Re: First Flight of the year - finally!

Corbin
Wow….crazy! Sure could have had a worse outcome. Glad you both are safe! Corbin
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On Jan 14, 2022, at 12:57 PM, Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...> wrote:
Hey Thanks Jay! I jumped on it and ordered the CO unit. Now I can put it in the offending bathroom where the return air is closest to the bathroom and will cycle the air through it more than the rest of the house. My current CO detector is on the ceiling in the hall but it wasn't set up in a place where it could get the earliest results apparently.
Fly Safe you's guys!
Bruce Crain
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Re: First Flight of the year - finally!

Bruce Crain
Hey Thanks Jay! I jumped on it and ordered the CO unit. Now I can put it in the offending bathroom where the return air is closest to the bathroom and will cycle the air through it more than the rest of the house. My current CO detector is on the ceiling in the hall but it wasn't set up in a place where it could get the earliest results apparently.
Fly Safe you's guys!
Bruce Crain
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From: "Jay Scheevel" <jay@...> To: <main@Q-List.groups.io> Subject: Re: [Q-List] First Flight of the year - finally! Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2022 10:23:03 -0700
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Re: First Flight of the year - finally!

Jay Scheevel
Glad you are still with us, Bruce! I am sure there is a place reserved for you when the time comes, but we enjoy having you down here to entertain us all. D------------------G-Em-C----D-----------G-Em-C-D “Oh won’t you stay just a little bit longer….” You may need to get Honey-Lamb to duct tape the CO alarm to your forehead each night to be sure! Seriously, though. I got a nice Christmas gift this year (shown below). It is a solid state, light, small and portable CO alarm that can be put anywhere. I don’t know the exact price, since it was a gift, but it lists for $70 from: https://radiantinstruments.com/geiger-co-carbon-monoxide-detector/. It has both a bright LED and buzzer alarm, and an anodized aluminum housing, so if you hang it in front of you on the panel, it should fill the bill. Cheers, Jay 
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From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bruce Crain Sent: Friday, January 14, 2022 7:29 AM To: main@Q-List.groups.io Subject: Re: [Q-List] First Flight of the year - finally! We have a CO detector but the heat/ac guys said they don't always catch it as with our scenario. Bruce ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Paul Fisher" <rv7a.n18pf@...> To: main@q-list.groups.io Subject: Re: [Q-List] First Flight of the year - finally! Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2022 07:56:19 -0600 Whoa, that's scary. I'm glad you figured it out before you passed out. Don't forget about a CO detector for your planes as well. It's the same problem with the same tragic result. On Fri, Jan 14, 2022, 07:41 Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...> wrote: I flew yesterday in our TriQ 200 for all of .2 hrs! Limiting factor was lack of fuel do to a flight in December. Would like to fly it again today but we are getting a new heater/air conditioner in our house. Mainly because a couple of days ago I woke up and went to the head. After peeing I passed out and Honey Lamb came to see what happened. She woke me and I was dizzy. She then started to feel dizzy and I told her to open the door and shut off the heater! I still didn’t feel like moving until the fresh air made it my way. She started feeling better and we opened 4 other doors. We called the heat and air condition man and tested our unit. 2 of the top chambers were cracked and letting carbon monoxide into our house! I remember thinking before I passed our that I might be dying! After the event I thought dying isn’t so bad! You just go blank. I also thought about what Heaven is going to be like and had a bit of regret still being here. I told my son’s that I would be in paradise but they would be here sorting through all of our “stuff”. He laughed at knowing it would be a daunting process! OMGosh! “And that’s all I know ‘bout that”! Bruce and Honey Lamb (still residing in Enid) On Jan 14, 2022, at 6:39 AM, Kevin Boddicker <trumanst@...> wrote:
Wish I would have thought of that!!!! On Jan 14, 2022, at 5:56 AM, Jon Finley <jd@...> wrote: Great to hear Paul!
You may have invented the first excercise/weight loss program for pilots! Shoveling snow and flying! I can imagine the Richard Simmons/Paul Fisher duo video!!
Jon Finley Somewhere in the Southwest flying an RV-4
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Re: First Flight of the year - finally!
Glad to hear that you're both okay. Close call for sure.
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On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 9:31 AM, Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...> wrote: We have a CO detector but the heat/ac guys said they don't always catch it as with our scenario.
Bruce ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Paul Fisher" <rv7a.n18pf@...> To: main@q-list.groups.io Subject: Re: [Q-List] First Flight of the year - finally! Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2022 07:56:19 -0600
Whoa, that's scary. I'm glad you figured it out before you passed out.
Don't forget about a CO detector for your planes as well. It's the same problem with the same tragic result.
On Fri, Jan 14, 2022, 07:41 Bruce Crain < jcrain2@...> wrote:
I flew yesterday in our TriQ 200 for all of .2 hrs! Limiting factor was lack of fuel do to a flight in December. Would like to fly it again today but we are getting a new heater/air conditioner in our house. Mainly because a couple of days ago I woke up and went to the head. After peeing I passed out and Honey Lamb came to see what happened. She woke me and I was dizzy. She then started to feel dizzy and I told her to open the door and shut off the heater! I still didn’t feel like moving until the fresh air made it my way. She started feeling better and we opened 4 other doors. We called the heat and air condition man and tested our unit. 2 of the top chambers were cracked and letting carbon monoxide into our house! I remember thinking before I passed our that I might be dying! After the event I thought dying isn’t so bad! You just go blank. I also thought about what Heaven is going to be like and had a bit of regret still being here.
I told my son’s that I would be in paradise but they would be here sorting through all of our “stuff”. He laughed at knowing it would be a daunting process! OMGosh!
“And that’s all I know ‘bout that”!
Bruce and Honey Lamb (still residing in Enid)
On Jan 14, 2022, at 6:39 AM, Kevin Boddicker <trumanst@...> wrote:
Wish I would have thought of that!!!!
On Jan 14, 2022, at 5:56 AM, Jon Finley < jd@...> wrote:
Great to hear Paul!
You may have invented the first excercise/weight loss program for pilots! Shoveling snow and flying! I can imagine the Richard Simmons/Paul Fisher duo video!!
Jon Finley Somewhere in the Southwest flying an RV-4
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Re: First Flight of the year - finally!

Bruce Crain
We have a CO detector but the heat/ac guys said they don't always catch it as with our scenario.
Bruce
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---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Paul Fisher" <rv7a.n18pf@...> To: main@q-list.groups.io Subject: Re: [Q-List] First Flight of the year - finally! Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2022 07:56:19 -0600
Whoa, that's scary. I'm glad you figured it out before you passed out.
Don't forget about a CO detector for your planes as well. It's the same problem with the same tragic result.
On Fri, Jan 14, 2022, 07:41 Bruce Crain < jcrain2@...> wrote:
I flew yesterday in our TriQ 200 for all of .2 hrs! Limiting factor was lack of fuel do to a flight in December. Would like to fly it again today but we are getting a new heater/air conditioner in our house. Mainly because a couple of days ago I woke up and went to the head. After peeing I passed out and Honey Lamb came to see what happened. She woke me and I was dizzy. She then started to feel dizzy and I told her to open the door and shut off the heater! I still didn’t feel like moving until the fresh air made it my way. She started feeling better and we opened 4 other doors. We called the heat and air condition man and tested our unit. 2 of the top chambers were cracked and letting carbon monoxide into our house! I remember thinking before I passed our that I might be dying! After the event I thought dying isn’t so bad! You just go blank. I also thought about what Heaven is going to be like and had a bit of regret still being here.
I told my son’s that I would be in paradise but they would be here sorting through all of our “stuff”. He laughed at knowing it would be a daunting process! OMGosh!
“And that’s all I know ‘bout that”!
Bruce and Honey Lamb (still residing in Enid)
On Jan 14, 2022, at 6:39 AM, Kevin Boddicker <trumanst@...> wrote:
Wish I would have thought of that!!!!
On Jan 14, 2022, at 5:56 AM, Jon Finley < jd@...> wrote:
Great to hear Paul!
You may have invented the first excercise/weight loss program for pilots! Shoveling snow and flying! I can imagine the Richard Simmons/Paul Fisher duo video!!
Jon Finley Somewhere in the Southwest flying an RV-4
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Whoa, that's scary. I'm glad you figured it out before you passed out.
Don't forget about a CO detector for your planes as well. It's the same problem with the same tragic result.
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On Fri, Jan 14, 2022, 07:41 Bruce Crain < jcrain2@...> wrote: I flew yesterday in our TriQ 200 for all of .2 hrs! Limiting factor was lack of fuel do to a flight in December. Would like to fly it again today but we are getting a new heater/air conditioner in our house. Mainly because a couple of days ago I woke up and went to the head. After peeing I passed out and Honey Lamb came to see what happened. She woke me and I was dizzy. She then started to feel dizzy and I told her to open the door and shut off the heater! I still didn’t feel like moving until the fresh air made it my way. She started feeling better and we opened 4 other doors. We called the heat and air condition man and tested our unit. 2 of the top chambers were cracked and letting carbon monoxide into our house! I remember thinking before I passed our that I might be dying! After the event I thought dying isn’t so bad! You just go blank. I also thought about what Heaven is going to be like and had a bit of regret still being here. I told my son’s that I would be in paradise but they would be here sorting through all of our “stuff”. He laughed at knowing it would be a daunting process! OMGosh! “And that’s all I know ‘bout that”! Bruce and Honey Lamb (still residing in Enid) On Jan 14, 2022, at 6:39 AM, Kevin Boddicker <trumanst@...> wrote:
Wish I would have thought of that!!!! On Jan 14, 2022, at 5:56 AM, Jon Finley < jd@...> wrote:
Great to hear Paul!
You may have invented the first excercise/weight loss program for pilots! Shoveling snow and flying! I can imagine the Richard Simmons/Paul Fisher duo video!!
Jon Finley Somewhere in the Southwest flying an RV-4
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It's because your a pilot that you recognized the symptoms. Might want to get a co detector in the house. It's obviously not your time to go! Blessings, Mike Dwyer
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On Fri, Jan 14, 2022, 8:41 AM Bruce Crain < jcrain2@...> wrote: I flew yesterday in our TriQ 200 for all of .2 hrs! Limiting factor was lack of fuel do to a flight in December. Would like to fly it again today but we are getting a new heater/air conditioner in our house. Mainly because a couple of days ago I woke up and went to the head. After peeing I passed out and Honey Lamb came to see what happened. She woke me and I was dizzy. She then started to feel dizzy and I told her to open the door and shut off the heater! I still didn’t feel like moving until the fresh air made it my way. She started feeling better and we opened 4 other doors. We called the heat and air condition man and tested our unit. 2 of the top chambers were cracked and letting carbon monoxide into our house! I remember thinking before I passed our that I might be dying! After the event I thought dying isn’t so bad! You just go blank. I also thought about what Heaven is going to be like and had a bit of regret still being here. I told my son’s that I would be in paradise but they would be here sorting through all of our “stuff”. He laughed at knowing it would be a daunting process! OMGosh! “And that’s all I know ‘bout that”! Bruce and Honey Lamb (still residing in Enid) On Jan 14, 2022, at 6:39 AM, Kevin Boddicker <trumanst@...> wrote:
Wish I would have thought of that!!!! On Jan 14, 2022, at 5:56 AM, Jon Finley < jd@...> wrote:
Great to hear Paul!
You may have invented the first excercise/weight loss program for pilots! Shoveling snow and flying! I can imagine the Richard Simmons/Paul Fisher duo video!!
Jon Finley Somewhere in the Southwest flying an RV-4
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Re: First Flight of the year - finally!

Bruce Crain
I flew yesterday in our TriQ 200 for all of .2 hrs! Limiting factor was lack of fuel do to a flight in December. Would like to fly it again today but we are getting a new heater/air conditioner in our house. Mainly because a couple of days ago I woke up and went to the head. After peeing I passed out and Honey Lamb came to see what happened. She woke me and I was dizzy. She then started to feel dizzy and I told her to open the door and shut off the heater! I still didn’t feel like moving until the fresh air made it my way. She started feeling better and we opened 4 other doors. We called the heat and air condition man and tested our unit. 2 of the top chambers were cracked and letting carbon monoxide into our house! I remember thinking before I passed our that I might be dying! After the event I thought dying isn’t so bad! You just go blank. I also thought about what Heaven is going to be like and had a bit of regret still being here. I told my son’s that I would be in paradise but they would be here sorting through all of our “stuff”. He laughed at knowing it would be a daunting process! OMGosh! “And that’s all I know ‘bout that”! Bruce and Honey Lamb (still residing in Enid)
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On Jan 14, 2022, at 6:39 AM, Kevin Boddicker <trumanst@...> wrote:
Wish I would have thought of that!!!! On Jan 14, 2022, at 5:56 AM, Jon Finley < jd@...> wrote:
Great to hear Paul!
You may have invented the first excercise/weight loss program for pilots! Shoveling snow and flying! I can imagine the Richard Simmons/Paul Fisher duo video!!
Jon Finley Somewhere in the Southwest flying an RV-4
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Wish I would have thought of that!!!!
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On Jan 14, 2022, at 5:56 AM, Jon Finley < jd@...> wrote:
Great to hear Paul!
You may have invented the first excercise/weight loss program for pilots! Shoveling snow and flying! I can imagine the Richard Simmons/Paul Fisher duo video!!
Jon Finley Somewhere in the Southwest flying an RV-4
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Re: First Flight of the year - finally!
Great to hear Paul!
You may have invented the first excercise/weight loss program for pilots! Shoveling snow and flying! I can imagine the Richard Simmons/Paul Fisher duo video!!
Jon Finley Somewhere in the Southwest flying an RV-4
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Re: First Flight of the year - finally!
Push in the ruby red engine knob, click you starter button three times and say "there's no place like home." Rick Hole
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If I only had a plane? Or brain???
On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 8:05 PM, Jay Scheevel Sounds like a line from the Wizard of OZ, Dave 😊 Cheers, Jay Love your report Paul. It was a great day here too, very similar to the weather that you had. I was thinking, if I only had an engine...... Dave D On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 5:44 PM, Jerry Marstall Great report. I got my first flight in on the 5th. Nothing to write about. Flew yesterday. Nearly have my hours for the year. Jerry I finally got enough of the snow cleared to get the Q-200 to the runway. They tend to plow down the center of the taxiways, but my gear is wider than they typically plow. So between my shoveling and mother nature's melting, we finally got it done today! It was 40F, so there was enough moisture in the air to reduce the visibility to 8 miles, but otherwise it was clear and sunny. The flight itself was uneventful - which was good because I wasn't sure if I still remembered how to fly it! After most of an hour I returned to the airport. Now I had to remember how to land! The approach was perfect - exactly on airspeed all the way down, 100MPH on final, 90MPH over the threshold. I had a slight left crosswind, so the left main gently touched down, then the right main. No bouncing, no struggling to keep it on the centerline - just a nice smooth rollout. However the problem with the landing (and this is a big problem!) was that nobody was there to see it!! It was the best landing I have made in a long while and nobody can confirm it. I was going to go around and do another one, but there was no way it would be as good as that one, so I quit while I was ahead. I did a very slow taxi back to the hangar (to miss the snow banks), and put it away. Anyway, nothing exciting, but I got my first 1.0 hour on the hobbs for 2022 thirteen days into the new year. If I'm going to get more flying in this year, I'm going to have to get going! Happy New Year to everyone, thirteen days late! I hope to see you all in Decorah in September.
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If I only had a plane? Or brain???
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On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 8:05 PM, Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote: Sounds like a line from the Wizard of OZ, Dave 😊 Cheers, Jay From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Dugas via groups.io Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2022 5:05 PM To: main@Q-List.groups.io Subject: Re: [Q-List] First Flight of the year - finally! Love your report Paul. It was a great day here too, very similar to the weather that you had. I was thinking, if I only had an engine...... Dave D On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 5:44 PM, Jerry Marstall Great report. I got my first flight in on the 5th. Nothing to write about. Flew yesterday. Nearly have my hours for the year. Jerry I finally got enough of the snow cleared to get the Q-200 to the runway. They tend to plow down the center of the taxiways, but my gear is wider than they typically plow. So between my shoveling and mother nature's melting, we finally got it done today! It was 40F, so there was enough moisture in the air to reduce the visibility to 8 miles, but otherwise it was clear and sunny. The flight itself was uneventful - which was good because I wasn't sure if I still remembered how to fly it! After most of an hour I returned to the airport. Now I had to remember how to land! The approach was perfect - exactly on airspeed all the way down, 100MPH on final, 90MPH over the threshold. I had a slight left crosswind, so the left main gently touched down, then the right main. No bouncing, no struggling to keep it on the centerline - just a nice smooth rollout. However the problem with the landing (and this is a big problem!) was that nobody was there to see it!! It was the best landing I have made in a long while and nobody can confirm it. I was going to go around and do another one, but there was no way it would be as good as that one, so I quit while I was ahead. I did a very slow taxi back to the hangar (to miss the snow banks), and put it away. Anyway, nothing exciting, but I got my first 1.0 hour on the hobbs for 2022 thirteen days into the new year. If I'm going to get more flying in this year, I'm going to have to get going! Happy New Year to everyone, thirteen days late! I hope to see you all in Decorah in September.
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Re: First Flight of the year - finally!

Jay Scheevel
Sounds like a line from the Wizard of OZ, Dave 😊 Cheers, Jay
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From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Dugas via groups.io Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2022 5:05 PM To: main@Q-List.groups.io Subject: Re: [Q-List] First Flight of the year - finally! Love your report Paul. It was a great day here too, very similar to the weather that you had. I was thinking, if I only had an engine...... Dave D On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 5:44 PM, Jerry Marstall Great report. I got my first flight in on the 5th. Nothing to write about. Flew yesterday. Nearly have my hours for the year. Jerry I finally got enough of the snow cleared to get the Q-200 to the runway. They tend to plow down the center of the taxiways, but my gear is wider than they typically plow. So between my shoveling and mother nature's melting, we finally got it done today! It was 40F, so there was enough moisture in the air to reduce the visibility to 8 miles, but otherwise it was clear and sunny. The flight itself was uneventful - which was good because I wasn't sure if I still remembered how to fly it! After most of an hour I returned to the airport. Now I had to remember how to land! The approach was perfect - exactly on airspeed all the way down, 100MPH on final, 90MPH over the threshold. I had a slight left crosswind, so the left main gently touched down, then the right main. No bouncing, no struggling to keep it on the centerline - just a nice smooth rollout. However the problem with the landing (and this is a big problem!) was that nobody was there to see it!! It was the best landing I have made in a long while and nobody can confirm it. I was going to go around and do another one, but there was no way it would be as good as that one, so I quit while I was ahead. I did a very slow taxi back to the hangar (to miss the snow banks), and put it away. Anyway, nothing exciting, but I got my first 1.0 hour on the hobbs for 2022 thirteen days into the new year. If I'm going to get more flying in this year, I'm going to have to get going! Happy New Year to everyone, thirteen days late! I hope to see you all in Decorah in September.
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Re: Re designed midspan elevator pivot

Jay Scheevel
Basically, yes. Just removed the under camber on the elevator. The rest of the airfoil is unchanged (to facilitate only making a new elevator, not the whole wing). This is not the only consideration though. The change also has an effect on the pitching moment and the effective lift polar and maximum lift to drag. These all will affect the way the canard performs in flight. There is no free lunch. Cheers, Jay
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From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2022 4:20 PM To: main@Q-List.groups.io Subject: Re: [Q-List] Re designed midspan elevator pivot I can talk more about this with respect to the changes in canard performance if people are interested. Cheers, Jay
Jay: Looking at your PDF, did you just smooth out the cusp or do something more drastic? -- -MD #2827 (still thinking about planning on visualizing how to finish building)
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Love your report Paul. It was a great day here too, very similar to the weather that you had. I was thinking, if I only had an engine......
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On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 5:44 PM, Jerry Marstall <jerrylm1986@...> wrote: Great report. I got my first flight in on the 5th. Nothing to write about. Flew yesterday. Nearly have my hours for the year. Jerry I finally got enough of the snow cleared to get the Q-200 to the runway. They tend to plow down the center of the taxiways, but my gear is wider than they typically plow. So between my shoveling and mother nature's melting, we finally got it done today!
It was 40F, so there was enough moisture in the air to reduce the visibility to 8 miles, but otherwise it was clear and sunny. The flight itself was uneventful - which was good because I wasn't sure if I still remembered how to fly it! After most of an hour I returned to the airport. Now I had to remember how to land!
The approach was perfect - exactly on airspeed all the way down, 100MPH on final, 90MPH over the threshold. I had a slight left crosswind, so the left main gently touched down, then the right main. No bouncing, no struggling to keep it on the centerline - just a nice smooth rollout.
However the problem with the landing (and this is a big problem!) was that nobody was there to see it!! It was the best landing I have made in a long while and nobody can confirm it. I was going to go around and do another one, but there was no way it would be as good as that one, so I quit while I was ahead. I did a very slow taxi back to the hangar (to miss the snow banks), and put it away.
Anyway, nothing exciting, but I got my first 1.0 hour on the hobbs for 2022 thirteen days into the new year. If I'm going to get more flying in this year, I'm going to have to get going!
Happy New Year to everyone, thirteen days late! I hope to see you all in Decorah in September.
Paul Fisher Q-200 N17PF
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I can talk more about this with respect to the changes in canard performance if people are interested.
Cheers,
Jay
Jay: Looking at your PDF, did you just smooth out the cusp or do something more drastic?
-- -MD #2827 (still thinking about planning on visualizing how to finish building)
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Re: First Flight of the year - finally!

Jay Scheevel
Very Nice, Paul. You are the man and the proof that it is like riding a bicycle! 😉 I am still waiting to make my first flight. I hope to do so this weekend. Cheers, Jay
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From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Paul Fisher Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2022 2:34 PM To: main@q-list.groups.io Subject: [Q-List] First Flight of the year - finally! I finally got enough of the snow cleared to get the Q-200 to the runway. They tend to plow down the center of the taxiways, but my gear is wider than they typically plow. So between my shoveling and mother nature's melting, we finally got it done today! It was 40F, so there was enough moisture in the air to reduce the visibility to 8 miles, but otherwise it was clear and sunny. The flight itself was uneventful - which was good because I wasn't sure if I still remembered how to fly it! After most of an hour I returned to the airport. Now I had to remember how to land! The approach was perfect - exactly on airspeed all the way down, 100MPH on final, 90MPH over the threshold. I had a slight left crosswind, so the left main gently touched down, then the right main. No bouncing, no struggling to keep it on the centerline - just a nice smooth rollout. However the problem with the landing (and this is a big problem!) was that nobody was there to see it!! It was the best landing I have made in a long while and nobody can confirm it. I was going to go around and do another one, but there was no way it would be as good as that one, so I quit while I was ahead. I did a very slow taxi back to the hangar (to miss the snow banks), and put it away. Anyway, nothing exciting, but I got my first 1.0 hour on the hobbs for 2022 thirteen days into the new year. If I'm going to get more flying in this year, I'm going to have to get going! Happy New Year to everyone, thirteen days late! I hope to see you all in Decorah in September.
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Great report. I got my first flight in on the 5th. Nothing to write about. Flew yesterday. Nearly have my hours for the year. Jerry
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I finally got enough of the snow cleared to get the Q-200 to the runway. They tend to plow down the center of the taxiways, but my gear is wider than they typically plow. So between my shoveling and mother nature's melting, we finally got it done today!
It was 40F, so there was enough moisture in the air to reduce the visibility to 8 miles, but otherwise it was clear and sunny. The flight itself was uneventful - which was good because I wasn't sure if I still remembered how to fly it! After most of an hour I returned to the airport. Now I had to remember how to land!
The approach was perfect - exactly on airspeed all the way down, 100MPH on final, 90MPH over the threshold. I had a slight left crosswind, so the left main gently touched down, then the right main. No bouncing, no struggling to keep it on the centerline - just a nice smooth rollout.
However the problem with the landing (and this is a big problem!) was that nobody was there to see it!! It was the best landing I have made in a long while and nobody can confirm it. I was going to go around and do another one, but there was no way it would be as good as that one, so I quit while I was ahead. I did a very slow taxi back to the hangar (to miss the snow banks), and put it away.
Anyway, nothing exciting, but I got my first 1.0 hour on the hobbs for 2022 thirteen days into the new year. If I'm going to get more flying in this year, I'm going to have to get going!
Happy New Year to everyone, thirteen days late! I hope to see you all in Decorah in September.
Paul Fisher Q-200 N17PF
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I finally got enough of the snow cleared to get the Q-200 to the runway. They tend to plow down the center of the taxiways, but my gear is wider than they typically plow. So between my shoveling and mother nature's melting, we finally got it done today!
It was 40F, so there was enough moisture in the air to reduce the visibility to 8 miles, but otherwise it was clear and sunny. The flight itself was uneventful - which was good because I wasn't sure if I still remembered how to fly it! After most of an hour I returned to the airport. Now I had to remember how to land!
The approach was perfect - exactly on airspeed all the way down, 100MPH on final, 90MPH over the threshold. I had a slight left crosswind, so the left main gently touched down, then the right main. No bouncing, no struggling to keep it on the centerline - just a nice smooth rollout.
However the problem with the landing (and this is a big problem!) was that nobody was there to see it!! It was the best landing I have made in a long while and nobody can confirm it. I was going to go around and do another one, but there was no way it would be as good as that one, so I quit while I was ahead. I did a very slow taxi back to the hangar (to miss the snow banks), and put it away.
Anyway, nothing exciting, but I got my first 1.0 hour on the hobbs for 2022 thirteen days into the new year. If I'm going to get more flying in this year, I'm going to have to get going!
Happy New Year to everyone, thirteen days late! I hope to see you all in Decorah in September.
Paul Fisher Q-200 N17PF
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Re: Re designed midspan elevator pivot
Yes. As part of my standard preflight I go to the midspan hinge area and press up and down on the elevator. No movement is good. Mike Dwyer Q200
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Hi All
Busy restoring a Tri Quickie Revmaster that was standing for about 17 years.
Regarding the mid span hinge, when disassembling the left hinge it needed to be forced to remove the elevator and thus replaced. On the right hand side I’m not sure the hinge was ever engaged.
Is there a way of checking if the elevator is correctly engaged in the hinge?
Any help would be appreciated. I’m based in Johannesburg, South Africa 🇿🇦 Regards
Stephen Theron +27 84 699 1684
Jay,
Sparrow strainers are required on my Dragonfly.
Charlie On Wednesday, January 12, 2022, 10:59 AM, Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote: Hi Vern, If you are using the GU airfoil design, which I think you are, you will not need a sparrow strainer. Charlie can correct me if I am wrong, but I think that is the case. Cheers, Jay Jay.. would you send you elevator profile plots? My aircraft will need both elevators built and adding a third pivot is already part of my canard...it has the pads bonded to the aft spar. PM if you prefer. As for my wing I have one aileron..the other was never built that I can see. The difference might be I have the GU canard airfoil (being Dragonfly of course). I don't remember if you have the LS1 or GU canard for your Tri-Q. You see why my project from the git go is a true Frankenbird..pieces here and there..the kit was picked over and who knows what parts were left behind. No matter..it is all Shop time anyway and I never intended to build a clone.
I will put it in the files section, Sam. You are right Mike. Retrofitting would probably be impossible unless you build new elevators, but if someone is working on an unbuilt kit, it would work. Some have been known to build new elevators too. Right, Sam? I have an elevator design on my computer that would eliminate the sparrow strainer that I may build some day. Will go with the same design for the pivot if I build those. Jay Kay, how about archiving it on the Files section of the Q-List? On Tue, Jan 11, 2022, 6:53 PM Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote: As some of you may remember, I redesigned the mid-span pivot for the elevators on my Q-2, essentially retaining none of the original design, excepting the BL position of the pivot on the span of the elevator. I was motivated to do this re design based on a fatal accident caused by the failure of a midspan pivot pin on the original design. NTSB determined that the pivot pin failed as a result of corrosion and metal fatigue. I wrote up my re design document at the time and posted it on the Yahoo group and labelled it as untested and unproven. I now have almost 200 flight hours on this design and it retains its original smooth operation, shows no wear and has demonstrated the design intent of superior strength, low friction, and zero corrosion. In addition, I can visually inspect all critical components of this pivot in a few seconds during a preflight. So I am pleased to report that this re design is now a tested modification. I am reposting my design document for anyone who is interested. Cheers, Jay Scheevel Tri-Q2 N8WQ 200 hours
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