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Re: Reminder: Q-List Zoom meeting - Ask the Pilots - Saturday 11 December - 0900 Central Time

Jerry Marstall
 

Beware of trailing edge down reflexer. It can over power the elevator and drive you into the dirt. Nearly happened to me. Reversing the reflexer saved me.  I have since put a stop so it can't go past neutral. Jerry 


On Sat, Dec 11, 2021, 3:41 PM Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote:

To Kevin’s point about them all being hand built: My wing is intentionally mounted leading edge down relative to plans. I never fly mine with the reflexor deflected trailing edge up! Mine is in trail at takeoff and deflected down for cruise and landing.  Whatever works. You need to test this during your flight test period, so I would suggest you not put hard stops in until you have tested.

 

The range of the reflexor can be extended beyond the plans limits. Mine go to a max of 10 degrees down and 6 degrees up, and I still have full aileron effectiveness with mine deflected full down.  They serve as “flaps” when I am landing, but I need to pull them to neutral if I am doing a touch and go. (I have a tri-gear)

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Boddicker
Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2021 12:53 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Reminder: Q-List Zoom meeting - Ask the Pilots - Saturday 11 December - 0900 Central Time

 

Anthony,

 From memory. I believe the limits on the reflector are 2° down and 6° up according to plans.

I have never flown my plane with any trailing edge down setting.

They are all hand built. So yours may be different.

 

Kevin



On Dec 11, 2021, at 10:30 AM, Anthony P <solarant@...> wrote:

 

Very interesting and informative as always.   Thanks everyone.

Follow-up on a comment by Chris Walterson and maybe a terminology lesson for me.
Chris was talking about the main wing not flying and needed to "add reflexor"  
When I think of adding reflexor, that would reduce lift on the main wing  and increase aircraft pitch.
It sounds like what he did was to add flaps, as in flaperons.
Is this correct?
How much "down aileron" can people get from their reflexor system?
I would have thought none because reflex means deflect control surface up?


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Re: Reminder: Q-List Zoom meeting - Ask the Pilots - Saturday 11 December - 0900 Central Time

Jay Scheevel
 

To Kevin’s point about them all being hand built: My wing is intentionally mounted leading edge down relative to plans. I never fly mine with the reflexor deflected trailing edge up! Mine is in trail at takeoff and deflected down for cruise and landing.  Whatever works. You need to test this during your flight test period, so I would suggest you not put hard stops in until you have tested.

 

The range of the reflexor can be extended beyond the plans limits. Mine go to a max of 10 degrees down and 6 degrees up, and I still have full aileron effectiveness with mine deflected full down.  They serve as “flaps” when I am landing, but I need to pull them to neutral if I am doing a touch and go. (I have a tri-gear)

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Boddicker
Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2021 12:53 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Reminder: Q-List Zoom meeting - Ask the Pilots - Saturday 11 December - 0900 Central Time

 

Anthony,

 From memory. I believe the limits on the reflector are 2° down and 6° up according to plans.

I have never flown my plane with any trailing edge down setting.

They are all hand built. So yours may be different.

 

Kevin



On Dec 11, 2021, at 10:30 AM, Anthony P <solarant@...> wrote:

 

Very interesting and informative as always.   Thanks everyone.

Follow-up on a comment by Chris Walterson and maybe a terminology lesson for me.
Chris was talking about the main wing not flying and needed to "add reflexor"  
When I think of adding reflexor, that would reduce lift on the main wing  and increase aircraft pitch.
It sounds like what he did was to add flaps, as in flaperons.
Is this correct?
How much "down aileron" can people get from their reflexor system?
I would have thought none because reflex means deflect control surface up?


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Q2 N86KL

 


Re: Reminder: Q-List Zoom meeting - Ask the Pilots - Saturday 11 December - 0900 Central Time

Kevin Boddicker
 

Anthony,
 From memory. I believe the limits on the reflector are 2° down and 6° up according to plans.
I have never flown my plane with any trailing edge down setting.
They are all hand built. So yours may be different.

Kevin

On Dec 11, 2021, at 10:30 AM, Anthony P <solarant@...> wrote:

Very interesting and informative as always.   Thanks everyone.

Follow-up on a comment by Chris Walterson and maybe a terminology lesson for me.
Chris was talking about the main wing not flying and needed to "add reflexor"  
When I think of adding reflexor, that would reduce lift on the main wing  and increase aircraft pitch.
It sounds like what he did was to add flaps, as in flaperons.
Is this correct?
How much "down aileron" can people get from their reflexor system?
I would have thought none because reflex means deflect control surface up?


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Q2 N86KL


Re: Today's tour

Kevin Boddicker
 

I agree!
All of the “episodes” have been great.
This one proves the cohesiveness of the group, and willingness, zeal, to welcome new aviators into the fold.

Sam,
Kudos for all the time you have put into this effort. You are the patriarch, even though Jerry is old as hell!!  

nuff said.


Kevin Boddicker
TriQ 200 N7868B   570 hrs
Luana, IA.



On Dec 11, 2021, at 10:21 AM, Jerry Marstall <jerrylm1986@...> wrote:

Great Forum.  Super idea.  Enjoyed the crowd.
Jerry


Re: Today's tour

Jay Scheevel
 

You are right, Brent. This is a really close group and have a great combination of loving these little airplanes and having a lot of patience for those who are learning. Also, they never give up, which is why I suppose we still have some of these great birds still flying regularly.  You really need to experience all these guys in person, so if you can make it to the Field of Dreams…. Kevin is one of a kind and from what I understood today, he will be your humble host in 2022! Yay!

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brent Sherstan
Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2021 9:35 AM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Today's tour

 

Thanks guys, really good info. And thanks again to Same for putting this all together. I'm part of a few different aircraft groups and they aren't like this. Between the Q-tours and the yearly fly-ins, you guys have a really good group!


Re: Today's tour

Brent Sherstan
 

Thanks guys, really good info. And thanks again to Same for putting this all together. I'm part of a few different aircraft groups and they aren't like this. Between the Q-tours and the yearly fly-ins, you guys have a really good group!


Re: Reminder: Q-List Zoom meeting - Ask the Pilots - Saturday 11 December - 0900 Central Time

Anthony P
 

Very interesting and informative as always.   Thanks everyone.

Follow-up on a comment by Chris Walterson and maybe a terminology lesson for me.
Chris was talking about the main wing not flying and needed to "add reflexor"  
When I think of adding reflexor, that would reduce lift on the main wing  and increase aircraft pitch.
It sounds like what he did was to add flaps, as in flaperons.
Is this correct?
How much "down aileron" can people get from their reflexor system?
I would have thought none because reflex means deflect control surface up?


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Q2 N86KL


Re: Today's tour

Jay Scheevel
 

Really enjoyed seeing (and hearing) all you guys and you not yet flying guys asked some great questions. Keep at it…get up there!

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jerry Marstall
Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2021 9:21 AM
To: Q-list IO <main@Q-List.groups.io>
Subject: [Q-List] Today's tour

 

Great Forum.  Super idea.  Enjoyed the crowd.

Jerry


Today's tour

Jerry Marstall
 

Great Forum.  Super idea.  Enjoyed the crowd.

Jerry


Re: Reminder: Q-List Zoom meeting - Ask the Pilots - Saturday 11 December - 0900 Central Time

Anthony P
 

Waiting...waiting...waiting to be let into this meeting.

Maybe I should get the hint?


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Re: Reminder: Q-List Zoom meeting - Ask the Pilots - Saturday 11 December - 0900 Central Time

Bruce Crain
 

Catch and regrease!  🤣


On Dec 10, 2021, at 12:51 PM, Paul Fisher <rv7a.n18pf@...> wrote:


I wonder why they keep letting him out!!

Paul

On Fri, Dec 10, 2021, 12:47 Mike Dwyer <q200pilot@...> wrote:
I wonder how much time Bruce has spent in prison?
LOL, Mike Dwyer

On Thu, Dec 9, 2021, 7:24 PM Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...> wrote:
Alas I will be in prison again!  Would have loved to be with you all!
Blessings!  Merry Christmas!
Bruce and Honey Lamb

---------- Original Message ----------
From: "Sam Hoskins" <sam.hoskins@...>
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: [Q-List] Reminder: Q-List Zoom meeting - Ask the Pilots - Saturday 11 December - 0900 Central Time
Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2021 14:27:39 -0800

This month, instead of a Q-Tour, let's have an Ask the Pilots Q&A session.  This is a chance for newbies, builders and wanabes to ask the guys who are actually flying those burning questions you have. This session will most likely NOT be uploaded to YouTube.
 
As always, don't log in until 9:00.
 
Sam Hoskins is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.
 
Topic: Q-List Zoom - Ask the Pilots
Time: Dec 11, 2021 09:00 AM Central Time (US and Canada)
 
Join Zoom Meeting
 
Meeting ID: 741 4587 6920
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Re: Reminder: Q-List Zoom meeting - Ask the Pilots - Saturday 11 December - 0900 Central Time

Paul Fisher
 

I wonder why they keep letting him out!!

Paul

On Fri, Dec 10, 2021, 12:47 Mike Dwyer <q200pilot@...> wrote:
I wonder how much time Bruce has spent in prison?
LOL, Mike Dwyer

On Thu, Dec 9, 2021, 7:24 PM Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...> wrote:
Alas I will be in prison again!  Would have loved to be with you all!
Blessings!  Merry Christmas!
Bruce and Honey Lamb

---------- Original Message ----------
From: "Sam Hoskins" <sam.hoskins@...>
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: [Q-List] Reminder: Q-List Zoom meeting - Ask the Pilots - Saturday 11 December - 0900 Central Time
Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2021 14:27:39 -0800

This month, instead of a Q-Tour, let's have an Ask the Pilots Q&A session.  This is a chance for newbies, builders and wanabes to ask the guys who are actually flying those burning questions you have. This session will most likely NOT be uploaded to YouTube.
 
As always, don't log in until 9:00.
 
Sam Hoskins is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.
 
Topic: Q-List Zoom - Ask the Pilots
Time: Dec 11, 2021 09:00 AM Central Time (US and Canada)
 
Join Zoom Meeting
 
Meeting ID: 741 4587 6920
Passcode: 83y89J



Re: Reminder: Q-List Zoom meeting - Ask the Pilots - Saturday 11 December - 0900 Central Time

Mike Dwyer
 

I wonder how much time Bruce has spent in prison?
LOL, Mike Dwyer

On Thu, Dec 9, 2021, 7:24 PM Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...> wrote:
Alas I will be in prison again!  Would have loved to be with you all!
Blessings!  Merry Christmas!
Bruce and Honey Lamb

---------- Original Message ----------
From: "Sam Hoskins" <sam.hoskins@...>
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: [Q-List] Reminder: Q-List Zoom meeting - Ask the Pilots - Saturday 11 December - 0900 Central Time
Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2021 14:27:39 -0800

This month, instead of a Q-Tour, let's have an Ask the Pilots Q&A session.  This is a chance for newbies, builders and wanabes to ask the guys who are actually flying those burning questions you have. This session will most likely NOT be uploaded to YouTube.
 
As always, don't log in until 9:00.
 
Sam Hoskins is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.
 
Topic: Q-List Zoom - Ask the Pilots
Time: Dec 11, 2021 09:00 AM Central Time (US and Canada)
 
Join Zoom Meeting
 
Meeting ID: 741 4587 6920
Passcode: 83y89J



Re: Reminder: Q-List Zoom meeting - Ask the Pilots - Saturday 11 December - 0900 Central Time

Bruce Crain
 

Alas I will be in prison again!  Would have loved to be with you all!
Blessings!  Merry Christmas!
Bruce and Honey Lamb


---------- Original Message ----------
From: "Sam Hoskins" <sam.hoskins@...>
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: [Q-List] Reminder: Q-List Zoom meeting - Ask the Pilots - Saturday 11 December - 0900 Central Time
Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2021 14:27:39 -0800

This month, instead of a Q-Tour, let's have an Ask the Pilots Q&A session.  This is a chance for newbies, builders and wanabes to ask the guys who are actually flying those burning questions you have. This session will most likely NOT be uploaded to YouTube.
 
As always, don't log in until 9:00.
 
Sam Hoskins is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.
 
Topic: Q-List Zoom - Ask the Pilots
Time: Dec 11, 2021 09:00 AM Central Time (US and Canada)
 
Join Zoom Meeting
https://us04web.zoom.us/j/74145876920?pwd=T0tlRmJIdGFncHJKTUJqNWt4eU5pQT09
 
Meeting ID: 741 4587 6920
Passcode: 83y89J



Reminder: Q-List Zoom meeting - Ask the Pilots - Saturday 11 December - 0900 Central Time

Sam Hoskins
 

This month, instead of a Q-Tour, let's have an Ask the Pilots Q&A session.  This is a chance for newbies, builders and wanabes to ask the guys who are actually flying those burning questions you have. This session will most likely NOT be uploaded to YouTube.
 
As always, don't log in until 9:00.
 
Sam Hoskins is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.
 
Topic: Q-List Zoom - Ask the Pilots
Time: Dec 11, 2021 09:00 AM Central Time (US and Canada)
 
Join Zoom Meeting
https://us04web.zoom.us/j/74145876920?pwd=T0tlRmJIdGFncHJKTUJqNWt4eU5pQT09
 
Meeting ID: 741 4587 6920
Passcode: 83y89J


Re: No Politics

Jim Patillo
 

Thanks for doing that Sam. You might want to add Superfluous BS as well. This site is suppose to be about building Quickies and only Quickies a rule we agreed to along time ago. 

Jim
N46JP Q200
1820 hours. 


From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@...>
Sent: Tuesday, December 7, 2021 7:56:59 AM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io>
Subject: [Special] [Q-List] No Politics
 
And that means NO POLITICS.

Sam


politics

Chris Walterson
 

NO POLITICS----------------  Thanks Sam.    See you Saturday.--------------  Chris


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Re: Fuel pump & condition inspection

Frankenbird Vern
 

 Ha! That one is good!.. Eugen can sure enough tell them he is using a lawnmower engine (although one heck of a powerful Briggs!!).  Mower blade.. a BIG one!  It is air cooled after all. :-)


From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Keith Welsh <kw544@...>
Sent: Monday, December 6, 2021 7:58 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Fuel pump & condition inspection
 
Don't have to stretch with the Onan.  It really is a lawn mower, welder, generator engine.  I've even had admirers say the prop looks like a lawn mower blade....
Not sure they were admiring though.....jealously I think?


---------- Original Message ----------
From: "Jay Scheevel" <jay@...>
To: <main@Q-List.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Fuel pump & condition inspection
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2021 17:45:51 -0700

I have an aversion to fibs even if is for a good cause, so I have come up with the following description: “A custom off-road recreational-vehicle”  That pretty much keeps everyone happy.

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Corbin via groups.io
Sent: Monday, December 6, 2021 4:56 PM
To: main@q-list.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Fuel pump & condition inspection

 

My favorite is, “it’s for my dad’s tractor”.  I even have a photo I show IF they get skeptical.

Corbin



On Dec 6, 2021, at 5:21 PM, smeshno1@... wrote:

 

 Eugen and any others.. BE SURE not to mention in any order or communication to them that the item is for airplane use.  Wink Wink.. Your working on a dune buggy or kit car... homebuilders on another blog had it happen...lawyers already got to the racing parts folks.  I guess NASCAR isn't dangerous or risky, but we are!!     


From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Anthony P <solarant@...>
Sent: Monday, December 6, 2021 8:30 AM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Fuel pump & condition inspection

 

I believe Eugen was asking about these, "two Walbro pumps and the 10 micron fuel filter from Summit Racing".

They can easily be found on the Summit Racing website.


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No Politics

Sam Hoskins
 

And that means NO POLITICS.

Sam


Re: Fuel pump & condition inspection

Frankenbird Vern
 

 I'm thinking of saying the intended use is for decorative mailboxes. Then they can argue with Mr. Postman
 
 We've  de-volved into a society that is hell bent to "protect" us from every possible contingency, Including 
as Charlie correctly brought up at FOD this year, not the most intelligent "solution" dealing with
micro-bugs in the mask. 

 You guys know that Oklahoma is going to battle against D.C.  We invite all sensible folks to participate
in doing the same in their home States because unless we act to stop this garbage, the insanity will only 
expand.  We have at least a zillion examples of how "just this time" or "it's only temporary"
or "once this crisis is over" since I was born in 1957 became oppression and deleted rights. 

 TSA is a perfect example. Hell they have legal rights to peek up your drawers now!!   
  
 Fact is this.. on a long enough timeline EVERYONE has a zero chance of physical survival in this life. Each
 and every one of us are someday Going West. 

 I personally feel that aviation is (at this time anyway) less dangerous than being a convenience store clerk,
 but I don't see the lawyers at the store front door lined up to get the government to "protect" these
 souls that get paid rather poorly for the risk they assume.  

 Really glad to be back in The Sooner State..even more so I made the choice to move here from an overbearing
 liberal controlled location in 2016.  The best decision I have made up to now.    


From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Jay Scheevel <jay@...>
Sent: Monday, December 6, 2021 11:37 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Fuel pump & condition inspection
 

I guess you could tell them you are an artist and are making “kinetic sculpture” for your non-profit museum.

 

 

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Anthony P
Sent: Monday, December 6, 2021 8:56 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Fuel pump & condition inspection

 

I had a local machine shop refuse to make some very simple parts for me as soon as I said they were for a race car.
Also, I'm having some parts delayed from Revmaster because their current supplier found out the parts were going on aircraft.

What's the world coming to?

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