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Re: does any one use brs system on quickie?

John Loram <johnl@...>
 

Yashar:
I think you have all the help these is to offer. In 20 years I've never
heard of a Q2 with a BRS system. You're covering new ground, here.

regards, -john-


_____

From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...] On Behalf Of
yashar
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 8:22 AM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: [Q-LIST] does any one use brs system on quickie?



can any one give some suggestion about the instalation place on the q2?!

I have ordered one for my q2 but i want to collect some information
about the instalation place.


Re: does any one use brs system on quickie?

tedf44901 <tedf44901@...>
 

According to QBA site...Qtalk issue #19 addresses the issue. I no
longer have my issues to check. Hope this helps.



--- In Q-LIST@..., "yashar" <yashar.ostovan@...> wrote:

Hey guys!

I really nedd your help!!

--- In Q-LIST@..., "yashar" <yashar.ostovan@> wrote:

--- In Q-LIST@..., "yashar" <yashar.ostovan@> wrote:

--- In Q-LIST@..., "tedf44901" <tedf44901@> wrote:

Have you contacted the manufacturer? I believe at one time,
BRS
had
a
Q2 install drawing.



--- In Q-LIST@..., "yashar" <yashar.ostovan@>
wrote:

can any one give some suggestion about the instalation
place
on
the
q2?!

I have ordered one for my q2 but i want to collect some
information
about the instalation place.
I am not in USA, i have ordered to JUNKERS company(German
manufacturer)
and they do not have any information about quickie!!
Hey guys!!

I REALLY NEED YOUR HELP!!


Re: Pitot tube position

Jerry Marstall <jnmarstall@...>
 

Hi John
I simply riveted it to the wing skin and then with micro built up a
"faring" around the base for airflow. My location put the exit for the
tubes near the elevator slot.
I ran the tubes down the elevator slot, in front of the elevator. The
tubing is the same size used in the header tank. Probably 1/8". Where
the tubing entered the cockpit, I used a plastic tubing connection to
the Dynon. so far, so good.

Initially I left the steam gauge A/S and altimeter in since I didn't
know how the Dynon would work. The comparison was very close so I took
out the old gauges and rely totally on the Dynon. You will love it. I
haven't found the AOA very useful in the pattern. I fly final at 85mph
and the AOA doesn't come out of the green until around 70 mph. My stall
speed is around 64mph. I know in military aircraft you fly the angle of
attack meter vs airspeed. This one isn't that sensative - according to
my experience. Maybe I need to recalibrate again.

Let me know how yours works out.
Jerry

John Loram wrote:


Jerry:

Thank you very much. My Pitot arrived without an instruction manual, but
I've found the manual for the heated probe on the Dynon web site and that
has answered the, "Where" question.

Can you tell me "How" you mounted your probe? Your method of attachment
under the wing.

And, how you routed your two pneumatic lines?

Also, what size lines did you use. Seems to me since it's just
pressure with
no flow (well, almost no flow) I can run quite small bore tubing. Have you
any thoughts on this matter?

thanks, -john-

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[mailto:Q-LIST@... <mailto:Q-LIST%40yahoogroups.com>] On
Behalf Of
Jerry Marstall
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 7:00 PM
To: Q-LIST@... <mailto:Q-LIST%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Pitot tube position

The directions that come with the AOA pitot are pretty explicit.
I placed mine as directed and it seems to be working beautifully.
Jerry

John Loram wrote:

I'm looking for information about locating a Pitot tube on the under
side
of the Q2 wing. Specifically, I looking to mount a Dynon angle-of-attack
sensing Pitot tube.

Any insights, or relevant technical literature appreciated.

thank, -john-
www.loram.org










Re: does any one use brs system on quickie?

yashar <yashar.ostovan@...>
 

Hey guys!

I really nedd your help!!

--- In Q-LIST@..., "yashar" <yashar.ostovan@...> wrote:

--- In Q-LIST@..., "yashar" <yashar.ostovan@> wrote:

--- In Q-LIST@..., "tedf44901" <tedf44901@> wrote:

Have you contacted the manufacturer? I believe at one time,
BRS
had
a
Q2 install drawing.



--- In Q-LIST@..., "yashar" <yashar.ostovan@> wrote:

can any one give some suggestion about the instalation place
on
the
q2?!

I have ordered one for my q2 but i want to collect some
information
about the instalation place.
I am not in USA, i have ordered to JUNKERS company(German
manufacturer)
and they do not have any information about quickie!!
Hey guys!!

I REALLY NEED YOUR HELP!!


Re: does any one use brs system on quickie?

yashar <yashar.ostovan@...>
 

--- In Q-LIST@..., "yashar" <yashar.ostovan@...> wrote:

--- In Q-LIST@..., "tedf44901" <tedf44901@> wrote:

Have you contacted the manufacturer? I believe at one time, BRS
had
a
Q2 install drawing.



--- In Q-LIST@..., "yashar" <yashar.ostovan@> wrote:

can any one give some suggestion about the instalation place on
the
q2?!

I have ordered one for my q2 but i want to collect some
information
about the instalation place.
I am not in USA, i have ordered to JUNKERS company(German
manufacturer)
and they do not have any information about quickie!!
Hey guys!!

I REALLY NEED YOUR HELP!!


Re: Pitot tube position

John Loram <johnl@...>
 

Jerry:

Thank you very much. My Pitot arrived without an instruction manual, but
I've found the manual for the heated probe on the Dynon web site and that
has answered the, "Where" question.

Can you tell me "How" you mounted your probe? Your method of attachment
under the wing.

And, how you routed your two pneumatic lines?

Also, what size lines did you use. Seems to me since it's just pressure with
no flow (well, almost no flow) I can run quite small bore tubing. Have you
any thoughts on this matter?

thanks, -john-


_____

From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...] On Behalf Of
Jerry Marstall
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 7:00 PM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Pitot tube position



The directions that come with the AOA pitot are pretty explicit.
I placed mine as directed and it seems to be working beautifully.
Jerry

John Loram wrote:


I'm looking for information about locating a Pitot tube on the under side
of the Q2 wing. Specifically, I looking to mount a Dynon angle-of-attack
sensing Pitot tube.

Any insights, or relevant technical literature appreciated.

thank, -john-
www.loram.org






Re: Mountain States fly-in

Panzera <panzera@...>
 

WOW!

All I can say is, (in the immortal words of Wayne and Garth)
"We're not worthy!"

Thanks Jon!!!

Pat

-----Original Message-----
From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...] On Behalf Of
Jon Finley
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 8:17 PM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] Mountain States fly-in

Hi all,

Pat has given plenty of great reasons to make the trip to Jean. However;
if
you are still undecided, I have all that's necessary to convince you - I
am
planning to be there with my Q2 and I will be available to autograph
anything presented to me (keep it clean!!!) at the fly-in. This is a one
time offer that will not be repeated.

Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...]On Behalf Of
Patrick Panzera
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 6:24 PM
To: Dragonflylist@...; Q-LIST@...
Cc: Q1_Aircraft@...
Subject: [Q-LIST] Mountain States fly-in



Hey Gang!

There are just a few left until the Mountain States fly-in of the year.

www.ContactMagazine.com/Roundup/Mountain_States_Tandem.html

Rooms are still available but you have to use the following URL or phone
number. If you try Travelocity or other such sites, you'll be told that
its
sold out.

www.stopatjean.com/hotel
1-800-634-1359

We're going to do things a little different this year. The schedule has
been
updated and shows that the first two hours of forum time will be an open
forum dedicated to Q's and Dragonflys. The next two-three hours will be
"cowls off" and demo flights/rides.

From there, we'll have engine forums (and/or other topics such as
propellers) that will be of interest to tandem wing aircraft, and then the
BBQ.

But same as last year, Friday evening we'll all carpool for dinner, but
with
a twist; this year I have a hospitality suit available to meet up before
and
after dinner for a bit of social time outside of the casino environment. I
also have an adjoining room for overflow, both in the "south tower" facing
the runway. Rooms 1701 and 1702. Call or visit the front desk and ask for
Patrick Panzera's room if for some reason I get moved between now and
then.
(Stuff happens)

One of these rooms has two queen beds in it and it looks like I won't be
needing it after all. So if you can's get a room for what ever reason, I
can
let you have this one for what I paid.

Sunday will be departures and impromptu breakfast gatherings.

See ya there!

I'll be arriving on Thursday evening so I can have the building unlocked
and
ready to go early on Friday. I plan to have dinner in the hotel buffet
around 7pm if you care to join me.

Pat


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Re: header tank plumbing

Jon Finley <jon@...>
 

With that sissy gear you have on your plane, the runway will be no problem!!
:-) It is reported as 4340' x 37' at 4830'MSL. However; I help mow and
spray weeds and I know those numbers are optimistic!!

Speaking of smooth - stop by and I'll balance your prop for you. Love to
have you - offer is always open!

Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...]On Behalf Of
jcrain2@...
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 9:30 PM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] header tank plumbing


That's a great offer Jon!! Lunch would be fun!
We have a Daughter and Son In Law with children in Phoenix that feel
neglected. Our youngest son Jonathan graduated from High school this May so
we will be looking for places to go!
By the way how long and narrow did you say your runway is?

Have only flown the new engine once but it felt smooth and quiet! And
that's with the left front rocker box rubbing the cowl. Will shim the top
left motor mount and make some room on that side. Should be able to fly it
this weekend. Need to get about 10 hrs on it initially and change oil.
Will be watching things closely but everything looks very good!

Bruce


Re: header tank plumbing

Bruce Crain
 

That's a great offer Jon!! Lunch would be fun!
We have a Daughter and Son In Law with children in Phoenix that feel neglected. Our youngest son Jonathan graduated from High school this May so we will be looking for places to go!
By the way how long and narrow did you say your runway is?

Have only flown the new engine once but it felt smooth and quiet! And that's with the left front rocker box rubbing the cowl. Will shim the top left motor mount and make some room on that side. Should be able to fly it this weekend. Need to get about 10 hrs on it initially and change oil. Will be watching things closely but everything looks very good!

Bruce

-- "Jon Finley" <jon@...> wrote:
Hi Bruce,

I dunno. I stole it from someone years ago so you probably did not get it
from me.

How is that engine treating you, any additional flights yet?

When you are ready to let it run for awhile, head west and stop in for
lunch!

Jon


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Re: Mountain States fly-in

Jon Finley <jon@...>
 

Hi all,

Pat has given plenty of great reasons to make the trip to Jean. However; if
you are still undecided, I have all that's necessary to convince you - I am
planning to be there with my Q2 and I will be available to autograph
anything presented to me (keep it clean!!!) at the fly-in. This is a one
time offer that will not be repeated.

Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...]On Behalf Of
Patrick Panzera
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 6:24 PM
To: Dragonflylist@...; Q-LIST@...
Cc: Q1_Aircraft@...
Subject: [Q-LIST] Mountain States fly-in



Hey Gang!

There are just a few left until the Mountain States fly-in of the year.

www.ContactMagazine.com/Roundup/Mountain_States_Tandem.html

Rooms are still available but you have to use the following URL or phone
number. If you try Travelocity or other such sites, you'll be told that its
sold out.

www.stopatjean.com/hotel
1-800-634-1359

We're going to do things a little different this year. The schedule has been
updated and shows that the first two hours of forum time will be an open
forum dedicated to Q's and Dragonflys. The next two-three hours will be
"cowls off" and demo flights/rides.

From there, we'll have engine forums (and/or other topics such as
propellers) that will be of interest to tandem wing aircraft, and then the
BBQ.

But same as last year, Friday evening we'll all carpool for dinner, but with
a twist; this year I have a hospitality suit available to meet up before and
after dinner for a bit of social time outside of the casino environment. I
also have an adjoining room for overflow, both in the "south tower" facing
the runway. Rooms 1701 and 1702. Call or visit the front desk and ask for
Patrick Panzera's room if for some reason I get moved between now and then.
(Stuff happens)

One of these rooms has two queen beds in it and it looks like I won't be
needing it after all. So if you can's get a room for what ever reason, I can
let you have this one for what I paid.

Sunday will be departures and impromptu breakfast gatherings.

See ya there!

I'll be arriving on Thursday evening so I can have the building unlocked and
ready to go early on Friday. I plan to have dinner in the hotel buffet
around 7pm if you care to join me.

Pat


Re: header tank plumbing

Jon Finley <jon@...>
 

Hi Bruce,

I dunno. I stole it from someone years ago so you probably did not get it
from me.

How is that engine treating you, any additional flights yet?

When you are ready to let it run for awhile, head west and stop in for
lunch!

Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...]On Behalf Of
jcrain2@...
Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 6:48 PM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] header tank plumbing


Jon,
Didn't I get this idea from you originally?
Bruce


Re: WM 6.05 for HP4700

Tony molle <cdnpilot2002@...>
 

Hi Larry, I work for HP ... did not see that software on any of our internal sites, but then again I don't work in the handheld department so there may be some magical place that we keep it. I did however come up with a location that might have what you are looking for.... thanks to google. Let me know how it works out.

http://wm6.flyingarizona.net/

-Tony

larry severson <larry2@...> wrote:
I received an e-mail that WM 6.05 was available for the HP4700 PDA. I
can't find it.

Does anyone have WM 5.0? I was able to get 5.1, bit doesn't work worth spit.
Bought a bluetooth keyboard, but 5.0 is the last version that it works with.

Larry Severson
Fountain Valley, CA 92708
(714) 968-9852
larry2@...






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Re: Pitot tube position

Jerry Marstall <jnmarstall@...>
 

The directions that come with the AOA pitot are pretty explicit.
I placed mine as directed and it seems to be working beautifully.
Jerry

John Loram wrote:


I'm looking for information about locating a Pitot tube on the under side
of the Q2 wing. Specifically, I looking to mount a Dynon angle-of-attack
sensing Pitot tube.

Any insights, or relevant technical literature appreciated.

thank, -john-
www.loram.org






Pitot tube position

John Loram <johnl@...>
 

I'm looking for information about locating a Pitot tube on the under side
of the Q2 wing. Specifically, I looking to mount a Dynon angle-of-attack
sensing Pitot tube.

Any insights, or relevant technical literature appreciated.

thank, -john-
www.loram.org


Re: Parting out TriQ200- liability of selling

raoborg@...
 

Well put Mike.It was nice meeting you at sun-n-fun. Raoul

--- dmperry1012@... wrote:

From: Mike Perry <dmperry1012@...>
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: Parting out TriQ200- liability of selling
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 13:57:41 -0700

Not my area of expertise, so I can't name a case. But --

The perceived risk is what determines behavior. In my area of expertise --
Medicine -- it is quite clear that doctor's behavior is changed by
perceived risk. For example, doctors say, "you get sued for not doing
C-Sections, not for doing them." This despite the fact that 40 years of
rising C-section rates have produced no change in rates of Cerebral Palsy,
retardation, or the other things we thought we were preventing. In other
words, the C-Section rate in the US has risen from ~10% to ~30% with no net
health gain, driven by the perceived risk of lawsuits. Similarly expensive
diagnostic tests such as Brain MRIs are done to prevent lawsuits in that
extremely rare case where a Brain Tumor presents as a headache with no
neurological changes.

Please note that I never suggested the lawsuit risk is very high. I don't
think it is. However, David Chalmers perceives a risk which is intolerable
to him and his family. Thus he is parting out N4016G.

Mike Perry


At 02:02 PM 4/23/2008 -0400, you wrote:


In a message dated 4/22/2008 10:48:11 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
<mailto:dmperry1012%40charter.net>dmperry1012@... writes:

In some ways, the real risk is the risk of having to defend yourself in a
lawsuit even if you win. Bring $$$.

Could some one name one law suit in which a home built aircraft sold with a
standard disclaimer, has involved the builder, after the sale. for product
libality???????

claire johnson
building








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Re: CS 23 lower rudder hinge

schmayhoo
 

thanks Jim, that's good advice. I'm armed with a lathe and delrin in the
toyhouse so I'm all set. Thank you all for your help. Jerry



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Does anyone know who bought Dave Carlson's Q?

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Re: Parting out TriQ200- liability of selling

Mike Perry <dmperry1012@...>
 

Not my area of expertise, so I can't name a case. But --

The perceived risk is what determines behavior. In my area of expertise --
Medicine -- it is quite clear that doctor's behavior is changed by
perceived risk. For example, doctors say, "you get sued for not doing
C-Sections, not for doing them." This despite the fact that 40 years of
rising C-section rates have produced no change in rates of Cerebral Palsy,
retardation, or the other things we thought we were preventing. In other
words, the C-Section rate in the US has risen from ~10% to ~30% with no net
health gain, driven by the perceived risk of lawsuits. Similarly expensive
diagnostic tests such as Brain MRIs are done to prevent lawsuits in that
extremely rare case where a Brain Tumor presents as a headache with no
neurological changes.

Please note that I never suggested the lawsuit risk is very high. I don't
think it is. However, David Chalmers perceives a risk which is intolerable
to him and his family. Thus he is parting out N4016G.

Mike Perry

At 02:02 PM 4/23/2008 -0400, you wrote:


In a message dated 4/22/2008 10:48:11 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
<mailto:dmperry1012%40charter.net>dmperry1012@... writes:

In some ways, the real risk is the risk of having to defend yourself in a
lawsuit even if you win. Bring $$$.

Could some one name one law suit in which a home built aircraft sold with a
standard disclaimer, has involved the builder, after the sale. for product
libality???????

claire johnson
building


WM 6.05 for HP4700

Larry Severson
 

I received an e-mail that WM 6.05 was available for the HP4700 PDA. I can't find it.

Does anyone have WM 5.0? I was able to get 5.1, bit doesn't work worth spit.
Bought a bluetooth keyboard, but 5.0 is the last version that it works with.

Larry Severson
Fountain Valley, CA 92708
(714) 968-9852
larry2@...


Re: CS 23 lower rudder hinge

Jim Patillo
 

Jerry,

You might want to consider making that part from 1/4" aluminum
instead of phenolic, with lightning holes and mounting it in the same
location. It's a lot stronger and adds little to no weight. The
problem with the lower rudder bearing connection is that over time
the dissimilar materials (steel bellcrank & aluminum tube)oxidize and
becomevery difficult to get apart without destroying stuff. Keeping
it greased with a white lithium grease helps.

I oversized the hole in the aluminum plate and added a Delron bushing
through it. The steel bellcrank passes through the Delron and keeps
that connection free.

Jim Patillo
N46JP Q200

--- In Q-LIST@..., brinkerhuf@... wrote:

Thanks Sam, I had mistakenly assumed that this part was a
manufactured part
of the kit but I found it on the QBA website in the bill of
materials to be
made by the builder. It's 1/4" phenolic. I have a box of templates
and patterns
that came with the project and I'll likely find a template for it
after I
root around in there for a while. Hope that your updates and
improvements are
nearing completion. Thanks again for your help. Jerry



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