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24h.p. onan engine

jerry kennedy <jerrykennedy2001@...>
 

There is a 24 h.p. onan engine for sale phone
no.605-254-2599. He is asking $575.00 for it. I know
nothing
about it.

Jerry kennedy


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third test flight oops

Jerry Marstall <jnmarstall@...>
 

Guess our list doesn't take tables either.
J


Third test flight

Jerry Marstall <jnmarstall@...>
 

Some one asked about oil pressure after flight. Taxiing in it was 25psi.
Biggest Squawk - Heavy elevator forces. Discovered some contact of the
right stick control rod against the main tank at aft stick deflection.
Repositioned. Also will be checking the center elevator bearing on the
left elevator - some play there. Haven't detected any other reasons for
heavy (read - very heavy) stick forces. With elevators disconnected
from one another, each moves easily. Connected, they move freely.
Applied manual force to elevators, worked smoothly with full
deflection. Checked sparrow settings against Earnest's plane - within
1 deg of his. The hunt goes on!! Feel free to weigh-in.

N625JM Flight Tests



Date



11/26/2007



11/28/2007



12/8/2007









Duration



0.6



1.3



1.4









Altitude (msl)



Initial Flight



7500



5500









OAT



No Data,



39



53









Density Alt



Concentration



--



5910









RPM



On Survival



2600



2650-2700









TAS (mph)







145



145









Manifold P







22



23









Oil Pressure







40



35









Oil Temp







210



210









GPH







6.6



7.1









CHT -- No 1







300



315









No 2







310



315 ? 250









No 3







370



370









No 4







360



325





















































Comments:





















12/8/2007



Changed springs: continued heavy stick forces. Attempted stall.
Couldn't get full elevator deflection. Did not stall, 900 fpm sink.
Investigting. Rest of flight mirror image of previous. No 3 CHT
dropped from 315 to 250 half way through flight.

11/28/2007



Straight and level, breaking in engine. Heavy stick forces. All else great

11/26/2007



Great to be flying again. Love the power. No surprises


Re: HI Qual Video

britmcman99
 

Great Job, Mike!? Have you tried to post anything yet on YouTube?? I put something up and it was pretty easy.? Perhaps you could edit something down to about 4 minutes and post it.? They take up to 100 Megs of upload and then do all the necessary compression work for you.? Isn't this high tech cool?

Cheers,

Phil

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Dwyer <mdwyer@...>
To: Q-LIST@... <Q-LIST@...>
Sent: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 1:50 pm
Subject: [Q-LIST] HI Qual Video






Hey Guys,
I've been messing with a video camera in my Q200. I recorded a takeoff
from PIE, flight over Clearwater Beach FL and a landing. 38 minutes of
16x9 (wide screen) 720x 406 line (almost DVD quality) video with stereo
sound. This file was compressed into a XviD type file and is now shared
on the BitTorrent peer to peer network.

The file is 465meg so no, I can't email it to you. The only practical
way to get the file is to go to this web site:
http://flymovie.tripod.com/
and download the torrent shortcut - please follow the right click
directions!

Go half way down the page and read how to get "Azureus" which is the
program that handles the downloading.

With a high-speed interconnect account and a few people sharing the file
you should be able to download the file in a few hours...With a dial up
account, don't even try.

This video is on a bright hazy day and I had no polarizing filter and
the camera mount shakes too much (all of which I'm working on) so it's
just ok quality, still if your building it may be an incentive to get er
done! You could use Nero to convert the video to a DVD if you wish.

Mike Q200 N3QP




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HI Qual Video

Mike Dwyer <mdwyer@...>
 

Hey Guys,
I've been messing with a video camera in my Q200. I recorded a takeoff from PIE, flight over Clearwater Beach FL and a landing. 38 minutes of 16x9 (wide screen) 720x 406 line (almost DVD quality) video with stereo sound. This file was compressed into a XviD type file and is now shared on the BitTorrent peer to peer network.

The file is 465meg so no, I can't email it to you. The only practical way to get the file is to go to this web site:
http://flymovie.tripod.com/
and download the torrent shortcut - please follow the right click directions!

Go half way down the page and read how to get "Azureus" which is the program that handles the downloading.

With a high-speed interconnect account and a few people sharing the file you should be able to download the file in a few hours...With a dial up account, don't even try.

This video is on a bright hazy day and I had no polarizing filter and the camera mount shakes too much (all of which I'm working on) so it's just ok quality, still if your building it may be an incentive to get er done! You could use Nero to convert the video to a DVD if you wish.

Mike Q200 N3QP


Re: Sorry

Paul Buckley
 

The list will not accept attachments, Jerry......

Paul B.

----- Original Message -----
From: Jerry Marstall
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 12:38 AM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Sorry


Sorry for the dupes, but for some reason the attach isn't coming
through. I'll keep working on it.
J





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Sorry

Jerry Marstall <jnmarstall@...>
 

Sorry for the dupes, but for some reason the attach isn't coming through. I'll keep working on it.
J


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Jerry Marstall <jnmarstall@...>
 

NEED I SAY MORE??????

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S


Re: Engine choices

Dennis Gentry
 

These engines and the Moller skycar should both be ready real soon now.

Dennis
P.S. For the irony impaired, "I don't think either one will ever ship."

On Dec 7, 2007 6:15 AM, Brian Bulaw <BrianBulaw@...>
wrote:

Chuck,

Don't waste your time considering Zoche. I also called him using a
translator in 1990. Then he was about 6 months away.

Brian Bulaw

N24H - Q2 converting to Jabiru 3300

-----Original Message-----
From: Q-LIST@... <Q-LIST%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:
Q-LIST@... <Q-LIST%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of
cburgoontrike3
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 3:44 AM
To: Q-LIST@... <Q-LIST%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: Motor fuel vs Epoxy

Hi Jon,

I'm in Germany now and will be going to Munich tomorrow. I hoped to
see the Zoche engine, but when I talked to the guy (through a
translator) he said it would be a few more years before he's
finished. So close, but so far.

http://www.zoche. <http://www.zoche.de/specs.html> de/specs.html

Chuck





Third Test Flight

Jerry Marstall <jnmarstall@...>
 

NEED I SAY MORE??????

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Re: Motor fuel vs Epoxy

Peter Harris <peterjfharris@...>
 

Chuck

The Zoche has been in that status for at least 10 years. Must be a
personality problem up there. It looks great on the website.

Peter



_____

From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...] On Behalf Of
cburgoontrike3
Sent: Friday, 7 December 2007 6:44 PM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: Motor fuel vs Epoxy



Hi Jon,

I'm in Germany now and will be going to Munich tomorrow. I hoped to
see the Zoche engine, but when I talked to the guy (through a
translator) he said it would be a few more years before he's
finished. So close, but so far.

http://www.zoche. <http://www.zoche.de/specs.html> de/specs.html

Chuck

Also check out:

http://www.amtonlin
<http://www.amtonline.com/publication/article.jsp?id=4434&pubId=1>
e.com/publication/article.jsp?id=4434&pubId=1

--- In Q-LIST@yahoogroups. <mailto:Q-LIST%40yahoogroups.com> com, "Jon
Finley" <jon@...> wrote:

Subaru is coming out with a 4 cylinder diesel boxer in 2008. Not
many
details available about it yet. The biggest downside of the auto
diesel is
that the electronics are reportedly incredibly complex - even to
the point
of making modern day EFI engines looks simple.

Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: Q-LIST@yahoogroups. <mailto:Q-LIST%40yahoogroups.com> com
[mailto:Q-LIST@yahoogroups. <mailto:Q-LIST%40yahoogroups.com> com]On
Behalf Of
viggenbuilder2
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 12:22 PM
To: Q-LIST@yahoogroups. <mailto:Q-LIST%40yahoogroups.com> com
Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: Motor fuel vs Epoxy


Hi Mike,
I run my cars on unleaded, which is currently about £1 a litre,
which
4.5 litres is approx 1 english gallon, so that makes it almost twice
as dear as your 100LL. Our Diesel is dearer than unleaded, but as
you
get a better mileage return that makes it cheaper overall. I would
still rather pay your fuel bill than mine!!
The Longeze is not that deep at the mounting area, its about the
same
as the Q2 cowl footprint, but it has the advantage of being quite a
caverous cowling, so you can hide and fair in lots of bits without
too much trouble.
Somewhere in the old brain cells I thought someone had been looking
at a flat diesel, which may have been Germany. I'll see if find it
again.
Rich.
Richard Thomson
TriQ200 G-BMFN


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Re: Engine choices

cburgoontrike3 <CBurgoon@...>
 

Hi Brian,

Yes, Others have said the same thing. I prefer the Gemini 100
anyway. But it's the same sort of deal I'm afraid. I like the
concept a lot.

http://www.amtonline.com/publication/article.jsp?id=4434&pubId=1

Chuck


--- In Q-LIST@..., "Brian Bulaw" <BrianBulaw@...> wrote:

Chuck,



Don't waste your time considering Zoche. I also called him using a
translator in 1990. Then he was about 6 months away.



Brian Bulaw

N24H - Q2 converting to Jabiru 3300





-----Original Message-----
From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...] On
Behalf Of
cburgoontrike3
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 3:44 AM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: Motor fuel vs Epoxy



Hi Jon,

I'm in Germany now and will be going to Munich tomorrow. I hoped to
see the Zoche engine, but when I talked to the guy (through a
translator) he said it would be a few more years before he's
finished. So close, but so far.

http://www.zoche. <http://www.zoche.de/specs.html> de/specs.html

Chuck



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Engine choices

Brian Bulaw <BrianBulaw@...>
 

Chuck,



Don't waste your time considering Zoche. I also called him using a
translator in 1990. Then he was about 6 months away.



Brian Bulaw

N24H - Q2 converting to Jabiru 3300

-----Original Message-----
From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...] On Behalf Of
cburgoontrike3
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 3:44 AM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: Motor fuel vs Epoxy



Hi Jon,

I'm in Germany now and will be going to Munich tomorrow. I hoped to
see the Zoche engine, but when I talked to the guy (through a
translator) he said it would be a few more years before he's
finished. So close, but so far.

http://www.zoche. <http://www.zoche.de/specs.html> de/specs.html

Chuck


Re: Motor fuel vs Epoxy

cburgoontrike3 <CBurgoon@...>
 

Hi Jon,

I'm in Germany now and will be going to Munich tomorrow. I hoped to
see the Zoche engine, but when I talked to the guy (through a
translator) he said it would be a few more years before he's
finished. So close, but so far.

http://www.zoche.de/specs.html


Chuck

Also check out:

http://www.amtonline.com/publication/article.jsp?id=4434&pubId=1




--- In Q-LIST@..., "Jon Finley" <jon@...> wrote:

Subaru is coming out with a 4 cylinder diesel boxer in 2008. Not
many
details available about it yet. The biggest downside of the auto
diesel is
that the electronics are reportedly incredibly complex - even to
the point
of making modern day EFI engines looks simple.

Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...]On
Behalf Of
viggenbuilder2
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 12:22 PM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: Motor fuel vs Epoxy


Hi Mike,
I run my cars on unleaded, which is currently about £1 a litre,
which
4.5 litres is approx 1 english gallon, so that makes it almost twice
as dear as your 100LL. Our Diesel is dearer than unleaded, but as
you
get a better mileage return that makes it cheaper overall. I would
still rather pay your fuel bill than mine!!
The Longeze is not that deep at the mounting area, its about the
same
as the Q2 cowl footprint, but it has the advantage of being quite a
caverous cowling, so you can hide and fair in lots of bits without
too much trouble.
Somewhere in the old brain cells I thought someone had been looking
at a flat diesel, which may have been Germany. I'll see if find it
again.
Rich.
Richard Thomson
TriQ200 G-BMFN


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Wing Shape

murojd <murojd@...>
 

I am a Machanical Engineer student at drexel and I am very interested in the Q2. There is a
old plane locally for sale. One of my projects at drexel is to do stress anyalisis on the Q2
canard with landing gear. If I can produce a good model I will be able to produce a dynamic
stress plot showing the stress on the entire wing and wheel on landing. I will also be able to
determine at what vertical velocity the wing will fail. I have found the plans on how the wing
is made, but I do not have the foam core shape. If anyone could give me the dimensions at
the wing tip and root I might be able to build a accurate model. I would also be happy to
share the results on the message board.

So my question is does anyone have the dimensions for the foam at the canard tip and the
root?
thanks very much,
John


Shamless promotion - stuff on Ebay

Sam Hoskins
 

A am redoing my instrument panel and am selling some stuff on Ebay. Right
now I have a NAV/COM, vacuum system parts and engine instruments listed. I
think you should be able to find them here:
http://motors.search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZsammyq2

Regards,

Sam Hoskins
Murphysboro, IL


Re: Type aproval SA CAA

John ten
 

Bernhart,

There are probably several ways to skin this cat.

Do you have an experimental category or does each new airframe have to
be fully certified?

If they are already flying in SA, consider building a Q2 (at least for
official purposes) and explore the options for modification / engine
upgrade later on.

If Qxs do not exist in SA, consider building a scratch built Bernhart
CAIA 1 - (which will bear an uncanny resemblance to the Q series). It
may be that indigenous designs get more lenient treatment. (Resist any
temptation to paint it black, however..;-))

There is a very active contributor on Canard aviators group (Chris van
Hoof from Memory) who has built and flown a cozy in South Africa who
may well be able to give you location specific advice.

One of my previous South African employees was an active homebuilder
before coming to Australia and I recall that he had flown in an auto-
conversion powered homebuilt, so it is possible. I will give him a
call and see if he can shed any light on the subject.

Remember the usual rule of thumb, A new aircraft cannot fly until
the weight of the paperwork equals the MAUW

Regards

John

--- In Q-LIST@..., "Bernhardt" <bernhardt.jansen@...> wrote:

Hi All

I can not say that I am new to this list, but it is definately the
first time I'm posting anything (been on the side line for almost a
year now)

As All of us when we're starting a new project I am very
enthusiastick, just wanting to get in , and go, but a friend of mine
advised me to first contact our South African CAA, to accuire a
builder number, since he had endless trouble getting his project
registered, and eventually a prooving flight authority.

So I followed his advice, and went to see our CAA, who told me that
they have no data about the Q200, and hence will not be able to issue
me with a builder number unless I can supply them with the neccesary
data, this includes wing loading tests, control strenght data
bla.bla..bla and a whole archive full of everything???, which I have
no idea where to find. The way they made it sound was just short of
certification, but I want to give it a go anyway, and will really
apretiate any help/data I can get my hands on.

My project will be a scratch build, since I have the fuselage moulds,
templates, plans, an excelent Mentor....the whole nine yards, except
the back-up from the local authoroty. Please help!!

Bernhardt
Q200......If all goes well.


Re: Type aproval SA CAA

Bernhardt
 

We have two flying Q's in the country, and the molds were pulled from
the one in 1996 prior to construction started. The owner did that
because at the time concidered building another, and with QAC closed
over 10 years earlier didn't think anyone would complain... He got
the original kit somewhare from a barnyard sale in '95.

I have done some more ivestigation about the data required, and any
thing FAR 23 related could be useful.

Bernhardt
Q200.....If all goes well --- In Q-LIST@..., "Doug
Humble" <hawkidoug@...> wrote:

Just curious, where does someone from South Africa come by Q2
fuselage molds???

Doug "Hawkeye" Humble
A Sign Above www.asignabove.net
Omaha NE
N25974
----- Original Message -----


Re: Type aproval SA CAA

Doug Humble <hawkidoug@...>
 

Just curious, where does someone from South Africa come by Q2 fuselage molds???

Doug "Hawkeye" Humble
A Sign Above www.asignabove.net
Omaha NE
N25974

----- Original Message -----
From: Bernhardt
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 5:10 AM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Type aproval SA CAA


Hi All

I can not say that I am new to this list, but it is definately the
first time I'm posting anything (been on the side line for almost a
year now)

As All of us when we're starting a new project I am very
enthusiastick, just wanting to get in , and go, but a friend of mine
advised me to first contact our South African CAA, to accuire a
builder number, since he had endless trouble getting his project
registered, and eventually a prooving flight authority.

So I followed his advice, and went to see our CAA, who told me that
they have no data about the Q200, and hence will not be able to issue
me with a builder number unless I can supply them with the neccesary
data, this includes wing loading tests, control strenght data
bla.bla..bla and a whole archive full of everything???, which I have
no idea where to find. The way they made it sound was just short of
certification, but I want to give it a go anyway, and will really
apretiate any help/data I can get my hands on.

My project will be a scratch build, since I have the fuselage moulds,
templates, plans, an excelent Mentor....the whole nine yards, except
the back-up from the local authoroty. Please help!!

Bernhardt
Q200......If all goes well.


Type aproval SA CAA

Bernhardt
 

Hi All

I can not say that I am new to this list, but it is definately the
first time I'm posting anything (been on the side line for almost a
year now)

As All of us when we're starting a new project I am very
enthusiastick, just wanting to get in , and go, but a friend of mine
advised me to first contact our South African CAA, to accuire a
builder number, since he had endless trouble getting his project
registered, and eventually a prooving flight authority.

So I followed his advice, and went to see our CAA, who told me that
they have no data about the Q200, and hence will not be able to issue
me with a builder number unless I can supply them with the neccesary
data, this includes wing loading tests, control strenght data
bla.bla..bla and a whole archive full of everything???, which I have
no idea where to find. The way they made it sound was just short of
certification, but I want to give it a go anyway, and will really
apretiate any help/data I can get my hands on.

My project will be a scratch build, since I have the fuselage moulds,
templates, plans, an excelent Mentor....the whole nine yards, except
the back-up from the local authoroty. Please help!!

Bernhardt
Q200......If all goes well.