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Removable Tailcone

Paul Spackman
 

I am planning on rejoining the tailcone and was wondering if anyone
has attach the tailcone using anything different than the plans
method. Countersunk screws or what have you, I would be interested
in hearing thoughts and or seeing pictures.

Paul


Re: Removable Tailcone

britmcman99
 

Hello Paul:

I came across a Q-2 that was for sale a few years ago. It was sun damaged
and beyond my interest but I took some pictures - some of which are an
interesting tail cone attachment method. Please see photos in the Q-List files
section under "Tail Cone Hinge System Photos". Others please feel free to add
your tail cone attach system photos to this folder. I do not endorse the system
shown in the photos - for your perusal only.

Cheers,

Phil

In a message dated 1/24/2009 8:58:41 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
wypaul2001@... writes:




Thanks Sam, I've sent an email to Mike. I remember seeing Les'
setup but did not get any pictures of how it functioned.

Paul

--- In _Q-LIST@... (mailto:Q-LIST@...) , Sam
Hoskins <sam.hoskins@sam> wrote:

Get hold of Mike Bergen. He used a composite piano hinge and has
no screws
showing. Not yet flown.
And, remember the neat method that Les Hildebrand used. Here's a
photo:
_http://home.http://homhttp://homhttp://home.<Whttp_
(http://home.mchsi.com/~shoskins/modifications.html)

Sam
www.samhoskins. www.samh ww



On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Paul Spackman <wypaul2001@wyp>
wrote:

I am planning on rejoining the tailcone and was wondering if
anyone
has attach the tailcone using anything different than the plans
method. Countersunk screws or what have you, I would be
interested
in hearing thoughts and or seeing pictures.

Paul



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Re: Incidence report

Peter Harris <peterjfharris@...>
 

Thanks Pete

I am waiting on a reply from Bearcat re their utralite foam filler product
and will report back.

Peter



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From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...] On Behalf Of
Pete
Sent: Friday, 23 January 2009 7:41 PM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Incidence report



Bearcat tyres have a silicone based compound that completely fills they
tyre and retains a small (and I mean SMALL) amount of flexibility under
pressure.
The only drawback is they need to pierce the tyre opposite the valve to
allow the compound to fill it. I'm not sure how this will effect the
reliability of the tyre in an aviation application. A hole in the tyre
could conceivably lead to a separation under extreme conditions.
Cheers.
Pete.

Peter Harris wrote:


Is there some kind of run flat stuff we could pump into those tyres?

Peter


Re: Incidence report

Pete <strangedays@...>
 

Bearcat tyres have a silicone based compound that completely fills they tyre and retains a small (and I mean SMALL) amount of flexibility under pressure.
The only drawback is they need to pierce the tyre opposite the valve to allow the compound to fill it. I'm not sure how this will effect the reliability of the tyre in an aviation application. A hole in the tyre could conceivably lead to a separation under extreme conditions.
Cheers.
Pete.

Peter Harris wrote:


Is there some kind of run flat stuff we could pump into those tyres?

Peter


Re: Quickie Owners / Builders "near" Newnan GA?

kip laurie <n111kx@...>
 

Hi, Matt. I plan to be at Monroe sometime after 2PM until sunset.
You can try my cell at 404-895-0928.
Regards,
Kip

PS...I tried your email but it did not work.
 

Kolb Firestar II, N111KX
Waiex 0082, N111YX
Quickie 1, N111QX
Atlanta

--- On Thu, 1/22/09, Matt Chester <mattxb@...> wrote:

From: Matt Chester <mattxb@...>
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: Quickie Owners / Builders "near" Newnan GA?
To: Q-LIST@...
Date: Thursday, January 22, 2009, 5:04 PM






I'm sorry Mark, that was meant for Kip, I grabbed the wrong quote.

-Matt Chester

On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 6:39 PM, kip laurie <n111kx@yahoo. com> wrote:

Matt, I have an unairworthy Q1 at the Monroe airport. It has no
upholstery so it seems VERY roomy inside. You are welcome to check it out. I
hope to be out there Friday.
I met Dennis Clark a few months ago and saw his bird. If you can't find
hime shoot me an email...

Kip
Kolb Firestar II, N111KX
Waiex 0082, N111YX
Quickie 1, N111QX
Atlanta

--- On Wed, 1/21/09, matt_v01 <mattxb@gmail. com <mattxb%40gmail. com>>
wrote:

From: matt_v01 <mattxb@gmail. com <mattxb%40gmail. com>>
Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: Quickie Owners / Builders "near" Newnan GA?

To: Q-LIST@yahoogroups. com <Q-LIST%40yahoogrou ps.com>
Date: Wednesday, January 21, 2009, 2:40 PM


Thanks for the reply. I am actually looking for a Q1 though as that
is what I am planning to build. Your offer is much appreciated though.

Does anyone know of Dennis Clark's where abouts these days? In
speaking with some others from this board, his name was brought up and
the idea that I should try to contact him, as he was from Newnan at
one time.

Thanks again everyone,

Matt

--- In Q-LIST@yahoogroups. com, "Mark Keeley" <markee1@... > wrote:

I have a Q2 and am on the other side of Alabama from you.. about 250
or less to atlanta from me..
You are welcome to come and sit in mine.. I am 5'9" and am not the
most comfortable in mine..
regards,
Mark
----- Original Message -----
From: matt_v01
To: Q-LIST@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 12:34 PM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Quickie Owners / Builders "near" Newnan GA?


Hey guys, I am trying to get in contact with anyone within driving
distance (200 miles or less hopefully) of my hometown, Newnan, GA,
that owns or is building a Quickie. I have tried to contact a few
members of the QBA builders list and all emails have gotten kicked
back.

I really want to see and sit in a Q1 before I kick off my build in the
next couple of weeks. I'm 6'4" tall and weigh 185lbs. I am a little
worried that I may not fit. I know the QAC data sheets say 6'5" and
215lbs, but that may be a stretch of the imagination, I have no way of
knowing. If I can't get in touch with anyone or get to see a Q1
beforehand, I guess I should make a mock up of the fuse to test
that way.

Thanks for all the help.

Regards,
Matt Chester
Newnan, GA
7 7 0 - 9 9 0 - 8 1 6 0
mattxb at gmail.com





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Re: Incidence report

Paul Spackman
 

Jon, Check with TDS in Albuquerque for the foam job. The Wingfoot
tire center here will do it for $22.00/tire. I use Slime in my bike
tires and it does the job.

Paul

--- In Q-LIST@..., "Jon Finley" <jon@...> wrote:

I've been running Slime in my tires for the last 120 hours or so.
No
problems, no flats.
http://www.slime.com/index.php

I do like the foam idea though. I'm trying to find someone nearby
that
offers that service - no luck yet.

Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...] On
Behalf Of
Bartholomew Hanson Fisher
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 5:01 PM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Incidence report

ya the next issue is Balance at such high speed with that heavy
thick
fluid in there, the weight would also be greatly increased
meaning
when the tire is not moving more scrub at touchdown maybe weiring
to
much here but do we know of any one using this on a similar
airplane.
Bart tri Q200



Quoting Paul Buckley <paulbuckley@...>:

I use a self sealing liquid in the tyres of my lawn tractor.

They get full of thorns but never go flat, maybe just a slow
deflation over several weeks at the worst.

And I have seen the tyres of a mid size tractor, in a caravan
construction factory, literally chock full of screws and nails,
with
no leakage problem.

Paul B.


Re: Quickie Owners / Builders "near" Newnan GA?

matt_v01
 

I'm sorry Mark, that was meant for Kip, I grabbed the wrong quote.

-Matt Chester

On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 6:39 PM, kip laurie <n111kx@...> wrote:

Matt, I have an unairworthy Q1 at the Monroe airport. It has no
upholstery so it seems VERY roomy inside. You are welcome to check it out. I
hope to be out there Friday.
I met Dennis Clark a few months ago and saw his bird. If you can't find
hime shoot me an email...

Kip
Kolb Firestar II, N111KX
Waiex 0082, N111YX
Quickie 1, N111QX
Atlanta

--- On Wed, 1/21/09, matt_v01 <mattxb@... <mattxb%40gmail.com>>
wrote:

From: matt_v01 <mattxb@... <mattxb%40gmail.com>>
Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: Quickie Owners / Builders "near" Newnan GA?

To: Q-LIST@... <Q-LIST%40yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, January 21, 2009, 2:40 PM


Thanks for the reply. I am actually looking for a Q1 though as that
is what I am planning to build. Your offer is much appreciated though.

Does anyone know of Dennis Clark's where abouts these days? In
speaking with some others from this board, his name was brought up and
the idea that I should try to contact him, as he was from Newnan at
one time.

Thanks again everyone,

Matt

--- In Q-LIST@yahoogroups. com, "Mark Keeley" <markee1@... > wrote:

I have a Q2 and am on the other side of Alabama from you.. about 250
or less to atlanta from me..
You are welcome to come and sit in mine.. I am 5'9" and am not the
most comfortable in mine..
regards,
Mark
----- Original Message -----
From: matt_v01
To: Q-LIST@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 12:34 PM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Quickie Owners / Builders "near" Newnan GA?


Hey guys, I am trying to get in contact with anyone within driving
distance (200 miles or less hopefully) of my hometown, Newnan, GA,
that owns or is building a Quickie. I have tried to contact a few
members of the QBA builders list and all emails have gotten kicked
back.

I really want to see and sit in a Q1 before I kick off my build in the
next couple of weeks. I'm 6'4" tall and weigh 185lbs. I am a little
worried that I may not fit. I know the QAC data sheets say 6'5" and
215lbs, but that may be a stretch of the imagination, I have no way of
knowing. If I can't get in touch with anyone or get to see a Q1
beforehand, I guess I should make a mock up of the fuse to test
that way.

Thanks for all the help.

Regards,
Matt Chester
Newnan, GA
7 7 0 - 9 9 0 - 8 1 6 0
mattxb at gmail.com










Re: Quickie Owners / Builders "near" Newnan GA?

matt_v01
 

Mark,

I sent you an email off site. But just in case the email address I used was
not current, I posted here as well. Please give me a call so that I can
meet up with you tomorrow, if it's still good with you.

Regards,
Matt Chester

On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 10:23 PM, Mark A. Pearson
<wlkabout@...>wrote:

Matt:
I would be glad to let you sit in my Q1 project and make airplane noises.
Being outside Carbondale, IL, however, is a little more than your 200 mile
limit.
My project is currently "buried" in my garage and upside down, but with a
little notice your visit could be a great motivator to at least look at her
again. Added bonus is that Sam Hoskins is close by and you could look at his
Q200 I am sure.

Mark Pearson
SSN 229

----- Original Message -----
From: matt_v01
To: Q-LIST@... <Q-LIST%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 4:40 PM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: Quickie Owners / Builders "near" Newnan GA?

Thanks for the reply. I am actually looking for a Q1 though as that
is what I am planning to build. Your offer is much appreciated though.

Does anyone know of Dennis Clark's where abouts these days? In
speaking with some others from this board, his name was brought up and
the idea that I should try to contact him, as he was from Newnan at
one time.

Thanks again everyone,

Matt

--- In Q-LIST@... <Q-LIST%40yahoogroups.com>, "Mark Keeley"
<markee1@...> wrote:

I have a Q2 and am on the other side of Alabama from you.. about 250
or less to atlanta from me..
You are welcome to come and sit in mine.. I am 5'9" and am not the
most comfortable in mine..
regards,
Mark
----- Original Message -----
From: matt_v01
To: Q-LIST@... <Q-LIST%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 12:34 PM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Quickie Owners / Builders "near" Newnan GA?


Hey guys, I am trying to get in contact with anyone within driving
distance (200 miles or less hopefully) of my hometown, Newnan, GA,
that owns or is building a Quickie. I have tried to contact a few
members of the QBA builders list and all emails have gotten kicked
back.

I really want to see and sit in a Q1 before I kick off my build in the
next couple of weeks. I'm 6'4" tall and weigh 185lbs. I am a little
worried that I may not fit. I know the QAC data sheets say 6'5" and
215lbs, but that may be a stretch of the imagination, I have no way of
knowing. If I can't get in touch with anyone or get to see a Q1
beforehand, I guess I should make a mock up of the fuse to test
that way.

Thanks for all the help.

Regards,
Matt Chester
Newnan, GA
7 7 0 - 9 9 0 - 8 1 6 0
mattxb at gmail.com










Re: Incidence report

Mark Keeley <markee1@...>
 

a good place to look for the foam tire filling would be a tire facility that works on farm tires as they often fill them and most of you seem to be farmers.. heh heh
Mark Keeley

----- Original Message -----
From: Jon Finley
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 6:12 PM
Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] Incidence report


I've been running Slime in my tires for the last 120 hours or so. No
problems, no flats.
http://www.slime.com/index.php

I do like the foam idea though. I'm trying to find someone nearby that
offers that service - no luck yet.

Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...] On Behalf Of
Bartholomew Hanson Fisher
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 5:01 PM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Incidence report

ya the next issue is Balance at such high speed with that heavy thick
fluid in there, the weight would also be greatly increased meaning
when the tire is not moving more scrub at touchdown maybe weiring to
much here but do we know of any one using this on a similar airplane.
Bart tri Q200

Quoting Paul Buckley <paulbuckley@...>:

> I use a self sealing liquid in the tyres of my lawn tractor.
>
> They get full of thorns but never go flat, maybe just a slow
> deflation over several weeks at the worst.
>
> And I have seen the tyres of a mid size tractor, in a caravan
> construction factory, literally chock full of screws and nails, with
> no leakage problem.
>
> Paul B.


Arnco The Tire Flatproofing Experts

Peter Harris <peterjfharris@...>
 

Here is a link to the full range of Arnco foam tire fillers, including the
light weight version which seems to suit our application.(click on tire
flatproofing)
I am still looking for where to buy and how to use. Anyone?
Cheers
Peter.
http://www.arnconet.com/


Re: Incidence report

Jon Finley <jon@...>
 

Very sorry to hear about this Paul. I had a flat in my Q1 once so can
appreciate the feeling you had - except without the toothpicks flying and
tail flopping down parts... ;-)

As has already been said, the plane is fixable - glad you were unscathed!

While doing the Six-Pack, you should add a second tire to each side for
redundancy!! :-)

Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...] On Behalf Of
Paul Spackman
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 8:33 PM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: [Q-LIST] Incidence report

I know that some you have picked up on the FAA report so here is the
lowdown.

Saturday I was out burning some avgas so I could buy the new cheaper
stuff that is around now. A small airport that has cheap fuel
about 100 miles from home was close at hand so down I went. Wind
was 25-30 down the runway and touch down a none event. After about
500 ft the plane started pulling hard to the left, thinking that the
wind had made a big shift to the left I applied right brake to keep
it on the centerline. When that was only partially effective I
added power and then things got really interesting. The plane nosed
up and I watched in disbelief as the runway turned my prop to
splinters. I killed the throttle and quicker than a Quickie wham,
down on the tail with an extra pop. Tailspring gone. And that
quick it was over. The wind was still down the runway!!!! flat tire
on the left had caused all that fun.

Sunday I took a trailer and a jigsaw, cut the tailcone off, loaded
it (the Plane) on a trailer and brought it home. I have been
thinking about cutting the tailcone for easier maintenance so that's
done now and I have been thinking about the West Coast tailwheel mod
so nows the time for that. Parts are ordered and work begins this
weekend.

I've posted a picture under "On Trailer"

Paul


Re: Incidence report

Jon Finley <jon@...>
 

I've been running Slime in my tires for the last 120 hours or so. No
problems, no flats.
http://www.slime.com/index.php

I do like the foam idea though. I'm trying to find someone nearby that
offers that service - no luck yet.

Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...] On Behalf Of
Bartholomew Hanson Fisher
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 5:01 PM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Incidence report

ya the next issue is Balance at such high speed with that heavy thick
fluid in there, the weight would also be greatly increased meaning
when the tire is not moving more scrub at touchdown maybe weiring to
much here but do we know of any one using this on a similar airplane.
Bart tri Q200



Quoting Paul Buckley <paulbuckley@...>:

I use a self sealing liquid in the tyres of my lawn tractor.

They get full of thorns but never go flat, maybe just a slow
deflation over several weeks at the worst.

And I have seen the tyres of a mid size tractor, in a caravan
construction factory, literally chock full of screws and nails, with
no leakage problem.

Paul B.


Re: Incidence report

Bartholomew Hanson Fisher
 

ya the next issue is Balance at such high speed with that heavy thick
fluid in there, the weight would also be greatly increased meaning
when the tire is not moving more scrub at touchdown maybe weiring to
much here but do we know of any one using this on a similar airplane.
Bart tri Q200



Quoting Paul Buckley <paulbuckley@...>:

I use a self sealing liquid in the tyres of my lawn tractor.

They get full of thorns but never go flat, maybe just a slow
deflation over several weeks at the worst.

And I have seen the tyres of a mid size tractor, in a caravan
construction factory, literally chock full of screws and nails, with
no leakage problem.

Paul B.


----- Original Message -----
From: Peter Harris
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 9:47 PM
Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] Incidence report


Is there some kind of run flat stuff we could pump into those tyres?

Peter

_____

From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...] On Behalf Of
Sam Hoskins
Sent: Thursday, 22 January 2009 10:37 PM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Incidence report

Sorry to hear all that, Paul. Glad you're okay. If you remember, Dick
Shapley totaled his Q-200 on the way to Oshkosh. He, too, had a flat tire.
He also hit another parked plane, I think it was a Stinson.

You have had a sudden engine stoppage and most manufacturers recommend a
complete engine tear down. I had a prop strike and the visual damage didn't
seem all that bad. A dial indicator check showed there was some wobble at
the crankshaft flange. After dissasembly, a magnaflux check revealed a
crack right where the crank transitions to the flange.

Here is the link to the Continental service bulletin, regarding sudden
engine stoppage: http://www.tcmlink.
<http://www.tcmlink.com/pdf2/SB96-11B.pdf> com/pdf2/SB96-11B.pdf Remember,
it
wasn't just the prop and crank (and tailcone) that suffered. All rotating
parts experienced the same thing.

Good luck in your repair.

How did you get away with not having a tail that comes off, anyway?

Sam Hoskins
Murphysboro, IL
www.samhoskins.blogspot.com

On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 9:33 PM, Paul Spackman <wypaul2001@yahoo.
<mailto:wypaul2001%40yahoo.com> com> wrote:

I know that some you have picked up on the FAA report so here is the
lowdown.

Saturday I was out burning some avgas so I could buy the new cheaper
stuff that is around now. A small airport that has cheap fuel
about 100 miles from home was close at hand so down I went. Wind
was 25-30 down the runway and touch down a none event. After about
500 ft the plane started pulling hard to the left, thinking that the
wind had made a big shift to the left I applied right brake to keep
it on the centerline. When that was only partially effective I
added power and then things got really interesting. The plane nosed
up and I watched in disbelief as the runway turned my prop to
splinters. I killed the throttle and quicker than a Quickie wham,
down on the tail with an extra pop. Tailspring gone. And that
quick it was over. The wind was still down the runway!!!! flat tire
on the left had caused all that fun.

Sunday I took a trailer and a jigsaw, cut the tailcone off, loaded
it (the Plane) on a trailer and brought it home. I have been
thinking about cutting the tailcone for easier maintenance so that's
done now and I have been thinking about the West Coast tailwheel mod
so nows the time for that. Parts are ordered and work begins this
weekend.

I've posted a picture under "On Trailer"

Paul


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Re: Incidence report

Paul Buckley
 

I use a self sealing liquid in the tyres of my lawn tractor.

They get full of thorns but never go flat, maybe just a slow deflation over several weeks at the worst.

And I have seen the tyres of a mid size tractor, in a caravan construction factory, literally chock full of screws and nails, with no leakage problem.

Paul B.

----- Original Message -----
From: Peter Harris
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 9:47 PM
Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] Incidence report


Is there some kind of run flat stuff we could pump into those tyres?

Peter

_____

From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...] On Behalf Of
Sam Hoskins
Sent: Thursday, 22 January 2009 10:37 PM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Incidence report

Sorry to hear all that, Paul. Glad you're okay. If you remember, Dick
Shapley totaled his Q-200 on the way to Oshkosh. He, too, had a flat tire.
He also hit another parked plane, I think it was a Stinson.

You have had a sudden engine stoppage and most manufacturers recommend a
complete engine tear down. I had a prop strike and the visual damage didn't
seem all that bad. A dial indicator check showed there was some wobble at
the crankshaft flange. After dissasembly, a magnaflux check revealed a
crack right where the crank transitions to the flange.

Here is the link to the Continental service bulletin, regarding sudden
engine stoppage: http://www.tcmlink.
<http://www.tcmlink.com/pdf2/SB96-11B.pdf> com/pdf2/SB96-11B.pdf Remember,
it
wasn't just the prop and crank (and tailcone) that suffered. All rotating
parts experienced the same thing.

Good luck in your repair.

How did you get away with not having a tail that comes off, anyway?

Sam Hoskins
Murphysboro, IL
www.samhoskins.blogspot.com

On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 9:33 PM, Paul Spackman <wypaul2001@yahoo.
<mailto:wypaul2001%40yahoo.com> com> wrote:

> I know that some you have picked up on the FAA report so here is the
> lowdown.
>
> Saturday I was out burning some avgas so I could buy the new cheaper
> stuff that is around now. A small airport that has cheap fuel
> about 100 miles from home was close at hand so down I went. Wind
> was 25-30 down the runway and touch down a none event. After about
> 500 ft the plane started pulling hard to the left, thinking that the
> wind had made a big shift to the left I applied right brake to keep
> it on the centerline. When that was only partially effective I
> added power and then things got really interesting. The plane nosed
> up and I watched in disbelief as the runway turned my prop to
> splinters. I killed the throttle and quicker than a Quickie wham,
> down on the tail with an extra pop. Tailspring gone. And that
> quick it was over. The wind was still down the runway!!!! flat tire
> on the left had caused all that fun.
>
> Sunday I took a trailer and a jigsaw, cut the tailcone off, loaded
> it (the Plane) on a trailer and brought it home. I have been
> thinking about cutting the tailcone for easier maintenance so that's
> done now and I have been thinking about the West Coast tailwheel mod
> so nows the time for that. Parts are ordered and work begins this
> weekend.
>
> I've posted a picture under "On Trailer"
>
> Paul
>
>
>










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Foam Fill - Service Tire Truck Center

Peter Harris <peterjfharris@...>
 

Here is the link to STTC tyre filling products that seem to do the job. Not
sure how available it is or how to use it.
Peter


http://www.sttc.com/services_autofill.php


Arnco's UltraLite Foam Fill

Peter Harris <peterjfharris@...>
 

Here is a link to Arnco which offers a lightweight foam for flatproofing
tires. Sold by Service Tire Truck Centres based in Bethlehem PA 18017
I looks like good stuff. Can any of you guys find out some more ie how to
buy and how to use it?
Regards
Peter

http://www.arnconet.com/flatproofing/ultralite.htm


Re: Incidence report

Bartholomew Hanson Fisher
 

I think that a great idea to look in to Maybe foam or some other product
These dam birds just touch down so fast it is a none issue in more
conventional air planes? Bart Fisher tri Q200

Quoting Peter Harris <peterjfharris@...>:

Is there some kind of run flat stuff we could pump into those tyres?

Peter



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From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...] On Behalf Of
Sam Hoskins
Sent: Thursday, 22 January 2009 10:37 PM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Incidence report



Sorry to hear all that, Paul. Glad you're okay. If you remember, Dick
Shapley totaled his Q-200 on the way to Oshkosh. He, too, had a flat tire.
He also hit another parked plane, I think it was a Stinson.

You have had a sudden engine stoppage and most manufacturers recommend a
complete engine tear down. I had a prop strike and the visual damage didn't
seem all that bad. A dial indicator check showed there was some wobble at
the crankshaft flange. After dissasembly, a magnaflux check revealed a
crack right where the crank transitions to the flange.

Here is the link to the Continental service bulletin, regarding sudden
engine stoppage: http://www.tcmlink.
<http://www.tcmlink.com/pdf2/SB96-11B.pdf> com/pdf2/SB96-11B.pdf Remember,
it
wasn't just the prop and crank (and tailcone) that suffered. All rotating
parts experienced the same thing.

Good luck in your repair.

How did you get away with not having a tail that comes off, anyway?

Sam Hoskins
Murphysboro, IL
www.samhoskins.blogspot.com

On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 9:33 PM, Paul Spackman <wypaul2001@yahoo.
<mailto:wypaul2001%40yahoo.com> com> wrote:

I know that some you have picked up on the FAA report so here is the
lowdown.

Saturday I was out burning some avgas so I could buy the new cheaper
stuff that is around now. A small airport that has cheap fuel
about 100 miles from home was close at hand so down I went. Wind
was 25-30 down the runway and touch down a none event. After about
500 ft the plane started pulling hard to the left, thinking that the
wind had made a big shift to the left I applied right brake to keep
it on the centerline. When that was only partially effective I
added power and then things got really interesting. The plane nosed
up and I watched in disbelief as the runway turned my prop to
splinters. I killed the throttle and quicker than a Quickie wham,
down on the tail with an extra pop. Tailspring gone. And that
quick it was over. The wind was still down the runway!!!! flat tire
on the left had caused all that fun.

Sunday I took a trailer and a jigsaw, cut the tailcone off, loaded
it (the Plane) on a trailer and brought it home. I have been
thinking about cutting the tailcone for easier maintenance so that's
done now and I have been thinking about the West Coast tailwheel mod
so nows the time for that. Parts are ordered and work begins this
weekend.

I've posted a picture under "On Trailer"

Paul


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Re: Incidence report (REPLY)

Paul Spackman
 

Thanks everyone. Sam I have the crank check on the to do list for
tomorrow. The engine was still running so I am hopeful, that Jabiru
people say they have not seen a crank problem with strikes so far but
time will tell.

Paul


Re: Incidence report

Peter Harris <peterjfharris@...>
 

Is there some kind of run flat stuff we could pump into those tyres?

Peter



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From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...] On Behalf Of
Sam Hoskins
Sent: Thursday, 22 January 2009 10:37 PM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Incidence report



Sorry to hear all that, Paul. Glad you're okay. If you remember, Dick
Shapley totaled his Q-200 on the way to Oshkosh. He, too, had a flat tire.
He also hit another parked plane, I think it was a Stinson.

You have had a sudden engine stoppage and most manufacturers recommend a
complete engine tear down. I had a prop strike and the visual damage didn't
seem all that bad. A dial indicator check showed there was some wobble at
the crankshaft flange. After dissasembly, a magnaflux check revealed a
crack right where the crank transitions to the flange.

Here is the link to the Continental service bulletin, regarding sudden
engine stoppage: http://www.tcmlink.
<http://www.tcmlink.com/pdf2/SB96-11B.pdf> com/pdf2/SB96-11B.pdf Remember,
it
wasn't just the prop and crank (and tailcone) that suffered. All rotating
parts experienced the same thing.

Good luck in your repair.

How did you get away with not having a tail that comes off, anyway?

Sam Hoskins
Murphysboro, IL
www.samhoskins.blogspot.com

On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 9:33 PM, Paul Spackman <wypaul2001@yahoo.
<mailto:wypaul2001%40yahoo.com> com> wrote:

I know that some you have picked up on the FAA report so here is the
lowdown.

Saturday I was out burning some avgas so I could buy the new cheaper
stuff that is around now. A small airport that has cheap fuel
about 100 miles from home was close at hand so down I went. Wind
was 25-30 down the runway and touch down a none event. After about
500 ft the plane started pulling hard to the left, thinking that the
wind had made a big shift to the left I applied right brake to keep
it on the centerline. When that was only partially effective I
added power and then things got really interesting. The plane nosed
up and I watched in disbelief as the runway turned my prop to
splinters. I killed the throttle and quicker than a Quickie wham,
down on the tail with an extra pop. Tailspring gone. And that
quick it was over. The wind was still down the runway!!!! flat tire
on the left had caused all that fun.

Sunday I took a trailer and a jigsaw, cut the tailcone off, loaded
it (the Plane) on a trailer and brought it home. I have been
thinking about cutting the tailcone for easier maintenance so that's
done now and I have been thinking about the West Coast tailwheel mod
so nows the time for that. Parts are ordered and work begins this
weekend.

I've posted a picture under "On Trailer"

Paul



EAA's Experimenter, back again!

Patrick Panzera <panzera@...>
 

Hey Gang!

In an effort to put the E back into EAA, a new offering was just
released.

EXPERIMENTER has been resurrected in electronic format!

http://eaa.org/experimenter/issues/0901.html


The goal here is to bring back the hard-core, hands-on experimental
aviation that we all miss. There won't be stories about $20k paint
jobs, $75k certified engines, full leather interiors and all those
hired-gun aircraft that we've all grown tired of seeing in print.

One-of-a-kind projects, plans-built, modifications, improvements,
successes and failures, all the stuff we need to see in print to
fulfill the LEARN aspect of the "Learn, Build, Fly" mantra of the
past.

Paul P is taking an active role in this as he's always been a hard-
core advocate of grass-roots experimental aviation.

So I encourage each and every one of you reading this to click the
link above and see the effort being made. Read through the entire
work and PLEASE respond to the survey at the bottom of the page. I
GUARANTEE you that all eyes and ears are on this effort and your
comments WILL be read and learned from by the editorial staff at EAA.
You will not be wasting your time.

And PLEASE pass this note along to every e-mail group you belong to
and everyone in your address book who might be even remotely
interested.

This is the best chance we've had in like, forever, to be honestly
heard by EAA. A lot of work went into the first issue and they need
to know if they are on the right track or not. I believe that your
comments could potentially reshape all the EAA publications in the
future.

Thank you!!!

Sincerely,

Patrick Panzera.
Editor@...


I apologize if you got this more than once, it just means that you
and I are on the same multiple e-mail groups.