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Re: Reminder! Next Q-Tour - Nathan Peck in his Rotax powered Q-1 - May 8 at 0900 Central Savings time

Richard Thomson
 

Sorry Sam, Missed this yesterday, up the hanger chasing the 3 degrees.

Thanks for the invite, will catch it slow time this week.

Rich T.

On 07/05/2021 01:45, Sam Hoskins wrote:
Be sure and join us for this one. Visit with Nathan as he gives us a tour of his little speed demon single-place Quickie.  For an action preview, you can see Nathan's rather unconventional starting procedure here: https://youtu.be/kx22pltzDYs

To join the Q-tour, click on the link below the photo. You will not be admitted until 09:00, May 8.



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Re: Fuel Sight Tube Broke- pics included

Mike Dwyer
 

I think the flexible vinyl tube is better than a glass tube.  Just replace it every year.  I like the valve idea.  I may look for one.  Mike Q200 N3QP


On Sat, May 8, 2021, 5:49 PM Dorothea Keats <dkeats@...> wrote:
   Corbin----------  I have a small valve installed at the header tank,
just in case. Sitting in the airplane I can reach in a shut of the fuel
to the site gauge.  I am using the site tube that came with the kit. It
will probably glaze over like my little Quickie did and I will replace
it with glass tube.  Also sending a picture of where I am with the
project. Lots of little thing to do, but plugging along.

Take care    Chris




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Re: Fuel Sight Tube Broke- pics included

Jay Scheevel
 

Great progress, Chris. Keep up the good work. Very clean installations of everything.

Cheers,
Jay

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Subject: Re: [Q-List] Fuel Sight Tube Broke- pics included

Corbin---------- I have a small valve installed at the header tank, just in case. Sitting in the airplane I can reach in a shut of the fuel to the site gauge. I am using the site tube that came with the kit. It will probably glaze over like my little Quickie did and I will replace it with glass tube. Also sending a picture of where I am with the project. Lots of little thing to do, but plugging along.

Take care Chris




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Re: Fuel Sight Tube Broke- pics included

Chris Walterson
 

Corbin----------  I have a small valve installed at the header tank, just in case. Sitting in the airplane I can reach in a shut of the fuel to the site gauge.  I am using the site tube that came with the kit. It will probably glaze over like my little Quickie did and I will replace it with glass tube.  Also sending a picture of where I am with the project. Lots of little thing to do, but plugging along.

Take care    Chris




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Re: Reminder! Next Q-Tour - Nathan Peck in his Rotax powered Q-1 - May 8 at 0900 Central Savings time

Jay Scheevel
 

I am afraid I will have to miss this one. I will catch Nathan on the replay. Thanks for organizing, Sam.

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sam Hoskins
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2021 6:45 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: [Q-List] Reminder! Next Q-Tour - Nathan Peck in his Rotax powered Q-1 - May 8 at 0900 Central Savings time

 

Be sure and join us for this one. Visit with Nathan as he gives us a tour of his little speed demon single-place Quickie.  For an action preview, you can see Nathan's rather unconventional starting procedure here: https://youtu.be/kx22pltzDYs

To join the Q-tour, click on the link below the photo. You will not be admitted until 09:00, May 8.

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Sam Hoskins is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.

 

Topic: Nathan Peck's Rotax powered Q-1  Q-Tour

Time: May 8, 2021 09:00 AM Central Time (US and Canada)

 

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Reminder! Next Q-Tour - Nathan Peck in his Rotax powered Q-1 - May 8 at 0900 Central Savings time

Sam Hoskins
 

Be sure and join us for this one. Visit with Nathan as he gives us a tour of his little speed demon single-place Quickie.  For an action preview, you can see Nathan's rather unconventional starting procedure here: https://youtu.be/kx22pltzDYs

To join the Q-tour, click on the link below the photo. You will not be admitted until 09:00, May 8.



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Reminder! Next Q-Tour - Nathan Peck in his Rotax powered Q-1 - May 8 at 0900 Central Savings time

Sam Hoskins
 

Be there, or be square.


Re: Fuel Sight Tube Broke- pics included

Mike Dwyer
 

LOL, ya agree about the RV.
Mike


On Thu, May 6, 2021, 6:47 PM Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote:

Move to the high desert, Mike 😊  The only one that should listen to my advice should be Charlie….or vice versa.  No offense Jon Finley, but you have gone over to the dark side anyway with the whole RV thing.

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Dwyer
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2021 4:21 PM
To: main@q-list.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Fuel Sight Tube Broke- pics included

 

I had a capacitive sender in my header tank but could never trust that thing.  I've gone back to a sight gauge.  

Mike Q200 N3QP

 

On Thu, May 6, 2021, 5:16 PM Mike Steinsland <MIKESKUSTOMS@...> wrote:

Glad this topic came up because this is something that has haunted my thinking since the first time I saw the panel of a Q2!

 

I like the idea of doubling up, or just putting a gauge in the tank.

 

On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 4:06 PM Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote:

That’s a great idea, Bruce. Wish I had thought of that while building. I would have put a corning tempered glass “sight glass” as the sight gauge and then covered the whole length of it with a clear vinyl tube clamped on both ends. The fuel would only come in contact with the glass unless that glass broke and if it did that, then the vinyl would hold everything together without a spill until a repair could be made.

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bruce Crain
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2021 1:40 PM
To: main@q-list.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Fuel Sight Tube Broke- pics included

 

Use a larger hose piece that fits over the original fuel hose.  It gives a bigger diameter for the hose clamp to tighten up against and holds the underneath hose better.  You can split the smaller outer hose lengthwise if it won’t quite fit over the inside hose.  Heck you can use two hoses over the inside one if you like!

Bruce Crain

 

On May 6, 2021, at 1:27 PM, Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser@...> wrote:



Honestly, I thought it was discolored by design.  I know some are clear but I thought this was tinted tubing.

 

Corbin Ge!ser


On May 6, 2021 at 12:49 PM, Mike Dwyer <q200pilot@...> wrote:

Yes, those are a yearly replacement item.  Looks like yours might be 5+ years old!  When they are no longer clear, your on borrowed time!  Same thing with the header tank overflow tubing.

Mike Dwyer

 

Q200 Website: http://goo.gl/V8IrJF

 

 

On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 1:04 PM Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:

Brittle little tubes these are.  I’m starting the new panel build and was emptying the header tank.  I barely touched the sight gauge so I could watch the fuel quantity decreased.  It cracked immediately and fuel started to spray.  As I panicked and yelled, “tell my story….” to anyone that could of heard me, I tried to put my thumb over it and it broke into more pieces.  Plenty of fuel emptied into the middle and pilot seat before I could rig up the hose and water container to collect it.  Fun.

Glad it broke on the ground as I easily could have tapped it in flight and the same thing would have happened.




Corbin

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Re: Today's Progress

Jay Scheevel
 

Nice work, Mike. I have done the same thing as you with the split vinyl tubing to keep from chopping off parts of my body that I would like to keep. I hung my cone, pointy end up,  from the shop ceiling, then crawled underneath, stood up and did the glassing work “statue of liberty style”. After a while it gets hot, humid and much lower in O2 content. Finally gave up and built my little access port for future repairs. Hang in there you are getting closer.

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2021 4:49 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: [Q-List] Today's Progress

 

Just finished running the 4 control cables in the tail...No wonder the last guy quit before getting to this step! I tried wearing the tail cone as a hat, like Jay suggested, but ended up doing the old Army crawl instead.



Obligatory airplane selfie:



I also popped my "Dremel an Airplane" cherry and made clearance for the new brake mount. Big shout out to "Sawzall Sam" for inspiring me on how these airplanes really get (re)built. Must have watched that video a dozen times last night to build up my confidence :-)



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Re: Fuel Sight Tube Broke- pics included

Corbin
 

Thanks Keith.  Any and all information is incredibly helpful so thank you for sending this.

Corbin

On May 6, 2021, at 6:03 PM, Keith Welsh <kw544@...> wrote:


Hi Corbin,
For what it's worth....
This may not have anything to do with your issue but the photo looks like the (once upon a time) clear plastic tubes supplied with the Quickies. 
Mine would discolor, get soft  at the tank and shrink.  The top, further from the tank, would crack.  Fuel don't actually travel up the tub only the dowel.
After changing several through the years I called McMaster Carr for some guidance.  
When I told the guy that I had been using a clear plastic tubing called Tygothane, I believe, he asked who told me to use that.  I had been getting it from them all these years.  He knew that would not work.  The catalogue even said it was fuel resistant as I remember.  I might add that I couldn't find it in their catalogue this time.
Instead he recommended Pyrex tubing.  You know the glass cookware stuff.  Worried how to cut it to length turned out not to be an issue.  Just scored the tube
with a Dremel cut off wheel until it came apart.  That was just prior to OSH 2019.  It is as clear as a bell and virtually indestructible.  
To cut it I ran it through another plastic tube and squeezed with a vice enough that the Pyrex would turn inside the softer tubing with some resistance so
the Dremel wheel would slowly spin it and make a nice even cut.  That Pyrex glass is very hard so the cutoff wheel was very slow but got the job done and no scratches.
Obviously a lathe would have been better but me don't have one.
Maybe this helps. Keith
 
 
 
 
 


---------- Original Message ----------
From: "Corbin via groups.io" <c_geiser@...>
To: Q List <main@q-list.groups.io>
Subject: [Q-List] Fuel Sight Tube Broke- pics included
Date: Thu, 6 May 2021 12:03:44 -0500

Brittle little tubes these are.  I’m starting the new panel build and was emptying the header tank.  I barely touched the sight gauge so I could watch the fuel quantity decreased.  It cracked immediately and fuel started to spray.  As I panicked and yelled, “tell my story….” to anyone that could of heard me, I tried to put my thumb over it and it broke into more pieces.  Plenty of fuel emptied into the middle and pilot seat before I could rig up the hose and water container to collect it.  Fun.

Glad it broke on the ground as I easily could have tapped it in flight and the same thing would have happened.




Corbin

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N121CG


Re: Fuel Sight Tube Broke- pics included

 

Hi Corbin,
For what it's worth....
This may not have anything to do with your issue but the photo looks like the (once upon a time) clear plastic tubes supplied with the Quickies. 
Mine would discolor, get soft  at the tank and shrink.  The top, further from the tank, would crack.  Fuel don't actually travel up the tub only the dowel.
After changing several through the years I called McMaster Carr for some guidance.  
When I told the guy that I had been using a clear plastic tubing called Tygothane, I believe, he asked who told me to use that.  I had been getting it from them all these years.  He knew that would not work.  The catalogue even said it was fuel resistant as I remember.  I might add that I couldn't find it in their catalogue this time.
Instead he recommended Pyrex tubing.  You know the glass cookware stuff.  Worried how to cut it to length turned out not to be an issue.  Just scored the tube
with a Dremel cut off wheel until it came apart.  That was just prior to OSH 2019.  It is as clear as a bell and virtually indestructible.  
To cut it I ran it through another plastic tube and squeezed with a vice enough that the Pyrex would turn inside the softer tubing with some resistance so
the Dremel wheel would slowly spin it and make a nice even cut.  That Pyrex glass is very hard so the cutoff wheel was very slow but got the job done and no scratches.
Obviously a lathe would have been better but me don't have one.
Maybe this helps. Keith
 
 
 
 
 


---------- Original Message ----------
From: "Corbin via groups.io" <c_geiser@...>
To: Q List <main@q-list.groups.io>
Subject: [Q-List] Fuel Sight Tube Broke- pics included
Date: Thu, 6 May 2021 12:03:44 -0500

Brittle little tubes these are.  I’m starting the new panel build and was emptying the header tank.  I barely touched the sight gauge so I could watch the fuel quantity decreased.  It cracked immediately and fuel started to spray.  As I panicked and yelled, “tell my story….” to anyone that could of heard me, I tried to put my thumb over it and it broke into more pieces.  Plenty of fuel emptied into the middle and pilot seat before I could rig up the hose and water container to collect it.  Fun.

Glad it broke on the ground as I easily could have tapped it in flight and the same thing would have happened.




Corbin

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Re: Today's Progress

Corbin
 

That’s great, Michael!  Solid progress right there.

Corbin

On May 6, 2021, at 5:49 PM, Michael <dunningme@...> wrote:

Just finished running the 4 control cables in the tail...No wonder the last guy quit before getting to this step! I tried wearing the tail cone as a hat, like Jay suggested, but ended up doing the old Army crawl instead.

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Obligatory airplane selfie:

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I also popped my "Dremel an Airplane" cherry and made clearance for the new brake mount. Big shout out to "Sawzall Sam" for inspiring me on how these airplanes really get (re)built. Must have watched that video a dozen times last night to build up my confidence :-)

<PXL_20210506_182441532.jpg>


'til next time,
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#2827 (still thinking about planning on visualizing how to finish building)

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Corbin 
N121CG


Today's Progress

Michael
 

Just finished running the 4 control cables in the tail...No wonder the last guy quit before getting to this step! I tried wearing the tail cone as a hat, like Jay suggested, but ended up doing the old Army crawl instead.



Obligatory airplane selfie:



I also popped my "Dremel an Airplane" cherry and made clearance for the new brake mount. Big shout out to "Sawzall Sam" for inspiring me on how these airplanes really get (re)built. Must have watched that video a dozen times last night to build up my confidence :-)



'til next time,
--
-MD
#2827 (still thinking about planning on visualizing how to finish building)


Re: Fuel Sight Tube Broke- pics included

Jay Scheevel
 

Move to the high desert, Mike 😊  The only one that should listen to my advice should be Charlie….or vice versa.  No offense Jon Finley, but you have gone over to the dark side anyway with the whole RV thing.

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Dwyer
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2021 4:21 PM
To: main@q-list.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Fuel Sight Tube Broke- pics included

 

I had a capacitive sender in my header tank but could never trust that thing.  I've gone back to a sight gauge.  

Mike Q200 N3QP

 

On Thu, May 6, 2021, 5:16 PM Mike Steinsland <MIKESKUSTOMS@...> wrote:

Glad this topic came up because this is something that has haunted my thinking since the first time I saw the panel of a Q2!

 

I like the idea of doubling up, or just putting a gauge in the tank.

 

On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 4:06 PM Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote:

That’s a great idea, Bruce. Wish I had thought of that while building. I would have put a corning tempered glass “sight glass” as the sight gauge and then covered the whole length of it with a clear vinyl tube clamped on both ends. The fuel would only come in contact with the glass unless that glass broke and if it did that, then the vinyl would hold everything together without a spill until a repair could be made.

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bruce Crain
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2021 1:40 PM
To: main@q-list.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Fuel Sight Tube Broke- pics included

 

Use a larger hose piece that fits over the original fuel hose.  It gives a bigger diameter for the hose clamp to tighten up against and holds the underneath hose better.  You can split the smaller outer hose lengthwise if it won’t quite fit over the inside hose.  Heck you can use two hoses over the inside one if you like!

Bruce Crain

 

On May 6, 2021, at 1:27 PM, Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser@...> wrote:



Honestly, I thought it was discolored by design.  I know some are clear but I thought this was tinted tubing.

 

Corbin Ge!ser


On May 6, 2021 at 12:49 PM, Mike Dwyer <q200pilot@...> wrote:

Yes, those are a yearly replacement item.  Looks like yours might be 5+ years old!  When they are no longer clear, your on borrowed time!  Same thing with the header tank overflow tubing.

Mike Dwyer

 

Q200 Website: http://goo.gl/V8IrJF

 

 

On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 1:04 PM Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:

Brittle little tubes these are.  I’m starting the new panel build and was emptying the header tank.  I barely touched the sight gauge so I could watch the fuel quantity decreased.  It cracked immediately and fuel started to spray.  As I panicked and yelled, “tell my story….” to anyone that could of heard me, I tried to put my thumb over it and it broke into more pieces.  Plenty of fuel emptied into the middle and pilot seat before I could rig up the hose and water container to collect it.  Fun.

Glad it broke on the ground as I easily could have tapped it in flight and the same thing would have happened.




Corbin

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Rope Vibration isolator

Mike Dwyer
 

For you camera guys.  I ran across this vibration isolator.  Looks easy to build.  I checked out some YouTube videos of people using them and they work great.

Mike Dwyer N3QP Q200

Q200 Website: http://goo.gl/V8IrJF


Re: Fuel Sight Tube Broke- pics included

Mike Dwyer
 

I had a capacitive sender in my header tank but could never trust that thing.  I've gone back to a sight gauge.  
Mike Q200 N3QP

On Thu, May 6, 2021, 5:16 PM Mike Steinsland <MIKESKUSTOMS@...> wrote:
Glad this topic came up because this is something that has haunted my thinking since the first time I saw the panel of a Q2!

I like the idea of doubling up, or just putting a gauge in the tank.

On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 4:06 PM Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote:

That’s a great idea, Bruce. Wish I had thought of that while building. I would have put a corning tempered glass “sight glass” as the sight gauge and then covered the whole length of it with a clear vinyl tube clamped on both ends. The fuel would only come in contact with the glass unless that glass broke and if it did that, then the vinyl would hold everything together without a spill until a repair could be made.

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bruce Crain
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2021 1:40 PM
To: main@q-list.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Fuel Sight Tube Broke- pics included

 

Use a larger hose piece that fits over the original fuel hose.  It gives a bigger diameter for the hose clamp to tighten up against and holds the underneath hose better.  You can split the smaller outer hose lengthwise if it won’t quite fit over the inside hose.  Heck you can use two hoses over the inside one if you like!

Bruce Crain



On May 6, 2021, at 1:27 PM, Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser@...> wrote:



Honestly, I thought it was discolored by design.  I know some are clear but I thought this was tinted tubing.

 

Corbin Ge!ser


On May 6, 2021 at 12:49 PM, Mike Dwyer <q200pilot@...> wrote:

Yes, those are a yearly replacement item.  Looks like yours might be 5+ years old!  When they are no longer clear, your on borrowed time!  Same thing with the header tank overflow tubing.

Mike Dwyer

 

Q200 Website: http://goo.gl/V8IrJF

 

 

On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 1:04 PM Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:

Brittle little tubes these are.  I’m starting the new panel build and was emptying the header tank.  I barely touched the sight gauge so I could watch the fuel quantity decreased.  It cracked immediately and fuel started to spray.  As I panicked and yelled, “tell my story….” to anyone that could of heard me, I tried to put my thumb over it and it broke into more pieces.  Plenty of fuel emptied into the middle and pilot seat before I could rig up the hose and water container to collect it.  Fun.

Glad it broke on the ground as I easily could have tapped it in flight and the same thing would have happened.




Corbin

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N121CG

 



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Re: Fuel Sight Tube Broke- pics included

Bruce Crain
 

I meant only a short piece to go over the aluminum tubing.  About 2” in length.  Sounds like a new idea with the Corning though!
Bruce



On May 6, 2021, at 3:06 PM, Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote:



That’s a great idea, Bruce. Wish I had thought of that while building. I would have put a corning tempered glass “sight glass” as the sight gauge and then covered the whole length of it with a clear vinyl tube clamped on both ends. The fuel would only come in contact with the glass unless that glass broke and if it did that, then the vinyl would hold everything together without a spill until a repair could be made.

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bruce Crain
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2021 1:40 PM
To: main@q-list.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Fuel Sight Tube Broke- pics included

 

Use a larger hose piece that fits over the original fuel hose.  It gives a bigger diameter for the hose clamp to tighten up against and holds the underneath hose better.  You can split the smaller outer hose lengthwise if it won’t quite fit over the inside hose.  Heck you can use two hoses over the inside one if you like!

Bruce Crain



On May 6, 2021, at 1:27 PM, Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser@...> wrote:



Honestly, I thought it was discolored by design.  I know some are clear but I thought this was tinted tubing.

 

Corbin Ge!ser


On May 6, 2021 at 12:49 PM, Mike Dwyer <q200pilot@...> wrote:

Yes, those are a yearly replacement item.  Looks like yours might be 5+ years old!  When they are no longer clear, your on borrowed time!  Same thing with the header tank overflow tubing.

 

 

On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 1:04 PM Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:

Brittle little tubes these are.  I’m starting the new panel build and was emptying the header tank.  I barely touched the sight gauge so I could watch the fuel quantity decreased.  It cracked immediately and fuel started to spray.  As I panicked and yelled, “tell my story….” to anyone that could of heard me, I tried to put my thumb over it and it broke into more pieces.  Plenty of fuel emptied into the middle and pilot seat before I could rig up the hose and water container to collect it.  Fun.

Glad it broke on the ground as I easily could have tapped it in flight and the same thing would have happened.




Corbin

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Re: Fuel Sight Tube Broke- pics included

Jim Patillo
 

I avoided the entire issue by installing 2 fuel gauges/sending units, one in main and one in header, with low level light annunciator in header tank. It's much cleaner and gets rid of that ugly sight gauge. . Also I run 3/8" fuel line and have no rubber hand fuel pump. Been working fine for 21 years. Just another option.

Jim
N46JP Q200
 


From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...>
Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 12:39 PM
To: main@q-list.groups.io <main@q-list.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Fuel Sight Tube Broke- pics included
 
Use a larger hose piece that fits over the original fuel hose.  It gives a bigger diameter for the hose clamp to tighten up against and holds the underneath hose better.  You can split the smaller outer hose lengthwise if it won’t quite fit over the inside hose.  Heck you can use two hoses over the inside one if you like!
Bruce Crain


On May 6, 2021, at 1:27 PM, Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser@...> wrote:


Honestly, I thought it was discolored by design.  I know some are clear but I thought this was tinted tubing.

Corbin Ge!ser

On May 6, 2021 at 12:49 PM, Mike Dwyer <q200pilot@...> wrote:

Yes, those are a yearly replacement item.  Looks like yours might be 5+ years old!  When they are no longer clear, your on borrowed time!  Same thing with the header tank overflow tubing.


On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 1:04 PM Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
Brittle little tubes these are.  I’m starting the new panel build and was emptying the header tank.  I barely touched the sight gauge so I could watch the fuel quantity decreased.  It cracked immediately and fuel started to spray.  As I panicked and yelled, “tell my story….” to anyone that could of heard me, I tried to put my thumb over it and it broke into more pieces.  Plenty of fuel emptied into the middle and pilot seat before I could rig up the hose and water container to collect it.  Fun.

Glad it broke on the ground as I easily could have tapped it in flight and the same thing would have happened.




Corbin

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Re: Fuel Sight Tube Broke- pics included

Mike Steinsland
 

Glad this topic came up because this is something that has haunted my thinking since the first time I saw the panel of a Q2!

I like the idea of doubling up, or just putting a gauge in the tank.

On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 4:06 PM Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote:

That’s a great idea, Bruce. Wish I had thought of that while building. I would have put a corning tempered glass “sight glass” as the sight gauge and then covered the whole length of it with a clear vinyl tube clamped on both ends. The fuel would only come in contact with the glass unless that glass broke and if it did that, then the vinyl would hold everything together without a spill until a repair could be made.

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bruce Crain
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2021 1:40 PM
To: main@q-list.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Fuel Sight Tube Broke- pics included

 

Use a larger hose piece that fits over the original fuel hose.  It gives a bigger diameter for the hose clamp to tighten up against and holds the underneath hose better.  You can split the smaller outer hose lengthwise if it won’t quite fit over the inside hose.  Heck you can use two hoses over the inside one if you like!

Bruce Crain



On May 6, 2021, at 1:27 PM, Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser@...> wrote:



Honestly, I thought it was discolored by design.  I know some are clear but I thought this was tinted tubing.

 

Corbin Ge!ser


On May 6, 2021 at 12:49 PM, Mike Dwyer <q200pilot@...> wrote:

Yes, those are a yearly replacement item.  Looks like yours might be 5+ years old!  When they are no longer clear, your on borrowed time!  Same thing with the header tank overflow tubing.

Mike Dwyer

 

Q200 Website: http://goo.gl/V8IrJF

 

 

On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 1:04 PM Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:

Brittle little tubes these are.  I’m starting the new panel build and was emptying the header tank.  I barely touched the sight gauge so I could watch the fuel quantity decreased.  It cracked immediately and fuel started to spray.  As I panicked and yelled, “tell my story….” to anyone that could of heard me, I tried to put my thumb over it and it broke into more pieces.  Plenty of fuel emptied into the middle and pilot seat before I could rig up the hose and water container to collect it.  Fun.

Glad it broke on the ground as I easily could have tapped it in flight and the same thing would have happened.




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Re: Fuel Sight Tube Broke- pics included

Jay Scheevel
 

That’s a great idea, Bruce. Wish I had thought of that while building. I would have put a corning tempered glass “sight glass” as the sight gauge and then covered the whole length of it with a clear vinyl tube clamped on both ends. The fuel would only come in contact with the glass unless that glass broke and if it did that, then the vinyl would hold everything together without a spill until a repair could be made.

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bruce Crain
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2021 1:40 PM
To: main@q-list.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Fuel Sight Tube Broke- pics included

 

Use a larger hose piece that fits over the original fuel hose.  It gives a bigger diameter for the hose clamp to tighten up against and holds the underneath hose better.  You can split the smaller outer hose lengthwise if it won’t quite fit over the inside hose.  Heck you can use two hoses over the inside one if you like!

Bruce Crain



On May 6, 2021, at 1:27 PM, Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser@...> wrote:



Honestly, I thought it was discolored by design.  I know some are clear but I thought this was tinted tubing.

 

Corbin Ge!ser


On May 6, 2021 at 12:49 PM, Mike Dwyer <q200pilot@...> wrote:

Yes, those are a yearly replacement item.  Looks like yours might be 5+ years old!  When they are no longer clear, your on borrowed time!  Same thing with the header tank overflow tubing.

 

 

On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 1:04 PM Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:

Brittle little tubes these are.  I’m starting the new panel build and was emptying the header tank.  I barely touched the sight gauge so I could watch the fuel quantity decreased.  It cracked immediately and fuel started to spray.  As I panicked and yelled, “tell my story….” to anyone that could of heard me, I tried to put my thumb over it and it broke into more pieces.  Plenty of fuel emptied into the middle and pilot seat before I could rig up the hose and water container to collect it.  Fun.

Glad it broke on the ground as I easily could have tapped it in flight and the same thing would have happened.




Corbin

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