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Re: KITPLANES - September 2006 - Las Vegas Quickie

Jim, It would be great to know if the 1,325 lb number comes from structural limit testing or just plain ol' running out of aft CG. Do you fly in Normal Category above 1,100 lb? Q-talk 129 - So What Is

By Michael Dunning · #49056 ·

Re: KITPLANES - September 2006 - Las Vegas Quickie

Thanks Martin! Corbin -- Corbin N33QR

By Corbin <c_geiser@...> · #49055 ·

Re: KITPLANES - September 2006 - Las Vegas Quickie

Silicone is what we used to put them on with Corbin yes. Works well -----------------------------------------From: "Corbin via groups.io" To: main@Q-List.groups.io Cc: Sent: Monday April 13 2020

By Martin Skiby · #49054 ·

Re: KITPLANES - September 2006 - Las Vegas Quickie

Corbin, If you happen to find some rain you will be very very happy you have them. The GU canard will head to the ground if it smells water. We put on 1/2 the normal amount if it worked well, but

By Martin Skiby · #49053 ·

Re: KITPLANES - September 2006 - Las Vegas Quickie

Guess that means you have a gross volume limit, not a gross weight limit? 😊 Cheers, Jay

By Jay Scheevel · #49052 ·

Re: KITPLANES - September 2006 - Las Vegas Quickie

From experience, at least in my TriQ 200, if I can get the seat belt around you I can take off and land. That was done without anything in the luggage compartment and also down at around 1000' MSL

By Bruce Crain · #49051 ·

Re: KITPLANES - September 2006 - Las Vegas Quickie

VG highly recommended for GU losing lift on the canard is not a fun time. My you tube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCr3x6bkHUw1UUQ96ATcRFfg

By One Sky Dog · #49050 ·

Re: KITPLANES - September 2006 - Las Vegas Quickie

I have tons of VG's, the metal style also sold on Spruce. However, the white ones are appealing for a cleaner look. Hmm... Corbin -- Corbin N33QR

By Corbin <c_geiser@...> · #49049 ·

Re: KITPLANES - September 2006 - Las Vegas Quickie

Here is the page describing installing those available from Spruce. You can replace, whenever you accidentally (or intentionally) knock one off:

By Jay Scheevel · #49048 ·

Re: KITPLANES - September 2006 - Las Vegas Quickie

I believe you can get them from AC Spruce with sticky tape you just peel and put on wing. Jim N46JP Q200 Sent from Outer Space

By Jim Patillo · #49047 ·

Re: KITPLANES - September 2006 - Las Vegas Quickie

Thanks Jim. What material would be best to adhere them onto the wing? Silicone? Corbin -- Corbin N33QR

By Corbin <c_geiser@...> · #49046 ·

Re: KITPLANES - September 2006 - Las Vegas Quickie

I would 2nd what Jay is saying. I’ve flown next to your “GU plane” with and without vortex generators. Without them, I’ve seen your plane depart from straight and level flight, nose down

By Jim Patillo · #49045 ·

Re: KITPLANES - September 2006 - Las Vegas Quickie

Thanks Jay. Appreciate it. Might just do that. Corbin -- Corbin N33QR

By Corbin <c_geiser@...> · #49044 ·

Re: KITPLANES - September 2006 - Las Vegas Quickie

Hi Corbin, You will not notice the difference until you get some bugs or precipitation on the wing, then you will notice a big difference (kills a lot of lift on the canard). I would suggest

By Jay Scheevel · #49043 ·

Re: KITPLANES - September 2006 - Las Vegas Quickie

So I should put my VG's back on, huh? I have been considering doing that. I only flew once or twice without them (not at gross) and couldn't tell a difference but wasn't really paying attention

By Corbin <c_geiser@...> · #49042 ·

Re: KITPLANES - September 2006 - Las Vegas Quickie

Cylinders and rings are steel. Jim Sent from Outer Space

By Jim Patillo · #49041 ·

Re: KITPLANES - September 2006 - Las Vegas Quickie

Oh, btw the plane has an LS1 canard and typically flown from sea level 495’ msl airport. Do not try this with a GU canard! Jim N46JP

By Jim Patillo · #49040 ·

Re: KITPLANES - September 2006 - Las Vegas Quickie

Hi Jim, Did not want to mention you by name, but I figured you would pipe up. 😊 By the way, Are your cylinders chromed? Cheers, Jay

By Jay Scheevel · #49039 ·

Re: KITPLANES - September 2006 - Las Vegas Quickie

Joe, N46JP has a 740 lb. empty weight and 1325 lb. gross weight which I established during flight tests. It has an O200 that has been been pumped up from 6:7.1 to 9:4.1 with ceramic coated Lycon

By Jim Patillo · #49038 ·

Re: KITPLANES - September 2006 - Las Vegas Quickie

The general rule of thumb is 10 lb./horsepower for wing-loading similar to the Q2. The original Q2 was 1000 lb. gross with 85 horsepower engine (some would say more like 75-80 horsepower from the

By Jay Scheevel · #49037 ·

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