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Removable Tailcone
Paul Spackman
I am planning on rejoining the tailcone and was wondering if anyone
has attach the tailcone using anything different than the plans method. Countersunk screws or what have you, I would be interested in hearing thoughts and or seeing pictures. Paul
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Re: Removable Tailcone
Hello Paul:
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I came across a Q-2 that was for sale a few years ago. It was sun damaged and beyond my interest but I took some pictures - some of which are an interesting tail cone attachment method. Please see photos in the Q-List files section under "Tail Cone Hinge System Photos". Others please feel free to add your tail cone attach system photos to this folder. I do not endorse the system shown in the photos - for your perusal only. Cheers, Phil
In a message dated 1/24/2009 8:58:41 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
wypaul2001@... writes: Thanks Sam, I've sent an email to Mike. I remember seeing Les' setup but did not get any pictures of how it functioned. Paul --- In _Q-LIST@... (mailto:Q-LIST@...) , Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@sam> wrote: no screws showing. Not yet flown.photo: _http://home.http://homhttp://homhttp://home.<Whttp_(http://home.mchsi.com/~shoskins/modifications.html) wrote: anyoneI am planning on rejoining the tailcone and was wondering if interestedhas attach the tailcone using anything different than the plans in hearing thoughts and or seeing pictures. **************Know Your Numbers: Get tips and tools to help you improve your credit score. (http://www.walletpop.com/credit/credit-reports?ncid=emlcntuswall00000002)
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Re: Incidence report
Peter Harris <peterjfharris@...>
Thanks Pete
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I am waiting on a reply from Bearcat re their utralite foam filler product and will report back. Peter _____ From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...] On Behalf Of Pete Sent: Friday, 23 January 2009 7:41 PM To: Q-LIST@... Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Incidence report Bearcat tyres have a silicone based compound that completely fills they tyre and retains a small (and I mean SMALL) amount of flexibility under pressure. The only drawback is they need to pierce the tyre opposite the valve to allow the compound to fill it. I'm not sure how this will effect the reliability of the tyre in an aviation application. A hole in the tyre could conceivably lead to a separation under extreme conditions. Cheers. Pete. Peter Harris wrote:
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Re: Incidence report
Pete <strangedays@...>
Bearcat tyres have a silicone based compound that completely fills they tyre and retains a small (and I mean SMALL) amount of flexibility under pressure.
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The only drawback is they need to pierce the tyre opposite the valve to allow the compound to fill it. I'm not sure how this will effect the reliability of the tyre in an aviation application. A hole in the tyre could conceivably lead to a separation under extreme conditions. Cheers. Pete. Peter Harris wrote:
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Re: Quickie Owners / Builders "near" Newnan GA?
kip laurie <n111kx@...>
Hi, Matt. I plan to be at Monroe sometime after 2PM until sunset.
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You can try my cell at 404-895-0928. Regards, Kip PS...I tried your email but it did not work. Â Kolb Firestar II, N111KX Waiex 0082, N111YX Quickie 1, N111QX Atlanta
--- On Thu, 1/22/09, Matt Chester <mattxb@...> wrote:
From: Matt Chester <mattxb@...> Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: Quickie Owners / Builders "near" Newnan GA? To: Q-LIST@... Date: Thursday, January 22, 2009, 5:04 PM I'm sorry Mark, that was meant for Kip, I grabbed the wrong quote. -Matt Chester On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 6:39 PM, kip laurie <n111kx@yahoo. com> wrote: Matt, I have an unairworthy Q1 at the Monroe airport. It has no[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: Incidence report
Paul Spackman
Jon, Check with TDS in Albuquerque for the foam job. The Wingfoot
tire center here will do it for $22.00/tire. I use Slime in my bike tires and it does the job. Paul --- In Q-LIST@..., "Jon Finley" <jon@...> wrote: No problems, no flats.that offers that service - no luck yet.Behalf Of Bartholomew Hanson Fisherthick fluid in there, the weight would also be greatly increasedmeaning when the tire is not moving more scrub at touchdown maybe weiringto much here but do we know of any one using this on a similarairplane. Bart tri Q200with no leakage problem.
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Re: Quickie Owners / Builders "near" Newnan GA?
matt_v01
I'm sorry Mark, that was meant for Kip, I grabbed the wrong quote.
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-Matt Chester
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 6:39 PM, kip laurie <n111kx@...> wrote:
Matt, I have an unairworthy Q1 at the Monroe airport. It has no
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Re: Quickie Owners / Builders "near" Newnan GA?
matt_v01
Mark,
I sent you an email off site. But just in case the email address I used was not current, I posted here as well. Please give me a call so that I can meet up with you tomorrow, if it's still good with you. Regards, Matt Chester On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 10:23 PM, Mark A. Pearson <wlkabout@...>wrote: Matt:
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Re: Incidence report
Mark Keeley <markee1@...>
a good place to look for the foam tire filling would be a tire facility that works on farm tires as they often fill them and most of you seem to be farmers.. heh heh
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From: Jon Finley To: Q-LIST@... Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 6:12 PM Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] Incidence report I've been running Slime in my tires for the last 120 hours or so. No problems, no flats. http://www.slime.com/index.php I do like the foam idea though. I'm trying to find someone nearby that offers that service - no luck yet. Jon -----Original Message----- From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...] On Behalf Of Bartholomew Hanson Fisher Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 5:01 PM To: Q-LIST@... Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Incidence report ya the next issue is Balance at such high speed with that heavy thick fluid in there, the weight would also be greatly increased meaning when the tire is not moving more scrub at touchdown maybe weiring to much here but do we know of any one using this on a similar airplane. Bart tri Q200 Quoting Paul Buckley <paulbuckley@...>: > I use a self sealing liquid in the tyres of my lawn tractor. > > They get full of thorns but never go flat, maybe just a slow > deflation over several weeks at the worst. > > And I have seen the tyres of a mid size tractor, in a caravan > construction factory, literally chock full of screws and nails, with > no leakage problem. > > Paul B.
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Arnco The Tire Flatproofing Experts
Peter Harris <peterjfharris@...>
Here is a link to the full range of Arnco foam tire fillers, including the
light weight version which seems to suit our application.(click on tire flatproofing) I am still looking for where to buy and how to use. Anyone? Cheers Peter. http://www.arnconet.com/
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Re: Incidence report
Jon Finley <jon@...>
Very sorry to hear about this Paul. I had a flat in my Q1 once so can
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appreciate the feeling you had - except without the toothpicks flying and tail flopping down parts... ;-) As has already been said, the plane is fixable - glad you were unscathed! While doing the Six-Pack, you should add a second tire to each side for redundancy!! :-) Jon
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From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...] On Behalf Of Paul Spackman Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 8:33 PM To: Q-LIST@... Subject: [Q-LIST] Incidence report I know that some you have picked up on the FAA report so here is the lowdown. Saturday I was out burning some avgas so I could buy the new cheaper stuff that is around now. A small airport that has cheap fuel about 100 miles from home was close at hand so down I went. Wind was 25-30 down the runway and touch down a none event. After about 500 ft the plane started pulling hard to the left, thinking that the wind had made a big shift to the left I applied right brake to keep it on the centerline. When that was only partially effective I added power and then things got really interesting. The plane nosed up and I watched in disbelief as the runway turned my prop to splinters. I killed the throttle and quicker than a Quickie wham, down on the tail with an extra pop. Tailspring gone. And that quick it was over. The wind was still down the runway!!!! flat tire on the left had caused all that fun. Sunday I took a trailer and a jigsaw, cut the tailcone off, loaded it (the Plane) on a trailer and brought it home. I have been thinking about cutting the tailcone for easier maintenance so that's done now and I have been thinking about the West Coast tailwheel mod so nows the time for that. Parts are ordered and work begins this weekend. I've posted a picture under "On Trailer" Paul
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Re: Incidence report
Jon Finley <jon@...>
I've been running Slime in my tires for the last 120 hours or so. No
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problems, no flats. http://www.slime.com/index.php I do like the foam idea though. I'm trying to find someone nearby that offers that service - no luck yet. Jon
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From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...] On Behalf Of Bartholomew Hanson Fisher Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 5:01 PM To: Q-LIST@... Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Incidence report ya the next issue is Balance at such high speed with that heavy thick fluid in there, the weight would also be greatly increased meaning when the tire is not moving more scrub at touchdown maybe weiring to much here but do we know of any one using this on a similar airplane. Bart tri Q200 Quoting Paul Buckley <paulbuckley@...>: I use a self sealing liquid in the tyres of my lawn tractor.
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Re: Incidence report
Bartholomew Hanson Fisher
ya the next issue is Balance at such high speed with that heavy thick
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fluid in there, the weight would also be greatly increased meaning when the tire is not moving more scrub at touchdown maybe weiring to much here but do we know of any one using this on a similar airplane. Bart tri Q200 Quoting Paul Buckley <paulbuckley@...>:
I use a self sealing liquid in the tyres of my lawn tractor.
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Re: Incidence report
Paul Buckley
I use a self sealing liquid in the tyres of my lawn tractor.
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They get full of thorns but never go flat, maybe just a slow deflation over several weeks at the worst. And I have seen the tyres of a mid size tractor, in a caravan construction factory, literally chock full of screws and nails, with no leakage problem. Paul B.
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From: Peter Harris To: Q-LIST@... Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 9:47 PM Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] Incidence report Is there some kind of run flat stuff we could pump into those tyres? Peter _____ From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...] On Behalf Of Sam Hoskins Sent: Thursday, 22 January 2009 10:37 PM To: Q-LIST@... Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Incidence report Sorry to hear all that, Paul. Glad you're okay. If you remember, Dick Shapley totaled his Q-200 on the way to Oshkosh. He, too, had a flat tire. He also hit another parked plane, I think it was a Stinson. You have had a sudden engine stoppage and most manufacturers recommend a complete engine tear down. I had a prop strike and the visual damage didn't seem all that bad. A dial indicator check showed there was some wobble at the crankshaft flange. After dissasembly, a magnaflux check revealed a crack right where the crank transitions to the flange. Here is the link to the Continental service bulletin, regarding sudden engine stoppage: http://www.tcmlink. <http://www.tcmlink.com/pdf2/SB96-11B.pdf> com/pdf2/SB96-11B.pdf Remember, it wasn't just the prop and crank (and tailcone) that suffered. All rotating parts experienced the same thing. Good luck in your repair. How did you get away with not having a tail that comes off, anyway? Sam Hoskins Murphysboro, IL www.samhoskins.blogspot.com On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 9:33 PM, Paul Spackman <wypaul2001@yahoo. <mailto:wypaul2001%40yahoo.com> com> wrote: > I know that some you have picked up on the FAA report so here is the > lowdown. > > Saturday I was out burning some avgas so I could buy the new cheaper > stuff that is around now. A small airport that has cheap fuel > about 100 miles from home was close at hand so down I went. Wind > was 25-30 down the runway and touch down a none event. After about > 500 ft the plane started pulling hard to the left, thinking that the > wind had made a big shift to the left I applied right brake to keep > it on the centerline. When that was only partially effective I > added power and then things got really interesting. The plane nosed > up and I watched in disbelief as the runway turned my prop to > splinters. I killed the throttle and quicker than a Quickie wham, > down on the tail with an extra pop. Tailspring gone. And that > quick it was over. The wind was still down the runway!!!! flat tire > on the left had caused all that fun. > > Sunday I took a trailer and a jigsaw, cut the tailcone off, loaded > it (the Plane) on a trailer and brought it home. I have been > thinking about cutting the tailcone for easier maintenance so that's > done now and I have been thinking about the West Coast tailwheel mod > so nows the time for that. Parts are ordered and work begins this > weekend. > > I've posted a picture under "On Trailer" > > Paul > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.12/1908 - Release Date: 1/21/2009 9:15 PM
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Foam Fill - Service Tire Truck Center
Peter Harris <peterjfharris@...>
Here is the link to STTC tyre filling products that seem to do the job. Not
sure how available it is or how to use it. Peter http://www.sttc.com/services_autofill.php
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Arnco's UltraLite Foam Fill
Peter Harris <peterjfharris@...>
Here is a link to Arnco which offers a lightweight foam for flatproofing
tires. Sold by Service Tire Truck Centres based in Bethlehem PA 18017 I looks like good stuff. Can any of you guys find out some more ie how to buy and how to use it? Regards Peter http://www.arnconet.com/flatproofing/ultralite.htm
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Re: Incidence report
Bartholomew Hanson Fisher
I think that a great idea to look in to Maybe foam or some other product
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These dam birds just touch down so fast it is a none issue in more conventional air planes? Bart Fisher tri Q200 Quoting Peter Harris <peterjfharris@...>:
Is there some kind of run flat stuff we could pump into those tyres?
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Re: Incidence report (REPLY)
Paul Spackman
Thanks everyone. Sam I have the crank check on the to do list for
tomorrow. The engine was still running so I am hopeful, that Jabiru people say they have not seen a crank problem with strikes so far but time will tell. Paul
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Re: Incidence report
Peter Harris <peterjfharris@...>
Is there some kind of run flat stuff we could pump into those tyres?
Peter _____ From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...] On Behalf Of Sam Hoskins Sent: Thursday, 22 January 2009 10:37 PM To: Q-LIST@... Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Incidence report Sorry to hear all that, Paul. Glad you're okay. If you remember, Dick Shapley totaled his Q-200 on the way to Oshkosh. He, too, had a flat tire. He also hit another parked plane, I think it was a Stinson. You have had a sudden engine stoppage and most manufacturers recommend a complete engine tear down. I had a prop strike and the visual damage didn't seem all that bad. A dial indicator check showed there was some wobble at the crankshaft flange. After dissasembly, a magnaflux check revealed a crack right where the crank transitions to the flange. Here is the link to the Continental service bulletin, regarding sudden engine stoppage: http://www.tcmlink. <http://www.tcmlink.com/pdf2/SB96-11B.pdf> com/pdf2/SB96-11B.pdf Remember, it wasn't just the prop and crank (and tailcone) that suffered. All rotating parts experienced the same thing. Good luck in your repair. How did you get away with not having a tail that comes off, anyway? Sam Hoskins Murphysboro, IL www.samhoskins.blogspot.com On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 9:33 PM, Paul Spackman <wypaul2001@yahoo. <mailto:wypaul2001%40yahoo.com> com> wrote: I know that some you have picked up on the FAA report so here is the
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EAA's Experimenter, back again!
Patrick Panzera <panzera@...>
Hey Gang!
In an effort to put the E back into EAA, a new offering was just released. EXPERIMENTER has been resurrected in electronic format! http://eaa.org/experimenter/issues/0901.html The goal here is to bring back the hard-core, hands-on experimental aviation that we all miss. There won't be stories about $20k paint jobs, $75k certified engines, full leather interiors and all those hired-gun aircraft that we've all grown tired of seeing in print. One-of-a-kind projects, plans-built, modifications, improvements, successes and failures, all the stuff we need to see in print to fulfill the LEARN aspect of the "Learn, Build, Fly" mantra of the past. Paul P is taking an active role in this as he's always been a hard- core advocate of grass-roots experimental aviation. So I encourage each and every one of you reading this to click the link above and see the effort being made. Read through the entire work and PLEASE respond to the survey at the bottom of the page. I GUARANTEE you that all eyes and ears are on this effort and your comments WILL be read and learned from by the editorial staff at EAA. You will not be wasting your time. And PLEASE pass this note along to every e-mail group you belong to and everyone in your address book who might be even remotely interested. This is the best chance we've had in like, forever, to be honestly heard by EAA. A lot of work went into the first issue and they need to know if they are on the right track or not. I believe that your comments could potentially reshape all the EAA publications in the future. Thank you!!! Sincerely, Patrick Panzera. Editor@... I apologize if you got this more than once, it just means that you and I are on the same multiple e-mail groups.
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