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Re: N96BJ Flight

John Hoxie
 

Vern,
I am down in the southern part of New Mexico at KALM.

JOHN


On Sat, Feb 27, 2021 at 11:20 AM, smeshno1@...
<smeshno1@...> wrote:
 How bad was the homestead when you arrived? Just today the water mains in Tulsa were finally repaired.. Out here in the sticks we are on a water catchment system I built backed up by a well I drilled last Summer. No water problems but my electric bill is probably going to be a bit extreme. Need to get PV back on a roof. I lived off grid for over 20 years in Taos County...so I know the limitations and potentials. I've been to Angel Fire many times...Taos, Crested Butte,.. lots of skiing. Its a beautiful airport at Angel Fire.     

Which is your preference for X-wind landings, Bruce. Forward slip all through Final or do you crab angle and then align to the
runway? X-wind Pilot techniques were taught both ways in my Student times... Instructor presented both. 
 
 I ask because the various types of aircraft make the Approach to landing different. I am wondering specifically the change (if any) in Tri Q compared to taildragger version.  

 I learned both and most of the time use forward slip. I do this because early in the approach it's mostly known what the ability of the aircraft is to fly the X-wind component at that airport at the time.  The risk of course is strict airspeed maintenance because I'm cross controlled at low altitude.  

Glad your back and safe.  Does your RV have the added gussets on the gear tubes? This months Kitplanes has a very good article on the topic. 

Vern


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Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2021 6:26 PM
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Subject: [Q-List] N96BJ Flight
 
After flying 14 hours in our RV 6 to Angel Fire, NM, Pampa, TX, Phoenix, AZ to see grandkids, ski and spend a week in a Time Share I pulled out the TriQ 200.  I flew to Stillwater to see my brother Kirby and get the engine warmed up and water cooked off.  Great landings both airports and when I returned to Enid the wind had shifted to 240.  The best runway was 170 so 70 degree crosswind with wind at 18 knots gusting to 27 knots!  I lowered the right wing andr pushed left rudder and put the right main down 1st with the other 2 following quickly.  Seemed good and the tower came on and said “you handled that crosswind nicely”!  I told him the TriQ handled crosswinds much better than my taildraggin’ RV because of the smaller rudder.  It doesn’t weathervane into the wind so much!  The temperature was around 65 F which is a 70 degree difference from the week before and “Snowklahoma”!  We weren’t able to get home during that snowstorm from Angel Fire and Pampa so we cancelled our commercial flight to Phoenix and flew the RV 6!  The trip home over the hump east of Phoenix had a wonderful tailwind and we saw ground speeds of 235 mph!  Take that United.  Home in a little over 4 hours with a picnic lunch in Tucumcari, NM!  (We packed sandwiches because Tucumcari doesn’t have a courtesy car).

Thus far I have only logged 2.5 hrs in the TriQ this year.  That just ain’t right!  Gotta do better!  Come on “Spring Fling”!  Kevin please don’t mention the worthless cross wind landing I had last year.  Just our little secret.  😘
Bruce Crain
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Re: N96BJ Flight

Frankenbird Vern
 

 It's not much fun being the second time I've built my (our) domicile, but getting to the interior decorating part is
at least making it look like some progress being made. Most of the systems work is done now.  Lara has to go back to 
her birth nation to assist her Mom and get her dental and medical work up to date, and go thru the bureaucratic maze 
to obtain her new overseas Passport before it expires.

 She will be leaving end of October and I have orders to complete the home before her return to the States by March 2022..
or else!!  I agree with her point.  After then I can do all the other in sequence. 

 My mom used to tell me "don't be lazy!"  Since about 13 years old I have been staying active to say the least. Definitely 
no time for video games. At the same time I can't get too crazy spending on these projects.. now I am drawing only 
Pensions. 

  $1400 in the coming Biden Bux goes to Aeroflot Airlines!  I can't get a Visa now anyway. Maybe by Autumn that will change
but I have my doubts. We went to church in Jones yesterday and our Priest there also was wondering how the logistics of
International travel will work over the next year or so. Right now it's not in the cards for me to travel overseas as much as I 
would like to.        


From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...>
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2021 7:02 PM
To: main@q-list.groups.io <main@q-list.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] N96BJ Flight
 
You’re makin’ me tired just thinking of all the work you have going on!
Bruce


On Feb 28, 2021, at 6:45 PM, smeshno1@... wrote:


It's called the "Cottage" and it is the home I am building from ground up..almost zero... there was a garage slab at the location and from that I began building a two story "mother in law".. 1bd, 1 bath.  two car garage below and the living space above. 

 Our camper is now "home"..not much room but better than a tent. 

 I have started on the hangar... The Q2 surfaces are in the garage ceiling and fuselage shells covered in a temp car shelter (Shelter Logic).   
 With any luck.. FOD 2024 might see us taxi in. 

 All the bulkheads for the fuselage are fabbed complete.. the canopy is fitted and glassed in. The Canard and Wing are both complete and in white.  For metal parts..I have all the engine, instruments, and landing gear (all new from the tires up). For remaining glass work I'll need to fab the Vertical Stab and Rudder, Ailerons and "flaps/elevators".  So in short the tuff glass fabrication is done, that being the flight surfaces. The fuselage is not joined..I have all the plywood tools to join the shells with the FS marked on them.

 A complete set of plans and all invoices from RAF (day 1)..including letters to and from the first purchaser of the Q2 kit. Every newsletter and every mod sketch..both in paper and CD.         

 I have more time to actually build now too..so the home projects are moving faster than when I was at the G280 program in Tulsa working long hours. The G280 Wing went away with Corona Virus...to South Korea.      


From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...>
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2021 4:57 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] N96BJ Flight
 
Any time frame for completion of "Frankenbird"?  Inquiring minds want to know.  It would sure be great to see you taxi up at FOD this year!  I don't suppose the weather has been conducive to squeeging fiberglass resin.  But Spring is coming and the temps will be perfect!  I concur that Cushing would be a great place to test fly it.  I've been into Pogue and didn't like to surroundings and approach.  It is a bit unsettling to me.
What are you working on currently?
Bruce

---------- Original Message ----------
From: smeshno1@...
To: "main@Q-List.groups.io" <main@Q-List.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] N96BJ Flight
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2021 22:48:02 +0000

 It was a bit uncomfortable for a while. Not much done outside I'll say. 
 
I learned to ski back in the late 60's on "Cascade Concrete". We lived in Arlington Washington and the high school there didn't have a football team, but did have a ski and track team. Coach took us to Mt Pilchuck (closed down years ago now)... and told me I couldn't turn worth beans..too slow on my edges..so I ended up racing downhill. My knees paid the price..not too bad but still I feel them from time to time.  
 
 The whole Northern New Mexico scene has changed drastically. When I first moved there in 1997 it was a LOT backward. Anyway..in 2017 Lara and I sold off our 50 acres with the Earthship I built and decided Green Country Oklahoma was a lot better for her gardening efforts (and our retirement pension dollars as well!). It was a good choice for us.. we are both much happier here.
 
 I have been drawn to Cushing for the 40 hour testing..but we are closer to Bristow. As you know most of the time we have North/South winds but less so here in the Tulsa area. I figure Cushing is a much better testing base..but I do want to have the aircraft closer. Pogue in Sand Springs is a nice airport in itself, but lots of hills and trees so not many places to choose from in emergency landing. 
 
  Frankenbird's canard and wingspan is 18 feet..same as Q2. I figure since it has the GU airfoil, it will probably fly similar to any other MKII Q2 with the same airfoil. The difference being construction of the Canard and Wing are Dragonfly.. the wing has the D-fly turtledeck...so both surface bolt to the Q2 bulkheads. Because I will be using a three blade prop with the same deck angle on the ramp as any other Q2 I'm not concerned that there will be a prop tip clearance problem. The aircraft will look pretty much as any other Q2 would externally, but imagine it with your RV6 gear. 
 
 Some of the specific changes I am doing deal more with what I learned in the aircraft factory life I fortunatly endured..and some from owner reports..accident reports..additions that any could choose to do if they had the same concerns as I.  Got lots to learn tho..and that is why it is a worthwhile effort. I approached every aircraft program I was assigned to as the Village Idiot, and then let the folks around me decide if I had anything to contribute. Most of the time I stayed the Idiot..but got paid pretty decent wages for doing so :-) 

Vern        
 
 

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Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2021 3:56 PM
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Subject: Re: [Q-List] N96BJ Flight
 
Hi Vern!
Glad  you made it through Snowklahoma!  It was warmer in Angel Fire than Enid when we were there.  Took off in a big crosswind from Angel Fire and an glad to be able to  use the RV again!  One of those never again things ya know!  I've been into Taos on one or two occasions and love having a cross runway there.  Angel Fire needs one badly!  Big safety factor!  The have lost lots of aircraft especially under powered or pilots forgot to lean out!  
 
I don't really think of forward slips much except to slow the TriQ down a bit.  I try to come in over the numbers flat like I am sitting on the runway so the nose doesn't get to high.  If you come in with the nose high you are going to fast.  If the nose if above the horizon much it will pay of and give you some bounces.  Of course the Dragonfly may work differently so go cautiously!  I usually try to hold the upwind wing down and opposite rudder as sometimes in a gust crabbing can make  you go airborne again.  Your mileage may vary though so if you are used to crabbing it might work well for you.  When you get the "Frankenbird" flying you will need to test it at small increments at 1st.    How's that for no commitment!  wink
 
Yep the  main gears have the stiffeners. 
Bruce

---------- Original Message ----------
From: smeshno1@...
To: "main@Q-List.groups.io" <main@Q-List.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] N96BJ Flight
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2021 18:20:39 +0000

 

 How bad was the homestead when you arrived? Just today the water mains in Tulsa were finally repaired.. Out here in the sticks we are on a water catchment system I built backed up by a well I drilled last Summer. No water problems but my electric bill is probably going to be a bit extreme. Need to get PV back on a roof. I lived off grid for over 20 years in Taos County...so I know the limitations and potentials. I've been to Angel Fire many times...Taos, Crested Butte,.. lots of skiing. Its a beautiful airport at Angel Fire.     
 
Which is your preference for X-wind landings, Bruce. Forward slip all through Final or do you crab angle and then align to the
runway? X-wind Pilot techniques were taught both ways in my Student times... Instructor presented both. 
 
 I ask because the various types of aircraft make the Approach to landing different. I am wondering specifically the change (if any) in Tri Q compared to taildragger version.  
 
 I learned both and most of the time use forward slip. I do this because early in the approach it's mostly known what the ability of the aircraft is to fly the X-wind component at that airport at the time.  The risk of course is strict airspeed maintenance because I'm cross controlled at low altitude.  
 
Glad your back and safe.  Does your RV have the added gussets on the gear tubes? This months Kitplanes has a very good article on the topic. 
 
Vern
 
 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...>
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2021 6:26 PM
To: main@q-list.groups.io <main@q-list.groups.io>
Subject: [Q-List] N96BJ Flight
 
After flying 14 hours in our RV 6 to Angel Fire, NM, Pampa, TX, Phoenix, AZ to see grandkids, ski and spend a week in a Time Share I pulled out the TriQ 200.  I flew to Stillwater to see my brother Kirby and get the engine warmed up and water cooked off.  Great landings both airports and when I returned to Enid the wind had shifted to 240.  The best runway was 170 so 70 degree crosswind with wind at 18 knots gusting to 27 knots!  I lowered the right wing andr pushed left rudder and put the right main down 1st with the other 2 following quickly.  Seemed good and the tower came on and said “you handled that crosswind nicely”!  I told him the TriQ handled crosswinds much better than my taildraggin’ RV because of the smaller rudder.  It doesn’t weathervane into the wind so much!  The temperature was around 65 F which is a 70 degree difference from the week before and “Snowklahoma”!  We weren’t able to get home during that snowstorm from Angel Fire and Pampa so we cancelled our commercial flight to Phoenix and flew the RV 6!  The trip home over the hump east of Phoenix had a wonderful tailwind and we saw ground speeds of 235 mph!  Take that United.  Home in a little over 4 hours with a picnic lunch in Tucumcari, NM!  (We packed sandwiches because Tucumcari doesn’t have a courtesy car).

Thus far I have only logged 2.5 hrs in the TriQ this year.  That just ain’t right!  Gotta do better!  Come on “Spring Fling”!  Kevin please don’t mention the worthless cross wind landing I had last year.  Just our little secret.  😘
Bruce Crain
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Re: N96BJ Flight

Bruce Crain
 

You’re makin’ me tired just thinking of all the work you have going on!
Bruce


On Feb 28, 2021, at 6:45 PM, smeshno1@... wrote:


It's called the "Cottage" and it is the home I am building from ground up..almost zero... there was a garage slab at the location and from that I began building a two story "mother in law".. 1bd, 1 bath.  two car garage below and the living space above. 

 Our camper is now "home"..not much room but better than a tent. 

 I have started on the hangar... The Q2 surfaces are in the garage ceiling and fuselage shells covered in a temp car shelter (Shelter Logic).   
 With any luck.. FOD 2024 might see us taxi in. 

 All the bulkheads for the fuselage are fabbed complete.. the canopy is fitted and glassed in. The Canard and Wing are both complete and in white.  For metal parts..I have all the engine, instruments, and landing gear (all new from the tires up). For remaining glass work I'll need to fab the Vertical Stab and Rudder, Ailerons and "flaps/elevators".  So in short the tuff glass fabrication is done, that being the flight surfaces. The fuselage is not joined..I have all the plywood tools to join the shells with the FS marked on them.

 A complete set of plans and all invoices from RAF (day 1)..including letters to and from the first purchaser of the Q2 kit. Every newsletter and every mod sketch..both in paper and CD.         

 I have more time to actually build now too..so the home projects are moving faster than when I was at the G280 program in Tulsa working long hours. The G280 Wing went away with Corona Virus...to South Korea.      


From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...>
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2021 4:57 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] N96BJ Flight
 
Any time frame for completion of "Frankenbird"?  Inquiring minds want to know.  It would sure be great to see you taxi up at FOD this year!  I don't suppose the weather has been conducive to squeeging fiberglass resin.  But Spring is coming and the temps will be perfect!  I concur that Cushing would be a great place to test fly it.  I've been into Pogue and didn't like to surroundings and approach.  It is a bit unsettling to me.
What are you working on currently?
Bruce

---------- Original Message ----------
From: smeshno1@...
To: "main@Q-List.groups.io" <main@Q-List.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] N96BJ Flight
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2021 22:48:02 +0000

 It was a bit uncomfortable for a while. Not much done outside I'll say. 
 
I learned to ski back in the late 60's on "Cascade Concrete". We lived in Arlington Washington and the high school there didn't have a football team, but did have a ski and track team. Coach took us to Mt Pilchuck (closed down years ago now)... and told me I couldn't turn worth beans..too slow on my edges..so I ended up racing downhill. My knees paid the price..not too bad but still I feel them from time to time.  
 
 The whole Northern New Mexico scene has changed drastically. When I first moved there in 1997 it was a LOT backward. Anyway..in 2017 Lara and I sold off our 50 acres with the Earthship I built and decided Green Country Oklahoma was a lot better for her gardening efforts (and our retirement pension dollars as well!). It was a good choice for us.. we are both much happier here.
 
 I have been drawn to Cushing for the 40 hour testing..but we are closer to Bristow. As you know most of the time we have North/South winds but less so here in the Tulsa area. I figure Cushing is a much better testing base..but I do want to have the aircraft closer. Pogue in Sand Springs is a nice airport in itself, but lots of hills and trees so not many places to choose from in emergency landing. 
 
  Frankenbird's canard and wingspan is 18 feet..same as Q2. I figure since it has the GU airfoil, it will probably fly similar to any other MKII Q2 with the same airfoil. The difference being construction of the Canard and Wing are Dragonfly.. the wing has the D-fly turtledeck...so both surface bolt to the Q2 bulkheads. Because I will be using a three blade prop with the same deck angle on the ramp as any other Q2 I'm not concerned that there will be a prop tip clearance problem. The aircraft will look pretty much as any other Q2 would externally, but imagine it with your RV6 gear. 
 
 Some of the specific changes I am doing deal more with what I learned in the aircraft factory life I fortunatly endured..and some from owner reports..accident reports..additions that any could choose to do if they had the same concerns as I.  Got lots to learn tho..and that is why it is a worthwhile effort. I approached every aircraft program I was assigned to as the Village Idiot, and then let the folks around me decide if I had anything to contribute. Most of the time I stayed the Idiot..but got paid pretty decent wages for doing so :-) 

Vern        
 
 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...>
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2021 3:56 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] N96BJ Flight
 
Hi Vern!
Glad  you made it through Snowklahoma!  It was warmer in Angel Fire than Enid when we were there.  Took off in a big crosswind from Angel Fire and an glad to be able to  use the RV again!  One of those never again things ya know!  I've been into Taos on one or two occasions and love having a cross runway there.  Angel Fire needs one badly!  Big safety factor!  The have lost lots of aircraft especially under powered or pilots forgot to lean out!  
 
I don't really think of forward slips much except to slow the TriQ down a bit.  I try to come in over the numbers flat like I am sitting on the runway so the nose doesn't get to high.  If you come in with the nose high you are going to fast.  If the nose if above the horizon much it will pay of and give you some bounces.  Of course the Dragonfly may work differently so go cautiously!  I usually try to hold the upwind wing down and opposite rudder as sometimes in a gust crabbing can make  you go airborne again.  Your mileage may vary though so if you are used to crabbing it might work well for you.  When you get the "Frankenbird" flying you will need to test it at small increments at 1st.    How's that for no commitment!  wink
 
Yep the  main gears have the stiffeners. 
Bruce

---------- Original Message ----------
From: smeshno1@...
To: "main@Q-List.groups.io" <main@Q-List.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] N96BJ Flight
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2021 18:20:39 +0000

 

 How bad was the homestead when you arrived? Just today the water mains in Tulsa were finally repaired.. Out here in the sticks we are on a water catchment system I built backed up by a well I drilled last Summer. No water problems but my electric bill is probably going to be a bit extreme. Need to get PV back on a roof. I lived off grid for over 20 years in Taos County...so I know the limitations and potentials. I've been to Angel Fire many times...Taos, Crested Butte,.. lots of skiing. Its a beautiful airport at Angel Fire.     
 
Which is your preference for X-wind landings, Bruce. Forward slip all through Final or do you crab angle and then align to the
runway? X-wind Pilot techniques were taught both ways in my Student times... Instructor presented both. 
 
 I ask because the various types of aircraft make the Approach to landing different. I am wondering specifically the change (if any) in Tri Q compared to taildragger version.  
 
 I learned both and most of the time use forward slip. I do this because early in the approach it's mostly known what the ability of the aircraft is to fly the X-wind component at that airport at the time.  The risk of course is strict airspeed maintenance because I'm cross controlled at low altitude.  
 
Glad your back and safe.  Does your RV have the added gussets on the gear tubes? This months Kitplanes has a very good article on the topic. 
 
Vern
 
 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...>
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2021 6:26 PM
To: main@q-list.groups.io <main@q-list.groups.io>
Subject: [Q-List] N96BJ Flight
 
After flying 14 hours in our RV 6 to Angel Fire, NM, Pampa, TX, Phoenix, AZ to see grandkids, ski and spend a week in a Time Share I pulled out the TriQ 200.  I flew to Stillwater to see my brother Kirby and get the engine warmed up and water cooked off.  Great landings both airports and when I returned to Enid the wind had shifted to 240.  The best runway was 170 so 70 degree crosswind with wind at 18 knots gusting to 27 knots!  I lowered the right wing andr pushed left rudder and put the right main down 1st with the other 2 following quickly.  Seemed good and the tower came on and said “you handled that crosswind nicely”!  I told him the TriQ handled crosswinds much better than my taildraggin’ RV because of the smaller rudder.  It doesn’t weathervane into the wind so much!  The temperature was around 65 F which is a 70 degree difference from the week before and “Snowklahoma”!  We weren’t able to get home during that snowstorm from Angel Fire and Pampa so we cancelled our commercial flight to Phoenix and flew the RV 6!  The trip home over the hump east of Phoenix had a wonderful tailwind and we saw ground speeds of 235 mph!  Take that United.  Home in a little over 4 hours with a picnic lunch in Tucumcari, NM!  (We packed sandwiches because Tucumcari doesn’t have a courtesy car).

Thus far I have only logged 2.5 hrs in the TriQ this year.  That just ain’t right!  Gotta do better!  Come on “Spring Fling”!  Kevin please don’t mention the worthless cross wind landing I had last year.  Just our little secret.  😘
Bruce Crain
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Re: N96BJ Flight

Frankenbird Vern
 

It's called the "Cottage" and it is the home I am building from ground up..almost zero... there was a garage slab at the location and from that I began building a two story "mother in law".. 1bd, 1 bath.  two car garage below and the living space above. 

 Our camper is now "home"..not much room but better than a tent. 

 I have started on the hangar... The Q2 surfaces are in the garage ceiling and fuselage shells covered in a temp car shelter (Shelter Logic).   
 With any luck.. FOD 2024 might see us taxi in. 

 All the bulkheads for the fuselage are fabbed complete.. the canopy is fitted and glassed in. The Canard and Wing are both complete and in white.  For metal parts..I have all the engine, instruments, and landing gear (all new from the tires up). For remaining glass work I'll need to fab the Vertical Stab and Rudder, Ailerons and "flaps/elevators".  So in short the tuff glass fabrication is done, that being the flight surfaces. The fuselage is not joined..I have all the plywood tools to join the shells with the FS marked on them.

 A complete set of plans and all invoices from RAF (day 1)..including letters to and from the first purchaser of the Q2 kit. Every newsletter and every mod sketch..both in paper and CD.         

 I have more time to actually build now too..so the home projects are moving faster than when I was at the G280 program in Tulsa working long hours. The G280 Wing went away with Corona Virus...to South Korea.      


From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...>
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2021 4:57 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] N96BJ Flight
 
Any time frame for completion of "Frankenbird"?  Inquiring minds want to know.  It would sure be great to see you taxi up at FOD this year!  I don't suppose the weather has been conducive to squeeging fiberglass resin.  But Spring is coming and the temps will be perfect!  I concur that Cushing would be a great place to test fly it.  I've been into Pogue and didn't like to surroundings and approach.  It is a bit unsettling to me.
What are you working on currently?
Bruce

---------- Original Message ----------
From: smeshno1@...
To: "main@Q-List.groups.io" <main@Q-List.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] N96BJ Flight
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2021 22:48:02 +0000

 It was a bit uncomfortable for a while. Not much done outside I'll say. 
 
I learned to ski back in the late 60's on "Cascade Concrete". We lived in Arlington Washington and the high school there didn't have a football team, but did have a ski and track team. Coach took us to Mt Pilchuck (closed down years ago now)... and told me I couldn't turn worth beans..too slow on my edges..so I ended up racing downhill. My knees paid the price..not too bad but still I feel them from time to time.  
 
 The whole Northern New Mexico scene has changed drastically. When I first moved there in 1997 it was a LOT backward. Anyway..in 2017 Lara and I sold off our 50 acres with the Earthship I built and decided Green Country Oklahoma was a lot better for her gardening efforts (and our retirement pension dollars as well!). It was a good choice for us.. we are both much happier here.
 
 I have been drawn to Cushing for the 40 hour testing..but we are closer to Bristow. As you know most of the time we have North/South winds but less so here in the Tulsa area. I figure Cushing is a much better testing base..but I do want to have the aircraft closer. Pogue in Sand Springs is a nice airport in itself, but lots of hills and trees so not many places to choose from in emergency landing. 
 
  Frankenbird's canard and wingspan is 18 feet..same as Q2. I figure since it has the GU airfoil, it will probably fly similar to any other MKII Q2 with the same airfoil. The difference being construction of the Canard and Wing are Dragonfly.. the wing has the D-fly turtledeck...so both surface bolt to the Q2 bulkheads. Because I will be using a three blade prop with the same deck angle on the ramp as any other Q2 I'm not concerned that there will be a prop tip clearance problem. The aircraft will look pretty much as any other Q2 would externally, but imagine it with your RV6 gear. 
 
 Some of the specific changes I am doing deal more with what I learned in the aircraft factory life I fortunatly endured..and some from owner reports..accident reports..additions that any could choose to do if they had the same concerns as I.  Got lots to learn tho..and that is why it is a worthwhile effort. I approached every aircraft program I was assigned to as the Village Idiot, and then let the folks around me decide if I had anything to contribute. Most of the time I stayed the Idiot..but got paid pretty decent wages for doing so :-) 

Vern        
 
 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...>
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2021 3:56 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] N96BJ Flight
 
Hi Vern!
Glad  you made it through Snowklahoma!  It was warmer in Angel Fire than Enid when we were there.  Took off in a big crosswind from Angel Fire and an glad to be able to  use the RV again!  One of those never again things ya know!  I've been into Taos on one or two occasions and love having a cross runway there.  Angel Fire needs one badly!  Big safety factor!  The have lost lots of aircraft especially under powered or pilots forgot to lean out!  
 
I don't really think of forward slips much except to slow the TriQ down a bit.  I try to come in over the numbers flat like I am sitting on the runway so the nose doesn't get to high.  If you come in with the nose high you are going to fast.  If the nose if above the horizon much it will pay of and give you some bounces.  Of course the Dragonfly may work differently so go cautiously!  I usually try to hold the upwind wing down and opposite rudder as sometimes in a gust crabbing can make  you go airborne again.  Your mileage may vary though so if you are used to crabbing it might work well for you.  When you get the "Frankenbird" flying you will need to test it at small increments at 1st.    How's that for no commitment!  wink
 
Yep the  main gears have the stiffeners. 
Bruce

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Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2021 18:20:39 +0000

 

 How bad was the homestead when you arrived? Just today the water mains in Tulsa were finally repaired.. Out here in the sticks we are on a water catchment system I built backed up by a well I drilled last Summer. No water problems but my electric bill is probably going to be a bit extreme. Need to get PV back on a roof. I lived off grid for over 20 years in Taos County...so I know the limitations and potentials. I've been to Angel Fire many times...Taos, Crested Butte,.. lots of skiing. Its a beautiful airport at Angel Fire.     
 
Which is your preference for X-wind landings, Bruce. Forward slip all through Final or do you crab angle and then align to the
runway? X-wind Pilot techniques were taught both ways in my Student times... Instructor presented both. 
 
 I ask because the various types of aircraft make the Approach to landing different. I am wondering specifically the change (if any) in Tri Q compared to taildragger version.  
 
 I learned both and most of the time use forward slip. I do this because early in the approach it's mostly known what the ability of the aircraft is to fly the X-wind component at that airport at the time.  The risk of course is strict airspeed maintenance because I'm cross controlled at low altitude.  
 
Glad your back and safe.  Does your RV have the added gussets on the gear tubes? This months Kitplanes has a very good article on the topic. 
 
Vern
 
 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...>
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2021 6:26 PM
To: main@q-list.groups.io <main@q-list.groups.io>
Subject: [Q-List] N96BJ Flight
 
After flying 14 hours in our RV 6 to Angel Fire, NM, Pampa, TX, Phoenix, AZ to see grandkids, ski and spend a week in a Time Share I pulled out the TriQ 200.  I flew to Stillwater to see my brother Kirby and get the engine warmed up and water cooked off.  Great landings both airports and when I returned to Enid the wind had shifted to 240.  The best runway was 170 so 70 degree crosswind with wind at 18 knots gusting to 27 knots!  I lowered the right wing andr pushed left rudder and put the right main down 1st with the other 2 following quickly.  Seemed good and the tower came on and said “you handled that crosswind nicely”!  I told him the TriQ handled crosswinds much better than my taildraggin’ RV because of the smaller rudder.  It doesn’t weathervane into the wind so much!  The temperature was around 65 F which is a 70 degree difference from the week before and “Snowklahoma”!  We weren’t able to get home during that snowstorm from Angel Fire and Pampa so we cancelled our commercial flight to Phoenix and flew the RV 6!  The trip home over the hump east of Phoenix had a wonderful tailwind and we saw ground speeds of 235 mph!  Take that United.  Home in a little over 4 hours with a picnic lunch in Tucumcari, NM!  (We packed sandwiches because Tucumcari doesn’t have a courtesy car).

Thus far I have only logged 2.5 hrs in the TriQ this year.  That just ain’t right!  Gotta do better!  Come on “Spring Fling”!  Kevin please don’t mention the worthless cross wind landing I had last year.  Just our little secret.  😘
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Re: Spring Fling

Jerry Marstall <jnmarstall@...>
 

Just wrote the date on the outhouse wall.  Jerry 

-------- Original message --------
From: Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...>
Date: 2/28/21 5:11 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: main@q-list.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Spring Fling

That’s it!  Put Jay in charge of the weather!  Does he have a direct connection?
Bruce


On Feb 28, 2021, at 3:41 PM, Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote:



Am looking forward to it, Kevin. I know that weather can be unsettled over the Rockies that time of year, so I will plan like a Californian, where every day is sunny.

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Paul Fisher
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2021 2:10 PM
To: main@q-list.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Spring Fling

 

I wouldn't miss it!

 

Paul Fisher

Q-200 N17PF

 

On Sun, Feb 28, 2021, 15:05 Kevin Boddicker <trumanst@...> wrote:

Listers,

Bruce has been promoting the Spring Fling for quite a while now.
He called me yesterday, and needed information.
I decided on May 21,22,23, 2021. Good Lord willin.
Hope everyone can participate on those dates.
Last year we rescheduled for mid July, due to the virus. No-one got sick by the way.
Personally, I will have received both vaccines by then, so no worries. Right?
Mark your calendars. Make room arrangements. Lots of rooms in DEH. That’s Decorah IA.
It’s laid back, lots of fun, great FBO on the field that goes out of his way to accommodate .

If you know you are going to attend raise your hand.

All the best,




Kevin Boddicker
TriQ 200 N7868B   542 hrs
Luana, IA.











Re: Spring Fling

Anthony P
 

Glad to finally know the dates.
These are not set in stone, but I'm planning to go out with an empty trailer from New Hampshire and return to Mass with a Q2.
With a special ticket, sold only at this event, you may be able to help disassemble and load a Revmaster Q2 into a trailer. :)

I will certainly be requesting that people inspect all they can to give feedback on the condition and needed repairs/improvements.

I really hope everything works out, and I look forward to meeting everyone.


Re: Spring Fling

Bruce Crain
 

That’s it!  Put Jay in charge of the weather!  Does he have a direct connection?
Bruce


On Feb 28, 2021, at 3:41 PM, Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote:



Am looking forward to it, Kevin. I know that weather can be unsettled over the Rockies that time of year, so I will plan like a Californian, where every day is sunny.

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Paul Fisher
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2021 2:10 PM
To: main@q-list.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Spring Fling

 

I wouldn't miss it!

 

Paul Fisher

Q-200 N17PF

 

On Sun, Feb 28, 2021, 15:05 Kevin Boddicker <trumanst@...> wrote:

Listers,

Bruce has been promoting the Spring Fling for quite a while now.
He called me yesterday, and needed information.
I decided on May 21,22,23, 2021. Good Lord willin.
Hope everyone can participate on those dates.
Last year we rescheduled for mid July, due to the virus. No-one got sick by the way.
Personally, I will have received both vaccines by then, so no worries. Right?
Mark your calendars. Make room arrangements. Lots of rooms in DEH. That’s Decorah IA.
It’s laid back, lots of fun, great FBO on the field that goes out of his way to accommodate .

If you know you are going to attend raise your hand.

All the best,




Kevin Boddicker
TriQ 200 N7868B   542 hrs
Luana, IA.











Re: Spring Fling

Jay Scheevel
 

Am looking forward to it, Kevin. I know that weather can be unsettled over the Rockies that time of year, so I will plan like a Californian, where every day is sunny.

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Paul Fisher
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2021 2:10 PM
To: main@q-list.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Spring Fling

 

I wouldn't miss it!

 

Paul Fisher

Q-200 N17PF

 

On Sun, Feb 28, 2021, 15:05 Kevin Boddicker <trumanst@...> wrote:

Listers,

Bruce has been promoting the Spring Fling for quite a while now.
He called me yesterday, and needed information.
I decided on May 21,22,23, 2021. Good Lord willin.
Hope everyone can participate on those dates.
Last year we rescheduled for mid July, due to the virus. No-one got sick by the way.
Personally, I will have received both vaccines by then, so no worries. Right?
Mark your calendars. Make room arrangements. Lots of rooms in DEH. That’s Decorah IA.
It’s laid back, lots of fun, great FBO on the field that goes out of his way to accommodate .

If you know you are going to attend raise your hand.

All the best,




Kevin Boddicker
TriQ 200 N7868B   542 hrs
Luana, IA.









Re: Spring Fling

Bruce Crain
 

Put me in the game Coach!  And Honey Lamb to!  Hope we can stay longer this time!  Bruce and HL


On Feb 28, 2021, at 3:10 PM, Paul Fisher <rv7a.n18pf@...> wrote:


I wouldn't miss it!

Paul Fisher
Q-200 N17PF

On Sun, Feb 28, 2021, 15:05 Kevin Boddicker <trumanst@...> wrote:
Listers,

Bruce has been promoting the Spring Fling for quite a while now.
He called me yesterday, and needed information.
I decided on May 21,22,23, 2021. Good Lord willin.
Hope everyone can participate on those dates.
Last year we rescheduled for mid July, due to the virus. No-one got sick by the way.
Personally, I will have received both vaccines by then, so no worries. Right?
Mark your calendars. Make room arrangements. Lots of rooms in DEH. That’s Decorah IA.
It’s laid back, lots of fun, great FBO on the field that goes out of his way to accommodate .

If you know you are going to attend raise your hand.

All the best,




Kevin Boddicker
TriQ 200 N7868B   542 hrs
Luana, IA.












Re: Spring Fling

Paul Fisher
 

I wouldn't miss it!

Paul Fisher
Q-200 N17PF

On Sun, Feb 28, 2021, 15:05 Kevin Boddicker <trumanst@...> wrote:
Listers,

Bruce has been promoting the Spring Fling for quite a while now.
He called me yesterday, and needed information.
I decided on May 21,22,23, 2021. Good Lord willin.
Hope everyone can participate on those dates.
Last year we rescheduled for mid July, due to the virus. No-one got sick by the way.
Personally, I will have received both vaccines by then, so no worries. Right?
Mark your calendars. Make room arrangements. Lots of rooms in DEH. That’s Decorah IA.
It’s laid back, lots of fun, great FBO on the field that goes out of his way to accommodate .

If you know you are going to attend raise your hand.

All the best,




Kevin Boddicker
TriQ 200 N7868B   542 hrs
Luana, IA.










Spring Fling

Kevin Boddicker
 

Listers,

Bruce has been promoting the Spring Fling for quite a while now.
He called me yesterday, and needed information.
I decided on May 21,22,23, 2021. Good Lord willin.
Hope everyone can participate on those dates.
Last year we rescheduled for mid July, due to the virus. No-one got sick by the way.
Personally, I will have received both vaccines by then, so no worries. Right?
Mark your calendars. Make room arrangements. Lots of rooms in DEH. That’s Decorah IA.
It’s laid back, lots of fun, great FBO on the field that goes out of his way to accommodate .

If you know you are going to attend raise your hand.

All the best,




Kevin Boddicker
TriQ 200 N7868B 542 hrs
Luana, IA.


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Re: N96BJ Flight

Bruce Crain
 

Any time frame for completion of "Frankenbird"?  Inquiring minds want to know.  It would sure be great to see you taxi up at FOD this year!  I don't suppose the weather has been conducive to squeeging fiberglass resin.  But Spring is coming and the temps will be perfect!  I concur that Cushing would be a great place to test fly it.  I've been into Pogue and didn't like to surroundings and approach.  It is a bit unsettling to me.
What are you working on currently?
Bruce


---------- Original Message ----------
From: smeshno1@...
To: "main@Q-List.groups.io" <main@Q-List.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] N96BJ Flight
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2021 22:48:02 +0000

 It was a bit uncomfortable for a while. Not much done outside I'll say. 
 
I learned to ski back in the late 60's on "Cascade Concrete". We lived in Arlington Washington and the high school there didn't have a football team, but did have a ski and track team. Coach took us to Mt Pilchuck (closed down years ago now)... and told me I couldn't turn worth beans..too slow on my edges..so I ended up racing downhill. My knees paid the price..not too bad but still I feel them from time to time.  
 
 The whole Northern New Mexico scene has changed drastically. When I first moved there in 1997 it was a LOT backward. Anyway..in 2017 Lara and I sold off our 50 acres with the Earthship I built and decided Green Country Oklahoma was a lot better for her gardening efforts (and our retirement pension dollars as well!). It was a good choice for us.. we are both much happier here.
 
 I have been drawn to Cushing for the 40 hour testing..but we are closer to Bristow. As you know most of the time we have North/South winds but less so here in the Tulsa area. I figure Cushing is a much better testing base..but I do want to have the aircraft closer. Pogue in Sand Springs is a nice airport in itself, but lots of hills and trees so not many places to choose from in emergency landing. 
 
  Frankenbird's canard and wingspan is 18 feet..same as Q2. I figure since it has the GU airfoil, it will probably fly similar to any other MKII Q2 with the same airfoil. The difference being construction of the Canard and Wing are Dragonfly.. the wing has the D-fly turtledeck...so both surface bolt to the Q2 bulkheads. Because I will be using a three blade prop with the same deck angle on the ramp as any other Q2 I'm not concerned that there will be a prop tip clearance problem. The aircraft will look pretty much as any other Q2 would externally, but imagine it with your RV6 gear. 
 
 Some of the specific changes I am doing deal more with what I learned in the aircraft factory life I fortunatly endured..and some from owner reports..accident reports..additions that any could choose to do if they had the same concerns as I.  Got lots to learn tho..and that is why it is a worthwhile effort. I approached every aircraft program I was assigned to as the Village Idiot, and then let the folks around me decide if I had anything to contribute. Most of the time I stayed the Idiot..but got paid pretty decent wages for doing so :-) 

Vern        
 
 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...>
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2021 3:56 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] N96BJ Flight
 
Hi Vern!
Glad  you made it through Snowklahoma!  It was warmer in Angel Fire than Enid when we were there.  Took off in a big crosswind from Angel Fire and an glad to be able to  use the RV again!  One of those never again things ya know!  I've been into Taos on one or two occasions and love having a cross runway there.  Angel Fire needs one badly!  Big safety factor!  The have lost lots of aircraft especially under powered or pilots forgot to lean out!  
 
I don't really think of forward slips much except to slow the TriQ down a bit.  I try to come in over the numbers flat like I am sitting on the runway so the nose doesn't get to high.  If you come in with the nose high you are going to fast.  If the nose if above the horizon much it will pay of and give you some bounces.  Of course the Dragonfly may work differently so go cautiously!  I usually try to hold the upwind wing down and opposite rudder as sometimes in a gust crabbing can make  you go airborne again.  Your mileage may vary though so if you are used to crabbing it might work well for you.  When you get the "Frankenbird" flying you will need to test it at small increments at 1st.    How's that for no commitment!  wink
 
Yep the  main gears have the stiffeners. 
Bruce

---------- Original Message ----------
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Subject: Re: [Q-List] N96BJ Flight
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2021 18:20:39 +0000

 

 How bad was the homestead when you arrived? Just today the water mains in Tulsa were finally repaired.. Out here in the sticks we are on a water catchment system I built backed up by a well I drilled last Summer. No water problems but my electric bill is probably going to be a bit extreme. Need to get PV back on a roof. I lived off grid for over 20 years in Taos County...so I know the limitations and potentials. I've been to Angel Fire many times...Taos, Crested Butte,.. lots of skiing. Its a beautiful airport at Angel Fire.     
 
Which is your preference for X-wind landings, Bruce. Forward slip all through Final or do you crab angle and then align to the
runway? X-wind Pilot techniques were taught both ways in my Student times... Instructor presented both. 
 
 I ask because the various types of aircraft make the Approach to landing different. I am wondering specifically the change (if any) in Tri Q compared to taildragger version.  
 
 I learned both and most of the time use forward slip. I do this because early in the approach it's mostly known what the ability of the aircraft is to fly the X-wind component at that airport at the time.  The risk of course is strict airspeed maintenance because I'm cross controlled at low altitude.  
 
Glad your back and safe.  Does your RV have the added gussets on the gear tubes? This months Kitplanes has a very good article on the topic. 
 
Vern
 
 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...>
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2021 6:26 PM
To: main@q-list.groups.io <main@q-list.groups.io>
Subject: [Q-List] N96BJ Flight
 
After flying 14 hours in our RV 6 to Angel Fire, NM, Pampa, TX, Phoenix, AZ to see grandkids, ski and spend a week in a Time Share I pulled out the TriQ 200.  I flew to Stillwater to see my brother Kirby and get the engine warmed up and water cooked off.  Great landings both airports and when I returned to Enid the wind had shifted to 240.  The best runway was 170 so 70 degree crosswind with wind at 18 knots gusting to 27 knots!  I lowered the right wing andr pushed left rudder and put the right main down 1st with the other 2 following quickly.  Seemed good and the tower came on and said “you handled that crosswind nicely”!  I told him the TriQ handled crosswinds much better than my taildraggin’ RV because of the smaller rudder.  It doesn’t weathervane into the wind so much!  The temperature was around 65 F which is a 70 degree difference from the week before and “Snowklahoma”!  We weren’t able to get home during that snowstorm from Angel Fire and Pampa so we cancelled our commercial flight to Phoenix and flew the RV 6!  The trip home over the hump east of Phoenix had a wonderful tailwind and we saw ground speeds of 235 mph!  Take that United.  Home in a little over 4 hours with a picnic lunch in Tucumcari, NM!  (We packed sandwiches because Tucumcari doesn’t have a courtesy car).

Thus far I have only logged 2.5 hrs in the TriQ this year.  That just ain’t right!  Gotta do better!  Come on “Spring Fling”!  Kevin please don’t mention the worthless cross wind landing I had last year.  Just our little secret.  😘
Bruce Crain
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Re: N96BJ Flight

Frankenbird Vern
 

 It was a bit uncomfortable for a while. Not much done outside I'll say. 

I learned to ski back in the late 60's on "Cascade Concrete". We lived in Arlington Washington and the high school there didn't have a football team, but did have a ski and track team. Coach took us to Mt Pilchuck (closed down years ago now)... and told me I couldn't turn worth beans..too slow on my edges..so I ended up racing downhill. My knees paid the price..not too bad but still I feel them from time to time.  

 The whole Northern New Mexico scene has changed drastically. When I first moved there in 1997 it was a LOT backward. Anyway..in 2017 Lara and I sold off our 50 acres with the Earthship I built and decided Green Country Oklahoma was a lot better for her gardening efforts (and our retirement pension dollars as well!). It was a good choice for us.. we are both much happier here.

 I have been drawn to Cushing for the 40 hour testing..but we are closer to Bristow. As you know most of the time we have North/South winds but less so here in the Tulsa area. I figure Cushing is a much better testing base..but I do want to have the aircraft closer. Pogue in Sand Springs is a nice airport in itself, but lots of hills and trees so not many places to choose from in emergency landing. 

  Frankenbird's canard and wingspan is 18 feet..same as Q2. I figure since it has the GU airfoil, it will probably fly similar to any other MKII Q2 with the same airfoil. The difference being construction of the Canard and Wing are Dragonfly.. the wing has the D-fly turtledeck...so both surface bolt to the Q2 bulkheads. Because I will be using a three blade prop with the same deck angle on the ramp as any other Q2 I'm not concerned that there will be a prop tip clearance problem. The aircraft will look pretty much as any other Q2 would externally, but imagine it with your RV6 gear. 

 Some of the specific changes I am doing deal more with what I learned in the aircraft factory life I fortunatly endured..and some from owner reports..accident reports..additions that any could choose to do if they had the same concerns as I.  Got lots to learn tho..and that is why it is a worthwhile effort. I approached every aircraft program I was assigned to as the Village Idiot, and then let the folks around me decide if I had anything to contribute. Most of the time I stayed the Idiot..but got paid pretty decent wages for doing so :-) 

Vern        


From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...>
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2021 3:56 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] N96BJ Flight
 
Hi Vern!
Glad  you made it through Snowklahoma!  It was warmer in Angel Fire than Enid when we were there.  Took off in a big crosswind from Angel Fire and an glad to be able to  use the RV again!  One of those never again things ya know!  I've been into Taos on one or two occasions and love having a cross runway there.  Angel Fire needs one badly!  Big safety factor!  The have lost lots of aircraft especially under powered or pilots forgot to lean out!  
 
I don't really think of forward slips much except to slow the TriQ down a bit.  I try to come in over the numbers flat like I am sitting on the runway so the nose doesn't get to high.  If you come in with the nose high you are going to fast.  If the nose if above the horizon much it will pay of and give you some bounces.  Of course the Dragonfly may work differently so go cautiously!  I usually try to hold the upwind wing down and opposite rudder as sometimes in a gust crabbing can make  you go airborne again.  Your mileage may vary though so if you are used to crabbing it might work well for you.  When you get the "Frankenbird" flying you will need to test it at small increments at 1st.    How's that for no commitment!  wink
 
Yep the  main gears have the stiffeners. 
Bruce

---------- Original Message ----------
From: smeshno1@...
To: "main@Q-List.groups.io" <main@Q-List.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] N96BJ Flight
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2021 18:20:39 +0000

 How bad was the homestead when you arrived? Just today the water mains in Tulsa were finally repaired.. Out here in the sticks we are on a water catchment system I built backed up by a well I drilled last Summer. No water problems but my electric bill is probably going to be a bit extreme. Need to get PV back on a roof. I lived off grid for over 20 years in Taos County...so I know the limitations and potentials. I've been to Angel Fire many times...Taos, Crested Butte,.. lots of skiing. Its a beautiful airport at Angel Fire.     
 
Which is your preference for X-wind landings, Bruce. Forward slip all through Final or do you crab angle and then align to the
runway? X-wind Pilot techniques were taught both ways in my Student times... Instructor presented both. 
 
 I ask because the various types of aircraft make the Approach to landing different. I am wondering specifically the change (if any) in Tri Q compared to taildragger version.  
 
 I learned both and most of the time use forward slip. I do this because early in the approach it's mostly known what the ability of the aircraft is to fly the X-wind component at that airport at the time.  The risk of course is strict airspeed maintenance because I'm cross controlled at low altitude.  
 
Glad your back and safe.  Does your RV have the added gussets on the gear tubes? This months Kitplanes has a very good article on the topic. 
 
Vern
 
 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...>
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2021 6:26 PM
To: main@q-list.groups.io <main@q-list.groups.io>
Subject: [Q-List] N96BJ Flight
 
After flying 14 hours in our RV 6 to Angel Fire, NM, Pampa, TX, Phoenix, AZ to see grandkids, ski and spend a week in a Time Share I pulled out the TriQ 200.  I flew to Stillwater to see my brother Kirby and get the engine warmed up and water cooked off.  Great landings both airports and when I returned to Enid the wind had shifted to 240.  The best runway was 170 so 70 degree crosswind with wind at 18 knots gusting to 27 knots!  I lowered the right wing andr pushed left rudder and put the right main down 1st with the other 2 following quickly.  Seemed good and the tower came on and said “you handled that crosswind nicely”!  I told him the TriQ handled crosswinds much better than my taildraggin’ RV because of the smaller rudder.  It doesn’t weathervane into the wind so much!  The temperature was around 65 F which is a 70 degree difference from the week before and “Snowklahoma”!  We weren’t able to get home during that snowstorm from Angel Fire and Pampa so we cancelled our commercial flight to Phoenix and flew the RV 6!  The trip home over the hump east of Phoenix had a wonderful tailwind and we saw ground speeds of 235 mph!  Take that United.  Home in a little over 4 hours with a picnic lunch in Tucumcari, NM!  (We packed sandwiches because Tucumcari doesn’t have a courtesy car).

Thus far I have only logged 2.5 hrs in the TriQ this year.  That just ain’t right!  Gotta do better!  Come on “Spring Fling”!  Kevin please don’t mention the worthless cross wind landing I had last year.  Just our little secret.  😘
Bruce Crain
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Re: N96BJ Flight

Bruce Crain
 

Hi Vern!
Glad  you made it through Snowklahoma!  It was warmer in Angel Fire than Enid when we were there.  Took off in a big crosswind from Angel Fire and an glad to be able to  use the RV again!  One of those never again things ya know!  I've been into Taos on one or two occasions and love having a cross runway there.  Angel Fire needs one badly!  Big safety factor!  The have lost lots of aircraft especially under powered or pilots forgot to lean out!  
 
I don't really think of forward slips much except to slow the TriQ down a bit.  I try to come in over the numbers flat like I am sitting on the runway so the nose doesn't get to high.  If you come in with the nose high you are going to fast.  If the nose if above the horizon much it will pay of and give you some bounces.  Of course the Dragonfly may work differently so go cautiously!  I usually try to hold the upwind wing down and opposite rudder as sometimes in a gust crabbing can make  you go airborne again.  Your mileage may vary though so if you are used to crabbing it might work well for you.  When you get the "Frankenbird" flying you will need to test it at small increments at 1st.    How's that for no commitment!  wink
 
Yep the  main gears have the stiffeners. 
Bruce


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Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2021 18:20:39 +0000

 How bad was the homestead when you arrived? Just today the water mains in Tulsa were finally repaired.. Out here in the sticks we are on a water catchment system I built backed up by a well I drilled last Summer. No water problems but my electric bill is probably going to be a bit extreme. Need to get PV back on a roof. I lived off grid for over 20 years in Taos County...so I know the limitations and potentials. I've been to Angel Fire many times...Taos, Crested Butte,.. lots of skiing. Its a beautiful airport at Angel Fire.     
 
Which is your preference for X-wind landings, Bruce. Forward slip all through Final or do you crab angle and then align to the
runway? X-wind Pilot techniques were taught both ways in my Student times... Instructor presented both. 
 
 I ask because the various types of aircraft make the Approach to landing different. I am wondering specifically the change (if any) in Tri Q compared to taildragger version.  
 
 I learned both and most of the time use forward slip. I do this because early in the approach it's mostly known what the ability of the aircraft is to fly the X-wind component at that airport at the time.  The risk of course is strict airspeed maintenance because I'm cross controlled at low altitude.  
 
Glad your back and safe.  Does your RV have the added gussets on the gear tubes? This months Kitplanes has a very good article on the topic. 
 
Vern
 
 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...>
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2021 6:26 PM
To: main@q-list.groups.io <main@q-list.groups.io>
Subject: [Q-List] N96BJ Flight
 
After flying 14 hours in our RV 6 to Angel Fire, NM, Pampa, TX, Phoenix, AZ to see grandkids, ski and spend a week in a Time Share I pulled out the TriQ 200.  I flew to Stillwater to see my brother Kirby and get the engine warmed up and water cooked off.  Great landings both airports and when I returned to Enid the wind had shifted to 240.  The best runway was 170 so 70 degree crosswind with wind at 18 knots gusting to 27 knots!  I lowered the right wing andr pushed left rudder and put the right main down 1st with the other 2 following quickly.  Seemed good and the tower came on and said “you handled that crosswind nicely”!  I told him the TriQ handled crosswinds much better than my taildraggin’ RV because of the smaller rudder.  It doesn’t weathervane into the wind so much!  The temperature was around 65 F which is a 70 degree difference from the week before and “Snowklahoma”!  We weren’t able to get home during that snowstorm from Angel Fire and Pampa so we cancelled our commercial flight to Phoenix and flew the RV 6!  The trip home over the hump east of Phoenix had a wonderful tailwind and we saw ground speeds of 235 mph!  Take that United.  Home in a little over 4 hours with a picnic lunch in Tucumcari, NM!  (We packed sandwiches because Tucumcari doesn’t have a courtesy car).

Thus far I have only logged 2.5 hrs in the TriQ this year.  That just ain’t right!  Gotta do better!  Come on “Spring Fling”!  Kevin please don’t mention the worthless cross wind landing I had last year.  Just our little secret.  😘
Bruce Crain
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Re: N96BJ Flight

Frankenbird Vern
 

 How bad was the homestead when you arrived? Just today the water mains in Tulsa were finally repaired.. Out here in the sticks we are on a water catchment system I built backed up by a well I drilled last Summer. No water problems but my electric bill is probably going to be a bit extreme. Need to get PV back on a roof. I lived off grid for over 20 years in Taos County...so I know the limitations and potentials. I've been to Angel Fire many times...Taos, Crested Butte,.. lots of skiing. Its a beautiful airport at Angel Fire.     

Which is your preference for X-wind landings, Bruce. Forward slip all through Final or do you crab angle and then align to the
runway? X-wind Pilot techniques were taught both ways in my Student times... Instructor presented both. 
 
 I ask because the various types of aircraft make the Approach to landing different. I am wondering specifically the change (if any) in Tri Q compared to taildragger version.  

 I learned both and most of the time use forward slip. I do this because early in the approach it's mostly known what the ability of the aircraft is to fly the X-wind component at that airport at the time.  The risk of course is strict airspeed maintenance because I'm cross controlled at low altitude.  

Glad your back and safe.  Does your RV have the added gussets on the gear tubes? This months Kitplanes has a very good article on the topic. 

Vern


From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...>
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2021 6:26 PM
To: main@q-list.groups.io <main@q-list.groups.io>
Subject: [Q-List] N96BJ Flight
 
After flying 14 hours in our RV 6 to Angel Fire, NM, Pampa, TX, Phoenix, AZ to see grandkids, ski and spend a week in a Time Share I pulled out the TriQ 200.  I flew to Stillwater to see my brother Kirby and get the engine warmed up and water cooked off.  Great landings both airports and when I returned to Enid the wind had shifted to 240.  The best runway was 170 so 70 degree crosswind with wind at 18 knots gusting to 27 knots!  I lowered the right wing andr pushed left rudder and put the right main down 1st with the other 2 following quickly.  Seemed good and the tower came on and said “you handled that crosswind nicely”!  I told him the TriQ handled crosswinds much better than my taildraggin’ RV because of the smaller rudder.  It doesn’t weathervane into the wind so much!  The temperature was around 65 F which is a 70 degree difference from the week before and “Snowklahoma”!  We weren’t able to get home during that snowstorm from Angel Fire and Pampa so we cancelled our commercial flight to Phoenix and flew the RV 6!  The trip home over the hump east of Phoenix had a wonderful tailwind and we saw ground speeds of 235 mph!  Take that United.  Home in a little over 4 hours with a picnic lunch in Tucumcari, NM!  (We packed sandwiches because Tucumcari doesn’t have a courtesy car).

Thus far I have only logged 2.5 hrs in the TriQ this year.  That just ain’t right!  Gotta do better!  Come on “Spring Fling”!  Kevin please don’t mention the worthless cross wind landing I had last year.  Just our little secret.  😘
Bruce Crain
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Film trailer

Jay Scheevel
 

Hi All,

 

Sam has put me on the calendar sometime down the road for a Q-tour done via Zoom. I will be doing that Zoom tour from my office, since I have poor signal at the airport. I will narrate the tour while showing a video much like Mike Dwyer did on his Q-tour. Sam will schedule my Zoom for some time after this month’s tour hosted by Jim Patillo.

 

In the meantime, I have posted on YouTube, the video that I will narrate. If you want to take a sneak peek. It has no narration, and you will have to tune in to the future Zoom session if you want to hear me talk about it (or not). In any case, here is the link to my “silent movie” version of that video tour:  https://youtu.be/a-8e-chpia8

 

Cheers,

Jay Scheevel Tri-Q2 N8WQ 132 hours


Re: Cold Weather Texan

Jay Scheevel
 

Although not a very convenient reference point, there is no need to specify C or F at minus 40 degrees. They are the same. <--- good for pub trivia and not much else.

Cheers,
Jay

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Corbin------------ It is minus 20 to minus 40 here for about four months.

Springtime, normal walk around , fire it up and go flying.

It is always in an unheated hangar. If I ever do leave it outside, I also check the back fuselage for any

water that could of entered from the canopy area, plus all static vents and pitot.

Take care--------- Chris


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Re: Cold Weather Texan

Corbin
 

Dang...that's cold!!  I guess 0 degrees F is considered warm to you.  

Corbin

On February 26, 2021 at 11:17 AM, Dorothea Keats <dkeats@...> wrote:

 Corbin------------  It is minus 20 to minus 40 here for about four months.

 Springtime, normal walk around , fire it up and go flying.

It is always in an unheated hangar.  If  I ever do leave it outside, I
also check the back fuselage for any

water that could of entered from the canopy area, plus all static vents
and pitot.

Take care---------  Chris


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