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Re: Sparrow strainer stall conundrum
Ok, thank you.
Very hard to believe that an airfoil in free stream would behave similarly to the same airfoil tucked closely behind another body.
I'm obviously missing something. I'll go back and
Ok, thank you.
Very hard to believe that an airfoil in free stream would behave similarly to the same airfoil tucked closely behind another body.
I'm obviously missing something. I'll go back and
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Anthony P
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#53839
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Re: Sparrow strainer stall conundrum
There I virtually no aerodynamic impact of the transition from the fixed elevator slot core to the elevator, so if that is what you mean, then no there is no effect.
Cheers,
Jay
There I virtually no aerodynamic impact of the transition from the fixed elevator slot core to the elevator, so if that is what you mean, then no there is no effect.
Cheers,
Jay
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Jay Scheevel
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#53838
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Re: Sparrow strainer stall conundrum
"Elevator Slot" = "pocket"
(pic taken from http://samhoskins.blogspot.com/search?updated-max=2014-06-18T04:55:00-07:00&max-results=20&start=27&by-date=false)
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Q2 N86KL
"Elevator Slot" = "pocket"
(pic taken from http://samhoskins.blogspot.com/search?updated-max=2014-06-18T04:55:00-07:00&max-results=20&start=27&by-date=false)
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Q2 N86KL
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Anthony P
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#53837
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Re: Sparrow strainer stall conundrum
Not sure what you mean by “pocket”??
Not sure what you mean by “pocket”??
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Jay Scheevel
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#53836
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Sparrow Strainer
Here is about the best pic I could find without going out to the airport (sore throat). If I get a chance I will go to the airport for a side view so it can bet better evaluated. This is my set up
Here is about the best pic I could find without going out to the airport (sore throat). If I get a chance I will go to the airport for a side view so it can bet better evaluated. This is my set up
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Bruce Crain
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#53835
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Re: Sparrow strainer stall conundrum
Jay, this is all very interesting.
Do your (model) numbers for the above profile include the effect of the pocket that the elevator partially occupies and the gaps to the trailing edges of the
Jay, this is all very interesting.
Do your (model) numbers for the above profile include the effect of the pocket that the elevator partially occupies and the gaps to the trailing edges of the
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Anthony P
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#53834
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Re: Sparrow strainer stall conundrum
Hi Brian,
So here is the non-engineering answer:
The solution was developed a long time ago. John Roncz solved most problems for the Long EZ canard by introducing the new airfoil (Roncz
Hi Brian,
So here is the non-engineering answer:
The solution was developed a long time ago. John Roncz solved most problems for the Long EZ canard by introducing the new airfoil (Roncz
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Jay Scheevel
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#53833
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Re: Sparrow strainer stall conundrum
We think so..but remember that aerodynamics since 1980 has itself changed quite a bit, Brian. Aerodynamics is still an evolving study. Actually Manufacturing and Structures Design is also. Internal
We think so..but remember that aerodynamics since 1980 has itself changed quite a bit, Brian. Aerodynamics is still an evolving study. Actually Manufacturing and Structures Design is also. Internal
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Frankenbird Vern
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#53832
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Re: Sparrow strainer stall conundrum
My non engineer question. Is there an efficient solution with a change to the shape of the elevator? Would seem that if there was that it would have been developed a long time ago.
Brian
My non engineer question. Is there an efficient solution with a change to the shape of the elevator? Would seem that if there was that it would have been developed a long time ago.
Brian
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Brian Larick
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#53831
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Re: Sparrow strainer stall conundrum
Thanks Michael,
I did read this after David pointed me in that direction. The problem with this approach is that the net moment arm is smaller because it is closer to the trailing edge, and the
Thanks Michael,
I did read this after David pointed me in that direction. The problem with this approach is that the net moment arm is smaller because it is closer to the trailing edge, and the
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Jay Scheevel
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#53830
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Re: Sparrow strainer stall conundrum
Jay, that RAF CP 59 that Dave listed makes some interesting points. Burt recommended fixed tabs riveted on (and 10" long, to boot) to unload the elevator trim springs; different idea but something to
Jay, that RAF CP 59 that Dave listed makes some interesting points. Burt recommended fixed tabs riveted on (and 10" long, to boot) to unload the elevator trim springs; different idea but something to
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Michael Dunning
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#53829
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Re: Tri q 200 project for sale
Sent them to your phone
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Steve S
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#53828
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Re: Tri q 200 project for sale
On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 8:25 AM, pablo barrozo
<pablobarrozo09@...> wrote:
More pics will be great. You can send them to 352 9425449. Thx.
On Wed, Feb 23, 2022, 8:22 AM Steve S via groups.io
On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 8:25 AM, pablo barrozo
<pablobarrozo09@...> wrote:
More pics will be great. You can send them to 352 9425449. Thx.
On Wed, Feb 23, 2022, 8:22 AM Steve S via groups.io
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Steve S
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#53827
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Re: Tri q 200 project for sale
On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 8:25 AM, pablo barrozo
<pablobarrozo09@...> wrote:
More pics will be great. You can send them to 352 9425449. Thx.
On Wed, Feb 23, 2022, 8:22 AM Steve S via groups.io
On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 8:25 AM, pablo barrozo
<pablobarrozo09@...> wrote:
More pics will be great. You can send them to 352 9425449. Thx.
On Wed, Feb 23, 2022, 8:22 AM Steve S via groups.io
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Steve S
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#53826
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Re: Tri q 200 project for sale
More pics will be great. You can send them to 352 9425449. Thx.
More pics will be great. You can send them to 352 9425449. Thx.
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pablo barrozo
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#53825
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Re: Tri q 200 project for sale
Not sure 4000 it's ready to have the wings on tons of parts there I couldn't load all the pictures
Not sure 4000 it's ready to have the wings on tons of parts there I couldn't load all the pictures
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Steve S
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#53824
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Re: Tri q 200 project for sale
Am local. What you looking to get out of it?
Thanks.
Paul.
Am local. What you looking to get out of it?
Thanks.
Paul.
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pablo barrozo
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#53823
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Re: Sparrow strainer stall conundrum
What I was thinking also, Brian. Either larger area as in Peter's Sparrow Strainers on his aircraft which he trimmed by flight testing until best effect..or in cleaner air below the canard. Further
What I was thinking also, Brian. Either larger area as in Peter's Sparrow Strainers on his aircraft which he trimmed by flight testing until best effect..or in cleaner air below the canard. Further
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Frankenbird Vern
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#53822
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Re: Sparrow strainer stall conundrum
Ah! Yes, so the prop blast is assisting the prevention of totally Stalled. Several aircraft use that same principal for additional lift
at lower airspeeds but at higher airspeeds I would think that
Ah! Yes, so the prop blast is assisting the prevention of totally Stalled. Several aircraft use that same principal for additional lift
at lower airspeeds but at higher airspeeds I would think that
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Frankenbird Vern
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#53821
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Re: Sparrow strainer stall conundrum
27 degrees AOA is a lot. One would think lowering the AOA of the Strainer Clark Y, thereby taking it out of a
stall condition, would increase the effective "inverted lift". Is everyone using the
27 degrees AOA is a lot. One would think lowering the AOA of the Strainer Clark Y, thereby taking it out of a
stall condition, would increase the effective "inverted lift". Is everyone using the
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Frankenbird Vern
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#53820
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