes?
Bruce


On Dec 6, 2020, at 11:45 AM, Rodney Herzig <zzigster@...> wrote:

 Thanks for sharing Kevin. I felt like I was right there with you guys 😎🍺

Rodney 


On Dec 6, 2020, at 6:35 AM, Jerry Marstall <jnmarstall@...> wrote:

 Great report Kev. Glad yo guys are sneaking in some air time between storms and cold. Jerry 

-------- Original message --------
From: Jay Scheevel <jay@...>
Date: 12/6/20 11:27 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Flight report

Nice report, Kevin,

Thanks for the excellent visuals. You should become an author!

Cheers,
Jay

-----Original Message-----
From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Boddicker
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2020 7:19 AM
To: Q List <Q-List@groups.io>
Subject: [Q-List] Flight report

5 Dec 20

Recieved an email from Paul Fisher asking what I was doing. Flying somewhere I guess.
As it turned out Paul flew to DEH from DVN. Landed about 11:00 AM. He made a prefect landing. Calm winds and 35°F.
We had a bite of lunch as my plane was being preheated, fumed, preflighted.
High thin overcast clearing with breaks, so some sunshine. Important because the cockpit is a lot more comfortable with sunshine at this temp.
Fired up about 12:30PM.
Mission is to fly with Paul half way to DVN formation. Th twist is I was going to do the formation flying and Paul was going to lead.
We fly this way a lot, but I always lead. Only tried to follow once before, on the way home from FOD Emporia. We quickly changed as I didn’t preform well.
Not much change this time. Closest I got was 500’. Farthest was half mile. Being coached by Paul did help, but I think its best I stick to lead.
We parted ways and flew to our home airports.
Made a good landing myself!
Excellent day for flying, trying a new challenge, and enjoying the gift of aviation!!

Hope this spurs some activity from the group. Been too quite lately. Let’s hear it!!!





Kevin Boddicker
TriQ 200 N7868B   542 hrs
Luana, IA.



















Re: Gypsy Wind

Bruce Crain
 

Movin’ and shakin’!  Sit in it and make some engine noises!  🤣
Bruce


On Dec 6, 2020, at 6:56 PM, Cody <cody.craig1985@...> wrote:

I haven't thrown out the old stuff, but it's not going to be used on this plane. That's another reason glass isn't laid yet. I figured I should get a lot of prep work completed and cleaned before really taping things together. 



Re: Gypsy Wind

 

I haven't thrown out the old stuff, but it's not going to be used on this plane. That's another reason glass isn't laid yet. I figured I should get a lot of prep work completed and cleaned before really taping things together. 


Re: Gypsy Wind

Jay Scheevel
 

Very nice work Cody! Please tell me that you have thrown out that nasty old epoxy and will be using some new stuff (I use AeroPoxy for structural layups)

Cheers,
Jay


On Dec 6, 2020, at 5:24 PM, Cody <cody.craig1985@...> wrote:

Gypsy Wind,

She is straightening up, lining out, showing smooth lines and feeling loved. I haven't laid fresh glass on her yet, when we fitted the shells together I noticed a 2 1/2" warp between the top and bottom fuselage shells. I decided I needed a laser level, 3ft steel rules, math and some straps. I started by slowly bending the bottom back into straight using lead shot bags and a spare battery. Checked my lines with the laser level and started marking waterline. Then I set the top down and ratchet strapped it straight. While everythings strapped and straight I figured I'd check the canopy cut lines. Close but not quite, so I cleaned up the previous cut and now the canopy "clicks" into place in the fuselage. I decided to mock in the firewall and FS94 bulkhead and Mark where I need to sand and clean for fresh glass. Next step is to pressure wash the shells and get all the dirt, grime, mold, etc out of there. Once Gypsy is prepped, we plan on a layup party on a Friday night in the paint booth. I can keep her at a nice 80-90 degrees until Sunday and then set her back in the cold shop. 
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Gypsy Wind

 

Gypsy Wind,

She is straightening up, lining out, showing smooth lines and feeling loved. I haven't laid fresh glass on her yet, when we fitted the shells together I noticed a 2 1/2" warp between the top and bottom fuselage shells. I decided I needed a laser level, 3ft steel rules, math and some straps. I started by slowly bending the bottom back into straight using lead shot bags and a spare battery. Checked my lines with the laser level and started marking waterline. Then I set the top down and ratchet strapped it straight. While everythings strapped and straight I figured I'd check the canopy cut lines. Close but not quite, so I cleaned up the previous cut and now the canopy "clicks" into place in the fuselage. I decided to mock in the firewall and FS94 bulkhead and Mark where I need to sand and clean for fresh glass. Next step is to pressure wash the shells and get all the dirt, grime, mold, etc out of there. Once Gypsy is prepped, we plan on a layup party on a Friday night in the paint booth. I can keep her at a nice 80-90 degrees until Sunday and then set her back in the cold shop. 


Re: progress

Bruce Crain
 

Nice! Way to go Chris! Making lots of progress!
Bruce Crain
On Dec 6, 2020, at 3:08 PM, Dorothea Keats <dkeats@...> wrote:

 Just finished cleaning the shop. I finally have the wing removed from the table and hanging from the ceiling, Have the fuselage removed from the build table and doing a bit of filling on the fuselage to tail connection.

The canard has been removed from the build table and because I had jigging blocks attached to the bottom, I put the canard on the floor, leveled it and installed the addition 1 degree of incidence and then bondoed the blocks to the floor. I've done this before and find it easier to move the fuselage to the canard than to lift the canard to the fuselage. Hope to install the airfoils permanentley soon.

I also finished the landing gear I had made. It is the steel spring gear. Made the wheel pants and fairings and layed on the first coat of primmer. The assemble in the middle is the complete unit and the other pieces are what goes into building it. The brakes I am using are from Sonnex. Nice units. The complete weight with fairings, brakes, gear and wheels is 20 lbs per side. I am confident I am going to be much heavier than most Q's with my Subaru installed , so although the gear may be a bit heavy , it will be very robust.

Still having fun--------------- Chris



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Saturday's Q-Tour - Matthew Curcio's Well Traveled Q-200 December 12 - 0900 Central Time

Sam Hoskins
 

This month's Q-Tour features Matthew Curcio.  I met Matthew at Oshkosh and he had just acquired a Q-200 and was living in Ohio. He got the plane up and running and got a job at Scaled Composites. Since then, he has flown in each of the lower 48 states and also to Barrow, Alaska. He made several modifications to turn his Q-200 into a real long distance plane.This will be a really interesting Q-tour, be sure to join us. The log-in link is at the bottom of this email.

The January Tour will star Corbin Geiser. Corbin also acquired a previously built Q-200, and like the rest of us, is making improvements to the aircraft. After he purchased it, he did all the right things to get ready to fly his new toy, and he is reaping the rewards.

Sam Hoskins is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.
 
Topic: Matthew Curcio #Q-Tour
Time: Dec 12, 2020 09:00 AM Central Time (US and Canada) 
 
Join Zoom Meeting
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Meeting ID: 729 8406 6294
Passcode: 7bik6e
 


progress

Chris Walterson
 

Just finished cleaning the shop. I finally have the wing removed from the table and hanging from the ceiling, Have the fuselage removed from the build table and doing a bit of filling on the fuselage to tail connection.

The canard has been removed from the build table and because I had jigging blocks attached to the bottom, I put the canard on the floor, leveled it and installed the addition 1 degree of incidence and then bondoed the blocks to the floor.  I've done this before and find it easier to move the fuselage to the canard than to lift the canard to the fuselage. Hope to install the airfoils permanentley soon.

 I also finished the landing gear I had made. It is the steel spring gear. Made the wheel pants and fairings and layed on the first coat of primmer.   The assemble in the middle is the complete unit and the other pieces are what goes into building it.  The brakes I am using are from Sonnex. Nice units.  The complete weight with fairings, brakes, gear and wheels is 20 lbs per side.  I  am confident I am going to be much heavier than most Q's with my Subaru installed , so although the gear may be a bit heavy , it will be very robust.

Still having fun---------------  Chris



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New Tri Q200 Pilot!!

Bruce Crain
 

Thought I’d let you all know there is a “new Quickie Sheriff” out there in the southern US! Pete Stein and a myself flailed the skies around Enid Woodring Airport with a sortie to Stearman field for lunch one day. A bit less than 4 hours right seat and Pete can now land my TriQ better than I! Plus keep ‘er straight down the runway taxi runs!
He bought a beautiful lavender/white TriQ in Gilespie field in California! Pete is one of the best at handling my TriQ! Expecting big things and hopefully trips to see each other in the future. I will let Pete send pics or videos if he likes.
Bruce Crain
N96BJ
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Re: Flight report

Bruce Crain
 

Living vicariously thru you two!  Say, isn’t 35 F like a heat wave in the northern climes?
Bruce


On Dec 6, 2020, at 11:45 AM, Rodney Herzig <zzigster@...> wrote:

 Thanks for sharing Kevin. I felt like I was right there with you guys 😎🍺

Rodney 


On Dec 6, 2020, at 6:35 AM, Jerry Marstall <jnmarstall@...> wrote:

 Great report Kev. Glad yo guys are sneaking in some air time between storms and cold. Jerry 

-------- Original message --------
From: Jay Scheevel <jay@...>
Date: 12/6/20 11:27 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Flight report

Nice report, Kevin,

Thanks for the excellent visuals. You should become an author!

Cheers,
Jay

-----Original Message-----
From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Boddicker
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2020 7:19 AM
To: Q List <Q-List@groups.io>
Subject: [Q-List] Flight report

5 Dec 20

Recieved an email from Paul Fisher asking what I was doing. Flying somewhere I guess.
As it turned out Paul flew to DEH from DVN. Landed about 11:00 AM. He made a prefect landing. Calm winds and 35°F.
We had a bite of lunch as my plane was being preheated, fumed, preflighted.
High thin overcast clearing with breaks, so some sunshine. Important because the cockpit is a lot more comfortable with sunshine at this temp.
Fired up about 12:30PM.
Mission is to fly with Paul half way to DVN formation. Th twist is I was going to do the formation flying and Paul was going to lead.
We fly this way a lot, but I always lead. Only tried to follow once before, on the way home from FOD Emporia. We quickly changed as I didn’t preform well.
Not much change this time. Closest I got was 500’. Farthest was half mile. Being coached by Paul did help, but I think its best I stick to lead.
We parted ways and flew to our home airports.
Made a good landing myself!
Excellent day for flying, trying a new challenge, and enjoying the gift of aviation!!

Hope this spurs some activity from the group. Been too quite lately. Let’s hear it!!!





Kevin Boddicker
TriQ 200 N7868B   542 hrs
Luana, IA.

















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