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Re: Flight Report

Paul Poulsen
 

As always a great report Mike :) Video to follow?
Clear skies and Tailwinds Matey
Paul


On Sun, Aug 1, 2021 at 4:52 AM Mike Dwyer <q200pilot@...> wrote:
Had a nice flight today.  Was 10K gusting to 16 on takeoff but right down the runway so that's great.  Lots of puffy clouds to probably 7000 feet.  Of course I never got close to the clouds.  Played the "get between the clouds and the sun and you'll see the shadow of your plane circled in a rainbow" game.  The Tampa class B limits us to 6000 feet so we climbed to around 4000 and flew around the clouds.  It was sprinkling to the north and west but we didn't go into the rain.  ADS-B was showing the rain nicely tho.  I love having weather info in the cockpit!  Went up, went down, and circled around.  Hey, that sounds like a line from Dr Seuss.

Check out my flight path.  
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Mike Dwyer
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Q200 Website: http://goo.gl/V8IrJF



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Flight Report

Mike Dwyer
 

Had a nice flight today.  Was 10K gusting to 16 on takeoff but right down the runway so that's great.  Lots of puffy clouds to probably 7000 feet.  Of course I never got close to the clouds.  Played the "get between the clouds and the sun and you'll see the shadow of your plane circled in a rainbow" game.  The Tampa class B limits us to 6000 feet so we climbed to around 4000 and flew around the clouds.  It was sprinkling to the north and west but we didn't go into the rain.  ADS-B was showing the rain nicely tho.  I love having weather info in the cockpit!  Went up, went down, and circled around.  Hey, that sounds like a line from Dr Seuss.

Check out my flight path.  
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Mike Dwyer
Q200

Q200 Website: http://goo.gl/V8IrJF


Re: Elevator Weights or Something Else

Corbin
 

Mine are on both sides, like Jim's.  Can't wait to fly again...this avionics upgrade is taking forever but it will all be worth it.

Corbin

On July 30, 2021 at 5:42 PM, "Mike via groups.io" <n7000t@...> wrote:

Yep, I have one one the right side.  Jim Patillo has one on each side.  

Mike.   200QK



On Jul 30, 2021, at 3:18 PM, Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser@...> wrote:

Thanks Martin!  

Corbin

On Jul 30, 2021, at 5:06 PM, Martin Skiby <mskiby@...> wrote:

Corbin,  It is the counter balance weight for the elevator.  Prevents flutter.  Do not remove.



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Subject: Re: [Q-List] Elevator Weights or Something Else

Makes sense.  I have yet to play with the servo much to feel the resistance, if any at all.

Corbin 

On July 30, 2021 at 4:21 PM, Paul Fisher <rv7a.n18pf@...> wrote:

My opinion - a servo that is not engaged should have close to zero resistance, so no I think you should still have the elevators balanced.

On Fri, Jul 30, 2021, 16:11 Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser@...> wrote:
Follow-up question.  Would the resistance from a servo make the weights obsolete?

Corbin

On July 30, 2021 at 4:07 PM, "Corbin via groups.io" <c_geiser@...> wrote:

Thanks Paul and Cody.  That is what I have always thought (a weight) but now knowing it is for flutter that helps explain why it is fairly light as not much weight would be needed for that.

Thanks again,

Corbin 

On July 30, 2021 at 4:06 PM, Paul Fisher <rv7a.n18pf@...> wrote:

Yes, it's a counter weight to balance the elevators to prevent flutter (hopefully!).

Paul

On Fri, Jul 30, 2021, 15:53 Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser@...> wrote:
Hey all,

I’ve always assumed that the circled item is a weight of some kind connected to the elevator control.   

While we continue to work on the avionics , and locate a spot to mount a servo up front, I realize there’s hardly any weight to these at all.  I’ve also noticed in quite a few photos posted by this group that others don’t seem to have this mysterious object.

Any ideas on what the circle item could be if not a weight?





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Don’t miss the Future of Rutan Design Symposium

Ryszard Zadow
 

Saturday morning, 31 July at 8:30 am at Forum Stage 5.

Tomorrow’s forum will be an open mike discussion with an opening topic of canard safety records, aging pilots and insurance. More often it’s being heard that pilots are being dropped by their insurers simply due to their age. On stage will be Tracy Martin of Aviation Insurance Resources who have worked closely with RAFE on insurance for Rutan canards, along with Duane Swing, owner of Velocity aircraft and Leonard Milholland, designer of the Legal Eagle and 15 other aircraft plans built design, still designing and building at 95 year old.

We’re all headed there! Don’t miss this!

Ryszard


Re: Elevator Weights or Something Else

 

Yep, I have one one the right side.  Jim Patillo has one on each side.  

Mike.   200QK


On Jul 30, 2021, at 3:18 PM, Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser@...> wrote:

Thanks Martin!  

Corbin

On Jul 30, 2021, at 5:06 PM, Martin Skiby <mskiby@...> wrote:

Corbin,  It is the counter balance weight for the elevator.  Prevents flutter.  Do not remove.


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From: "Corbin via groups.io"
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Friday July 30 2021 2:24:02PM
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Elevator Weights or Something Else

Makes sense.  I have yet to play with the servo much to feel the resistance, if any at all.

Corbin 

On July 30, 2021 at 4:21 PM, Paul Fisher <rv7a.n18pf@...> wrote:

My opinion - a servo that is not engaged should have close to zero resistance, so no I think you should still have the elevators balanced.

On Fri, Jul 30, 2021, 16:11 Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser@...> wrote:
Follow-up question.  Would the resistance from a servo make the weights obsolete?

Corbin

On July 30, 2021 at 4:07 PM, "Corbin via groups.io" <c_geiser@...> wrote:

Thanks Paul and Cody.  That is what I have always thought (a weight) but now knowing it is for flutter that helps explain why it is fairly light as not much weight would be needed for that.

Thanks again,

Corbin 

On July 30, 2021 at 4:06 PM, Paul Fisher <rv7a.n18pf@...> wrote:

Yes, it's a counter weight to balance the elevators to prevent flutter (hopefully!).

Paul

On Fri, Jul 30, 2021, 15:53 Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser@...> wrote:
Hey all,

I’ve always assumed that the circled item is a weight of some kind connected to the elevator control.   

While we continue to work on the avionics , and locate a spot to mount a servo up front, I realize there’s hardly any weight to these at all.  I’ve also noticed in quite a few photos posted by this group that others don’t seem to have this mysterious object.

Any ideas on what the circle item could be if not a weight?





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Re: Elevator Weights or Something Else

Corbin
 

Thanks Martin!  

Corbin

On Jul 30, 2021, at 5:06 PM, Martin Skiby <mskiby@...> wrote:

Corbin,  It is the counter balance weight for the elevator.  Prevents flutter.  Do not remove.


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From: "Corbin via groups.io"
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Friday July 30 2021 2:24:02PM
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Elevator Weights or Something Else

Makes sense.  I have yet to play with the servo much to feel the resistance, if any at all.

Corbin 

On July 30, 2021 at 4:21 PM, Paul Fisher <rv7a.n18pf@...> wrote:

My opinion - a servo that is not engaged should have close to zero resistance, so no I think you should still have the elevators balanced.

On Fri, Jul 30, 2021, 16:11 Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser@...> wrote:
Follow-up question.  Would the resistance from a servo make the weights obsolete?

Corbin

On July 30, 2021 at 4:07 PM, "Corbin via groups.io" <c_geiser@...> wrote:

Thanks Paul and Cody.  That is what I have always thought (a weight) but now knowing it is for flutter that helps explain why it is fairly light as not much weight would be needed for that.

Thanks again,

Corbin 

On July 30, 2021 at 4:06 PM, Paul Fisher <rv7a.n18pf@...> wrote:

Yes, it's a counter weight to balance the elevators to prevent flutter (hopefully!).

Paul

On Fri, Jul 30, 2021, 15:53 Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser@...> wrote:
Hey all,

I’ve always assumed that the circled item is a weight of some kind connected to the elevator control.   

While we continue to work on the avionics , and locate a spot to mount a servo up front, I realize there’s hardly any weight to these at all.  I’ve also noticed in quite a few photos posted by this group that others don’t seem to have this mysterious object.

Any ideas on what the circle item could be if not a weight?





Corbin

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Re: Elevator Weights or Something Else

Martin Skiby
 

Corbin,  It is the counter balance weight for the elevator.  Prevents flutter.  Do not remove.


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From: "Corbin via groups.io"
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Friday July 30 2021 2:24:02PM
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Elevator Weights or Something Else

Makes sense.  I have yet to play with the servo much to feel the resistance, if any at all.

Corbin 

On July 30, 2021 at 4:21 PM, Paul Fisher <rv7a.n18pf@...> wrote:

My opinion - a servo that is not engaged should have close to zero resistance, so no I think you should still have the elevators balanced.

On Fri, Jul 30, 2021, 16:11 Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser@...> wrote:
Follow-up question.  Would the resistance from a servo make the weights obsolete?

Corbin

On July 30, 2021 at 4:07 PM, "Corbin via groups.io" <c_geiser@...> wrote:

Thanks Paul and Cody.  That is what I have always thought (a weight) but now knowing it is for flutter that helps explain why it is fairly light as not much weight would be needed for that.

Thanks again,

Corbin 

On July 30, 2021 at 4:06 PM, Paul Fisher <rv7a.n18pf@...> wrote:

Yes, it's a counter weight to balance the elevators to prevent flutter (hopefully!).

Paul

On Fri, Jul 30, 2021, 15:53 Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser@...> wrote:
Hey all,

I’ve always assumed that the circled item is a weight of some kind connected to the elevator control.   

While we continue to work on the avionics , and locate a spot to mount a servo up front, I realize there’s hardly any weight to these at all.  I’ve also noticed in quite a few photos posted by this group that others don’t seem to have this mysterious object.

Any ideas on what the circle item could be if not a weight?





Corbin

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Re: Elevator Weights or Something Else

Corbin
 

Makes sense.  I have yet to play with the servo much to feel the resistance, if any at all.

Corbin 

On July 30, 2021 at 4:21 PM, Paul Fisher <rv7a.n18pf@...> wrote:

My opinion - a servo that is not engaged should have close to zero resistance, so no I think you should still have the elevators balanced.

On Fri, Jul 30, 2021, 16:11 Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
Follow-up question.  Would the resistance from a servo make the weights obsolete?

Corbin

On July 30, 2021 at 4:07 PM, "Corbin via groups.io" <c_geiser=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:

Thanks Paul and Cody.  That is what I have always thought (a weight) but now knowing it is for flutter that helps explain why it is fairly light as not much weight would be needed for that.

Thanks again,

Corbin 

On July 30, 2021 at 4:06 PM, Paul Fisher <rv7a.n18pf@...> wrote:

Yes, it's a counter weight to balance the elevators to prevent flutter (hopefully!).

Paul

On Fri, Jul 30, 2021, 15:53 Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hey all,

I’ve always assumed that the circled item is a weight of some kind connected to the elevator control.   

While we continue to work on the avionics , and locate a spot to mount a servo up front, I realize there’s hardly any weight to these at all.  I’ve also noticed in quite a few photos posted by this group that others don’t seem to have this mysterious object.

Any ideas on what the circle item could be if not a weight?





Corbin

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Re: Elevator Weights or Something Else

Paul Fisher
 

My opinion - a servo that is not engaged should have close to zero resistance, so no I think you should still have the elevators balanced.


On Fri, Jul 30, 2021, 16:11 Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
Follow-up question.  Would the resistance from a servo make the weights obsolete?

Corbin

On July 30, 2021 at 4:07 PM, "Corbin via groups.io" <c_geiser=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:

Thanks Paul and Cody.  That is what I have always thought (a weight) but now knowing it is for flutter that helps explain why it is fairly light as not much weight would be needed for that.

Thanks again,

Corbin 

On July 30, 2021 at 4:06 PM, Paul Fisher <rv7a.n18pf@...> wrote:

Yes, it's a counter weight to balance the elevators to prevent flutter (hopefully!).

Paul

On Fri, Jul 30, 2021, 15:53 Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hey all,

I’ve always assumed that the circled item is a weight of some kind connected to the elevator control.   

While we continue to work on the avionics , and locate a spot to mount a servo up front, I realize there’s hardly any weight to these at all.  I’ve also noticed in quite a few photos posted by this group that others don’t seem to have this mysterious object.

Any ideas on what the circle item could be if not a weight?





Corbin

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Re: Elevator Weights or Something Else

Corbin
 

Follow-up question.  Would the resistance from a servo make the weights obsolete?

Corbin

On July 30, 2021 at 4:07 PM, "Corbin via groups.io" <c_geiser@...> wrote:

Thanks Paul and Cody.  That is what I have always thought (a weight) but now knowing it is for flutter that helps explain why it is fairly light as not much weight would be needed for that.

Thanks again,

Corbin 

On July 30, 2021 at 4:06 PM, Paul Fisher <rv7a.n18pf@...> wrote:

Yes, it's a counter weight to balance the elevators to prevent flutter (hopefully!).

Paul

On Fri, Jul 30, 2021, 15:53 Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hey all,

I’ve always assumed that the circled item is a weight of some kind connected to the elevator control.   

While we continue to work on the avionics , and locate a spot to mount a servo up front, I realize there’s hardly any weight to these at all.  I’ve also noticed in quite a few photos posted by this group that others don’t seem to have this mysterious object.

Any ideas on what the circle item could be if not a weight?





Corbin

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Re: Elevator Weights or Something Else

Corbin
 

Thanks Paul and Cody.  That is what I have always thought (a weight) but now knowing it is for flutter that helps explain why it is fairly light as not much weight would be needed for that.

Thanks again,

Corbin 

On July 30, 2021 at 4:06 PM, Paul Fisher <rv7a.n18pf@...> wrote:

Yes, it's a counter weight to balance the elevators to prevent flutter (hopefully!).

Paul

On Fri, Jul 30, 2021, 15:53 Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hey all,

I’ve always assumed that the circled item is a weight of some kind connected to the elevator control.   

While we continue to work on the avionics , and locate a spot to mount a servo up front, I realize there’s hardly any weight to these at all.  I’ve also noticed in quite a few photos posted by this group that others don’t seem to have this mysterious object.

Any ideas on what the circle item could be if not a weight?





Corbin

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Re: Elevator Weights or Something Else

Paul Fisher
 

Yes, it's a counter weight to balance the elevators to prevent flutter (hopefully!).

Paul


On Fri, Jul 30, 2021, 15:53 Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hey all,

I’ve always assumed that the circled item is a weight of some kind connected to the elevator control.   

While we continue to work on the avionics , and locate a spot to mount a servo up front, I realize there’s hardly any weight to these at all.  I’ve also noticed in quite a few photos posted by this group that others don’t seem to have this mysterious object.

Any ideas on what the circle item could be if not a weight?





Corbin

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Re: Elevator Weights or Something Else

 

That is a lead counterweight.


On Fri, Jul 30, 2021, 3:53 PM Corbin via groups.io <c_geiser=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hey all,

I’ve always assumed that the circled item is a weight of some kind connected to the elevator control.   

While we continue to work on the avionics , and locate a spot to mount a servo up front, I realize there’s hardly any weight to these at all.  I’ve also noticed in quite a few photos posted by this group that others don’t seem to have this mysterious object.

Any ideas on what the circle item could be if not a weight?





Corbin

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Elevator Weights or Something Else

Corbin
 

Hey all,

I’ve always assumed that the circled item is a weight of some kind connected to the elevator control.

While we continue to work on the avionics , and locate a spot to mount a servo up front, I realize there’s hardly any weight to these at all. I’ve also noticed in quite a few photos posted by this group that others don’t seem to have this mysterious object.

Any ideas on what the circle item could be if not a weight?





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Re: Off Topic but... EAA Experimenter Magazine

Sam Hoskins
 

They often have back issues for sale at their booth at Oshkosh. If no one can pick one up for you you might want to contact the magazine directly.


On Thu, Jul 29, 2021, 4:09 PM Mike Dwyer <q200pilot@...> wrote:
Anyone have an eaa experimenter May 1991 magazine?  I'd really like one. I will buy it from you!  I was flying a Vollmer Sportsman on the cover and my copy has faded to blue!

Fly Safe,
Mike Dwyer N3QP Q200

Q200 Website: http://goo.gl/V8IrJF


Off Topic but... EAA Experimenter Magazine

Mike Dwyer
 

Anyone have an eaa experimenter May 1991 magazine?  I'd really like one. I will buy it from you!  I was flying a Vollmer Sportsman on the cover and my copy has faded to blue!

Fly Safe,
Mike Dwyer N3QP Q200

Q200 Website: http://goo.gl/V8IrJF


Re: Q1 Fuselage comes up

Chris Walterson
 

Eugen-------------  I have a fiberglass tail spring from my Q200 I am not using. It looks like the one I had used on my single Quickie.

It is yours if you want to pay shipping.  Chris In Geraldton Ontario Canada


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Re: Q1 Fuselage comes up

David J. Gall
 

Rob,

Fuselage torsional stiffness is low until the wing and canard are installed.

Eugen,

Be sure to download the entire SuperQuickie Conversion report, not just the one picture that I sent earlier.

https://www.DavidJGall.com/Q/


David J. Gall

On Jul 27, 2021, at 12:00 PM, Rob de Bie <robdebie@xs4all.nl> wrote:

Eugen, congratulations, looking good!

One thing I always wondered about: how is the torsional stiffness of the fuselage structure? Can you judge that, by twisting it at either end with two persons?

Rob

On 24 Jul 2021 20:19, Eugen Pilarski wrote:
Hi Q-Community,
So far the glass is placed on the fuselage outside of my Q1. The foam for wing and canard is coming already from the supplier. The next steps will be to start up my DIY CNC Foam cutter to produce the parts for wing and canard.
The weight of the fuselage with all bulkheads and AFT top is around 18.6 kg or 41.6 lbs.
Best regards
Eugen
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Am 07.07.2021 um 00:56 schrieb Chris Walterson <dkeats@tbaytel.net>:


Eugen-------- One other thing I would recommend is to install a few extra layers of glass on the canard where your feet go.

I sold my Super Q with 100 hrs on it, but on my Dragonfly , after about 200 hrs the canard got soft under the heel area, and I ended up doing as I said. Take care--------- Chris

On 2021-07-06 1:13 p.m., smeshno1@hotmail.com wrote:

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Re: Q1 Fuselage comes up

Rob de Bie
 

Eugen, congratulations, looking good!

One thing I always wondered about: how is the torsional stiffness of the fuselage structure? Can you judge that, by twisting it at either end with two persons?

Rob

On 24 Jul 2021 20:19, Eugen Pilarski wrote:
Hi Q-Community,
So far the glass is placed on the fuselage outside of my Q1. The foam for wing and canard is coming already from the supplier. The next steps will be to start up my DIY CNC Foam cutter to produce the parts for wing and canard.
The weight of the fuselage with all bulkheads and AFT top is around 18.6 kg or 41.6 lbs.
Best regards
Eugen
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Am 07.07.2021 um 00:56 schrieb Chris Walterson <dkeats@tbaytel.net>:



 Eugen--------  One other thing I would recommend is to install a few extra layers of glass on the canard where your feet go.

I sold my Super Q with 100 hrs on it, but on my Dragonfly , after about 200 hrs the canard got soft under the heel area, and I ended up doing as I said.    Take care---------  Chris

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Re: Dawn Sunday OSH

Jay Scheevel
 

Hi Terry,

Been telling the cozy guys about your project and that the best is yet to come, so now you’re really on the hook!

Cheers,
Jay

On Jul 26, 2021, at 8:39 AM, Jon Swenson <swensgoldflyer@gmail.com> wrote:

Hey quickie guys I’m working at Steinair outside booth stop by and say 👋





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