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Re: Airport Operations at Commercial airports

Mike Dwyer
 

Thanks to all that replied.  So obviously we've just let the Government save us and now we have to put up with this crap.
I'd suggest everyone write their congressmen and senators to eliminate or reduce the power of the TSA.
What I see right now is all these airports just going along with whatever the TSA wants them to do because it's easier than pushing back on the TSA.

Thanks,
Mike Dwyer

Q200 Website: http://goo.gl/V8IrJF


On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 2:16 PM Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...> wrote:
I am required to have background check and badge to enter the prison that we minister.  Are pilots now considered "Terrorists"?  Probably thanks to 911 and other attacks.  And the border is porous so....
My 2 cents.
Bruce

---------- Original Message ----------
From: "Ryszard Zadow" <ryszardzadow@...>
To: main@q-list.groups.io
Cc: Q_List <Q-List@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Airport Operations at Commercial airports
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2022 12:19:11 -0500

 

On Jan 6, 2022, at 12:14, One Sky Dog via groups.io <Oneskydog=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:

New regulations for hangar use at KOGD proof city hates GA pilots and builders.
 
POLICY 2040 NONAERONAUTICAL USE OF AIRPORT HANGARS 
 
   
 

POLICY 2040 NONAERONAUTICAL USE OF AIRPORT HANGARS

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Charlie
 






On Thursday, January 6, 2022, 10:05 AM, One Sky Dog via groups.io <Oneskydog=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:

Mike,
 
Here is KOGD info it is a pain and Ogden City hates general aviation pilots and hangar owners.
 
Airport Badging | Ogden, UT 
 
   
 

Airport Badging | Ogden, UT

 

 
 
 
 
Charlie





On Thursday, January 6, 2022, 9:27 AM, Mike Dwyer <q200pilot@...> wrote:

Hi All,
Do any of you own/rent hangars at USA airports that have Scheduled airlines?
 
If so, I'd like to know how your airport handles TSA Badge requirements.
 
KPIE started charging a $20 a year badge fee and makes us take a TSA test on driving airport tugs and reporting bags that are left laying around... none of which we have at the General Aviation hangars!
 
The badge manager and I had a discussion.  He believes that all pilots flying have some sort of training and badges that allow them to walk on the ramp.  I told him that I could fly into any airport in the country and I don't need no stinking badge!  LOL.
 
Thanks,
Mike Dwyer Q200
 
Q200 Website: http://goo.gl/V8IrJF
 



Re: Ground AoA/ tailwheel angle

Bruce Crain
 

Problem is it has been a long time for lots of us from the time we went through this mod.  There are a lot of variables with respect to ground handling.  The Gall alignment,  bell crank that Jim Pattilo has on his Q200, differential braking with the rudder pedals or only having one "Johnson Bar" brake or two finger pull brakes with differential braking.  Several ways to improve the ground handling of which angle of attack is one of them.  I did what you are looking at plus I added a large non pneumatic tail wheel which helped.  Also the reflexor attached to the ailerons helps as well.  I converted mine to a TriQ 200 but flew as a Q200 for a while.  Tri Q is a different animal for ground control but slows it down a bit.  
You can do all of them if you like but many of our builders have different ideas about which one or two work best.  
You are looking the right direction to tame this bird so don't give up!  Trouble is I don't remember the numbers for degrees static.
Bruce Crain  N96BJ


---------- Original Message ----------
From: "Troy Zawlacki" <troyzc3@...>
To: "main@Q-List.groups.io Group Moderators" <main@q-list.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Ground AoA/ tailwheel angle
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2022 11:10:26 -0800

Well I guess I can interpret this as nobody really having a strong opinion on the topic. I’ll proceed with my setup and my ground aoa at 11 degrees and see how she goes!

TAZ

> On Jan 4, 2022, at 10:04 PM, Troy Zawlacki <troyzc3@...> wrote:
>
> Q-pilots,
>
> I have a question about the ground angle of attack note in the Q2 appendix "plans changes.” The note calls for setting WL15 level, and measuring from the ground to the bottom of the tailwheel. It gives a recommended range of 25-28.6” for this measurement.
>
> I am well versed in the Gall wheel alignment, and have just completed that on my plane. I am also pretty sure this note pre-dates the issues that were solved with the Gall alignment, but the Gall paper also doesn’t give an adjusted range for this tailwheel measurement.. There must still be a range right?
>
> Plus, too much AoA on the ground would mean more drag during takeoff and longer runway required right?
>
> Sam,
>
> I read your blog post about changing your tailwheel angle back shallower for reduced drag (and since you have a proper alignment now). Do you have any idea what this measurement ended up being on your plane (ground to wheel)? My plane right now with the tail spring sitting in what looks right (parallel to top fuselage shell) has a measurement of 33” or 4.5” higher than the plans note.
>
> I’m excited to hear some thoughts on this before I bond my tail spring in.
>
> TAZ





Re: Airport Operations at Commercial airports

Bruce Crain
 

I am required to have background check and badge to enter the prison that we minister.  Are pilots now considered "Terrorists"?  Probably thanks to 911 and other attacks.  And the border is porous so....
My 2 cents.
Bruce


---------- Original Message ----------
From: "Ryszard Zadow" <ryszardzadow@...>
To: main@q-list.groups.io
Cc: Q_List <Q-List@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Airport Operations at Commercial airports
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2022 12:19:11 -0500

 

On Jan 6, 2022, at 12:14, One Sky Dog via groups.io <Oneskydog@...> wrote:

New regulations for hangar use at KOGD proof city hates GA pilots and builders.
 
POLICY 2040 NONAERONAUTICAL USE OF AIRPORT HANGARS 
 
 
 
Charlie
 






On Thursday, January 6, 2022, 10:05 AM, One Sky Dog via groups.io <Oneskydog@...> wrote:

Mike,
 
Here is KOGD info it is a pain and Ogden City hates general aviation pilots and hangar owners.
 
Airport Badging | Ogden, UT 
 
   
 

Airport Badging | Ogden, UT

 

 
 
 
 
Charlie





On Thursday, January 6, 2022, 9:27 AM, Mike Dwyer <q200pilot@...> wrote:

Hi All,
Do any of you own/rent hangars at USA airports that have Scheduled airlines?
 
If so, I'd like to know how your airport handles TSA Badge requirements.
 
KPIE started charging a $20 a year badge fee and makes us take a TSA test on driving airport tugs and reporting bags that are left laying around... none of which we have at the General Aviation hangars!
 
The badge manager and I had a discussion.  He believes that all pilots flying have some sort of training and badges that allow them to walk on the ramp.  I told him that I could fly into any airport in the country and I don't need no stinking badge!  LOL.
 
Thanks,
Mike Dwyer Q200
 
Q200 Website: http://goo.gl/V8IrJF
 



Re: Ground AoA/ tailwheel angle

Troy Zawlacki
 

Well I guess I can interpret this as nobody really having a strong opinion on the topic. I’ll proceed with my setup and my ground aoa at 11 degrees and see how she goes!

TAZ

On Jan 4, 2022, at 10:04 PM, Troy Zawlacki <troyzc3@...> wrote:

Q-pilots,

I have a question about the ground angle of attack note in the Q2 appendix "plans changes.” The note calls for setting WL15 level, and measuring from the ground to the bottom of the tailwheel. It gives a recommended range of 25-28.6” for this measurement.

I am well versed in the Gall wheel alignment, and have just completed that on my plane. I am also pretty sure this note pre-dates the issues that were solved with the Gall alignment, but the Gall paper also doesn’t give an adjusted range for this tailwheel measurement.. There must still be a range right?

Plus, too much AoA on the ground would mean more drag during takeoff and longer runway required right?

Sam,

I read your blog post about changing your tailwheel angle back shallower for reduced drag (and since you have a proper alignment now). Do you have any idea what this measurement ended up being on your plane (ground to wheel)? My plane right now with the tail spring sitting in what looks right (parallel to top fuselage shell) has a measurement of 33” or 4.5” higher than the plans note.

I’m excited to hear some thoughts on this before I bond my tail spring in.

TAZ


Re: Airport Operations at Commercial airports

Terry Adams
 

KSCK two year $20 photo badge must be visible at all times. Mine is in my truck, never been stopped in 15 years.
And when I fly into other restricted airports I dial the posted gate number to access my plane. Another government failure.
The KSCK airport has a broken drive thru access gate to our hangers. Rather than fix the gate, the county has been paying for a 24 hour guard for the last 14 months

Samsung Galaxy Note 10+


From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Ryszard Zadow <ryszardzadow@...>
Sent: Thursday, January 6, 2022 9:19:11 AM
To: main@q-list.groups.io <main@q-list.groups.io>
Cc: Q_List <Q-List@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Airport Operations at Commercial airports
 

On Jan 6, 2022, at 12:14, One Sky Dog via groups.io <Oneskydog@...> wrote:

 New regulations for hangar use at KOGD proof city hates GA pilots and builders.

POLICY 2040 NONAERONAUTICAL USE OF AIRPORT HANGARS 



Charlie







On Thursday, January 6, 2022, 10:05 AM, One Sky Dog via groups.io <Oneskydog@...> wrote:

Mike,

Here is KOGD info it is a pain and Ogden City hates general aviation pilots and hangar owners.

Airport Badging | Ogden, UT 

Airport Badging | Ogden, UT




Charlie





On Thursday, January 6, 2022, 9:27 AM, Mike Dwyer <q200pilot@...> wrote:

Hi All,
Do any of you own/rent hangars at USA airports that have Scheduled airlines?

If so, I'd like to know how your airport handles TSA Badge requirements.

KPIE started charging a $20 a year badge fee and makes us take a TSA test on driving airport tugs and reporting bags that are left laying around... none of which we have at the General Aviation hangars!

The badge manager and I had a discussion.  He believes that all pilots flying have some sort of training and badges that allow them to walk on the ramp.  I told him that I could fly into any airport in the country and I don't need no stinking badge!  LOL.

Thanks,
Mike Dwyer Q200

Q200 Website: http://goo.gl/V8IrJF


Re: Airport Operations at Commercial airports

Ryszard Zadow
 

On Jan 6, 2022, at 12:14, One Sky Dog via groups.io <Oneskydog@...> wrote:

 New regulations for hangar use at KOGD proof city hates GA pilots and builders.

POLICY 2040 NONAERONAUTICAL USE OF AIRPORT HANGARS 



Charlie







On Thursday, January 6, 2022, 10:05 AM, One Sky Dog via groups.io <Oneskydog@...> wrote:

Mike,

Here is KOGD info it is a pain and Ogden City hates general aviation pilots and hangar owners.

Airport Badging | Ogden, UT 

Airport Badging | Ogden, UT




Charlie





On Thursday, January 6, 2022, 9:27 AM, Mike Dwyer <q200pilot@...> wrote:

Hi All,
Do any of you own/rent hangars at USA airports that have Scheduled airlines?

If so, I'd like to know how your airport handles TSA Badge requirements.

KPIE started charging a $20 a year badge fee and makes us take a TSA test on driving airport tugs and reporting bags that are left laying around... none of which we have at the General Aviation hangars!

The badge manager and I had a discussion.  He believes that all pilots flying have some sort of training and badges that allow them to walk on the ramp.  I told him that I could fly into any airport in the country and I don't need no stinking badge!  LOL.

Thanks,
Mike Dwyer Q200

Q200 Website: http://goo.gl/V8IrJF


Re: Airport Operations at Commercial airports

Jerry Marstall
 

Mike's you are going to lose this battle. 
Here in KAVL we have had badges for decades. $20 is a bargain. With the badge we can drive to our hangars. Training course is mandatory and enforced.
Adapt - unfortunately this is our present world - thanks to the terrorists.
Jerry.

On Thu, Jan 6, 2022, 11:27 AM Mike Dwyer <q200pilot@...> wrote:
Hi All,
Do any of you own/rent hangars at USA airports that have Scheduled airlines?

If so, I'd like to know how your airport handles TSA Badge requirements.

KPIE started charging a $20 a year badge fee and makes us take a TSA test on driving airport tugs and reporting bags that are left laying around... none of which we have at the General Aviation hangars!

The badge manager and I had a discussion.  He believes that all pilots flying have some sort of training and badges that allow them to walk on the ramp.  I told him that I could fly into any airport in the country and I don't need no stinking badge!  LOL.

Thanks,
Mike Dwyer Q200

Q200 Website: http://goo.gl/V8IrJF


Re: Airport Operations at Commercial airports

Paul Fisher
 

I don't live on an airport with air carrier services, but I know a few people who live at the class C airport across the river.  Seems like $20 is the number they talk about, and yes I think they have to take some training to get their badge.  So it sounds similar to what you have.

They have cheaper gas at the big airport (seems wierd, but they do!), so I go there from time to time to get gas.  I don't need a badge as long as I stick close to my plane.  If I wandered around the hangars someone might get suspicious.  So far I've never had a problem.

Paul

On Thu, Jan 6, 2022, 10:27 Mike Dwyer <q200pilot@...> wrote:
Hi All,
Do any of you own/rent hangars at USA airports that have Scheduled airlines?

If so, I'd like to know how your airport handles TSA Badge requirements.

KPIE started charging a $20 a year badge fee and makes us take a TSA test on driving airport tugs and reporting bags that are left laying around... none of which we have at the General Aviation hangars!

The badge manager and I had a discussion.  He believes that all pilots flying have some sort of training and badges that allow them to walk on the ramp.  I told him that I could fly into any airport in the country and I don't need no stinking badge!  LOL.

Thanks,
Mike Dwyer Q200

Q200 Website: http://goo.gl/V8IrJF


Re: Airport Operations at Commercial airports

One Sky Dog
 

On Thursday, January 6, 2022, 10:05 AM, One Sky Dog via groups.io <Oneskydog@...> wrote:

Mike,

Here is KOGD info it is a pain and Ogden City hates general aviation pilots and hangar owners.

Airport Badging | Ogden, UT 

Airport Badging | Ogden, UT




Charlie





On Thursday, January 6, 2022, 9:27 AM, Mike Dwyer <q200pilot@...> wrote:

Hi All,
Do any of you own/rent hangars at USA airports that have Scheduled airlines?

If so, I'd like to know how your airport handles TSA Badge requirements.

KPIE started charging a $20 a year badge fee and makes us take a TSA test on driving airport tugs and reporting bags that are left laying around... none of which we have at the General Aviation hangars!

The badge manager and I had a discussion.  He believes that all pilots flying have some sort of training and badges that allow them to walk on the ramp.  I told him that I could fly into any airport in the country and I don't need no stinking badge!  LOL.

Thanks,
Mike Dwyer Q200

Q200 Website: http://goo.gl/V8IrJF


Re: Airport Operations at Commercial airports

One Sky Dog
 

Mike,

Here is KOGD info it is a pain and Ogden City hates general aviation pilots and hangar owners.

On Thursday, January 6, 2022, 9:27 AM, Mike Dwyer <q200pilot@...> wrote:

Hi All,
Do any of you own/rent hangars at USA airports that have Scheduled airlines?

If so, I'd like to know how your airport handles TSA Badge requirements.

KPIE started charging a $20 a year badge fee and makes us take a TSA test on driving airport tugs and reporting bags that are left laying around... none of which we have at the General Aviation hangars!

The badge manager and I had a discussion.  He believes that all pilots flying have some sort of training and badges that allow them to walk on the ramp.  I told him that I could fly into any airport in the country and I don't need no stinking badge!  LOL.

Thanks,
Mike Dwyer Q200

Q200 Website: http://goo.gl/V8IrJF


Re: Airport Operations at Commercial airports

Jay Scheevel
 

Hi Mike,

 

I test flew my plane at the local commercial airport with its 10,000’X150’ runway. I bunked in another guy’s hangar until I got proficient enough to move back to my home grassroots field. I had to get a TSA approved badge to be on the field inside the fence even though I entered and exited through the GA portion of the field.

 

I understand that individual airport management have some latitude as to how they handle this, and some choose to designate only certain portions as TSA secure areas. In those areas you need a badge if you exit the airplane. I did not stick around long enough to become an expert on that. I like life simple: No tower, no commercial flights, no hassle, no landing fees, etc.

 

Cheers,
Jay

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Dwyer
Sent: Thursday, January 6, 2022 9:27 AM
To: Q_List <Q-List@groups.io>
Subject: [Q-List] Airport Operations at Commercial airports

 

Hi All,

Do any of you own/rent hangars at USA airports that have Scheduled airlines?

 

If so, I'd like to know how your airport handles TSA Badge requirements.

 

KPIE started charging a $20 a year badge fee and makes us take a TSA test on driving airport tugs and reporting bags that are left laying around... none of which we have at the General Aviation hangars!

 

The badge manager and I had a discussion.  He believes that all pilots flying have some sort of training and badges that allow them to walk on the ramp.  I told him that I could fly into any airport in the country and I don't need no stinking badge!  LOL.

 

Thanks,

Mike Dwyer Q200

 

Q200 Website: http://goo.gl/V8IrJF


Airport Operations at Commercial airports

Mike Dwyer
 

Hi All,
Do any of you own/rent hangars at USA airports that have Scheduled airlines?

If so, I'd like to know how your airport handles TSA Badge requirements.

KPIE started charging a $20 a year badge fee and makes us take a TSA test on driving airport tugs and reporting bags that are left laying around... none of which we have at the General Aviation hangars!

The badge manager and I had a discussion.  He believes that all pilots flying have some sort of training and badges that allow them to walk on the ramp.  I told him that I could fly into any airport in the country and I don't need no stinking badge!  LOL.

Thanks,
Mike Dwyer Q200

Q200 Website: http://goo.gl/V8IrJF


Re: FOD 22

Jay Scheevel
 

Great to hear that Green Shorts Productions Inc. will be back on the scene to produce another award winning documentary! Drop me an e-mail offline “Alan”. Would be great to catch up.

Cheers,
Jay


On Jan 6, 2022, at 1:34 AM, millenniumflier via groups.io <millenniumflier@...> wrote:


Hey Kevin,

Yippee, you came through for us, Bro!  Sounds like a great plan, i'm definitely planning on making it, been a long while now, i need to get my FOD fix!

Looking forward to seeing our old, and new gang again, this will be epic!  

Hope you and everyone all had a happy and healthy New Year, looking forward to seeing you soon,

Alan


-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Boddicker <trumanst@...>
To: Q List <Q-List@groups.io>
Sent: Sat, Jan 1, 2022 11:49 am
Subject: [Q-List] FOD 22

I have been procrastinating, for no other reason than that’s what I do.

FOD 22 will be at KDEH. 15,16,17,18 Sept 22.
Where would we be without acronyms?

Details for lodging etc to come later.

Thought about going too Beatrice again. Called the AP manager, she has no place to store planes in case of storms.
She was very welcoming, but has rented out their big hanger.

We have, at DEH, enough room to get everyone inside. If we talk nice, probably for free. 11-29 Rwy 4000’.

The alternate for an unmanageable cross wind will be Scott Field, 20 miles south 4150’ 17-35.
There is a huge hanger there, that I think I can talk the Mayor into letting us use in case of bad weather, as well.

So mark your calendars. make plans, carve a notch in your stick, take a photo of this email, kiss your wife goodby, adios your friends,
pack up the babies and grab the old ladies (Neil Diamond), and shag your ass to Decorah.

This invite includes you Mike Dwyer, and all the Dragonfly folks. Sky Dog, please forward to the DF list. Thanks.

So. There you have it. If I don’t see you before then, I WILL see you then!

Happy New Year!





Kevin Boddicker
TriQ 200 N7868B  570 hrs
Luana, IA.









Re: New Years Flight

millenniumflier@...
 

Yup, right on target, Jon!  This “Alan” guy, to protect his true identity, has done acting with green screen, special effects, you name it.  In fact a few years ago, he was spokesperson for “Stormwater Awareness Week,” hosted by the State of California to highten public awareness of stormwater run-off.   The promo video that the State had contracted the production company to do used tons of special effects right in the hangar to simulate flight…. Check it out:

 https://mikesaeroclassics.com/stormwater-awareness-week-2019/

Scroll down to the bottom of the page for the “Stormin’ Over California” video…. Gotta love what CGI  can do for movies!

Rumor has it that “Alan” was in Minneapolis in September for a film, playing a very famous character…. Stay tuned!

Alan


-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Finley <jd@...>
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Sent: Mon, Jan 3, 2022 3:18 am
Subject: Re: [Q-List] New Years Flight

Exactly right Mike!!  This thing is a handful - nearly impossible to keep straight and level!! 😉

Thanks to all for the kind words!  

Jay: I have friend that's a big wig in the movie industry - let's call him "Alan" to protect his true identity. He's got me setup with all kinds of high tech wizardry and access to a bunch of CGI guys. You just can't believe anything coming out of my production room!! 😎

Jon Finley
Somewhere in the Southwest flying an RV-4


Re: FOD 22

millenniumflier@...
 

Hey Kevin,

Yippee, you came through for us, Bro!  Sounds like a great plan, i'm definitely planning on making it, been a long while now, i need to get my FOD fix!

Looking forward to seeing our old, and new gang again, this will be epic!  

Hope you and everyone all had a happy and healthy New Year, looking forward to seeing you soon,

Alan


-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Boddicker <trumanst@...>
To: Q List <Q-List@groups.io>
Sent: Sat, Jan 1, 2022 11:49 am
Subject: [Q-List] FOD 22

I have been procrastinating, for no other reason than that’s what I do.

FOD 22 will be at KDEH. 15,16,17,18 Sept 22.
Where would we be without acronyms?

Details for lodging etc to come later.

Thought about going too Beatrice again. Called the AP manager, she has no place to store planes in case of storms.
She was very welcoming, but has rented out their big hanger.

We have, at DEH, enough room to get everyone inside. If we talk nice, probably for free. 11-29 Rwy 4000’.

The alternate for an unmanageable cross wind will be Scott Field, 20 miles south 4150’ 17-35.
There is a huge hanger there, that I think I can talk the Mayor into letting us use in case of bad weather, as well.

So mark your calendars. make plans, carve a notch in your stick, take a photo of this email, kiss your wife goodby, adios your friends,
pack up the babies and grab the old ladies (Neil Diamond), and shag your ass to Decorah.

This invite includes you Mike Dwyer, and all the Dragonfly folks. Sky Dog, please forward to the DF list. Thanks.

So. There you have it. If I don’t see you before then, I WILL see you then!

Happy New Year!





Kevin Boddicker
TriQ 200 N7868B  570 hrs
Luana, IA.









Flight report 2022, (Mostly for the Quickie Builders group)

Mike Dwyer
 

My first flight of 2022 occurred on 1-5-2022.  On New Years day we were fogged in bad.  Today didn't look too bad.  All the local airports were VFR with light winds.  Supposed to be in the 70F's.  Looks pretty good here, let's go flying!
IMG_20220105_091841.jpg
Got to the airport and the engine was 65F.  Started up pretty well.  Taxi out and take off on RWY 36.  The plan is to go high and do some ham radio using the highest tower in Florida!  I generally get a pile up of hams wanting to talk to an airplane.

Looking out over the Gulf of Mexico it doesn't look great.

IMG_20220105_111923.jpg

Looking back to inland FL it looks even less great!  I think I'll do a 180 and head back to the airport.

IMG_20220105_112429.jpg
Over the Gulf the visibility wasn't bad and I got back below the clouds at 4000' and headed home.  Logged only 45 min flight.  I then went and pulled up the weather report again.  Due to the 4000' ceiling all the airports are VFR!  I guess I was meant to stay below the clouds today!

Mike Dwyer Q200 N3QP

Q200 Website: http://goo.gl/V8IrJF


Re: FOD 22

Kevin Boddicker
 

John,
The year of our Lord 2022.

Kevin


On Jan 4, 2022, at 11:37 PM, John Hoxie via groups.io <hoxdesigns@...> wrote:


Kevin, shouldn't that be FOD 32? We already have the 30 hat.

 
John Hoxie
He is no fool, who gives up what he can not keep, to gain what he can not loose -- Jim Elliot


On Saturday, January 1, 2022, 12:48:59 PM MST, Kevin Boddicker <trumanst@...> wrote:


I have been procrastinating, for no other reason than that’s what I do.

FOD 22 will be at KDEH. 15,16,17,18 Sept 22.
Where would we be without acronyms?

Details for lodging etc to come later.

Thought about going too Beatrice again. Called the AP manager, she has no place to store planes in case of storms.
She was very welcoming, but has rented out their big hanger.

We have, at DEH, enough room to get everyone inside. If we talk nice, probably for free. 11-29 Rwy 4000’.

The alternate for an unmanageable cross wind will be Scott Field, 20 miles south 4150’ 17-35.
There is a huge hanger there, that I think I can talk the Mayor into letting us use in case of bad weather, as well.

So mark your calendars. make plans, carve a notch in your stick, take a photo of this email, kiss your wife goodby, adios your friends,
pack up the babies and grab the old ladies (Neil Diamond), and shag your ass to Decorah.

This invite includes you Mike Dwyer, and all the Dragonfly folks. Sky Dog, please forward to the DF list. Thanks.

So. There you have it. If I don’t see you before then, I WILL see you then!

Happy New Year!





Kevin Boddicker
TriQ 200 N7868B  570 hrs
Luana, IA.









Ground AoA/ tailwheel angle

Troy Zawlacki
 

Q-pilots,

I have a question about the ground angle of attack note in the Q2 appendix "plans changes.” The note calls for setting WL15 level, and measuring from the ground to the bottom of the tailwheel. It gives a recommended range of 25-28.6” for this measurement.

I am well versed in the Gall wheel alignment, and have just completed that on my plane. I am also pretty sure this note pre-dates the issues that were solved with the Gall alignment, but the Gall paper also doesn’t give an adjusted range for this tailwheel measurement.. There must still be a range right?

Plus, too much AoA on the ground would mean more drag during takeoff and longer runway required right?

Sam,

I read your blog post about changing your tailwheel angle back shallower for reduced drag (and since you have a proper alignment now). Do you have any idea what this measurement ended up being on your plane (ground to wheel)? My plane right now with the tail spring sitting in what looks right (parallel to top fuselage shell) has a measurement of 33” or 4.5” higher than the plans note.

I’m excited to hear some thoughts on this before I bond my tail spring in.

TAZ


Re: FOD 22

John Hoxie
 

Kevin, shouldn't that be FOD 32? We already have the 30 hat.

 
John Hoxie
He is no fool, who gives up what he can not keep, to gain what he can not loose -- Jim Elliot


On Saturday, January 1, 2022, 12:48:59 PM MST, Kevin Boddicker <trumanst@...> wrote:


I have been procrastinating, for no other reason than that’s what I do.

FOD 22 will be at KDEH. 15,16,17,18 Sept 22.
Where would we be without acronyms?

Details for lodging etc to come later.

Thought about going too Beatrice again. Called the AP manager, she has no place to store planes in case of storms.
She was very welcoming, but has rented out their big hanger.

We have, at DEH, enough room to get everyone inside. If we talk nice, probably for free. 11-29 Rwy 4000’.

The alternate for an unmanageable cross wind will be Scott Field, 20 miles south 4150’ 17-35.
There is a huge hanger there, that I think I can talk the Mayor into letting us use in case of bad weather, as well.

So mark your calendars. make plans, carve a notch in your stick, take a photo of this email, kiss your wife goodby, adios your friends,
pack up the babies and grab the old ladies (Neil Diamond), and shag your ass to Decorah.

This invite includes you Mike Dwyer, and all the Dragonfly folks. Sky Dog, please forward to the DF list. Thanks.

So. There you have it. If I don’t see you before then, I WILL see you then!

Happy New Year!





Kevin Boddicker
TriQ 200 N7868B  570 hrs
Luana, IA.









Re: FOD 22

Kevin Boddicker
 

Charlie,
Yes camping is allowed. Or take first dibs on the pilot lounge. 
No shower, but ac/heat, half bath, very nice.

Looking forward to seeing you!

Kevin


On Jan 4, 2022, at 6:44 AM, One Sky Dog via groups.io <Oneskydog@...> wrote:

 Kevin,

I am also on the calendar at 1285 miles planning on having the Dragonfly finished and tested this summer.

Is camping allowed at KDEH ? Asking for a poor veteran.

Forecast 65 F today and sunny 🌞 

C’Ya!

One Sky Dog





On Tuesday, January 4, 2022, 5:25 AM, Kevin Boddicker <trumanst@...> wrote:

Most excellent!


On Jan 3, 2022, at 9:26 PM, Mike Dwyer <q200pilot@...> wrote:


I've put FOD on my calendar and plotted a flight plan.  1022 miles.  Hope the weather cooperates!
Mike Dwyer Q200

On Sat, Jan 1, 2022, 2:48 PM Kevin Boddicker <trumanst@...> wrote:
I have been procrastinating, for no other reason than that’s what I do.

FOD 22 will be at KDEH. 15,16,17,18 Sept 22.
Where would we be without acronyms?

Details for lodging etc to come later.

Thought about going too Beatrice again. Called the AP manager, she has no place to store planes in case of storms.
She was very welcoming, but has rented out their big hanger.

We have, at DEH, enough room to get everyone inside. If we talk nice, probably for free. 11-29 Rwy 4000’.

The alternate for an unmanageable cross wind will be Scott Field, 20 miles south 4150’ 17-35.
There is a huge hanger there, that I think I can talk the Mayor into letting us use in case of bad weather, as well.

So mark your calendars. make plans, carve a notch in your stick, take a photo of this email, kiss your wife goodby, adios your friends,
pack up the babies and grab the old ladies (Neil Diamond), and shag your ass to Decorah.

This invite includes you Mike Dwyer, and all the Dragonfly folks. Sky Dog, please forward to the DF list. Thanks.

So. There you have it. If I don’t see you before then, I WILL see you then!

Happy New Year!





Kevin Boddicker
TriQ 200 N7868B   570 hrs
Luana, IA.








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