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Re: W and B

Jerry Marstall
 

My battery is where Bruce mounted his.
Jerry 

On Tue, Jul 6, 2021, 8:52 AM Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...> wrote:
One of our TriQ 200s had a 9 lb weight way back in the tail.  When flown with two people it had and almost uncontrollable PIO!  The 9 lb weight was removed and the battery was moved forward to just behind the seat back. It flew just fine after that.  Be sure you do calcs for full fuel loaded passengers and luggage to see if you are out of the envelope aft.  
I moved the battery forward in my TriQ200 to the right just beside the passengers calf on the canard and have flown it for years.
Just saying do all the possible loaded configurations not just an empty calc.
Bruce

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Chris,

 
Can anything be relocated aft of present position? Every pound moved aft no matter where on the airframe makes a difference. Give everything a critical why does it have to be located there.
 
Just a thought before adding dead weight. With my Corvair/Dragonfly I had to locate the battery aft of the wing. It still was not enough so I went to a heavier battery. Odyssey 925 solved wt and bal plus carries more amp hrs. Duel function and it is not a Bob weight on a long arm that suffers inertial effects.
 
Regards,
 
Charlie 





On Sunday, July 4, 2021, 7:28 PM, Chris Walterson <dkeats@...> wrote:

  Jay-------  Thanks for the info. I think I may have been using 54.7
for my pilot loading.

 As I said before, I will do a real world weight and balance to make
sure it is correct.

 Let me pass something by the guys. If I need  twenty or more lbs near
the back bulkhead to get the

proper tail wheel load, I was thinking, because I don't exactly have a Q
rudder and stab, why don't I load

closer to the tail wheel. I was thinking of removing  the rudder and
boring a 5/8 hole down the stab, full length.

 My stab has a spar so I  can drill just forward of it. Fill the 5/8
steel pipe with lead , weight it and slide it down the hole with flox

 and epoxi. I could also slide a pipe filled with lead inside the
rudder tube  itself and rivet/ glue it in place.

My rudder is mass balanced, but the lead is at the balance point so it
should not pose a problem.

I could also bend some 3/8 metal to fit inside the tail wheel mount for
maybe 1/2 lb more.

 I think doing something like this i could reduce the actual weight
needed by half.

 I realize pot is legal in Canada, but I didn't really use any, just
thinking in the abstract.

 Any comments appreciated. Now to clean up the garage for next
Saturday. Hopefully a week is long enough.

 Take care-----------------  Chris


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Re: W and B

Bruce Crain
 

One of our TriQ 200s had a 9 lb weight way back in the tail.  When flown with two people it had and almost uncontrollable PIO!  The 9 lb weight was removed and the battery was moved forward to just behind the seat back. It flew just fine after that.  Be sure you do calcs for full fuel loaded passengers and luggage to see if you are out of the envelope aft.  
I moved the battery forward in my TriQ200 to the right just beside the passengers calf on the canard and have flown it for years.
Just saying do all the possible loaded configurations not just an empty calc.
Bruce


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Subject: Re: [Q-List] W and B
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2021 13:18:03 +0000 (UTC)

Chris,

 
Can anything be relocated aft of present position? Every pound moved aft no matter where on the airframe makes a difference. Give everything a critical why does it have to be located there.
 
Just a thought before adding dead weight. With my Corvair/Dragonfly I had to locate the battery aft of the wing. It still was not enough so I went to a heavier battery. Odyssey 925 solved wt and bal plus carries more amp hrs. Duel function and it is not a Bob weight on a long arm that suffers inertial effects.
 
Regards,
 
Charlie 





On Sunday, July 4, 2021, 7:28 PM, Chris Walterson <dkeats@...> wrote:

  Jay-------  Thanks for the info. I think I may have been using 54.7
for my pilot loading.

 As I said before, I will do a real world weight and balance to make
sure it is correct.

 Let me pass something by the guys. If I need  twenty or more lbs near
the back bulkhead to get the

proper tail wheel load, I was thinking, because I don't exactly have a Q
rudder and stab, why don't I load

closer to the tail wheel. I was thinking of removing  the rudder and
boring a 5/8 hole down the stab, full length.

 My stab has a spar so I  can drill just forward of it. Fill the 5/8
steel pipe with lead , weight it and slide it down the hole with flox

 and epoxi. I could also slide a pipe filled with lead inside the
rudder tube  itself and rivet/ glue it in place.

My rudder is mass balanced, but the lead is at the balance point so it
should not pose a problem.

I could also bend some 3/8 metal to fit inside the tail wheel mount for
maybe 1/2 lb more.

 I think doing something like this i could reduce the actual weight
needed by half.

 I realize pot is legal in Canada, but I didn't really use any, just
thinking in the abstract.

 Any comments appreciated. Now to clean up the garage for next
Saturday. Hopefully a week is long enough.

 Take care-----------------  Chris


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Re: O-200 with very low hours 80ish had prop strike but supposed to have no Crank damage. 4,000$

Sam Hoskins
 

It's not just the crankshaft flange runout that requires inspection after a prop strike. Per Continental the engine should be torn down and properly inspected.

Sam 

On Tue, Jul 6, 2021, 4:18 AM victor taylor via groups.io <velocityoner=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Brain I would be interested in the O-200. Please PM me at 251 three 77 five two one six.

Victor Taylor
Irvington Alabama

On Jul 5, 2021, at 22:24, Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:

I would never ask for a finders fee for helping someone sell their plane or project.  

Corbin

On Jul 5, 2021, at 9:04 PM, Brian Hutchinson via groups.io <brianmh13=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:



[Edited Message Follows]

Wanted to see if I could get a little finder's fee for this 0-200. Guy is clearing out his hanger and said his 0-200 has around 80 original hours had a propstrike from a ground loop when he was learning to fly a tailwheel. Says that the Crank was dialed and looks fine. Is asking 4,000. I think that's probably a pretty good deal if everything checks out. Located in Indiana. The guy lives in Florida and while this engine could be low hours as he said seems a 80ish original hours engine is pretty unheard of. He could be trying to pass off a high time airboat motor? If due diligence is conducted could be a deal though.

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Re: O-200 with very low hours 80ish had prop strike but supposed to have no Crank damage. 4,000$

victor taylor
 

Brain I would be interested in the O-200. Please PM me at 251 three 77 five two one six.

Victor Taylor
Irvington Alabama

On Jul 5, 2021, at 22:24, Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser@...> wrote:

I would never ask for a finders fee for helping someone sell their plane or project.  

Corbin

On Jul 5, 2021, at 9:04 PM, Brian Hutchinson via groups.io <brianmh13@...> wrote:



[Edited Message Follows]

Wanted to see if I could get a little finder's fee for this 0-200. Guy is clearing out his hanger and said his 0-200 has around 80 original hours had a propstrike from a ground loop when he was learning to fly a tailwheel. Says that the Crank was dialed and looks fine. Is asking 4,000. I think that's probably a pretty good deal if everything checks out. Located in Indiana. The guy lives in Florida and while this engine could be low hours as he said seems a 80ish original hours engine is pretty unheard of. He could be trying to pass off a high time airboat motor? If due diligence is conducted could be a deal though.

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Re: O-200 with very low hours 80ish had prop strike but supposed to have no Crank damage. 4,000$

Corbin
 

I would never ask for a finders fee for helping someone sell their plane or project.  

Corbin

On Jul 5, 2021, at 9:04 PM, Brian Hutchinson via groups.io <brianmh13@...> wrote:



[Edited Message Follows]

Wanted to see if I could get a little finder's fee for this 0-200. Guy is clearing out his hanger and said his 0-200 has around 80 original hours had a propstrike from a ground loop when he was learning to fly a tailwheel. Says that the Crank was dialed and looks fine. Is asking 4,000. I think that's probably a pretty good deal if everything checks out. Located in Indiana. The guy lives in Florida and while this engine could be low hours as he said seems a 80ish original hours engine is pretty unheard of. He could be trying to pass off a high time airboat motor? If due diligence is conducted could be a deal though.

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O-200 with very low hours 80ish had prop strike but supposed to have no Crank damage. 4,000$

Brian Hutchinson
 
Edited

Wanted to see if I could get a little finder's fee for this 0-200. Guy is clearing out his hanger and said his 0-200 has around 80 original hours had a propstrike from a ground loop when he was learning to fly a tailwheel. Says that the Crank was dialed and looks fine. Is asking 4,000. I think that's probably a pretty good deal if everything checks out. Located in Indiana. The guy lives in Florida and while this engine could be low hours as he said seems a 80ish original hours engine is pretty unheard of. He could be trying to pass off a high time airboat motor? If due diligence is conducted could be a deal though.


Re: W and B

smeshno1@...
 

something over 24 lbs with the rack/hold down.  


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Sent: Monday, July 5, 2021 8:18 AM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] W and B
 
Chris,

Can anything be relocated aft of present position? Every pound moved aft no matter where on the airframe makes a difference. Give everything a critical why does it have to be located there.

Just a thought before adding dead weight. With my Corvair/Dragonfly I had to locate the battery aft of the wing. It still was not enough so I went to a heavier battery. Odyssey 925 solved wt and bal plus carries more amp hrs. Duel function and it is not a Bob weight on a long arm that suffers inertial effects.

Regards,

Charlie 





On Sunday, July 4, 2021, 7:28 PM, Chris Walterson <dkeats@...> wrote:

  Jay-------  Thanks for the info. I think I may have been using 54.7
for my pilot loading.

 As I said before, I will do a real world weight and balance to make
sure it is correct.

 Let me pass something by the guys. If I need  twenty or more lbs near
the back bulkhead to get the

proper tail wheel load, I was thinking, because I don't exactly have a Q
rudder and stab, why don't I load

closer to the tail wheel. I was thinking of removing  the rudder and
boring a 5/8 hole down the stab, full length.

 My stab has a spar so I  can drill just forward of it. Fill the 5/8
steel pipe with lead , weight it and slide it down the hole with flox

 and epoxi. I could also slide a pipe filled with lead inside the
rudder tube  itself and rivet/ glue it in place.

My rudder is mass balanced, but the lead is at the balance point so it
should not pose a problem.

I could also bend some 3/8 metal to fit inside the tail wheel mount for
maybe 1/2 lb more.

 I think doing something like this i could reduce the actual weight
needed by half.

 I realize pot is legal in Canada, but I didn't really use any, just
thinking in the abstract.

 Any comments appreciated. Now to clean up the garage for next
Saturday. Hopefully a week is long enough.

 Take care-----------------  Chris


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Re: W and B

Chris Walterson
 

Jay----------  Great video. I  followed Reg when  I installed the 1.8 turbo in my Dragonfly. 750 hrs airframe and 550 Subaru. Still works great, but you always want more.  I have a video on youtube  " dragonfly geraldton". It's not a Q, but still gets my blood flowing.

Take care----------  Chris


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Re: W and B

Chris Walterson
 

Charlie----------  I have as much in the back as I can. The rad is under the belly  as far back as the split line.

 I am using a 430 CC amp  17 lb battery installed behind the passenger seat, but against the wing bulkhead. I installed it here because it can be changed without  splitting the aircraft and if needed it can be boosted.

 If I had it to do over again, I would reinforce the tail section near the back bulkhead and make a removable cover large enough to install a battery.  Do the weight and balance and buy the appropriate battery. Easy to boost if need be.

 Another solution I could do would be to install another 17 lb battery  near the back bulkhead and wire it in serious with the other.

 Still thinking.  Take care-------------  Chris


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Re: W and B

smeshno1@...
 

 Charlie has a valid point, Chris. I'll have the same issue with Frankenbird so you'll have company with this revision. As Charlie points out.. we don't really NEED a heavier battery for the Corvair but the fact is the greater power reserve is good and mass we have to have anyway makes the revision a much better plan. I don't remember if your project is a Q2 base fuselage..but if so adding mass that far aft of the wing now brings the loads to the fuselage come into question, especially since we have a joint of the aft shells that Charlie does not have in the Dragonfly. That is..unless you plan to glass in the joint with a 100 percent scarf so the entire fuselage is bonded; then maybe the added mass and inertia aft would be moot. Dunno about you but Maintenance and Conditional Inspections aught be as painless as possible. Removing the tail makes possible many options. 
Vern     


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Subject: Re: [Q-List] W and B
 
Chris,

Can anything be relocated aft of present position? Every pound moved aft no matter where on the airframe makes a difference. Give everything a critical why does it have to be located there.

Just a thought before adding dead weight. With my Corvair/Dragonfly I had to locate the battery aft of the wing. It still was not enough so I went to a heavier battery. Odyssey 925 solved wt and bal plus carries more amp hrs. Duel function and it is not a Bob weight on a long arm that suffers inertial effects.

Regards,

Charlie 





On Sunday, July 4, 2021, 7:28 PM, Chris Walterson <dkeats@...> wrote:

  Jay-------  Thanks for the info. I think I may have been using 54.7
for my pilot loading.

 As I said before, I will do a real world weight and balance to make
sure it is correct.

 Let me pass something by the guys. If I need  twenty or more lbs near
the back bulkhead to get the

proper tail wheel load, I was thinking, because I don't exactly have a Q
rudder and stab, why don't I load

closer to the tail wheel. I was thinking of removing  the rudder and
boring a 5/8 hole down the stab, full length.

 My stab has a spar so I  can drill just forward of it. Fill the 5/8
steel pipe with lead , weight it and slide it down the hole with flox

 and epoxi. I could also slide a pipe filled with lead inside the
rudder tube  itself and rivet/ glue it in place.

My rudder is mass balanced, but the lead is at the balance point so it
should not pose a problem.

I could also bend some 3/8 metal to fit inside the tail wheel mount for
maybe 1/2 lb more.

 I think doing something like this i could reduce the actual weight
needed by half.

 I realize pot is legal in Canada, but I didn't really use any, just
thinking in the abstract.

 Any comments appreciated. Now to clean up the garage for next
Saturday. Hopefully a week is long enough.

 Take care-----------------  Chris


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Re: W and B

Jay Scheevel
 

Hi Chris,

Not sure I can visualize what you are describing below, but no mind. Maybe after Saturday I will understand. In the meantime, here is a little inspiration video for you. Same plane, same engine, same prop as you.
https://youtu.be/JcNPc-gYaIc

Cheers,
Jay

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Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2021 7:29 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] W and B

Jay------- Thanks for the info. I think I may have been using 54.7 for my pilot loading.

As I said before, I will do a real world weight and balance to make sure it is correct.

Let me pass something by the guys. If I need twenty or more lbs near the back bulkhead to get the

proper tail wheel load, I was thinking, because I don't exactly have a Q rudder and stab, why don't I load

closer to the tail wheel. I was thinking of removing the rudder and boring a 5/8 hole down the stab, full length.

My stab has a spar so I can drill just forward of it. Fill the 5/8 steel pipe with lead , weight it and slide it down the hole with flox

and epoxi. I could also slide a pipe filled with lead inside the rudder tube itself and rivet/ glue it in place.

My rudder is mass balanced, but the lead is at the balance point so it should not pose a problem.

I could also bend some 3/8 metal to fit inside the tail wheel mount for maybe 1/2 lb more.

I think doing something like this i could reduce the actual weight needed by half.

I realize pot is legal in Canada, but I didn't really use any, just thinking in the abstract.

Any comments appreciated. Now to clean up the garage for next Saturday. Hopefully a week is long enough.

Take care----------------- Chris


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Re: Chris Walterson Q-2 Q-Tour - in progress - July 10 9:00 Central time

Anthony P
 

Great idea, Sam, Chris, and all.

Can't wait!

That side exhaust looks like a tiny turboprop. :)


Re: W and B

One Sky Dog
 

Chris,

Can anything be relocated aft of present position? Every pound moved aft no matter where on the airframe makes a difference. Give everything a critical why does it have to be located there.

Just a thought before adding dead weight. With my Corvair/Dragonfly I had to locate the battery aft of the wing. It still was not enough so I went to a heavier battery. Odyssey 925 solved wt and bal plus carries more amp hrs. Duel function and it is not a Bob weight on a long arm that suffers inertial effects.

Regards,

On Sunday, July 4, 2021, 7:28 PM, Chris Walterson <dkeats@...> wrote:

  Jay-------  Thanks for the info. I think I may have been using 54.7
for my pilot loading.

 As I said before, I will do a real world weight and balance to make
sure it is correct.

 Let me pass something by the guys. If I need  twenty or more lbs near
the back bulkhead to get the

proper tail wheel load, I was thinking, because I don't exactly have a Q
rudder and stab, why don't I load

closer to the tail wheel. I was thinking of removing  the rudder and
boring a 5/8 hole down the stab, full length.

 My stab has a spar so I  can drill just forward of it. Fill the 5/8
steel pipe with lead , weight it and slide it down the hole with flox

 and epoxi. I could also slide a pipe filled with lead inside the
rudder tube  itself and rivet/ glue it in place.

My rudder is mass balanced, but the lead is at the balance point so it
should not pose a problem.

I could also bend some 3/8 metal to fit inside the tail wheel mount for
maybe 1/2 lb more.

 I think doing something like this i could reduce the actual weight
needed by half.

 I realize pot is legal in Canada, but I didn't really use any, just
thinking in the abstract.

 Any comments appreciated. Now to clean up the garage for next
Saturday. Hopefully a week is long enough.

 Take care-----------------  Chris


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Re: W and B

Chris Walterson
 

Jay-------  Thanks for the info. I think I may have been using 54.7 for my pilot loading.

 As I said before, I will do a real world weight and balance to make sure it is correct.

 Let me pass something by the guys. If I need  twenty or more lbs near the back bulkhead to get the

proper tail wheel load, I was thinking, because I don't exactly have a Q rudder and stab, why don't I load

closer to the tail wheel. I was thinking of removing  the rudder and boring a 5/8 hole down the stab, full length.

 My stab has a spar so I  can drill just forward of it. Fill the 5/8 steel pipe with lead , weight it and slide it down the hole with flox

 and epoxi. I could also slide a pipe filled with lead inside the rudder tube  itself and rivet/ glue it in place.

My rudder is mass balanced, but the lead is at the balance point so it should not pose a problem.

I could also bend some 3/8 metal to fit inside the tail wheel mount for maybe 1/2 lb more.

 I think doing something like this i could reduce the actual weight needed by half.

 I realize pot is legal in Canada, but I didn't really use any, just thinking in the abstract.

 Any comments appreciated. Now to clean up the garage for next Saturday. Hopefully a week is long enough.

 Take care-----------------  Chris


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Re: Chris Walterson Q-2 Q-Tour - in progress - July 10 9:00 Central time

Corbin
 

Great looking Q-2!

Corbin

On Jul 4, 2021, at 5:56 PM, Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@...> wrote:


From Geraldton, Ontario, Canada join Chris (AKA Dorothea Keats) as he gives a tour of his turbo powered 2.5L Subaru, direct drive, Q-2 project, which is nearing completion.   This installation is using a three blade Warp drive ground adjustable prop. It's a tail dragger with inboard gear made from Ford main
leaf springs. 

Having an aircraft that has not yet flown is a first for our Q-Tours.  We hope that it may be useful for people who are still making their own progress. This Q-Tour will be moderated by Paul Fisher and as always, the recording will be uploaded a couple of days later.  And as always, after our first Zoom time runs out we will log off, then right back on to complete the session.
   
To join the Q-Tour, click on the Zoom link at the end of this email. As always, don't log onto the meeting until the designated time.

Paul Fisher is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.

Topic: Chris Walterson Q2
Time: Jul 10, 2021 09:00 AM Central Time (US and Canada)

Join Zoom Meeting
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Chris Walterson Q-2 Q-Tour - in progress - July 10 9:00 Central time

Sam Hoskins
 

From Geraldton, Ontario, Canada join Chris (AKA Dorothea Keats) as he gives a tour of his turbo powered 2.5L Subaru, direct drive, Q-2 project, which is nearing completion.   This installation is using a three blade Warp drive ground adjustable prop. It's a tail dragger with inboard gear made from Ford main
leaf springs. 

Having an aircraft that has not yet flown is a first for our Q-Tours.  We hope that it may be useful for people who are still making their own progress. This Q-Tour will be moderated by Paul Fisher and as always, the recording will be uploaded a couple of days later.  And as always, after our first Zoom time runs out we will log off, then right back on to complete the session.
   
To join the Q-Tour, click on the Zoom link at the end of this email. As always, don't log onto the meeting until the designated time.

Paul Fisher is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.

Topic: Chris Walterson Q2
Time: Jul 10, 2021 09:00 AM Central Time (US and Canada)

Join Zoom Meeting
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Re: W and B

Jay Scheevel
 

Hi Chris,

 

Sorry for the delay. Here are my calculations. I think you are in the ballpark since you will be in the envelope with single pilot (provided you weigh more than your wife) with no fuel, since that is the most forward possible loading scenario in flight. You may need to adjust that 20 lb lead in the tail when you get your fuel and baggage arms sorted to keep you in bounds aft. I find that my plane is much more comfortable to fly if I am between 42 and 45, but that is just my preference, not what QAC says is possible.

 

My entire tail cone assembly weighs less than 30 pounds all up, so keep in mind that putting 20 pounds mass in the far aft tail cone will affect your yaw response and nimbleness. The large inertial mass will resist starting to move and also resist stopping moving. Just something to keep in mind, especially in a tail dragger with inboard mounted gear.

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

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Subject: Re: [Q-List] W and B

 

 Jay----------   When the aircraft is empty and level it will nose over due to no tail weight. If install 20 lbs at the aft bulkhead I get

 

10 lbs on the tail station 214-------  373 on both mains at station 35.5.  I have inboard gear that is 21.5 inches back from the front of the firewall.

 

 With my wife and no fuel we get 33lbs at 214    465 at 35.5 , pilot side and 425 at 35.5 passenger side.  Total 923 @ 41.8.

 

 I'll get the certified scales and do the pilot and fuel loading as the guys have been suggesting.

 

 Still having fun--------------  Chris

 

 

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Re: Q1 Fuselage comes up

Jay Scheevel
 

Hi Eugen,


I will let the Q1 builders answer your questions on the construction details, since I built a Q2 (Tri-Q2). However, I will share with you my method for cutting glass that worked well for me. It is sort a modified version of your glass roll dispenser. I covered the table with a sheet of vinyl to avoid snagging the weave. Having the table to cut on allows you to get accurate angles and cut dimensions. Here is an old photo of my set-up.

 

Thanks for keeping us involved in your project.

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Eugen Pilarski
Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2021 6:44 AM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Q1 Fuselage comes up

 

Dear Q-Team,

in the plans on Page 07-13 the fuselage outside glassing start, please find the link below Page 07-13

Did I understand the Q1 plans right, that only the area between STA 14.8 and STA 110 the BID glass will be placed under the angel of 45° based on WTL 15? After STA 110 to STA 153 the BID glas direction will be at 90° to WTL15 ?!? Because the picture indicate a glass area of 52" to 12" with a 90° direction to the WL 15 or did I understand it in wrong way? Please find the picture in the attachment. 

After that procedure the UNI will place on the fuselage from seat bulkhead to the firewall under 45° based on WL15.

Did you guys cut the requested glass-pages and placed it on the fuselage or you use a fiberglass roller dispenser? Please find a picture in the attachment and the link of the source roller dispenser , please scroll a bit down.
 


Best regards 

Eugen 


Re: Q1 Fuselage comes up

Eugen Pilarski
 

Dear Q-Team,

in the plans on Page 07-13 the fuselage outside glassing start, please find the link below Page 07-13

Did I understand the Q1 plans right, that only the area between STA 14.8 and STA 110 the BID glass will be placed under the angel of 45° based on WTL 15? After STA 110 to STA 153 the BID glas direction will be at 90° to WTL15 ?!? Because the picture indicate a glass area of 52" to 12" with a 90° direction to the WL 15 or did I understand it in wrong way? Please find the picture in the attachment. 

After that procedure the UNI will place on the fuselage from seat bulkhead to the firewall under 45° based on WL15.

Did you guys cut the requested glass-pages and placed it on the fuselage or you use a fiberglass roller dispenser? Please find a picture in the attachment and the link of the source roller dispenser , please scroll a bit down.
 


Best regards 

Eugen 


Re: W and B

Sam Hoskins
 

A proper weight and balance must be performed on every aircraft, using a logical method, taking it from scratch. The EAA has an excellent series on how to do this. You must be an EAA member to view the program. 

Kitplanes magazine also had an excellent article with an accompanying spreadsheet for entertaining your data. 


I hope this helps. 

Sam 


On Fri, Jul 2, 2021, 8:14 PM Chris Walterson <dkeats@...> wrote:
  Jay----------   When the aircraft is empty and level it will nose over
due to no tail weight. If install 20 lbs at the aft bulkhead I get

10 lbs on the tail station 214-------  373 on both mains at station
35.5.  I have inboard gear that is 21.5 inches back from the front of
the firewall.

  With my wife and no fuel we get 33lbs at 214    465 at 35.5 , pilot
side and 425 at 35.5 passenger side.  Total 923 @ 41.8.

  I'll get the certified scales and do the pilot and fuel loading as the
guys have been suggesting.

  Still having fun--------------  Chris


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