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Re: Some Qs

Mike Dwyer
 

The elevator movement when roll input is used adds to the roll rate of the aircraft.  Makes it have good roll rate even at landing speeds.
Mike Dwyer Q200


On Wed, Oct 20, 2021, 1:35 PM Tim <timmrlw@...> wrote:
Managed to get the control rods the correct length today and then fit the spring pitch trim.

I notice the elevator horns move about 1/2” relative to each other when rolling, I know the plans suggest this will happen but is that about the right amount? It just seems a bit wired, but seems to come with the design.

Thanks, Tim


Re: Some Qs

Jay Scheevel
 

Hi Tim,

 

Mine move like yours also. Not sure the amount, since I did not measure it, but it is primarily to be only significant in full roll deflection. You will notice the deflection of the elevators is sympathetic to the ailerons (in the same sense), so I really would not worry about it. If you are in the very rare circumstance that calls for full bank, you are probably looking for all the help you can get, so  a little deflection on the elevators is probably a good thing. I think if you poll the Tri-Q drivers in the group, you will find that they all have similar observations.

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

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Subject: Re: [Q-List] Some Qs

 

Managed to get the control rods the correct length today and then fit the spring pitch trim.

I notice the elevator horns move about 1/2” relative to each other when rolling, I know the plans suggest this will happen but is that about the right amount? It just seems a bit wired, but seems to come with the design.

Thanks, Tim


Re: Front Tyre

Jay Scheevel
 

I am using the “lamb” tire (11” on 5 inch rim), same as the original mains. I had intended to have the same tires all around on mine, so I could carry one spare. I ended up changing my mains to 5.00 X 5 AirHawk tires, but kept the lamb up front. You will not be able to use this unless you have the upgraded gear leg ala Scott Swing or Richard Kaczmarek.

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

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Subject: [Q-List] Front Tyre

 

Interested in what front tyre people are using on the Tri gear.
Mine currently has a 10x 3.50 x 4 McReary Airtrac (https://www.lasaero.com/products/article/W006S408F) which is quite square in profile and I was thinking to swap it for a more rounded (like main tyres). Aircraft hasn’t flown yet… Tyre is just old so needs replacement.

Might replace with Aero classic 10/350-4 (https://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/lgpages/aero_rib_10_350_460.php) Or keep the McReary…

Any experience and advice appreciated!

Thanks, Tim


Re: Finally

Jim Patillo
 

Good day Chris,

Congratulations on your first flight in the Quickie. For what it's worth, you have just become part of a small select group. My only comment is, take it easy and go slow on your first flights, testing and learning your airplane. I went thru a complete flight test procedure, SLOWLY progressing on each flight. Now is not the time to go fast and make aggressive maneuvers. That all comes in time. Further when you get around 100 hours, sharpen your wits, because that's when you start getting comfortable and shit hits the fan. Just be prepared. I wish you the best in your upcoming flights. We are all here to help you. You are going to have a lot of fun with the Quickie!         

Best regards,
Jim Patillo
N46JP Q200
1804 hours on my Q.


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Subject: Re: [Q-List] Finally
 
 Brent-----------  No high performance rating. I was instructed to
measure wing tip to tip and do the math using the fuselage as a lifting
surface so it worked out okay. My wing loading just slide in under the
numbers.----------  Chris


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Re: Some Qs

Tim
 

Managed to get the control rods the correct length today and then fit the spring pitch trim.

I notice the elevator horns move about 1/2” relative to each other when rolling, I know the plans suggest this will happen but is that about the right amount? It just seems a bit wired, but seems to come with the design.

Thanks, Tim


Front Tyre

Tim
 

Interested in what front tyre people are using on the Tri gear.
Mine currently has a 10x 3.50 x 4 McReary Airtrac (https://www.lasaero.com/products/article/W006S408F) which is quite square in profile and I was thinking to swap it for a more rounded (like main tyres). Aircraft hasn’t flown yet… Tyre is just old so needs replacement.

Might replace with Aero classic 10/350-4 (https://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/lgpages/aero_rib_10_350_460.php) Or keep the McReary…

Any experience and advice appreciated!

Thanks, Tim


Re: Finally

Frankenbird Vern
 

 Well. One day when Lara and I fly there in Das Frankenbird I'll have to remind her Keinen Alcohol over Kansas!  

You see.. I was born in Wichita..lived most of my younger days there (off and on..we being aviation vagabonds). 

 Back in the day you couldn't drink hard likkor by the drink unlessn you waz a member of a private nightclub (that is my version of Planes,Trains, and Automobiles where Dell and Neil are told you can't get outta Wichita on a train unless your a hog and gotta go to Stubsville)  

 You could however buy a 5th at the millions of liquor stores and blow out your liver without anything but I.D. (or a cute 14 year old girl with you) but NO DRINKIN just a mixed drink!! NOPE..NADA! 

You see its called "logic" in Kansas? 

 So then the idiots (and they ARE Idiots in the first degree) in Topeka decided that the stupid "liquor by the drink" law applied to airliners flying OVER the State!  The airlines of course had no choice but 
to stop serving booze while flying over Kansas (airliners are not considered private clubs) or get fined for EACH serving to EACH person..

 I'm not joking..they would tell everyone at 35,000' "gotta stop handing out the Fire Water cause we are flyin over KANZASS". Business people from all over the world would have to be members
of a private nightclub just to get a simple mixed drink at dinner while making many a multi million dollar deal!

 So short of swinging over to Missouri (a much more intelligent State I will admit) to get to Knee Braska or Colorado (a little dicey being they are livin high all the time and have been since John Denver was crooning), I have to fly over my most favorite State of all (NOT).

  I'm just gonna have to tell my one passenger "no drinkin booze..were now flying over the great State of Kanzass!"

 And folks ask me why I chose to "retire" in Oklahoma after living in many places all over Earth. They do stupid from time to time, but I don't remember Oklahoma City sending up the sky police to pull over the airliners for violating booze laws.  🙂    

 Trust me guys..when I am PIC starting at Pre-flight I change character. I get really serious..but on the ground I'm a bit like another famous Oklahoma resident. Will Rogers. 

 Kewl!  I like the idea of a STOL Tri-Q.  I bet we can fly Mountain Wave too in the right places.  That would be an interesting video to shoot.  Actually I am not a FeetBall fan
but my Mom used to torture me on Thanksgiving and up to Stupor Bowl. TV was always on a game of some kind. I guess that is why I was in the garage more than not.   

 Vern
     


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Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2021 8:39 PM
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Subject: Re: [Q-List] Finally
 
Absolutely Vern they did steal their colors!
Beatrice works well!  They have a big sports bar and grill where Paul Fisher can use his tv changer when the Huskers are playing and everyone is locked on the game!  You might want to take some videos as it might get rowdy!  They also have two cross runways that came in handy when Honey Lamb and I landed in 45 knot winds!  The wind was straight down one of the runways and we must have only used 150’ of runway!  It was awesome!
Bruce


On Oct 19, 2021, at 7:26 PM, smeshno1@... wrote:


Kneebraskee!! Land o the corn huskers. Somehow ain't right they stole OU colors.  Understand Bruce. 

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Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2021 7:00 PM
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Subject: Re: [Q-List] Finally
 
The clan is looking at a different location for FOD next year Vern.  Maybe back to Beatrice, Neb.  Will know more as the year goes by. 
Bruce


On Oct 19, 2021, at 3:05 PM, smeshno1@... wrote:


Enid (if we don't get Covidized again) 2022 🙂

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Subject: Re: [Q-List] Finally
 
 Thanks for the encouragment guys.

  Went to the airport this morning and set the prop pitch from 14.5 to
12.5.  Filled it with about 7 in the main plus the header. Reflexed the
aileron up a bit for takeoff and hit the throttle. Got in the air
quickly and stayed in ground affect and then climbed out at 110 indicated.

  Had about 5 lbs boost and climbed at 1500 fpm at around 1,000 lbs. My
speed ended up being 160 indicated at 3150 rpm. I still need a bit
finer, but I will stay with this for now.  Once I fly some more I will
set the prop to give me 3500 rpm with the waste gate off and 4,000 plus
with boost. I think my prop is a 56 inch three blade warp drive ground
adjustable.

  If it is nice again tomorrow I will install my rad cowl and see if I
still get the right amount of cooling and hopefully a bit more speed.

  I find the reflexor very sensitive. Tomorrow I am also going to bring
my digital smart level and lay it on the passenger consol to see if I am
close to the water line with my rigging.

Livin the dream-------------  Chris


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Re: Finally

Bill Higdon
 

Chris,

Congratulations on the flights so far and I hope the weather in your parts cooperates with you. I also like the Otter on floats in the background.

Bill


Azusa Wheel Assembly / Refurb Video

Michael Dunning
 

Just found this great video covering prep and installation for those of us rocking the OEM Azusa wheel:

How To Prep Azusa Tri-Star Aluminum Wheels for Sonex Aircraft and MORE

The video demonstrates the PDF instructions that Sonex put out, available here:

Wheel and Brake Assembly and Installation
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#2827 (still thinking about planning on visualizing how to finish building)


Re: Looking to buy a Dragonfly #Q-Tour

Mike Lutman <mikeinvestor2003@...>
 

Good morning Fredd,

  My name is Mike and I have a Dragonfly for sale here in Southwest Florida.  Please email me at mikeinvestor2003@... if you are interested in finding out more about it.

Thank you,

  Mike

On 10/19/2021 1:16 PM, Fredd Baber wrote:
Good afternoon!

First time posting.  I’m looking to buy a Dragonfly and wanted to know what the pros and cons are.  Any “gotchas” I need to be looking for?  The workmanship is really top notch.  I just don’t know much about the plane other than they look really cool.  Thanks in advance!!


Re: Finally

Bruce Crain
 

Absolutely Vern they did steal their colors!
Beatrice works well!  They have a big sports bar and grill where Paul Fisher can use his tv changer when the Huskers are playing and everyone is locked on the game!  You might want to take some videos as it might get rowdy!  They also have two cross runways that came in handy when Honey Lamb and I landed in 45 knot winds!  The wind was straight down one of the runways and we must have only used 150’ of runway!  It was awesome!
Bruce


On Oct 19, 2021, at 7:26 PM, smeshno1@... wrote:


Kneebraskee!! Land o the corn huskers. Somehow ain't right they stole OU colors.  Understand Bruce. 

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Subject: Re: [Q-List] Finally
 
The clan is looking at a different location for FOD next year Vern.  Maybe back to Beatrice, Neb.  Will know more as the year goes by. 
Bruce


On Oct 19, 2021, at 3:05 PM, smeshno1@... wrote:


Enid (if we don't get Covidized again) 2022 🙂

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Subject: Re: [Q-List] Finally
 
 Thanks for the encouragment guys.

  Went to the airport this morning and set the prop pitch from 14.5 to
12.5.  Filled it with about 7 in the main plus the header. Reflexed the
aileron up a bit for takeoff and hit the throttle. Got in the air
quickly and stayed in ground affect and then climbed out at 110 indicated.

  Had about 5 lbs boost and climbed at 1500 fpm at around 1,000 lbs. My
speed ended up being 160 indicated at 3150 rpm. I still need a bit
finer, but I will stay with this for now.  Once I fly some more I will
set the prop to give me 3500 rpm with the waste gate off and 4,000 plus
with boost. I think my prop is a 56 inch three blade warp drive ground
adjustable.

  If it is nice again tomorrow I will install my rad cowl and see if I
still get the right amount of cooling and hopefully a bit more speed.

  I find the reflexor very sensitive. Tomorrow I am also going to bring
my digital smart level and lay it on the passenger consol to see if I am
close to the water line with my rigging.

Livin the dream-------------  Chris


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Re: Finally

Frankenbird Vern
 

Kneebraskee!! Land o the corn huskers. Somehow ain't right they stole OU colors.  Understand Bruce. 


From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...>
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Subject: Re: [Q-List] Finally
 
The clan is looking at a different location for FOD next year Vern.  Maybe back to Beatrice, Neb.  Will know more as the year goes by. 
Bruce


On Oct 19, 2021, at 3:05 PM, smeshno1@... wrote:


Enid (if we don't get Covidized again) 2022 🙂

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Chris Walterson <dkeats@...>
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2021 2:08 PM
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Subject: Re: [Q-List] Finally
 
 Thanks for the encouragment guys.

  Went to the airport this morning and set the prop pitch from 14.5 to
12.5.  Filled it with about 7 in the main plus the header. Reflexed the
aileron up a bit for takeoff and hit the throttle. Got in the air
quickly and stayed in ground affect and then climbed out at 110 indicated.

  Had about 5 lbs boost and climbed at 1500 fpm at around 1,000 lbs. My
speed ended up being 160 indicated at 3150 rpm. I still need a bit
finer, but I will stay with this for now.  Once I fly some more I will
set the prop to give me 3500 rpm with the waste gate off and 4,000 plus
with boost. I think my prop is a 56 inch three blade warp drive ground
adjustable.

  If it is nice again tomorrow I will install my rad cowl and see if I
still get the right amount of cooling and hopefully a bit more speed.

  I find the reflexor very sensitive. Tomorrow I am also going to bring
my digital smart level and lay it on the passenger consol to see if I am
close to the water line with my rigging.

Livin the dream-------------  Chris


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Re: Finally

Bruce Crain
 

The clan is looking at a different location for FOD next year Vern.  Maybe back to Beatrice, Neb.  Will know more as the year goes by. 
Bruce


On Oct 19, 2021, at 3:05 PM, smeshno1@... wrote:


Enid (if we don't get Covidized again) 2022 🙂

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Chris Walterson <dkeats@...>
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2021 2:08 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Finally
 
 Thanks for the encouragment guys.

  Went to the airport this morning and set the prop pitch from 14.5 to
12.5.  Filled it with about 7 in the main plus the header. Reflexed the
aileron up a bit for takeoff and hit the throttle. Got in the air
quickly and stayed in ground affect and then climbed out at 110 indicated.

  Had about 5 lbs boost and climbed at 1500 fpm at around 1,000 lbs. My
speed ended up being 160 indicated at 3150 rpm. I still need a bit
finer, but I will stay with this for now.  Once I fly some more I will
set the prop to give me 3500 rpm with the waste gate off and 4,000 plus
with boost. I think my prop is a 56 inch three blade warp drive ground
adjustable.

  If it is nice again tomorrow I will install my rad cowl and see if I
still get the right amount of cooling and hopefully a bit more speed.

  I find the reflexor very sensitive. Tomorrow I am also going to bring
my digital smart level and lay it on the passenger consol to see if I am
close to the water line with my rigging.

Livin the dream-------------  Chris


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Re: flight

Chris Walterson
 

Sorry-----  The photos  were to go somewhere else.--------- Chris



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flight

Chris Walterson
 

Kris-------------  Yahoo-------------  Chris



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Re: Finally

Chris Walterson
 

Jay--------------  I don't know of a max rpm for the Warp drive. I do know some 70 inchers will turn 2700 so I figure my 56 can turn 4,000.

 I have a  53 inch on my Dragonfly I cruise at 3500 and see 4,000 regularly. I think it's been that way for 25 years.

 One other thing, the NACA vent doesn't get any exhaust although the fuselage sure got dirty burning all the oil and crud I had in the cylinders.  Take care----------  Chris


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Re: Finally

Chris Walterson
 

Brent-----------  No high performance rating. I was instructed to measure wing tip to tip and do the math using the fuselage as a lifting surface so it worked out okay. My wing loading just slide in under the numbers.----------  Chris


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Re: Finally

Frankenbird Vern
 

Enid (if we don't get Covidized again) 2022 🙂


From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Chris Walterson <dkeats@...>
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2021 2:08 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Finally
 
 Thanks for the encouragment guys.

  Went to the airport this morning and set the prop pitch from 14.5 to
12.5.  Filled it with about 7 in the main plus the header. Reflexed the
aileron up a bit for takeoff and hit the throttle. Got in the air
quickly and stayed in ground affect and then climbed out at 110 indicated.

  Had about 5 lbs boost and climbed at 1500 fpm at around 1,000 lbs. My
speed ended up being 160 indicated at 3150 rpm. I still need a bit
finer, but I will stay with this for now.  Once I fly some more I will
set the prop to give me 3500 rpm with the waste gate off and 4,000 plus
with boost. I think my prop is a 56 inch three blade warp drive ground
adjustable.

  If it is nice again tomorrow I will install my rad cowl and see if I
still get the right amount of cooling and hopefully a bit more speed.

  I find the reflexor very sensitive. Tomorrow I am also going to bring
my digital smart level and lay it on the passenger consol to see if I am
close to the water line with my rigging.

Livin the dream-------------  Chris


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Re: Finally

Jay Scheevel
 

Hi Chris,

Thanks for the reports. Do they have a max RPM recommended for that prop?

Cheers,
Jay

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Subject: Re: [Q-List] Finally

Thanks for the encouragment guys.

Went to the airport this morning and set the prop pitch from 14.5 to 12.5. Filled it with about 7 in the main plus the header. Reflexed the aileron up a bit for takeoff and hit the throttle. Got in the air quickly and stayed in ground affect and then climbed out at 110 indicated.

Had about 5 lbs boost and climbed at 1500 fpm at around 1,000 lbs. My speed ended up being 160 indicated at 3150 rpm. I still need a bit finer, but I will stay with this for now. Once I fly some more I will set the prop to give me 3500 rpm with the waste gate off and 4,000 plus with boost. I think my prop is a 56 inch three blade warp drive ground adjustable.

If it is nice again tomorrow I will install my rad cowl and see if I still get the right amount of cooling and hopefully a bit more speed.

I find the reflexor very sensitive. Tomorrow I am also going to bring my digital smart level and lay it on the passenger consol to see if I am close to the water line with my rigging.

Livin the dream------------- Chris


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Re: Finally

Chris Walterson
 

Thanks for the encouragment guys.

 Went to the airport this morning and set the prop pitch from 14.5 to 12.5.  Filled it with about 7 in the main plus the header. Reflexed the aileron up a bit for takeoff and hit the throttle. Got in the air quickly and stayed in ground affect and then climbed out at 110 indicated.

 Had about 5 lbs boost and climbed at 1500 fpm at around 1,000 lbs. My speed ended up being 160 indicated at 3150 rpm. I still need a bit finer, but I will stay with this for now.  Once I fly some more I will set the prop to give me 3500 rpm with the waste gate off and 4,000 plus with boost. I think my prop is a 56 inch three blade warp drive ground adjustable.

 If it is nice again tomorrow I will install my rad cowl and see if I still get the right amount of cooling and hopefully a bit more speed.

 I find the reflexor very sensitive. Tomorrow I am also going to bring my digital smart level and lay it on the passenger consol to see if I am close to the water line with my rigging.

Livin the dream-------------  Chris


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