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Re: Mass balance

Jim Patillo
 

Why don’t you just follow the Q200 plans. That seemed to work for me.

Jim
N46JP Q200

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Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 4:05:14 PM
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Subject: [Q-List] Mass balance
 
  I noticed before it was mentioned you could use one mass balance for
the elevators on the Q200.  Is there any special place it should go?  I
am tempted to weld the balance arm to one of the center bellcranks.

  On another note, I am installing dual controls in my airplane. One on
the center as per plans and then another on the right consol. It will
fit, just.  Because the fuselage is rounded I need to cut a bit of
fuselage away and have the bellcrank partley inside the root fairing for
the canard.

  Got  the canard and wing mounted and will send some pictures later and
explanation of what  I did .

  still having fun-------------  Chris


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Mass balance

Chris Walterson
 

I noticed before it was mentioned you could use one mass balance for the elevators on the Q200.  Is there any special place it should go?  I am tempted to weld the balance arm to one of the center bellcranks.

 On another note, I am installing dual controls in my airplane. One on the center as per plans and then another on the right consol. It will fit, just.  Because the fuselage is rounded I need to cut a bit of fuselage away and have the bellcrank partley inside the root fairing for the canard.

 Got  the canard and wing mounted and will send some pictures later and explanation of what  I did .

 still having fun-------------  Chris


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Re: Canceling this month's Q-Tour

Sam Hoskins
 

Sure. Good idea. 

Use the same link I previously sent out and you'll be good for 40 minutes. 

On Thu, Dec 10, 2020, 2:24 PM Michael <dunningme@...> wrote:
Sam,

I'd really like to see us keep the momentum going on these talks. Any chance we can still get the gang together for 40 minutes of "Hangar Flying" this weekend, generic Q&A? 
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-MD
#2827 (still thinking about planning on visualizing how to finish building)


Re: Canceling this month's Q-Tour

Michael
 

Sam,

I'd really like to see us keep the momentum going on these talks. Any chance we can still get the gang together for 40 minutes of "Hangar Flying" this weekend, generic Q&A? 
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#2827 (still thinking about planning on visualizing how to finish building)


Canceling this month's Q-Tour

Sam Hoskins
 

Matthew had some scheduling problems come up, so we're going to take a rest this month. We should be back on track in January.

Thanks all.

Sam Hoskins


Re: Gypsy Wind

smeshno1@...
 

 Not as forward crew, but performing customer check ride and pre delivery squawk flight in one of the first Falcon 50's (Anheuser-Busch always bought the first Falcon model release from Dassault); we were over Dardenelle Arkansas on the way back to Little Rock Adams Field (back then that was it's name) and that aircraft happened to be optioned with an aft cabin mach indicator.  Captain spooled all three engines in the decent dive and Oops! Somehow mach trim was offline and the aircraft leaped past 1.0.  Rock solid. I will swear on a stack of Continental crankshafts to the FAA we never could get that same error.

 It's quite possible I worked on your aircraft in the completion center.  The 10 is quite a nice aircraft. From my last factory gig, which was on the G280, I can attest the Gulfstream products are not even close...I have no idea why anyone would spend 45 million for one. I've been to Israel to support them also at IAI. Nice enough folks but not much impressed with the product.  


From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Robert Cringely <bob@...>
Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2020 3:49 PM
To: main@q-list.groups.io <main@q-list.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Gypsy Wind
 
Speaking of Falcons, 45 years ago I spent my weekends flying a Falcon 10 with British aerobatic champion and RAF test pilot Neil Williams. We mainly dashed from London to Paris and back. One dark night over the Channel Neil did a 1-G roll with customers in the back. Nobody noticed. Another time we went supersonic in a shallow dive and now body noticed that, either.  What a great airplane!

Bob

On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 1:36 PM Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote:

Cody,

 

You may be interested in reading about the kids that are building and flying at my home field in Western Colorado.

 

https://hawkaviators.org/

 

Cheers,
Jay

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of smeshno1@...
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2020 2:18 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Gypsy Wind

 

 It's easy at the airport to simply "see" an airplane. What is not thought of the man-YEARS it takes to build just one, not to mention the education of all that must be in place to support.

 

 Even an old hand in the big factories cannot help but be amazed at how an aircraft the size of a 777 is final assembled in 3 and one half days! Now of course the rate of build is slower. The NG 737 were being built and flown out of Seattle at one each 8.5 hours! And no two airliners are the same either.. the options list and various cabin configurations are vast. Engine packages as well.. the list goes on and on.   

 

 As a factory mechanic I never had to really understand the depth to accomplish these tasks, but as grass is green in Spring I understood really fast what happened if the rate was not met!! Still..most skills were gained not in the factory..but the hangars and shops of restoration or homebuilding. 

 

 I believe it is a very important task to open the eyes of youth to the fact that "things" in this world do not simply appear out of vaporware. Someone has to have the drive and interest to make real things happen.  Yes we can use current tools and we should, but the push in schools for only esoteric or theory leaves a lot to be done. 

 

 As I stated more than once.. I'm the Village Idiot. I was hired in several places and never stopped learning. Still am learning. Sometimes something in the past I learned can be useful but by no means do I consider myself knowledgeble

        

 


From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Cody <cody.craig1985@...>
Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2020 2:49 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Gypsy Wind

 

This!
This is why building this project is important to me. As well as making something that will hopefully outlive me in the long run, I want to build this the way I think it should be done. Access panels where they are actually needed etc etc.... Ive also been doing live feeds with some 7-12 graders on this build, to garner interest in maintenance. Everyone focuses on pilots, but what about the builders and maintainers? There's a lot of love for the industry not seen by the public. The story is missing half its heart.


Re: Gypsy Wind

Robert Cringely
 

Speaking of Falcons, 45 years ago I spent my weekends flying a Falcon 10 with British aerobatic champion and RAF test pilot Neil Williams. We mainly dashed from London to Paris and back. One dark night over the Channel Neil did a 1-G roll with customers in the back. Nobody noticed. Another time we went supersonic in a shallow dive and now body noticed that, either.  What a great airplane!

Bob

On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 1:36 PM Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote:

Cody,

 

You may be interested in reading about the kids that are building and flying at my home field in Western Colorado.

 

https://hawkaviators.org/

 

Cheers,
Jay

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of smeshno1@...
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2020 2:18 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Gypsy Wind

 

 It's easy at the airport to simply "see" an airplane. What is not thought of the man-YEARS it takes to build just one, not to mention the education of all that must be in place to support.

 

 Even an old hand in the big factories cannot help but be amazed at how an aircraft the size of a 777 is final assembled in 3 and one half days! Now of course the rate of build is slower. The NG 737 were being built and flown out of Seattle at one each 8.5 hours! And no two airliners are the same either.. the options list and various cabin configurations are vast. Engine packages as well.. the list goes on and on.   

 

 As a factory mechanic I never had to really understand the depth to accomplish these tasks, but as grass is green in Spring I understood really fast what happened if the rate was not met!! Still..most skills were gained not in the factory..but the hangars and shops of restoration or homebuilding. 

 

 I believe it is a very important task to open the eyes of youth to the fact that "things" in this world do not simply appear out of vaporware. Someone has to have the drive and interest to make real things happen.  Yes we can use current tools and we should, but the push in schools for only esoteric or theory leaves a lot to be done. 

 

 As I stated more than once.. I'm the Village Idiot. I was hired in several places and never stopped learning. Still am learning. Sometimes something in the past I learned can be useful but by no means do I consider myself knowledgeble

        

 


From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Cody <cody.craig1985@...>
Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2020 2:49 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Gypsy Wind

 

This!
This is why building this project is important to me. As well as making something that will hopefully outlive me in the long run, I want to build this the way I think it should be done. Access panels where they are actually needed etc etc.... Ive also been doing live feeds with some 7-12 graders on this build, to garner interest in maintenance. Everyone focuses on pilots, but what about the builders and maintainers? There's a lot of love for the industry not seen by the public. The story is missing half its heart.


Re: Gypsy Wind

Jay Scheevel
 

Cody,

 

You may be interested in reading about the kids that are building and flying at my home field in Western Colorado.

 

https://hawkaviators.org/

 

Cheers,
Jay

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of smeshno1@...
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2020 2:18 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Gypsy Wind

 

 It's easy at the airport to simply "see" an airplane. What is not thought of the man-YEARS it takes to build just one, not to mention the education of all that must be in place to support.

 

 Even an old hand in the big factories cannot help but be amazed at how an aircraft the size of a 777 is final assembled in 3 and one half days! Now of course the rate of build is slower. The NG 737 were being built and flown out of Seattle at one each 8.5 hours! And no two airliners are the same either.. the options list and various cabin configurations are vast. Engine packages as well.. the list goes on and on.   

 

 As a factory mechanic I never had to really understand the depth to accomplish these tasks, but as grass is green in Spring I understood really fast what happened if the rate was not met!! Still..most skills were gained not in the factory..but the hangars and shops of restoration or homebuilding. 

 

 I believe it is a very important task to open the eyes of youth to the fact that "things" in this world do not simply appear out of vaporware. Someone has to have the drive and interest to make real things happen.  Yes we can use current tools and we should, but the push in schools for only esoteric or theory leaves a lot to be done. 

 

 As I stated more than once.. I'm the Village Idiot. I was hired in several places and never stopped learning. Still am learning. Sometimes something in the past I learned can be useful but by no means do I consider myself knowledgeble

        

 


From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Cody <cody.craig1985@...>
Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2020 2:49 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Gypsy Wind

 

This!
This is why building this project is important to me. As well as making something that will hopefully outlive me in the long run, I want to build this the way I think it should be done. Access panels where they are actually needed etc etc.... Ive also been doing live feeds with some 7-12 graders on this build, to garner interest in maintenance. Everyone focuses on pilots, but what about the builders and maintainers? There's a lot of love for the industry not seen by the public. The story is missing half its heart.


Re: Gypsy Wind

smeshno1@...
 

 It's easy at the airport to simply "see" an airplane. What is not thought of the man-YEARS it takes to build just one, not to mention the education of all that must be in place to support.
 
 Even an old hand in the big factories cannot help but be amazed at how an aircraft the size of a 777 is final assembled in 3 and one half days! Now of course the rate of build is slower. The NG 737 were being built and flown out of Seattle at one each 8.5 hours! And no two airliners are the same either.. the options list and various cabin configurations are vast. Engine packages as well.. the list goes on and on.   

 As a factory mechanic I never had to really understand the depth to accomplish these tasks, but as grass is green in Spring I understood really fast what happened if the rate was not met!! Still..most skills were gained not in the factory..but the hangars and shops of restoration or homebuilding. 

 I believe it is a very important task to open the eyes of youth to the fact that "things" in this world do not simply appear out of vaporware. Someone has to have the drive and interest to make real things happen.  Yes we can use current tools and we should, but the push in schools for only esoteric or theory leaves a lot to be done. 

 As I stated more than once.. I'm the Village Idiot. I was hired in several places and never stopped learning. Still am learning. Sometimes something in the past I learned can be useful but by no means do I consider myself knowledgeble
        


From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Cody <cody.craig1985@...>
Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2020 2:49 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Gypsy Wind
 
This!
This is why building this project is important to me. As well as making something that will hopefully outlive me in the long run, I want to build this the way I think it should be done. Access panels where they are actually needed etc etc.... Ive also been doing live feeds with some 7-12 graders on this build, to garner interest in maintenance. Everyone focuses on pilots, but what about the builders and maintainers? There's a lot of love for the industry not seen by the public. The story is missing half its heart.


Re: Gypsy Wind

 

This!
This is why building this project is important to me. As well as making something that will hopefully outlive me in the long run, I want to build this the way I think it should be done. Access panels where they are actually needed etc etc.... Ive also been doing live feeds with some 7-12 graders on this build, to garner interest in maintenance. Everyone focuses on pilots, but what about the builders and maintainers? There's a lot of love for the industry not seen by the public. The story is missing half its heart.


Re: Gypsy Wind

smeshno1@...
 

 Most of the folks I worked with then have passed away now. Dale Bacon, Walter Underwood. Mike Shroyer. 

 I was a young 20 year old then..earned my Private Certificate at North Little Rock municipal at 22 years old and that was also where I had my first chance to see (and fly) a Q1.  Little did I know then I would be working with Rutan and RAF/Scaled Composites in just a few years in Wichita. 

 I have not kept up with Dassault at all since then. I was also on the HU-25A conversion team. The Falcon 10, 20, and 50 are built like tanks..I built Lears, Beech, Cessna's, and more than a few restorations all the way back to Golden Era. Falcons of those days are superior aircraft.  

  Met a lot of celebrities. Some not so good.  For example, I have kept my promise to myself I would never go to a Wendy's. Horrible reps and ugly as shit Interior to boot. The Bee Gees on the other hand were a blast to have with us. I was Lead tech on both aircraft.

  Here's a trick if you have squawks on the cabin polarized windows slipping on the knob. We used to file shallow "v" cuts with a triangle file in the edge of the rotating plexiglas so the rubber o-rings would grip better. Increasing the spring tension on the idler pully helps a bit also. A small detail but the owners really appreciate the windows working as designed. 

 When Falcon no longer won 1st prize at the airshows because we were forced to give up the one piece headliner for example,  Teterboro sent idiots with stop watches do "time study" so the time to complete would be less. That also ment a few extra touches like this one were no longer done in order to meet the brain dead on arrival Industrial Engineering time limits. Anyway..the opportunity at Beech made my exit all that more interesting. 

 Reminds me of a lot of things similar...like the 787 and 737 Max.  Everyone here should consider that as homebuilders ALL of us can far exceed the factory builts because of not being forced to pay Stox dividends. What a factory tech might have an advantage of is repetitive experience but the loss is the special touches and care of fit up. It is a freedom of building that NO factory person can comprehend...only dream about! Every one of you have much more in your heart than almost any aviation workerbee. Do every task on your bird the best you can..even the seemingly non important ones.       


From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Cody <cody.craig1985@...>
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 8:56 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Gypsy Wind
 
Vern! 
Actually that isn't a hangar mate per say... He's a customer. I work exclusively on "Legacy Falcons" here at Phoenix Rising. Honestly reading Dassaults reports the New ones suck. Lots of corrosion issues, where my babies fly forever provided someone lives them. Did you know Richard Price, or Karl Eisenmanger? Pete Kranick? My emails cody.craig1985@..., I work on all the smaller planes on the side, but main job is all about Falcons.  


Re: Gypsy Wind

 
Edited

Vern! 
Actually that isn't a hangar mate per say... He's a customer. I work exclusively on "Legacy Falcons" here at Phoenix Rising. Honestly reading Dassaults reports the New ones suck. Lots of corrosion issues, where my babies fly forever provided someone loves them. Did you know Richard Price, or Karl Eisenmanger? Pete Kranick? My emails cody.craig1985@..., I work on all the smaller planes on the side, but main job is all about Falcons.


Re: Gypsy Wind

Michael
 

B-to-the-A getting to use a heated paintbooth for layup parties mid-winter. Rock on!
--
-MD
#2827 (still thinking about planning on visualizing how to finish building)


Re: Ram Air Vent Tube and Pitot Tube Cover

Michael
 

Roll Your Own Pitot Tube Cover
Kitplanes, September 2016

-MD
#2827 (still thinking about planning on visualizing how to finish building)


Re: progress

Michael
 

On Sun, Dec 6, 2020 at 03:08 PM, Dorothea Keats wrote:
...because I had
jigging blocks attached to the bottom, I put the canard on the floor,
leveled it and installed the addition 1 degree of incidence and then
bondoed the blocks to the floor.  I've done this before and find it
easier to move the fuselage to the canard than to lift the canard to the
fuselage...

This is a fantastically insightful builder tip; especially considering that the fuselage isn't the part that needs to be perfectly level/square. Thanks for sharing!!
--
-MD
#2827 (still thinking about planning on visualizing how to finish building)


Re: Flight report

Kevin Boddicker
 

Dustin,
Glad you enjoyed it.
Now get to work!!! :-)))

Kevin

On Dec 7, 2020, at 7:21 AM, dustinlanell@... wrote:

I seldom write anything, but it's stories like this that keep me building.
Dustin Graber

On Dec 6, 2020 1:24 PM, Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...> wrote:
Living vicariously thru you two!  Say, isn’t 35 F like a heat wave in the northern climes?
Bruce


On Dec 6, 2020, at 11:45 AM, Rodney Herzig <zzigster@...> wrote:

 Thanks for sharing Kevin. I felt like I was right there with you guys 😎🍺

Rodney 


On Dec 6, 2020, at 6:35 AM, Jerry Marstall <jnmarstall@...> wrote:

 Great report Kev. Glad yo guys are sneaking in some air time between storms and cold. Jerry 

-------- Original message --------
From: Jay Scheevel <jay@...>
Date: 12/6/20 11:27 AM (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Flight report

Nice report, Kevin,

Thanks for the excellent visuals. You should become an author!

Cheers,
Jay

-----Original Message-----
From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Boddicker
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2020 7:19 AM
To: Q List <Q-List@groups.io>
Subject: [Q-List] Flight report

5 Dec 20

Recieved an email from Paul Fisher asking what I was doing. Flying somewhere I guess.
As it turned out Paul flew to DEH from DVN. Landed about 11:00 AM. He made a prefect landing. Calm winds and 35°F.
We had a bite of lunch as my plane was being preheated, fumed, preflighted.
High thin overcast clearing with breaks, so some sunshine. Important because the cockpit is a lot more comfortable with sunshine at this temp.
Fired up about 12:30PM.
Mission is to fly with Paul half way to DVN formation. Th twist is I was going to do the formation flying and Paul was going to lead.
We fly this way a lot, but I always lead. Only tried to follow once before, on the way home from FOD Emporia. We quickly changed as I didn’t preform well.
Not much change this time. Closest I got was 500’. Farthest was half mile. Being coached by Paul did help, but I think its best I stick to lead.
We parted ways and flew to our home airports.
Made a good landing myself!
Excellent day for flying, trying a new challenge, and enjoying the gift of aviation!!

Hope this spurs some activity from the group. Been too quite lately. Let’s hear it!!!





Kevin Boddicker
TriQ 200 N7868B   542 hrs
Luana, IA.




















Re: Gypsy Wind

smeshno1@...
 

 Cody.. maybe your hangar mate with the Falcon 20 better keep an eye on those sheepskin seat covers in the cockpit? 😉

 I was one of the Lead A&P at Falcon Jet on the Falcon 10, 20, and later 50 in Little Rock from 1977-1982.  When you get to 
chat in person I'll talk your ear off on stories at that setting if you're not careful. 

 Your twist in the shells not uncommon. My set are also..but structurally if not too extreme it's a non issue. To be truthful the twist was
probably right out of the fab tools.  Setting up as you have is the correct path. Be careful about washing to the foam edges when cleaning. The bond to the foam on either the IML or OML skins could be instantly compromised with a pressure washer. You will need to ruff sand back for the glass tape bonds a couple of inches from each shell edge anyway so I would hand clean those areas last.   

 I'd like to link e-mails if possible. My off site address is Smeshno1@... 

Vern      


From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Cody <cody.craig1985@...>
Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2020 6:23 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io>
Subject: [Q-List] Gypsy Wind
 
Gypsy Wind,

She is straightening up, lining out, showing smooth lines and feeling loved. I haven't laid fresh glass on her yet, when we fitted the shells together I noticed a 2 1/2" warp between the top and bottom fuselage shells. I decided I needed a laser level, 3ft steel rules, math and some straps. I started by slowly bending the bottom back into straight using lead shot bags and a spare battery. Checked my lines with the laser level and started marking waterline. Then I set the top down and ratchet strapped it straight. While everythings strapped and straight I figured I'd check the canopy cut lines. Close but not quite, so I cleaned up the previous cut and now the canopy "clicks" into place in the fuselage. I decided to mock in the firewall and FS94 bulkhead and Mark where I need to sand and clean for fresh glass. Next step is to pressure wash the shells and get all the dirt, grime, mold, etc out of there. Once Gypsy is prepped, we plan on a layup party on a Friday night in the paint booth. I can keep her at a nice 80-90 degrees until Sunday and then set her back in the cold shop. 


Re: Ram Air Vent Tube and Pitot Tube Cover

Corbin
 

Ahh....thanks!  I will hunt that article down this week!
--

Corbin 
N33QR


Re: Ram Air Vent Tube and Pitot Tube Cover

Michael
 

Corbin,

If you subscribe to Kitplanes, they actually had a DIY article on how to make your own covers a few years back.
--
-MD
#2827 (still thinking about planning on visualizing how to finish building)


Re: Flight report

Dustin Graber
 

I seldom write anything, but it's stories like this that keep me building.
Dustin Graber

On Dec 6, 2020 1:24 PM, Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...> wrote:
Living vicariously thru you two!  Say, isn’t 35 F like a heat wave in the northern climes?
Bruce


On Dec 6, 2020, at 11:45 AM, Rodney Herzig <zzigster@...> wrote:

 Thanks for sharing Kevin. I felt like I was right there with you guys 😎🍺

Rodney 


On Dec 6, 2020, at 6:35 AM, Jerry Marstall <jnmarstall@...> wrote:

 Great report Kev. Glad yo guys are sneaking in some air time between storms and cold. Jerry 

-------- Original message --------
From: Jay Scheevel <jay@...>
Date: 12/6/20 11:27 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Flight report

Nice report, Kevin,

Thanks for the excellent visuals. You should become an author!

Cheers,
Jay

-----Original Message-----
From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Boddicker
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2020 7:19 AM
To: Q List <Q-List@groups.io>
Subject: [Q-List] Flight report

5 Dec 20

Recieved an email from Paul Fisher asking what I was doing. Flying somewhere I guess.
As it turned out Paul flew to DEH from DVN. Landed about 11:00 AM. He made a prefect landing. Calm winds and 35°F.
We had a bite of lunch as my plane was being preheated, fumed, preflighted.
High thin overcast clearing with breaks, so some sunshine. Important because the cockpit is a lot more comfortable with sunshine at this temp.
Fired up about 12:30PM.
Mission is to fly with Paul half way to DVN formation. Th twist is I was going to do the formation flying and Paul was going to lead.
We fly this way a lot, but I always lead. Only tried to follow once before, on the way home from FOD Emporia. We quickly changed as I didn’t preform well.
Not much change this time. Closest I got was 500’. Farthest was half mile. Being coached by Paul did help, but I think its best I stick to lead.
We parted ways and flew to our home airports.
Made a good landing myself!
Excellent day for flying, trying a new challenge, and enjoying the gift of aviation!!

Hope this spurs some activity from the group. Been too quite lately. Let’s hear it!!!





Kevin Boddicker
TriQ 200 N7868B   542 hrs
Luana, IA.


















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