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Re: Flight Report KMDH - KTOP & return

Richard Thomson
 

    Its the base map that the rest of the layers get laid over.

    Do you have a Nav screen on your Dynon ? If so does it get all the input from the Garmin ?

On 08/11/2021 12:28, Sam Hoskins wrote:

What is a raster map?  I use my old Garmn GPS map connected to the D180 and I also use Avare on a cheap tablet powered by a Stratux.
Here's a picture of my setup.
PXL_20211105_195726705.jpg

On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 5:35 AM Richard Thomson <richard@...> wrote:

Thanks Sam, Interesting report. Makes me glad I fitted a second pump when I read it. Got any findings yet ?

Do you use a raster map on your Dynon, what Nav data do you use ? Pocket FMS ?

Rich T.

On 07/11/2021 20:38, Sam Hoskins wrote:
I made a little trip to Topeka this weekend to see the grands. Nice time was had by all. Non-eventful weather and the winds were okay in both directions, but sometimes I do wish I had cabin heat.  As long as the sun is shining in lower temps, I'm good. My old Dynon is showing everything in the green.

My route of flight takes me just over the lower end of Whiteman AFB, which is the Air Force's main B-2 bomber base.  Sometimes I'll see a billion dollar bomber on the ramp, like today.  The top of the control zone is 3,500 feet and I was heading east at 5,500. It always seems a bit strange to fly over Whiteman, feels like maybe I'm being watched?

As you may know I have an electric fuel injection system and have two Walbro pumps to deliver fuel at 40 psi. When I fly West, I'm on pump #1 and East I use pump #2. Both pumps are on for takeoff and landing phases. About an hour from home I noticed my mixture getting very lean.  As I was fooling with the mixture I suddenly got a LOW FUEL PRESSURE warning. I flipped on pump #1 and things went back to normal. Not believing what I was seeing I tried turning #1 off, and the engine just about died.  

Okay, I get the hint. Turn #1 back on and #2 off, just in case it is spewing parts. Rest of the flight was uneventful and I didn't touch a thing until I got on the ground. Looks like I'll be ordering a new pump and a new 10 micron fuel filter.

All in all a fun day.

Sam








Re: Q-Tour with Peter Meszaros Q-2 Serial # 2001. Saturday No v 13, 0900 Central Standard Time

Bruce Crain
 

Hi Sammy!
I met Peter Meszaros at Oshkosh in the Kelly's Bar and Grill one night.  We were sitting across from one one another and did not know either of us were Quickie builder/pilots!  We struck up a conversation and realized the fact!  Had a great talk with Peter and was in awe at how fast his VW powered Q2 cruises and races!  Glad you caught up with Peter!  I know his Zoom will be most informative!
Bruce




Re: Flight Report KMDH - KTOP & return

Mike Dwyer
 

Great report Sam.  How many people get to see a B1 from above!  And thanks for arranging the Zoom meetings!
Fly Safe,
Mike Dwyer. Q200

On Sun, Nov 7, 2021, 3:38 PM Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@...> wrote:
I made a little trip to Topeka this weekend to see the grands. Nice time was had by all. Non-eventful weather and the winds were okay in both directions, but sometimes I do wish I had cabin heat.  As long as the sun is shining in lower temps, I'm good. My old Dynon is showing everything in the green.

My route of flight takes me just over the lower end of Whiteman AFB, which is the Air Force's main B-2 bomber base.  Sometimes I'll see a billion dollar bomber on the ramp, like today.  The top of the control zone is 3,500 feet and I was heading east at 5,500. It always seems a bit strange to fly over Whiteman, feels like maybe I'm being watched?

As you may know I have an electric fuel injection system and have two Walbro pumps to deliver fuel at 40 psi. When I fly West, I'm on pump #1 and East I use pump #2. Both pumps are on for takeoff and landing phases. About an hour from home I noticed my mixture getting very lean.  As I was fooling with the mixture I suddenly got a LOW FUEL PRESSURE warning. I flipped on pump #1 and things went back to normal. Not believing what I was seeing I tried turning #1 off, and the engine just about died.  

Okay, I get the hint. Turn #1 back on and #2 off, just in case it is spewing parts. Rest of the flight was uneventful and I didn't touch a thing until I got on the ground. Looks like I'll be ordering a new pump and a new 10 micron fuel filter.

All in all a fun day.

Sam








Re: Flight Report KMDH - KTOP & return

Sam Hoskins
 

What is a raster map?  I use my old Garmn GPS map connected to the D180 and I also use Avare on a cheap tablet powered by a Stratux.
Here's a picture of my setup.
PXL_20211105_195726705.jpg


On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 5:35 AM Richard Thomson <richard@...> wrote:

Thanks Sam, Interesting report. Makes me glad I fitted a second pump when I read it. Got any findings yet ?

Do you use a raster map on your Dynon, what Nav data do you use ? Pocket FMS ?

Rich T.

On 07/11/2021 20:38, Sam Hoskins wrote:
I made a little trip to Topeka this weekend to see the grands. Nice time was had by all. Non-eventful weather and the winds were okay in both directions, but sometimes I do wish I had cabin heat.  As long as the sun is shining in lower temps, I'm good. My old Dynon is showing everything in the green.

My route of flight takes me just over the lower end of Whiteman AFB, which is the Air Force's main B-2 bomber base.  Sometimes I'll see a billion dollar bomber on the ramp, like today.  The top of the control zone is 3,500 feet and I was heading east at 5,500. It always seems a bit strange to fly over Whiteman, feels like maybe I'm being watched?

As you may know I have an electric fuel injection system and have two Walbro pumps to deliver fuel at 40 psi. When I fly West, I'm on pump #1 and East I use pump #2. Both pumps are on for takeoff and landing phases. About an hour from home I noticed my mixture getting very lean.  As I was fooling with the mixture I suddenly got a LOW FUEL PRESSURE warning. I flipped on pump #1 and things went back to normal. Not believing what I was seeing I tried turning #1 off, and the engine just about died.  

Okay, I get the hint. Turn #1 back on and #2 off, just in case it is spewing parts. Rest of the flight was uneventful and I didn't touch a thing until I got on the ground. Looks like I'll be ordering a new pump and a new 10 micron fuel filter.

All in all a fun day.

Sam








Re: Flight Report KMDH - KTOP & return

Richard Thomson
 

Thanks Sam, Interesting report. Makes me glad I fitted a second pump when I read it. Got any findings yet ?

Do you use a raster map on your Dynon, what Nav data do you use ? Pocket FMS ?

Rich T.

On 07/11/2021 20:38, Sam Hoskins wrote:

I made a little trip to Topeka this weekend to see the grands. Nice time was had by all. Non-eventful weather and the winds were okay in both directions, but sometimes I do wish I had cabin heat.  As long as the sun is shining in lower temps, I'm good. My old Dynon is showing everything in the green.

My route of flight takes me just over the lower end of Whiteman AFB, which is the Air Force's main B-2 bomber base.  Sometimes I'll see a billion dollar bomber on the ramp, like today.  The top of the control zone is 3,500 feet and I was heading east at 5,500. It always seems a bit strange to fly over Whiteman, feels like maybe I'm being watched?

As you may know I have an electric fuel injection system and have two Walbro pumps to deliver fuel at 40 psi. When I fly West, I'm on pump #1 and East I use pump #2. Both pumps are on for takeoff and landing phases. About an hour from home I noticed my mixture getting very lean.  As I was fooling with the mixture I suddenly got a LOW FUEL PRESSURE warning. I flipped on pump #1 and things went back to normal. Not believing what I was seeing I tried turning #1 off, and the engine just about died.  

Okay, I get the hint. Turn #1 back on and #2 off, just in case it is spewing parts. Rest of the flight was uneventful and I didn't touch a thing until I got on the ground. Looks like I'll be ordering a new pump and a new 10 micron fuel filter.

All in all a fun day.

Sam








Re: Q2 Revmaster P Leads

Anthony P
 

Mine started out 5.5" deep and was modified to 6.5" deep.  
Not pretty, but got the job done I guess.




Re: Flight Report KMDH - KTOP & return

Lynn French
 

Sam, 
Thanks for the article. I thought the punch line to your pressure problem was going to the same as mine. I had the same exact problem but the culprit ended up being something different. My gas cap for the main tank somehow vibrated loose allowing  low pressure on the fuel tank. This was causing me to have lean engine and low fuel pressure alarms. 
Regards. 

Short & simple from my mobile 

On Nov 7, 2021, at 2:38 PM, Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@...> wrote:

I made a little trip to Topeka this weekend to see the grands. Nice time was had by all. Non-eventful weather and the winds were okay in both directions, but sometimes I do wish I had cabin heat.  As long as the sun is shining in lower temps, I'm good. My old Dynon is showing everything in the green.

My route of flight takes me just over the lower end of Whiteman AFB, which is the Air Force's main B-2 bomber base.  Sometimes I'll see a billion dollar bomber on the ramp, like today.  The top of the control zone is 3,500 feet and I was heading east at 5,500. It always seems a bit strange to fly over Whiteman, feels like maybe I'm being watched?

As you may know I have an electric fuel injection system and have two Walbro pumps to deliver fuel at 40 psi. When I fly West, I'm on pump #1 and East I use pump #2. Both pumps are on for takeoff and landing phases. About an hour from home I noticed my mixture getting very lean.  As I was fooling with the mixture I suddenly got a LOW FUEL PRESSURE warning. I flipped on pump #1 and things went back to normal. Not believing what I was seeing I tried turning #1 off, and the engine just about died.  

Okay, I get the hint. Turn #1 back on and #2 off, just in case it is spewing parts. Rest of the flight was uneventful and I didn't touch a thing until I got on the ground. Looks like I'll be ordering a new pump and a new 10 micron fuel filter.

All in all a fun day.

Sam








Q-Tour with Peter Meszaros Q-2 Serial # 2001. Saturday Nov 13, 0900 Central Standard Time

Sam Hoskins
 

From Hamilton Ontario, join us for this very interesting Tour with Peter.  As far as he can tell, his was the first flying kit Q-2, but I'll let him tell the story. His first flight was in June of 1982! Peter is still flying it and has competed in the EAA's Air Venture Cup Race.

Click on the link below.  Don't sign in until 9:00. CST



Sam Hoskins is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.
 
Topic: Q-Tour Zoom with Peter Meszaros
Time: Nov 13, 2021 09:00 AM Central Time (US and Canada)
 
Join Zoom Meeting
https://us04web.zoom.us/j/77607724164?pwd=emNpNk54MVNNY0JwN0plWlYvek52QT09
 
Meeting ID: 776 0772 4164
Passcode: t8p8N3
 


Flight Report KMDH - KTOP & return

Sam Hoskins
 

I made a little trip to Topeka this weekend to see the grands. Nice time was had by all. Non-eventful weather and the winds were okay in both directions, but sometimes I do wish I had cabin heat.  As long as the sun is shining in lower temps, I'm good. My old Dynon is showing everything in the green.

My route of flight takes me just over the lower end of Whiteman AFB, which is the Air Force's main B-2 bomber base.  Sometimes I'll see a billion dollar bomber on the ramp, like today.  The top of the control zone is 3,500 feet and I was heading east at 5,500. It always seems a bit strange to fly over Whiteman, feels like maybe I'm being watched?

As you may know I have an electric fuel injection system and have two Walbro pumps to deliver fuel at 40 psi. When I fly West, I'm on pump #1 and East I use pump #2. Both pumps are on for takeoff and landing phases. About an hour from home I noticed my mixture getting very lean.  As I was fooling with the mixture I suddenly got a LOW FUEL PRESSURE warning. I flipped on pump #1 and things went back to normal. Not believing what I was seeing I tried turning #1 off, and the engine just about died.  

Okay, I get the hint. Turn #1 back on and #2 off, just in case it is spewing parts. Rest of the flight was uneventful and I didn't touch a thing until I got on the ground. Looks like I'll be ordering a new pump and a new 10 micron fuel filter.

All in all a fun day.

Sam








Re: Quickie Q1 - Elevator Foam cut

David J. Gall
 

Eugen,

1) Keep the level lines parallel.

2) Keep the template trailing edges flush with a line parallel to the trimmed edge of the foam block.
3) Keep the level lines at the same height above the table.


The first of these requirements is the most important; it establishes the washout of the elevator to match the washout of the canard, with the caveat that the “real” reference for these surfaces is the bottom surface – see below. The second requirement is important to keep the sweep of the elevator the same as the sweep of the canard; sweep manifests as the bevel angle of the ends of the elevator so can be corrected by sanding/filling if done incorrectly. The third requirement also keeps the ends of the elevator aligned with the opening in the canard into which the elevator fits, and can also be corrected by sanding/filling if needed.

Having said all that, read page 6-1 and 6-2 and realize that the whole thing doesn’t really matter all that much: you’ll be trimming the spanwise lengths of the cores on assembly to the canard (see pages 10-9 and 9-11) and you’ll be jigging against a flat table for layups, using the bottom surface of the elevator as your final, flat reference surface to lock in zero washout or twist (same as for the ailerons). Yes, it does appear that the designers intended for the elevator to continue the washout of the canard and then abandoned that requirement in the description of actual elevator construction – not the first time things have been a little bit goofy, eh?

The important surfaces to establish during hotwiring of the cores are the outboard end of the inboard elevator core (BL49), and the inboard end of the outboard elevator core (BL49). The only place that really matters is where these two will abut at BL49. All the other measurements described (or not described) during the cutting of these cores really don’t matter much to the shape of the final elevator. When you glass the elevators you’ll establish the absence of twist and lock it in when you glass the top surface by placing the already-glassed bottom surface flat on the (flat!) table. When you install the elevators to the canard you’ll custom carve the ends and the opening in the canard to match and allow freedom of elevator movement; you may want to make those end-of-elevator cuts perpendicular to the axis of rotation about the elevator hinge line so that the elevators don’t bind when deflected, but the hotwiring instructions give a slightly canted end to the elevators that is parallel to the longitudinal axis of the airplane; I personally don’t think that matters since the airflow near the ends of the elevator is deflected anyway by proximity to either fuselage or wheel pant. Use your artistic license….

 

Keep going, you’re going to have a great airplane!

 

 

David J. Gall

 

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Eugen Pilarski
Sent: Sunday, November 7, 2021 4:39 AM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: [Q-List] Quickie Q1 - Elevator Foam cut

 

Hello Q-Groupe,

so far the Canard is cut out from blue foam. The next steps are to cut the elevator BL10, BL49 and BL88 form the blue foam.

After study the foam cut section about the elevator, is not clear for me, which is the correct create position of the elevator templates. In my opinion, the templates are wildly laid out in the foam, at least that's my impression. Please find in the attachment Page 5-3 of the Q1 construction plans.

Please find in the attachment the Elevator BL10 and BL49 template, faced up together. So what is the correct fixing position?

Is that the center of the bore together with level line? or Is that the tail end together with level line? or ?

Maybe any one to the expert are able to make a short sketch and upload it to the file section ? 

Thank you for your support!

Best regards

Eugen 


Re: Quickie Q1 - Elevator Foam cut

Sam Hoskins
 

Forget what I just wrote. I forgot that you were working on a Q1.

Sheepishly,

Sam

On Sun, Nov 7, 2021, 1:56 PM Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@...> wrote:
Edward. Have you seen my extensive version of the q200 canard plans?

One of the worst things quickie aircraft did was writing those plans and kept on referring back to the GU plan. It went back and forth so many times and it just pissed me off so I rewrote them so somebody could make sense of it. It's available on the quick head site and I think it's in the file section of the Q-list as well.

Take a look at what I wrote and see if that helps.

Sam

On Sun, Nov 7, 2021, 6:39 AM Eugen Pilarski <interbus@...> wrote:
Hello Q-Groupe,

so far the Canard is cut out from blue foam. The next steps are to cut the elevator BL10, BL49 and BL88 form the blue foam.

After study the foam cut section about the elevator, is not clear for me, which is the correct create position of the elevator templates. In my opinion, the templates are wildly laid out in the foam, at least that's my impression. Please find in the attachment Page 5-3 of the Q1 construction plans.

Please find in the attachment the Elevator BL10 and BL49 template, faced up together. So what is the correct fixing position?

Is that the center of the bore together with level line? or Is that the tail end together with level line? or ?

Maybe any one to the expert are able to make a short sketch and upload it to the file section ? 

Thank you for your support!

Best regards

Eugen 


Re: Quickie Q1 - Elevator Foam cut

Sam Hoskins
 

Edward. Have you seen my extensive version of the q200 canard plans?

One of the worst things quickie aircraft did was writing those plans and kept on referring back to the GU plan. It went back and forth so many times and it just pissed me off so I rewrote them so somebody could make sense of it. It's available on the quick head site and I think it's in the file section of the Q-list as well.

Take a look at what I wrote and see if that helps.

Sam

On Sun, Nov 7, 2021, 6:39 AM Eugen Pilarski <interbus@...> wrote:
Hello Q-Groupe,

so far the Canard is cut out from blue foam. The next steps are to cut the elevator BL10, BL49 and BL88 form the blue foam.

After study the foam cut section about the elevator, is not clear for me, which is the correct create position of the elevator templates. In my opinion, the templates are wildly laid out in the foam, at least that's my impression. Please find in the attachment Page 5-3 of the Q1 construction plans.

Please find in the attachment the Elevator BL10 and BL49 template, faced up together. So what is the correct fixing position?

Is that the center of the bore together with level line? or Is that the tail end together with level line? or ?

Maybe any one to the expert are able to make a short sketch and upload it to the file section ? 

Thank you for your support!

Best regards

Eugen 


Quickie Q1 - Elevator Foam cut

Eugen Pilarski
 

Hello Q-Groupe,

so far the Canard is cut out from blue foam. The next steps are to cut the elevator BL10, BL49 and BL88 form the blue foam.

After study the foam cut section about the elevator, is not clear for me, which is the correct create position of the elevator templates. In my opinion, the templates are wildly laid out in the foam, at least that's my impression. Please find in the attachment Page 5-3 of the Q1 construction plans.

Please find in the attachment the Elevator BL10 and BL49 template, faced up together. So what is the correct fixing position?

Is that the center of the bore together with level line? or Is that the tail end together with level line? or ?

Maybe any one to the expert are able to make a short sketch and upload it to the file section ? 

Thank you for your support!

Best regards

Eugen 


Re: "Field Of Dreams" 2021 Report

Sam Hoskins
 

How about texting me?
618-967-0016

On Sat, Nov 6, 2021, 10:52 AM Terrence ONeill <troneill@...> wrote:
Sam 
That. Would be great.
We just got back in Carlyle last night, and could drive down today, or when you suggest a time?
Terrence.


On Nov 6, 2021, at 9:19 AM, Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@...> wrote:


Terrance, I'm in Murphysboro, about an hour and a half south of Carlisle. You're welcome to come down and take a look at mine.

Sam

On Fri, Nov 5, 2021, 2:22 PM Terrence ONeill <troneill@...> wrote:

Thanks. Yes, N131PS is seasoned. But my habits over 2300 hrs, half inexperimentals , including about 350 in a Dragonfly and lots of tail wheels before that warned me not to try to make new habits on top of. Old ones.
So if anyone’s has put brake pedals atop the rudder tubes, I’ d love to see how.
Also, can I trust the go art disc brakes sand wheels, or might I try some mods there?
This is a great group. I’d like to visit a Q200 dude while home next few weeks in southern Il. I live in Carlyle, by the lake.
Thanks for the suggestions .. 
Terry

On Nov 5, 2021, at 11:40 AM, Paul Fisher <rv7a.n18pf@...> wrote:


I think it's a personal preference - hand brakes versus toe brakes.  I very much like my hand brakes. In addition to the issue Bruce mentioned, I think I get much finer control of the braking action.  Perhaps I'm just better with my hands than my feet!

If you do go to toe brakes, you should also look at the pivot in the tail (part of the Jim-Bob six pack).  That will keep you from over stressing the rudder mounts when you stand on the brakes.

But I agree with Jay, you should fly it the way it is and see if you can get used to it.  Paul flew it very successfully for a long time.  No need to mess with success.


Paul Fisher
Q-200 N17PF  ~1,750 hours over 30+ years

On Fri, Nov 5, 2021, 09:20 Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...> wrote:
Talk to Paul Fisher.  He has a duel control at his left hand with differential braking.  When his tail spring broke, several years ago, he still was able to control his landing with these 2 handles.  Pretty important with a tail stagger!
It will be a lot easier to manufacture than crawling under the panel to the front of the fuselage.
Bruce
> On Nov 5, 2021, at 10:14 AM, Terrence ONeill <troneill@...> wrote:
>
> Who has brake pedals on their rudder pedals, on their Q200?
> I need to add them to my just-bought Q200 with Jabiru 3300.
> Thanks,
> Terry O’Neill
> Troneill@...
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: "Field Of Dreams" 2021 Report

Terrence ONeill <troneill@...>
 

Sam 
That. Would be great.
We just got back in Carlyle last night, and could drive down today, or when you suggest a time?
Terrence.


On Nov 6, 2021, at 9:19 AM, Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@...> wrote:


Terrance, I'm in Murphysboro, about an hour and a half south of Carlisle. You're welcome to come down and take a look at mine.

Sam

On Fri, Nov 5, 2021, 2:22 PM Terrence ONeill <troneill@...> wrote:

Thanks. Yes, N131PS is seasoned. But my habits over 2300 hrs, half inexperimentals , including about 350 in a Dragonfly and lots of tail wheels before that warned me not to try to make new habits on top of. Old ones.
So if anyone’s has put brake pedals atop the rudder tubes, I’ d love to see how.
Also, can I trust the go art disc brakes sand wheels, or might I try some mods there?
This is a great group. I’d like to visit a Q200 dude while home next few weeks in southern Il. I live in Carlyle, by the lake.
Thanks for the suggestions .. 
Terry

On Nov 5, 2021, at 11:40 AM, Paul Fisher <rv7a.n18pf@...> wrote:


I think it's a personal preference - hand brakes versus toe brakes.  I very much like my hand brakes. In addition to the issue Bruce mentioned, I think I get much finer control of the braking action.  Perhaps I'm just better with my hands than my feet!

If you do go to toe brakes, you should also look at the pivot in the tail (part of the Jim-Bob six pack).  That will keep you from over stressing the rudder mounts when you stand on the brakes.

But I agree with Jay, you should fly it the way it is and see if you can get used to it.  Paul flew it very successfully for a long time.  No need to mess with success.


Paul Fisher
Q-200 N17PF  ~1,750 hours over 30+ years

On Fri, Nov 5, 2021, 09:20 Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...> wrote:
Talk to Paul Fisher.  He has a duel control at his left hand with differential braking.  When his tail spring broke, several years ago, he still was able to control his landing with these 2 handles.  Pretty important with a tail stagger!
It will be a lot easier to manufacture than crawling under the panel to the front of the fuselage.
Bruce
> On Nov 5, 2021, at 10:14 AM, Terrence ONeill <troneill@...> wrote:
>
> Who has brake pedals on their rudder pedals, on their Q200?
> I need to add them to my just-bought Q200 with Jabiru 3300.
> Thanks,
> Terry O’Neill
> Troneill@...
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: "Field Of Dreams" 2021 Report

Sam Hoskins
 

Terrance, I'm in Murphysboro, about an hour and a half south of Carlisle. You're welcome to come down and take a look at mine.

Sam

On Fri, Nov 5, 2021, 2:22 PM Terrence ONeill <troneill@...> wrote:

Thanks. Yes, N131PS is seasoned. But my habits over 2300 hrs, half inexperimentals , including about 350 in a Dragonfly and lots of tail wheels before that warned me not to try to make new habits on top of. Old ones.
So if anyone’s has put brake pedals atop the rudder tubes, I’ d love to see how.
Also, can I trust the go art disc brakes sand wheels, or might I try some mods there?
This is a great group. I’d like to visit a Q200 dude while home next few weeks in southern Il. I live in Carlyle, by the lake.
Thanks for the suggestions .. 
Terry

On Nov 5, 2021, at 11:40 AM, Paul Fisher <rv7a.n18pf@...> wrote:


I think it's a personal preference - hand brakes versus toe brakes.  I very much like my hand brakes. In addition to the issue Bruce mentioned, I think I get much finer control of the braking action.  Perhaps I'm just better with my hands than my feet!

If you do go to toe brakes, you should also look at the pivot in the tail (part of the Jim-Bob six pack).  That will keep you from over stressing the rudder mounts when you stand on the brakes.

But I agree with Jay, you should fly it the way it is and see if you can get used to it.  Paul flew it very successfully for a long time.  No need to mess with success.


Paul Fisher
Q-200 N17PF  ~1,750 hours over 30+ years

On Fri, Nov 5, 2021, 09:20 Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...> wrote:
Talk to Paul Fisher.  He has a duel control at his left hand with differential braking.  When his tail spring broke, several years ago, he still was able to control his landing with these 2 handles.  Pretty important with a tail stagger!
It will be a lot easier to manufacture than crawling under the panel to the front of the fuselage.
Bruce
> On Nov 5, 2021, at 10:14 AM, Terrence ONeill <troneill@...> wrote:
>
> Who has brake pedals on their rudder pedals, on their Q200?
> I need to add them to my just-bought Q200 with Jabiru 3300.
> Thanks,
> Terry O’Neill
> Troneill@...
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: Q2 Revmaster P Leads

Dave Dugas
 

Kris
I'll have a look at mine and let you know what I find, now that I have the engine removed. I know it's a close fit and I haven't had any problem. I will let you know.  Dave D


On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 11:54 PM, Kris
<kristjanson.browne@...> wrote:
My 40 year old Q2 garage queen (not a hangar queen yet...) is ready to have it's spiffy recently rebuilt/upgraded Revmaster bolted onto the firewall so that I can fit all of the accessories etc. (YES, I've had this project since 1981 when I purchased the original kit from Stubbs Aero Products (Fred Stubbs) who received it via LeGare, NO, it's not done yet, YES, I plan to finish it...)

The motor's been attached before, but never with P Leads connected - I just received a marvelous pair of finely crafted round nut P leads from Bogert aviation built specifically for the Bendix D2000/3000 mags. QUESTION: there only seems to be a tad more than 3/8" clearance between the Bendix terminal posts and the rear face of the mag box in the firewall. The mag box was built according to the original plans and was installed around 20-25 years ago. The Bogert leads are relatively thin and flexible, but I fear - not THAT flexible, they'd get scrunched if I put this together as is. Richard Bogert isn't familiar with the Q birds, his comment (via email) was that that was a little too tight of a radius, not because of the shielded wire, rather, he's afraid that the solder joint at the ferrule would be compromised.

This cannot possibly be a 'new problem' that only I have seen. (!) Have any of you old school Q2/Revmaster artists 'been there' & 'done that' and fixed this issue a very long time ago? It's looking to me like the obvious answer is to do some cutting and remodelling of the rear face of the magneto box.

Kris


"Field Of Dreams" 2021 Report

Terrence ONeill <troneill@...>
 


Thanks for the great photo of brake pedals on the Q rudder tube-pedals.  I can make those after I take some measurements; my master cylinders  are different.
What a relief.  Terry


Begin forwarded message:

From: Terrence ONeill <troneill@...>
Date: November 5, 2021 at 11:42:52 PM CDT
To: main@q-list.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] "Field Of Dreams" 2021 Report
Reply-To: main@q-list.groups.io

Thanks, Jay



On Nov 5, 2021, at 6:39 PM, Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...> wrote:


Aah haaa!  Game and set!  I think I won this round or "duel" as it might be!  
Bruce

---------- Original Message ----------
From: "Paul Fisher" <rv7a.n18pf@...>
To: main@q-list.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] "Field Of Dreams" 2021 Report
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2021 11:02:39 -0700

Not if you are left handed!  Which I am.

 

On Fri, Nov 5, 2021, 11:01 Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote:

Bruce...Paul would probably have better control in a duel using his right hand. Duels can be tricky if you are using the wrong hand!  😉

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

-----Original Message-----
From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bruce Crain
Sent: Friday, November 5, 2021 10:19 AM
To: main@q-list.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] "Field Of Dreams" 2021 Report

 

Talk to Paul Fisher.  He has a duel control at his left hand with differential braking.  When his tail spring broke, several years ago, he still was able to control his landing with these 2 handles.  Pretty important with a tail stagger!

It will be a lot easier to manufacture than crawling under the panel to the front of the fuselage.

Bruce

> On Nov 5, 2021, at 10:14 AM, Terrence ONeill <troneill@...> wrote:

>

> Who has brake pedals on their rudder pedals, on their Q200?

> I need to add them to my just-bought Q200 with Jabiru 3300.

> Thanks,

> Terry O’Neill

> Troneill@...

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Re: "Field Of Dreams" 2021 Report

Terrence ONeill <troneill@...>
 

Thanks, Jay



On Nov 5, 2021, at 6:39 PM, Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...> wrote:


Aah haaa!  Game and set!  I think I won this round or "duel" as it might be!  
Bruce

---------- Original Message ----------
From: "Paul Fisher" <rv7a.n18pf@...>
To: main@q-list.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] "Field Of Dreams" 2021 Report
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2021 11:02:39 -0700

Not if you are left handed!  Which I am.

 

On Fri, Nov 5, 2021, 11:01 Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote:

Bruce...Paul would probably have better control in a duel using his right hand. Duels can be tricky if you are using the wrong hand!  😉

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

-----Original Message-----
From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bruce Crain
Sent: Friday, November 5, 2021 10:19 AM
To: main@q-list.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] "Field Of Dreams" 2021 Report

 

Talk to Paul Fisher.  He has a duel control at his left hand with differential braking.  When his tail spring broke, several years ago, he still was able to control his landing with these 2 handles.  Pretty important with a tail stagger!

It will be a lot easier to manufacture than crawling under the panel to the front of the fuselage.

Bruce

> On Nov 5, 2021, at 10:14 AM, Terrence ONeill <troneill@...> wrote:

>

> Who has brake pedals on their rudder pedals, on their Q200?

> I need to add them to my just-bought Q200 with Jabiru 3300.

> Thanks,

> Terry O’Neill

> Troneill@...

>

>

>

>

>

>

 

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Q2 Revmaster P Leads

Kris
 

My 40 year old Q2 garage queen (not a hangar queen yet...) is ready to have it's spiffy recently rebuilt/upgraded Revmaster bolted onto the firewall so that I can fit all of the accessories etc. (YES, I've had this project since 1981 when I purchased the original kit from Stubbs Aero Products (Fred Stubbs) who received it via LeGare, NO, it's not done yet, YES, I plan to finish it...)

The motor's been attached before, but never with P Leads connected - I just received a marvelous pair of finely crafted round nut P leads from Bogert aviation built specifically for the Bendix D2000/3000 mags. QUESTION: there only seems to be a tad more than 3/8" clearance between the Bendix terminal posts and the rear face of the mag box in the firewall. The mag box was built according to the original plans and was installed around 20-25 years ago. The Bogert leads are relatively thin and flexible, but I fear - not THAT flexible, they'd get scrunched if I put this together as is. Richard Bogert isn't familiar with the Q birds, his comment (via email) was that that was a little too tight of a radius, not because of the shielded wire, rather, he's afraid that the solder joint at the ferrule would be compromised.

This cannot possibly be a 'new problem' that only I have seen. (!) Have any of you old school Q2/Revmaster artists 'been there' & 'done that' and fixed this issue a very long time ago? It's looking to me like the obvious answer is to do some cutting and remodelling of the rear face of the magneto box.

Kris

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