Re: reflex
Heavily dependent on your decalage. High speed cruise and I use full reflex trailing edge down (6 degrees), but I have -1.5 decalage on my wing setup, meaning my wing is 1.5 degrees leading edge down relative to canard. I almost never set reflexor trailing edge up.
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Those Q drivers that have positive decalage setups almost never set reflex to trailing edge down. They always fly with reflexor trailing edge up, for the most part. I mounted my verticals with reflexor neutral and ailerons in trail. Works fine. Cheers, Jay
On Jan 2, 2021, at 1:19 PM, Dorothea Keats <dkeats@tbaytel.net> wrote:
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Chris Walterson
I am about to install the upright control tubes for the ailerons. I also have a reflexor. Should the reflexor be in the nuetral position when the tubes are installed or some other position?. Is there ever a time when the ailerons are reflexed up more than a touch?
My other airplane I fly with the ailerons set to be up a bit and it gives me a little more cruise, and then the reflexor is used for landing and when flying heavy. Wondering if the Q200 is similar? Thanks and have a good year---------------- Chris -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
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Re: New Years Day Flight Report
Sam Kittle
Hi Jay,
Now we call it Sierra Cement.
Happy New Year! Sam K
From: main@Q-List.groups.io [mailto:main@Q-List.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jay Scheevel
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 7:20 AM To: main@Q-List.groups.io Subject: Re: [Q-List] New Years Day Flight Report
Great Pictures, Jim. Glad you were able to get in the air and meet up with Sam, and give us a little taste of the Sierra! We used to call the wet snow out there, Sierra Sludge. Not sure if that is still a popular term.
Cheers, Jay
From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Patillo
On Fri, Jan 1, 2021 at 09:10 PM, Jim Patillo wrote:
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Terry Adams
Keith,
I have a plane with mechanical (Airflow Performance) and a plane with electronic (SDS) fuel injection so my opinion may be limited.� I especially question the sentence in the article "Fuel-injected engines also mix fuel and air, but sometimes by misadjustment, wear, manufacturing or design defect or material failure, fuel is able to leak through a seal that separates the fuel from the air in the injector servo". Not likely.� This definitely is not happening with electronic fuel injection in that typically the fuel is never in the induction system until it is injected in the cylinder.� This would be a long shot on the Airflow Performance even though the fuel is technically in the servo then injected directly in the cylinder after the fuel divider. Slide throttle "injectors" like the Ellison or AeroCarb are a whole different animal. Terry Adams
KSCK On 1/2/2021 7:52 AM, Keith Welsh wrote:
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Hi Keith,
Thanks for the link. Interesting stuff about the Teflon. It certainly has the potential to get the droplets much smaller. Not sure if smaller droplets would keep them from freezing though. Just might make it a more uniform coating. When it goes from liquid to solid is a function of primarily temperature, but there are a few other factors associated with agitation and even electrical charge, but the primary influence is temperature and to a lesser degree pressure.
It is interesting to hear that you encountered your serious carb ice issue in the summer. I also had a similar experience flying from Winona Minnesota to see a friend of mine in Lafayette Indiana in June a number of years ago. I was flying down the Mississippi river, maybe 2500 feet AGL and I noticed I was having trouble holding my altitude, as I kept trimming it up. I had a constant speed prop, so revs remained constant so all sounded good, then I glanced down at the MP guage and saw like 15 inches! Yikes. I hit the carb heat, and almost killed the engine, probably when a big chunk broke loose. This was a big Lycoming 540 with the intake buried in the oil pan. It was in the mid 60’s (F) outside and thin overcast about 1500 feet above me. Not when I would expect ice, but there it was. Of course there are other possibilities: Maybe planes flying to or from Indiana are more prone to ice than other planes. 😊
Happy New Year, Keith.
Cheers, Jay
From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Keith Welsh
Hello everyone, I hope y'all had a great bringing in of the new year.
I've attached an article I read about once every five years or so regarding carb icing. We all know about carb ice and the danger it poses. I experienced it years ago in my then Aeronca Chief when, in the summer, the engine stopped producing power on final. At least it would not throttle up when flaring to land and stopped on touchdown. After setting a bit she started just fine...by hand propping of course.
The highlighted area toward the end of the article gets my curiosity up and is what I would like your opinions on since many of you are much smarter than I. The reason for asking is that somewhere in the 90's I had the throttle shaft, throttle plate and intake manifold teflon coated on my Quickie and this article is where it all started.
One hot humid day back then while looking down the carburetor with the engine running I was surprised at the amount of water that was forming on the throttle plate, the size of the droplets and the time it took for them to run off. Onan carbs are on the top of the engine as most know. I found a company in Indy that did industrial teflon coating, Keco Coatings, and they are still there and this is their website https://www.kecocoatings.com/coatings/teflon/ After the Teflon coating was done the water still formed but with a notable difference. The droplets were miniature sized and it was like a contest to see who could run off the throttle plate first. Very impressive.
I've never sought the opinion of others regarding this article but knowing the breath of knowledge among you Q guys I thought I'd reach out and see.
Thanks for taking the time. Keith N494K
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Bruce McCormack
Is it similar to what Rain-X or Durapel does to your windshield?
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On 2Jan, 2021, at 9:52, Keith Welsh <klw544@...> wrote: Hello everyone,
I hope y'all had a great bringing in of the new year.
I've attached an article I read about once every five years or so regarding carb icing.
We all know about carb ice and the danger it poses. I experienced it years ago in my then Aeronca Chief when, in the summer, the engine stopped producing power on final. At least it would not throttle up when flaring to land and stopped on touchdown. After setting a bit she started just fine...by hand propping of course.
The highlighted area toward the end of the article gets my curiosity up and is what I would like your opinions on since many of you are much smarter than I.
The reason for asking is that somewhere in the 90's I had the throttle shaft, throttle plate and intake manifold teflon coated on my Quickie and this article is where it all started.
One hot humid day back then while looking down the carburetor with the engine running I was surprised at the amount of water that was forming on the throttle plate, the size of the droplets and the time it took for them to run off. Onan carbs are on the top of the engine as most know.
I found a company in Indy that did industrial teflon coating, Keco Coatings, and they are still there and this is their website https://www.kecocoatings.com/coatings/teflon/
After the Teflon coating was done the water still formed but with a notable difference. The droplets were miniature sized and it was like a contest to see who could run off the throttle plate first. Very impressive.
I've never sought the opinion of others regarding this article but knowing the breath of knowledge among you Q guys I thought I'd reach out and see.
Thanks for taking the time.
Keith
N494K
<INDUCTION ICING STUDY.doc>
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Hello everyone,
I hope y'all had a great bringing in of the new year.
I've attached an article I read about once every five years or so regarding carb icing.
We all know about carb ice and the danger it poses. I experienced it years ago in my then Aeronca Chief when, in the summer, the engine stopped producing power on final. At least it would not throttle up when flaring to land and stopped on touchdown. After setting a bit she started just fine...by hand propping of course.
The highlighted area toward the end of the article gets my curiosity up and is what I would like your opinions on since many of you are much smarter than I.
The reason for asking is that somewhere in the 90's I had the throttle shaft, throttle plate and intake manifold teflon coated on my Quickie and this article is where it all started.
One hot humid day back then while looking down the carburetor with the engine running I was surprised at the amount of water that was forming on the throttle plate, the size of the droplets and the time it took for them to run off. Onan carbs are on the top of the engine as most know.
I found a company in Indy that did industrial teflon coating, Keco Coatings, and they are still there and this is their website https://www.kecocoatings.com/coatings/teflon/
After the Teflon coating was done the water still formed but with a notable difference. The droplets were miniature sized and it was like a contest to see who could run off the throttle plate first. Very impressive.
I've never sought the opinion of others regarding this article but knowing the breath of knowledge among you Q guys I thought I'd reach out and see.
Thanks for taking the time.
Keith
N494K
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Great Pictures, Jim. Glad you were able to get in the air and meet up with Sam, and give us a little taste of the Sierra! We used to call the wet snow out there, Sierra Sludge. Not sure if that is still a popular term.
Cheers, Jay
From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Patillo
On Fri, Jan 1, 2021 at 09:10 PM, Jim Patillo wrote:
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Dave Dugas
Great videos jay. You have beautiful scenery in them.
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Nice report also to both you and Jim Patillo. I liked yours to Jerry.... I flew yesterday also and videoed it. I'll post my YouTube link once I get done editing it. Happy New Year
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Jerry Marstall <jnmarstall@...>
Great ride. Thx Jim
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My Q is down. Radio crapped out. Jan 1 will have to come later for me.
-------- Original message -------- From: Jim Patillo <Logistics_engineering@...> Date: 1/2/21 12:10 AM (GMT-05:00) To: main@Q-List.groups.io Subject: Re: [Q-List] New Years Day Flight Report
Met up with Sam Kittle in his Mighty Luscombe hovering at 9000’ over Bear Valley 60 miles south. He brought along another friend, Larry in his RV. We circled the area, admired then scenery and headed over to Calaveras, landing RWY13. The pictures are from Sam’s and Larry’s planes. Sam Invited me into the FBO for a good hot cup of coffee and conversation. I gave Kathy, the airport manager (whom I’ve known for a long time, she’s 80 now and still an active pilot) a hug and jumped in the plane for the trip back home. Departed the runway but stayed in the pattern for one fast pass. It was kinda quiet today so I wanted to wake the cows up. Landed Auburn about 20 minutes later, came home and had a cocktail. It was a fun ride. Jim
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On Fri, Jan 1, 2021 at 09:10 PM, Jim Patillo wrote:
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Met up with Sam Kittle in his Mighty Luscombe hovering at 9000’ over Bear Valley 60 miles south. He brought along another friend, Larry in his RV. We circled the area, admired then scenery and headed over to Calaveras, landing RWY13. The pictures are from Sam’s and Larry’s planes. Sam Invited me into the FBO for a good hot cup of coffee and conversation. I gave Kathy, the airport manager (whom I’ve known for a long time, she’s 80 now and still an active pilot) a hug and jumped in the plane for the trip back home. Departed the runway but stayed in the pattern for one fast pass. It was kinda quiet today so I wanted to wake the cows up. Landed Auburn about 20 minutes later, came home and had a cocktail. It was a fun ride. Jim
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Jerry Marstall <jnmarstall@...>
Very nice! Jerry
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-------- Original message -------- From: Jay Scheevel <jay@...> Date: 1/1/21 8:23 PM (GMT-05:00) To: main@Q-List.groups.io Subject: [Q-List] New Years Day Flight Report Well, I finally have been able to take advantage of good weather on New Years Day and get a flight in. What a nice flight it was. Dead calm on the ground and very smooth in the air. A few degrees below freezing on take off in the early afternoon. We had some snow earlier in the week, so there was lots of snow around my airport, but taxiways and runway were clear and dry for nice takeoff and landing. When I first took off, I headed south to go over the Interstate (70), then over the Colorado river. It was a very nice view with the snow combined with the pink sandstone cliffs along the river. I made a partial turn with rudder only, holding my camera phone and taking short video while looking out the right side of the plane. I was surprised when I looked back at the ball and it seemed to be pretty coordinated using just rudder. Maybe I will try this more often. I then turned SE and followed the Colorado river, to the Junction of the Gunnison then along the Gunnison river canyon to about 40 miles southeast of Grand Junction and took another short video out the left side of the plane. The distant peaks are the West Elk mountains near Crested Butte and the large dark mountain is the Grand Mesa southeast of Grand Junction, which is a very scenic, flat topped mountain at 10,500’ I loaded the two short videos to YouTube. Hope you enjoy the flight as much as I did.
Cheers, Jay Scheevel, Quickie Tri-Q2 N8WQ, 126 hours.
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Hi Mike,
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Thanks. Happy New Year! I put that hot air duct in from the start of my building the cockpit but have not needed it yet. I live in a pretty dry climate, so not that unexpected but I figure when/if I do need it sometime I will be happy to have it. Cheers, Jay
On Jan 1, 2021, at 8:12 PM, Mike Dwyer <q200pilot@...> wrote:
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Mike Dwyer
Great report Jay. Really sharp videos too. Have you ever had the canopy fog or freeze over. I saw you had some kind of canopy heater. It was way too windy here for fun flying. Well done. Mike
On Fri, Jan 1, 2021, 8:23 PM Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote:
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Well, I finally have been able to take advantage of good weather on New Years Day and get a flight in. What a nice flight it was. Dead calm on the ground and very smooth in the air. A few degrees below freezing on take off in the early afternoon. We had some snow earlier in the week, so there was lots of snow around my airport, but taxiways and runway were clear and dry for nice takeoff and landing. When I first took off, I headed south to go over the Interstate (70), then over the Colorado river. It was a very nice view with the snow combined with the pink sandstone cliffs along the river. I made a partial turn with rudder only, holding my camera phone and taking short video while looking out the right side of the plane. I was surprised when I looked back at the ball and it seemed to be pretty coordinated using just rudder. Maybe I will try this more often. I then turned SE and followed the Colorado river, to the Junction of the Gunnison then along the Gunnison river canyon to about 40 miles southeast of Grand Junction and took another short video out the left side of the plane. The distant peaks are the West Elk mountains near Crested Butte and the large dark mountain is the Grand Mesa southeast of Grand Junction, which is a very scenic, flat topped mountain at 10,500’ I loaded the two short videos to YouTube. Hope you enjoy the flight as much as I did.
Cheers, Jay Scheevel, Quickie Tri-Q2 N8WQ, 126 hours.
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Hi Mike, Glad to see you are still experimenting, thats what it is all about. Great report. Thanks for the encouragement. I hope the New Year
will be better than last. Rich T.
On 30/12/2020 21:53, Mike Dwyer wrote:
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You’re politically correct Jim, probably felt like a beating. Lol
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Mike
On Dec 30, 2020, at 9:23 PM, Paul Poulsen <paul.poulsen1957@...> wrote:
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Paul Poulsen
Well done again Mike :) Thanks for the video, 8/8 cu with TS due tonight...and this is Summer :) All the best Paul
On Thu, Dec 31, 2020 at 8:54 AM Mike Dwyer <q200pilot@...> wrote:
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Didn’t you mean to say”take a licking and keep on ticking”. It sounds much more civilized! Just sayin’😊
Jim
N46JP Q200
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From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Mike via groups.io <n7000t@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2020 3:54:07 PM To: main@q-list.groups.io <main@q-list.groups.io> Subject: Re: [Q-List] Flight report Good to hear she can take a beating and keep on ticking!
Any chance of you putting out a video when your tablet is operating and to see how it looks?
Thanks
Mike
On Dec 30, 2020, at 1:54 PM, Mike Dwyer <q200pilot@...> wrote:
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