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Re: Brake and tire installation on Q2

Corbin <c_geiser@...>
 

Agreed…looks like a longer spacer is needed.
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Corbin 
N121CG


Re: Brake and tire installation on Q2

Anthony P
 

Seems pretty clear from this pic that you need a narrower tire or a longer spacer between the wheel and rotor.


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Q2 N86KL


Re: Brake and tire installation on Q2

Mike Steinsland
 

Yeah I hear you Fred

 So now what I've done is a turn that bolt around and I've got the clearance inside now but the inside of the caliper where the end of the other bolt screws in is still very close to the tire.

I'm thinking one good bump and bad things gonna happen.

I've attached another picture ** note the bolt turned around 


On Fri., Apr. 15, 2022, 1:26 p.m. Fredd Baber, <freddb43@...> wrote:
This reminds me of my time in the Marines....one piece of equipment we always had to inspect and repair had a similar situation; tight space, three parts that needed to be removed, inspected and replaced.  We made a small piece that would slide in, keep the three pieces as a "unit" for removal and replacement.  

Tricks of the trade.

Fredd

On Fri, Apr 15, 2022 at 10:54 AM Frankenbird Vern <smeshno1@...> wrote:
 The key being the tube MUST be fitted to length to be on the IML (Inner Mold Line) of the wheelpant surfaces which permits the bearings/tire/wheel to be dropped out of the wheelpant as one assembly.  Make the tool and keep as part of the maintenance kit. I made one of these for my Cessna 150..works like a charm.  

After repair, for first installation, or whatever to the tire assembly;  the tool then allows the various parts to be preloaded on the tube "tool" with the tire/wheel assembly and then lifted easily by hand and re-aligned in the wheel pant. Be sure to lube the O.D. (Outside Diameter) of the tool with a light oil or very thin touch of grease overall. 

Once the assembly is raised into the wheelpant the tube tool is sighted in the center of the wheelpant holes, simply push the steel axel (also lubed please for future ease of removal!) through which pushes the tool out. Everything stays in place,  no cussing required.

  Personally I use candle wax rubbed on the axle OD for similar installations. What do you think Boelube is? Pink beeswax mostly.  I use the same on bolts in front suspensions on cars I owned for the same reason. No (ok..LESS) cussing later on trying to repair or maintain.  I keep cars for decades be the way.. I own unusual autos for some reason..probably why I want a weird looking airplane too. Fits my personallity. :-)

 Inside the factory Jim these start out as Shop Aids. We would huddle with the mechanics down at the aircraft and throw ideas at how to best approach the installations. Years ago we had Shop Aids running out our ears, but now we tool plan these into in CATIA because the tooling folks to have digital dimensional replacement definition which as you know is a Quality Control point. If the tool ain't right the airplane ain't either. 

 The last 4 Atlas Air 747 are on the final join line now. Waaaa..my baby is going into history!!!  No more 747 because all the tooling on the backshops is being removed and scrapped. I think the entire 737 production line is going to move to Everett. They are being delivered out of Everett already..not Renton. Then Renton probably will close. For business it makes sense but it is tragic for the folks living South of Everett. Think about the drive on I-5 every day!!  Terrible.       

 Vern..otherwise known as Forest Gump at the lazy B, now in OKC

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Corbin,

The trick is to cut a length of aluminum tube the width of the inside of the wheel pant. Insert the aluminum tube (same diameter as existing) through the wheel bearings and install the necessary spacers on either side of the tube. Slide the entire wheel, tube and spacers up into the wheel pant. Then push the AC axle tube through the wheel, sliding the tube you made, out. Insert the axle, tighten and safety axle nuts. This job takes about 10 minutes. Hope this helps. 

Best regards,
Jim
N46JP - Q200

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Subject: Re: [Q-List] Brake and tire installation on Q2
 
This is one of the toughest areas to work on.  The first time I removed both tires and brakes and re-installed then it took 5-6 hours.  The second time was more frustrating but 2-3 hours.  The key is to place the tire up onto the wheel pant, hold in place with your knees, hands, everything ya got and then grab a spacer and start cussing as you place the inner one, slide the axle through both spacer and wheel.  Then you can take a break because the wheel is held up now.  Next, take the outside spacer and (this is the tougher side) use two fingers to place the spacer so the axle can continue through.  It’s not easy due to the lack of room for your hand.  It’s frustrating.

after you do it 3-4 times it gets easier.  Now, my 17 year old daughter helps me and we get it done in 30 minutes or less.  
--

Corbin 
N121CG


Re: Brake and tire installation on Q2

Fredd Baber
 

This reminds me of my time in the Marines....one piece of equipment we always had to inspect and repair had a similar situation; tight space, three parts that needed to be removed, inspected and replaced.  We made a small piece that would slide in, keep the three pieces as a "unit" for removal and replacement.  

Tricks of the trade.

Fredd

On Fri, Apr 15, 2022 at 10:54 AM Frankenbird Vern <smeshno1@...> wrote:
 The key being the tube MUST be fitted to length to be on the IML (Inner Mold Line) of the wheelpant surfaces which permits the bearings/tire/wheel to be dropped out of the wheelpant as one assembly.  Make the tool and keep as part of the maintenance kit. I made one of these for my Cessna 150..works like a charm.  

After repair, for first installation, or whatever to the tire assembly;  the tool then allows the various parts to be preloaded on the tube "tool" with the tire/wheel assembly and then lifted easily by hand and re-aligned in the wheel pant. Be sure to lube the O.D. (Outside Diameter) of the tool with a light oil or very thin touch of grease overall. 

Once the assembly is raised into the wheelpant the tube tool is sighted in the center of the wheelpant holes, simply push the steel axel (also lubed please for future ease of removal!) through which pushes the tool out. Everything stays in place,  no cussing required.

  Personally I use candle wax rubbed on the axle OD for similar installations. What do you think Boelube is? Pink beeswax mostly.  I use the same on bolts in front suspensions on cars I owned for the same reason. No (ok..LESS) cussing later on trying to repair or maintain.  I keep cars for decades be the way.. I own unusual autos for some reason..probably why I want a weird looking airplane too. Fits my personallity. :-)

 Inside the factory Jim these start out as Shop Aids. We would huddle with the mechanics down at the aircraft and throw ideas at how to best approach the installations. Years ago we had Shop Aids running out our ears, but now we tool plan these into in CATIA because the tooling folks to have digital dimensional replacement definition which as you know is a Quality Control point. If the tool ain't right the airplane ain't either. 

 The last 4 Atlas Air 747 are on the final join line now. Waaaa..my baby is going into history!!!  No more 747 because all the tooling on the backshops is being removed and scrapped. I think the entire 737 production line is going to move to Everett. They are being delivered out of Everett already..not Renton. Then Renton probably will close. For business it makes sense but it is tragic for the folks living South of Everett. Think about the drive on I-5 every day!!  Terrible.       

 Vern..otherwise known as Forest Gump at the lazy B, now in OKC

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Subject: Re: [Q-List] Brake and tire installation on Q2
 
Corbin,

The trick is to cut a length of aluminum tube the width of the inside of the wheel pant. Insert the aluminum tube (same diameter as existing) through the wheel bearings and install the necessary spacers on either side of the tube. Slide the entire wheel, tube and spacers up into the wheel pant. Then push the AC axle tube through the wheel, sliding the tube you made, out. Insert the axle, tighten and safety axle nuts. This job takes about 10 minutes. Hope this helps. 

Best regards,
Jim
N46JP - Q200

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Subject: Re: [Q-List] Brake and tire installation on Q2
 
This is one of the toughest areas to work on.  The first time I removed both tires and brakes and re-installed then it took 5-6 hours.  The second time was more frustrating but 2-3 hours.  The key is to place the tire up onto the wheel pant, hold in place with your knees, hands, everything ya got and then grab a spacer and start cussing as you place the inner one, slide the axle through both spacer and wheel.  Then you can take a break because the wheel is held up now.  Next, take the outside spacer and (this is the tougher side) use two fingers to place the spacer so the axle can continue through.  It’s not easy due to the lack of room for your hand.  It’s frustrating.

after you do it 3-4 times it gets easier.  Now, my 17 year old daughter helps me and we get it done in 30 minutes or less.  
--

Corbin 
N121CG


Re: Brake and tire installation on Q2

Mike Steinsland
 

So here is where I'm at after a nights sleep
I was able to get the wheel assembly in using the shortened axle tube tool to hold the spacers in place.
My issue is the clearance of the bolts and the inside of the caliper very close to the tire.
I've attached a picture of a loosely installed caliper.

What have I got wrong here?

On Fri., Apr. 15, 2022, 12:13 p.m. Jim Patillo, <Logistics_engineering@...> wrote:
Yes caliper stay in place in the wheel pant. 

Jim
N46JP Q200

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Subject: Re: [Q-List] Brake and tire installation on Q2
 
So Jim
Ate you doing that with tha calipers already in?
I should mention I have McCreary tires on the rim.

On Fri., Apr. 15, 2022, 3:32 a.m. Corbin via groups.io, <c_geiser=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hey Jim,

Good to hear from you.  Unfortunately, my wheel pants are too narrow at the bottom for that trick.  I guess others have the same inside width at the bottom?

Corbin

On Apr 15, 2022, at 2:04 AM, Jim Patillo <Logistics_engineering@...> wrote:


Corbin,

The trick is to cut a length of aluminum tube the width of the inside of the wheel pant. Insert the aluminum tube (same diameter as existing) through the wheel bearings and install the necessary spacers on either side of the tube. Slide the entire wheel, tube and spacers up into the wheel pant. Then push the AC axle tube through the wheel, sliding the tube you made, out. Insert the axle, tighten and safety axle nuts. This job takes about 10 minutes. Hope this helps. 

Best regards,
Jim
N46JP - Q200

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Subject: Re: [Q-List] Brake and tire installation on Q2
 
This is one of the toughest areas to work on.  The first time I removed both tires and brakes and re-installed then it took 5-6 hours.  The second time was more frustrating but 2-3 hours.  The key is to place the tire up onto the wheel pant, hold in place with your knees, hands, everything ya got and then grab a spacer and start cussing as you place the inner one, slide the axle through both spacer and wheel.  Then you can take a break because the wheel is held up now.  Next, take the outside spacer and (this is the tougher side) use two fingers to place the spacer so the axle can continue through.  It’s not easy due to the lack of room for your hand.  It’s frustrating.

after you do it 3-4 times it gets easier.  Now, my 17 year old daughter helps me and we get it done in 30 minutes or less.  
--

Corbin 
N121CG

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Corbin 
N121CG


Re: Brake and tire installation on Q2

Jim Patillo
 

Yes caliper stay in place in the wheel pant. 

Jim
N46JP Q200

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Subject: Re: [Q-List] Brake and tire installation on Q2
 
So Jim
Ate you doing that with tha calipers already in?
I should mention I have McCreary tires on the rim.

On Fri., Apr. 15, 2022, 3:32 a.m. Corbin via groups.io, <c_geiser=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hey Jim,

Good to hear from you.  Unfortunately, my wheel pants are too narrow at the bottom for that trick.  I guess others have the same inside width at the bottom?

Corbin

On Apr 15, 2022, at 2:04 AM, Jim Patillo <Logistics_engineering@...> wrote:


Corbin,

The trick is to cut a length of aluminum tube the width of the inside of the wheel pant. Insert the aluminum tube (same diameter as existing) through the wheel bearings and install the necessary spacers on either side of the tube. Slide the entire wheel, tube and spacers up into the wheel pant. Then push the AC axle tube through the wheel, sliding the tube you made, out. Insert the axle, tighten and safety axle nuts. This job takes about 10 minutes. Hope this helps. 

Best regards,
Jim
N46JP - Q200

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Subject: Re: [Q-List] Brake and tire installation on Q2
 
This is one of the toughest areas to work on.  The first time I removed both tires and brakes and re-installed then it took 5-6 hours.  The second time was more frustrating but 2-3 hours.  The key is to place the tire up onto the wheel pant, hold in place with your knees, hands, everything ya got and then grab a spacer and start cussing as you place the inner one, slide the axle through both spacer and wheel.  Then you can take a break because the wheel is held up now.  Next, take the outside spacer and (this is the tougher side) use two fingers to place the spacer so the axle can continue through.  It’s not easy due to the lack of room for your hand.  It’s frustrating.

after you do it 3-4 times it gets easier.  Now, my 17 year old daughter helps me and we get it done in 30 minutes or less.  
--

Corbin 
N121CG

--

Corbin 
N121CG


Re: Brake and tire installation on Q2

Frankenbird Vern
 

 The key being the tube MUST be fitted to length to be on the IML (Inner Mold Line) of the wheelpant surfaces which permits the bearings/tire/wheel to be dropped out of the wheelpant as one assembly.  Make the tool and keep as part of the maintenance kit. I made one of these for my Cessna 150..works like a charm.  

After repair, for first installation, or whatever to the tire assembly;  the tool then allows the various parts to be preloaded on the tube "tool" with the tire/wheel assembly and then lifted easily by hand and re-aligned in the wheel pant. Be sure to lube the O.D. (Outside Diameter) of the tool with a light oil or very thin touch of grease overall. 

Once the assembly is raised into the wheelpant the tube tool is sighted in the center of the wheelpant holes, simply push the steel axel (also lubed please for future ease of removal!) through which pushes the tool out. Everything stays in place,  no cussing required.

  Personally I use candle wax rubbed on the axle OD for similar installations. What do you think Boelube is? Pink beeswax mostly.  I use the same on bolts in front suspensions on cars I owned for the same reason. No (ok..LESS) cussing later on trying to repair or maintain.  I keep cars for decades be the way.. I own unusual autos for some reason..probably why I want a weird looking airplane too. Fits my personallity. :-)

 Inside the factory Jim these start out as Shop Aids. We would huddle with the mechanics down at the aircraft and throw ideas at how to best approach the installations. Years ago we had Shop Aids running out our ears, but now we tool plan these into in CATIA because the tooling folks to have digital dimensional replacement definition which as you know is a Quality Control point. If the tool ain't right the airplane ain't either. 

 The last 4 Atlas Air 747 are on the final join line now. Waaaa..my baby is going into history!!!  No more 747 because all the tooling on the backshops is being removed and scrapped. I think the entire 737 production line is going to move to Everett. They are being delivered out of Everett already..not Renton. Then Renton probably will close. For business it makes sense but it is tragic for the folks living South of Everett. Think about the drive on I-5 every day!!  Terrible.       

 Vern..otherwise known as Forest Gump at the lazy B, now in OKC

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Subject: Re: [Q-List] Brake and tire installation on Q2
 
Corbin,

The trick is to cut a length of aluminum tube the width of the inside of the wheel pant. Insert the aluminum tube (same diameter as existing) through the wheel bearings and install the necessary spacers on either side of the tube. Slide the entire wheel, tube and spacers up into the wheel pant. Then push the AC axle tube through the wheel, sliding the tube you made, out. Insert the axle, tighten and safety axle nuts. This job takes about 10 minutes. Hope this helps. 

Best regards,
Jim
N46JP - Q200

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Subject: Re: [Q-List] Brake and tire installation on Q2
 
This is one of the toughest areas to work on.  The first time I removed both tires and brakes and re-installed then it took 5-6 hours.  The second time was more frustrating but 2-3 hours.  The key is to place the tire up onto the wheel pant, hold in place with your knees, hands, everything ya got and then grab a spacer and start cussing as you place the inner one, slide the axle through both spacer and wheel.  Then you can take a break because the wheel is held up now.  Next, take the outside spacer and (this is the tougher side) use two fingers to place the spacer so the axle can continue through.  It’s not easy due to the lack of room for your hand.  It’s frustrating.

after you do it 3-4 times it gets easier.  Now, my 17 year old daughter helps me and we get it done in 30 minutes or less.  
--

Corbin 
N121CG


Re: Brake and tire installation on Q2

Mike Steinsland
 

So Jim
Ate you doing that with tha calipers already in?
I should mention I have McCreary tires on the rim.

On Fri., Apr. 15, 2022, 3:32 a.m. Corbin via groups.io, <c_geiser=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hey Jim,

Good to hear from you.  Unfortunately, my wheel pants are too narrow at the bottom for that trick.  I guess others have the same inside width at the bottom?

Corbin

On Apr 15, 2022, at 2:04 AM, Jim Patillo <Logistics_engineering@...> wrote:


Corbin,

The trick is to cut a length of aluminum tube the width of the inside of the wheel pant. Insert the aluminum tube (same diameter as existing) through the wheel bearings and install the necessary spacers on either side of the tube. Slide the entire wheel, tube and spacers up into the wheel pant. Then push the AC axle tube through the wheel, sliding the tube you made, out. Insert the axle, tighten and safety axle nuts. This job takes about 10 minutes. Hope this helps. 

Best regards,
Jim
N46JP - Q200

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To: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Brake and tire installation on Q2
 
This is one of the toughest areas to work on.  The first time I removed both tires and brakes and re-installed then it took 5-6 hours.  The second time was more frustrating but 2-3 hours.  The key is to place the tire up onto the wheel pant, hold in place with your knees, hands, everything ya got and then grab a spacer and start cussing as you place the inner one, slide the axle through both spacer and wheel.  Then you can take a break because the wheel is held up now.  Next, take the outside spacer and (this is the tougher side) use two fingers to place the spacer so the axle can continue through.  It’s not easy due to the lack of room for your hand.  It’s frustrating.

after you do it 3-4 times it gets easier.  Now, my 17 year old daughter helps me and we get it done in 30 minutes or less.  
--

Corbin 
N121CG

--

Corbin 
N121CG


Re: Brake and tire installation on Q2

Corbin <c_geiser@...>
 

Hey Jim,

Good to hear from you.  Unfortunately, my wheel pants are too narrow at the bottom for that trick.  I guess others have the same inside width at the bottom?

Corbin

On Apr 15, 2022, at 2:04 AM, Jim Patillo <Logistics_engineering@...> wrote:


Corbin,

The trick is to cut a length of aluminum tube the width of the inside of the wheel pant. Insert the aluminum tube (same diameter as existing) through the wheel bearings and install the necessary spacers on either side of the tube. Slide the entire wheel, tube and spacers up into the wheel pant. Then push the AC axle tube through the wheel, sliding the tube you made, out. Insert the axle, tighten and safety axle nuts. This job takes about 10 minutes. Hope this helps. 

Best regards,
Jim
N46JP - Q200

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To: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Brake and tire installation on Q2
 
This is one of the toughest areas to work on.  The first time I removed both tires and brakes and re-installed then it took 5-6 hours.  The second time was more frustrating but 2-3 hours.  The key is to place the tire up onto the wheel pant, hold in place with your knees, hands, everything ya got and then grab a spacer and start cussing as you place the inner one, slide the axle through both spacer and wheel.  Then you can take a break because the wheel is held up now.  Next, take the outside spacer and (this is the tougher side) use two fingers to place the spacer so the axle can continue through.  It’s not easy due to the lack of room for your hand.  It’s frustrating.

after you do it 3-4 times it gets easier.  Now, my 17 year old daughter helps me and we get it done in 30 minutes or less.  
--

Corbin 
N121CG

--

Corbin 
N121CG


Re: Brake and tire installation on Q2

Jim Patillo
 

Corbin,

The trick is to cut a length of aluminum tube the width of the inside of the wheel pant. Insert the aluminum tube (same diameter as existing) through the wheel bearings and install the necessary spacers on either side of the tube. Slide the entire wheel, tube and spacers up into the wheel pant. Then push the AC axle tube through the wheel, sliding the tube you made, out. Insert the axle, tighten and safety axle nuts. This job takes about 10 minutes. Hope this helps. 

Best regards,
Jim
N46JP - Q200

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To: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Brake and tire installation on Q2
 
This is one of the toughest areas to work on.  The first time I removed both tires and brakes and re-installed then it took 5-6 hours.  The second time was more frustrating but 2-3 hours.  The key is to place the tire up onto the wheel pant, hold in place with your knees, hands, everything ya got and then grab a spacer and start cussing as you place the inner one, slide the axle through both spacer and wheel.  Then you can take a break because the wheel is held up now.  Next, take the outside spacer and (this is the tougher side) use two fingers to place the spacer so the axle can continue through.  It’s not easy due to the lack of room for your hand.  It’s frustrating.

after you do it 3-4 times it gets easier.  Now, my 17 year old daughter helps me and we get it done in 30 minutes or less.  
--

Corbin 
N121CG


Re: Q2 Rescue Project

Jay Scheevel
 

Whose plane are you considering?Most of us know all the Q2’s in that neighborhood.

Cheers,
Jay 

On Apr 14, 2022, at 8:54 PM, Robert Schmid <robert@...> wrote:

Me and the plane are located in Northern California, thanks for asking
--
Robert "TheFrisco" Schmid
(408) 805-5450

www.facebook.com/TheFlyingFriscos
www.theflyingfriscos.com

Love building planes almost as much as flying. Latest completed build is "Loki", a Chinook Plus 2 bush plane.


Re: Q2 Rescue Project

 

Me and the plane are located in Northern California, thanks for asking
--
Robert "TheFrisco" Schmid
(408) 805-5450

www.facebook.com/TheFlyingFriscos
www.theflyingfriscos.com

Love building planes almost as much as flying. Latest completed build is "Loki", a Chinook Plus 2 bush plane.


Re: Really so hard to land?

britmcman99
 

408 area code. You are practically neighbors. 

Phil Lankford

On Apr 14, 2022, at 3:56 PM, Robert Schmid <robert@...> wrote:



[Edited Message Follows]

Thanks Jim for "biting", and yes I'd love to talk. I sent a text message to the number in your signature but you can also reach me at 408-805-5450.

Robert
(408) 805-5450

www.facebook.com/TheFlyingFriscos
www.theflyingfriscos.com

Love building planes almost as much as flying. Latest completed build is "Loki", a Chinook Plus 2 bush plane.


Re: Brake and tire installation on Q2

Corbin <c_geiser@...>
 

This is one of the toughest areas to work on.  The first time I removed both tires and brakes and re-installed then it took 5-6 hours.  The second time was more frustrating but 2-3 hours.  The key is to place the tire up onto the wheel pant, hold in place with your knees, hands, everything ya got and then grab a spacer and start cussing as you place the inner one, slide the axle through both spacer and wheel.  Then you can take a break because the wheel is held up now.  Next, take the outside spacer and (this is the tougher side) use two fingers to place the spacer so the axle can continue through.  It’s not easy due to the lack of room for your hand.  It’s frustrating.

after you do it 3-4 times it gets easier.  Now, my 17 year old daughter helps me and we get it done in 30 minutes or less.  
--

Corbin 
N121CG


Brake and tire installation on Q2

Mike Steinsland
 

Well I've just finished redoing the Gall wheel alignment and am now on to fitting the wheels and brakes into that dinky little space.
I figure there's two ways I can approach this
1. trial and error until I pull out what little hair I have left, or,
2. ask you guys what is the procedure for fitting this stuff in.

I have the Coughlin brake set up.
I'm looking at it and it seems like the tires are too wide to slide in with the brakes already mounted.
I've got a smaller tube through the axle that will just keep the spacers in place. Once I have that lined up with the axle holes I'll slide the axle through and push the smaller tube out. but danged if I can figure out how to get that puppy and the brakes in.

One advantage I do have is that the airplane is upside down.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers
Mike in Parry Sound



Re: Really so hard to land?

Jay Scheevel
 

The program that I use gets telemetry data from the GoPro camera and then computes the results to put in the gauges, so the speed is groundspeed, but it is close to actual IAS because of the conditions on the days when those videos were shot.

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Schmid
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2022 4:58 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Really so hard to land?

 

Awesome video Jay, how did you get the stats and map on there in post?
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Re: Really so hard to land?

 

Awesome video Jay, how did you get the stats and map on there in post?
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Robert "TheFrisco" Schmid
(408) 805-5450

www.facebook.com/TheFlyingFriscos
www.theflyingfriscos.com

Love building planes almost as much as flying. Latest completed build is "Loki", a Chinook Plus 2 bush plane.


Re: Really so hard to land?

 
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Thanks Jim for "biting", and yes I'd love to talk. I sent a text message to the number in your signature but you can also reach me at 408-805-5450.

Robert
(408) 805-5450

www.facebook.com/TheFlyingFriscos
www.theflyingfriscos.com

Love building planes almost as much as flying. Latest completed build is "Loki", a Chinook Plus 2 bush plane.


Re: Q2 Rescue Project

britmcman99
 

Robert, where are you located?  What part of what country do you live?  This is a global group. 

Phil Lankford

On Apr 14, 2022, at 12:03 PM, Robert Schmid <robert@...> wrote:

Looking for conversations with folks who are willing to share advice and pitfalls on a Q2 rescue project with me. I have built experimental planes before, I do panels, I do much of the handy work myself but I always like to listen before I embark on something like this and appreciate anyone willing to spend some time with me on the phone or video.

Thanks Robert


Re: canopy

Chris Walterson
 

Regarding the canopy spray lat removal. I didn't try vinegar or alcohol, but I did some more research and one of the RV guys mentioned that because the spray is water based, wrap it in a wet towel and keep it wet. Sometimes up to a week and the coating comes off.

 If I had an outside pool and we didn't have three feet of snow, I'd sink it to he bottom of the pool for a while, but for now it is a wet towel in the shop.  Take care------------  Chris


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