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Re: Preliminary analysis of aerodynamics of sparrow strainers (or not)
Hi Michael,
Not much time to fully absorb all the items you bring up, but let me hit a couple. Airfoil dimensions were normalized for my multifoil model representation including with the Eppler main
Hi Michael,
Not much time to fully absorb all the items you bring up, but let me hit a couple. Airfoil dimensions were normalized for my multifoil model representation including with the Eppler main
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Jay Scheevel
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#53941
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Re: Preliminary analysis of aerodynamics of sparrow strainers (or not)
David,
The comment was strictly about the tailoring of the hinge moment. The rest was a fun history tangent.
Jay,
I noted a couple concerns in the provided LS(1) airfoil after running through the
David,
The comment was strictly about the tailoring of the hinge moment. The rest was a fun history tangent.
Jay,
I noted a couple concerns in the provided LS(1) airfoil after running through the
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Michael Dunning
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#53940
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Re: Preliminary analysis of aerodynamics of sparrow strainers (or not)
Michael,
Other than the general comments about tailoring the elevator hinge moment, I fail to see the relevance of the NLF(1)-0115 or the AS504X to the Quickie line of aircraft. They suffer from the
Michael,
Other than the general comments about tailoring the elevator hinge moment, I fail to see the relevance of the NLF(1)-0115 or the AS504X to the Quickie line of aircraft. They suffer from the
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David J. Gall
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#53939
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Re: Preliminary analysis of aerodynamics of sparrow strainers (or not)
Hi Michael,
Thanks for the additional comments, data and history on the evolution of the LS-1 etc.
As far as what you are requesting, I am using 28% chord as the hinge point on the LS1
Hi Michael,
Thanks for the additional comments, data and history on the evolution of the LS-1 etc.
As far as what you are requesting, I am using 28% chord as the hinge point on the LS1
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Jay Scheevel
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#53938
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Re: Preliminary analysis of aerodynamics of sparrow strainers (or not)
Jay,
In typical engineer fashion, I don't get the chance to do this at my day job and got my references confused. Appreciate the patience while I double-checked everything....
The NLF development
Jay,
In typical engineer fashion, I don't get the chance to do this at my day job and got my references confused. Appreciate the patience while I double-checked everything....
The NLF development
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Michael Dunning
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#53937
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Re: Preliminary analysis of aerodynamics of sparrow strainers (or not)
Thanks David for your long note and discussion points. Much appreciated. I will absorb them and continue my analysis.
Michael Dunning, feel free to chime in anytime. I watched that video that you
Thanks David for your long note and discussion points. Much appreciated. I will absorb them and continue my analysis.
Michael Dunning, feel free to chime in anytime. I watched that video that you
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Jay Scheevel
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#53936
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Re: Preliminary analysis of aerodynamics of sparrow strainers (or not)
Jay,
Nice analysis. I’m heartened to see that someone else has independently concluded what I’ve been saying for years: the Roncz R1145MS airfoil is a better choice than the LS-1. The Roncz
Jay,
Nice analysis. I’m heartened to see that someone else has independently concluded what I’ve been saying for years: the Roncz R1145MS airfoil is a better choice than the LS-1. The Roncz
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David J. Gall
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#53935
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Re: Sparrow strainer stall conundrum
Hi Jay/David/Vern:
As I said before: the sparrow strainer conundrum is pure gold.
For retired aero/structural engineer types it is great fun.
Ben
Hi Jay/David/Vern:
As I said before: the sparrow strainer conundrum is pure gold.
For retired aero/structural engineer types it is great fun.
Ben
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Ben Wilson
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#53934
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Re: Sparrow strainer stall conundrum
HAHA! Thanks, David. Browsing QDF I kept wondering if it was "that" Raptor... *snort*
I avoided that "experiment" with a 20 foot pole up until watching Seguin's YT report...
Since Jay is getting
HAHA! Thanks, David. Browsing QDF I kept wondering if it was "that" Raptor... *snort*
I avoided that "experiment" with a 20 foot pole up until watching Seguin's YT report...
Since Jay is getting
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Michael Dunning
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#53933
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Re: Sparrow strainer stall conundrum
Great hints, David. Thanks.
Cheers,
Jay
Great hints, David. Thanks.
Cheers,
Jay
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Jay Scheevel
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#53932
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Re: Sparrow strainer stall conundrum
Hi Jay,
I’m glad you asked; I was concerned about the aft shape of your airfoil approaching the trailing edge. It appears that the last ~15% of your shape is convex. That’s a big no-no aft of
Hi Jay,
I’m glad you asked; I was concerned about the aft shape of your airfoil approaching the trailing edge. It appears that the last ~15% of your shape is convex. That’s a big no-no aft of
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David J. Gall
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#53931
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Re: Sparrow strainer stall conundrum
It's not in the weeds for me, Jay
We could be looking at a balancing act.
It's not in the weeds for me, Jay
We could be looking at a balancing act.
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Frankenbird Vern
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#53930
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Re: Sparrow strainer stall conundrum
Brian,
Can you make a copy or scan of those instructions for the archives? The LS(1) canard plans that I have show different dimensions.
Thank you,
David J. Gall
Brian,
Can you make a copy or scan of those instructions for the archives? The LS(1) canard plans that I have show different dimensions.
Thank you,
David J. Gall
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David J. Gall
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#53929
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Re: Sparrow strainer stall conundrum
Hi David,
Glad to hear you have your ears on the Q-list again. My redesigned LS1 elevator behaves nicely in the simple modeling software that I use (meaning it will remain in neutral trail at a
Hi David,
Glad to hear you have your ears on the Q-list again. My redesigned LS1 elevator behaves nicely in the simple modeling software that I use (meaning it will remain in neutral trail at a
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Jay Scheevel
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#53928
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Re: Sparrow strainer stall conundrum
Just playing catch up on the last two weeks of frantic Q-LIST activity….
OMG, Michael, the “Mad Rocket Scientist” (Drew) is a nice enough guy but he’s wrong fully ninety percent of the time
Just playing catch up on the last two weeks of frantic Q-LIST activity….
OMG, Michael, the “Mad Rocket Scientist” (Drew) is a nice enough guy but he’s wrong fully ninety percent of the time
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David J. Gall
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#53927
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Re: Turn radius
Hi Jon,
Don’t intend to put myself in a position where I would need to use such a beast…in my Q, anyway, I will stick with 4000’ AGL minimum radius turns, but I’m game if you want… and
Hi Jon,
Don’t intend to put myself in a position where I would need to use such a beast…in my Q, anyway, I will stick with 4000’ AGL minimum radius turns, but I’m game if you want… and
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Jay Scheevel
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#53926
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Re: Turn radius
When your ready Jay, let's talk about minimum radius canyon turns. 😉
Jon Finley
Flying an RV-4 - Truth or Consequences, NM
When your ready Jay, let's talk about minimum radius canyon turns. 😉
Jon Finley
Flying an RV-4 - Truth or Consequences, NM
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Jon Finley
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#53925
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Re: Preliminary analysis of aerodynamics of sparrow strainers (or not)
Thanks for the explanation Jay. I'm pulling like 20 lbs of back pressure just prior to stall, but at the stall the force drops to zero. That made me think that the canard is stalling. Your
Thanks for the explanation Jay. I'm pulling like 20 lbs of back pressure just prior to stall, but at the stall the force drops to zero. That made me think that the canard is stalling. Your
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Mike Dwyer
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#53924
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Re: Flight report
Looks like a beautiful morning there Charlie.
Cheers,
Jay
Looks like a beautiful morning there Charlie.
Cheers,
Jay
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Jay Scheevel
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#53923
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Re: Flight report
Nice Kevin,
Not my Dragonfly but I got my first camping air show in the log book this year!
It’s warming up nicely,Charlie
My you tube
Nice Kevin,
Not my Dragonfly but I got my first camping air show in the log book this year!
It’s warming up nicely,Charlie
My you tube
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One Sky Dog
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#53922
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