Re: Intake Elbow
Deems Herring
Bruce,
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Once TCM started making the ones with the bosses on them that became the only kind they make. If you order new ones for any of the small continentals you will get the kind you have. You need to find some used ones. I know the 75, 85 and 90 ones will fit right in place, I am not 100% sure that the A 65 ones have the same internal size. They show up on ebay and barnstormers quite often and you can usually get them for less than what people pay for the O-200 ones for some reason. It seems obvious but when buying used make sure they are selling 2 for cylinders 1 & 4 and 2 for cylinders 2 & 3 (don't ask me why I mention that). Deems
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From: "jcrain2@..." <jcrain2@...> To: Q-LIST@... Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 8:42:20 PM Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Intake Elbow Thanks Deems, So I could just order elbows for say a C90 and the amount of air flow and the bolt holes would be the exact same as the 0200? Without the little extra knuckles for an injection system. Bruce Crain Please note: message attached ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ Click here to find the right stock, bonds, and mutual funds. http://thirdpartyof fers.juno. com/TGL2111/ fc/Ioyw6iiejYK9R kCejaV5zRFoTPU2T zwImOj5ngzOIYW4D mVgvqErHq/ <!-- #ygrp-mkp{ border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:14px 0px;padding:0px 14px;} #ygrp-mkp hr{ border:1px solid #d8d8d8;} #ygrp-mkp #hd{ color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:bold;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0px;} #ygrp-mkp #ads{ margin-bottom:10px;} #ygrp-mkp .ad{ padding:0 0;} #ygrp-mkp .ad a{ color:#0000ff;text-decoration:none;} --> <!-- #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc{ font-family:Arial;} #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc #hd{ margin:10px 0px;font-weight:bold;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc .ad{ margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;} --> <!-- #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px;font-family:arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;} #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;} #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height:1.22em;} #ygrp-text{ font-family:Georgia; } #ygrp-text p{ margin:0 0 1em 0;} #ygrp-tpmsgs{ font-family:Arial; clear:both;} #ygrp-vitnav{ padding-top:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;margin:0;} #ygrp-vitnav a{ padding:0 1px;} #ygrp-actbar{ clear:both;margin:25px 0;white-space:nowrap;color:#666;text-align:right;} #ygrp-actbar .left{ float:left;white-space:nowrap;} .bld{font-weight:bold;} #ygrp-grft{ font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;padding:15px 0;} #ygrp-ft{ font-family:verdana;font-size:77%;border-top:1px solid #666; padding:5px 0; } #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{ padding-bottom:10px;} #ygrp-vital{ background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:2px 0 8px 8px;} #ygrp-vital #vithd{ font-size:77%;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:bold;color:#333;text-transform:uppercase;} #ygrp-vital ul{ padding:0;margin:2px 0;} #ygrp-vital ul li{ list-style-type:none;clear:both;border:1px solid #e0ecee; } #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{ font-weight:bold;color:#ff7900;float:right;width:2em;text-align:right;padding-right:.5em;} #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{ font-weight:bold;} #ygrp-vital a{ text-decoration:none;} #ygrp-vital a:hover{ text-decoration:underline;} #ygrp-sponsor #hd{ color:#999;font-size:77%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov{ padding:6px 13px;background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{ padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{ list-style-type:square;padding:6px 0;font-size:77%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{ text-decoration:none;font-size:130%;} #ygrp-sponsor #nc{ background-color:#eee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:0 8px;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad{ padding:8px 0;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{ font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;color:#628c2a;font-size:100%;line-height:122%;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ text-decoration:none;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{ text-decoration:underline;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{ margin:0;} o{font-size:0;} .MsoNormal{ margin:0 0 0 0;} #ygrp-text tt{ font-size:120%;} blockquote{margin:0 0 0 4px;} .replbq{margin:4;} --> ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
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Re: Tri Q Rudder Cables
Ron Weiss <ronweiss4@...>
--Thanks Mark....I guess no one out there has a flying Quickie? Ron-
In Q-LIST@..., "Ron Weiss" <ronweiss4@...> wrote: open system attached to the firewall with springs?some resistance. No matter how I hooked up the cables and springs, theto make it a pull pull arrangement. This feels much better to me andseems a safer system all around.the rudder. I'm much happier with this system, but , interested in howsome of you are setting yours up and how they work?
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Flight contol - corrosion inspection
fitzair4@...
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Some? inspection tips for Quickie builders and pilots. ?After 25+ years of working on them, Corrosion is a very big problem on the rudders, elevators and ailerons. Water on the outside?surface of the fuselage, will get into them. Worked on projects, the builders didn't work on for many years. They never epoxy primed painted the outside?or seal coated the inside of the tubing before assembling. Disassembling these corroded controls took a long time, to keep from damaging them. Had to replaced them. For the pilots that have time on their Q2, during your annual inspection. Remove the rudder and check the CSA10 bellcrank?into the CS21. Aileron controls CS 11 into CS9, Elevators CSA8 into CS16. Check them for wear and corrosion. This is also the time to replace the flange steel bearings QCSM4 and QCSM6?with Oil lite bronze bearings. Steel on steel with no lube is bad wear and corrosion. Take them to any local bearing supplier for replacements. Don't take a spray can to lube your controls. Put?the oil?on a Q tip and apply it. Over spray will go where you don't want it. As some of you know that live near a ocean. Salt is in the air. Over a year ago, there was a complaint about Canard alum lift tabs corrosion. They complain about it 15 years after they received it. I worked for 11 years at OMC engineering, 1969 to 1980. We had one Paint Research Dept next to our Stress Lab. We sent out sample to test stations, one in Stuart, Fla. The experimental test to find the right paint, was a very interesting study. I talked to Scott Swing about his problems, at his Velocity location.. He told me that if they leave any untreated metal out side for one day, corrosions starts very fast. Just store anything from your projects in a very dry inveriment. I still like white epoxy primers for the outside surfaces. Better protection from UL & direct sun light? heat, on any assembly that is left in a bad location and you forgot about it.. Don,t store your composite assemblies in the attic of a building. The temps, will get over 140 Deg F. Last Saturday I attended for the 16th time,?our yearly Wisconsin?IA & A&P seminar. Many interesting tips on engine care to write up about on?at another E-mail some day. Was attended by over 340 Mechanics,?Aircraft MFG and FAA. There was a 1 1/2 hour talk from a Lawyer, about aircraft maintenance liability. At the Seminar, there was very few people there under 45 years old. After his talk, it is very obvious why being a A & P is a dying trade. Last year was 405 there in attendance.??? http://www.dot.wisconsin.gov/news/docs/mech-agenda.pdf We have two sets of Tri-Q wheel, brakes, tires, tubes, axles assemblies and wheel pants in storage, never installed. Many other assemblies listed in our web site. www.fitzair.net Larry Fitzgerald ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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From: Dave Dugas <davedq2@...> To: Q-LIST@... Sent: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 9:59 am Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Elevator Binding Lynn and Jon, I routinely check the outboard pivots too. I discovered the left outboard pivot loosened, so I removed my elevators and checked everything. The center pivots were fine, but both outboard pivots needed tightening. I think they may have worked loose because a small amount of corrosion was found on the pivot. I believe it was caused by water from rain or washing/rinsing, running downhill to that point, and causing the pivot to seize a little, eventually loosening the pivot bolt. after tightening, I used a heavy grease on both the outboard and inboard pivots. When I originally assembled them, I just used a thin spray oil to lube them. I think that the grease will protect much better. There is enough flex in the elevator to easily see if the pivots are loose, like Jon says, by pushing up and down on the elevator at these points. Dave D LJFrench <LJFrench@...> wrote: Jon, Thanks for the info. Do you think you would have been able to detect this loose pin during a preflight by trying to move the elevator up and down in the vicinity of the attachment? Thanks LF ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Finley" <jon@...> To: <Q-LIST@...> Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 11:30 AM Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] Elevator Binding Hi Lynn,--------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com
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Re: Fillet rule of thumb?
Peter Harris <peterjfharris@...>
Is there any value in making a fillet at the LE joint with the hull?
Peter _____ From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...] On Behalf Of larry severson Sent: Thursday, 21 February 2008 2:19 AM To: Q-LIST@... Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: Fillet rule of thumb? At 06:24 AM 2/20/2008, you wrote: It occurred to me that all this discussion has been entertaining forIt will do a lot more than that. Any fuselage/wing join greater than 60 degrees creates HIGH drag. Larry Severson Fountain Valley, CA 92708 (714) 968-9852 larry2@socal. <mailto:larry2%40socal.rr.com> rr.com
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Re: Q1 Hydraulic Brakes - advice please
Stan Susman <stanpfa@...>
Many years ago Dick Rutan put 1/16 stainless tubing inside his old nylo-flow tubeing and the brakes worked fine. I have the 25 year old nylo flow on my long EZ and it's still ok, I have alu vari tube in the trailing edge of my LG and it will make replacement a snap.
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Re: Fillet rule of thumb?
Larry Severson
At 06:24 AM 2/20/2008, you wrote:
It occurred to me that all this discussion has been entertaining for all of us non-engineers and that for (maybe) the vast majority of "us" a fillet is an esthetic thing, but you serous guys are serious. Hope it helps you squeeze an additional tenth of a knot out of her, Sammy.It will do a lot more than that. Any fuselage/wing join greater than 60 degrees creates HIGH drag. Larry Severson Fountain Valley, CA 92708 (714) 968-9852 larry2@...
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Re: Fillet rule of thumb?
Larry Severson
At 01:47 AM 2/20/2008, you wrote:
Sam,I got the suggestion from an engineer with 30 years experience at Northrup and extensive Rutan design build activity. Larry Severson Fountain Valley, CA 92708 (714) 968-9852 larry2@...
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Re: Fillet rule of thumb?
Doug Humble <hawkidoug@...>
I believe the beer can is used prior to figuring out the dimensions. The more cans you use, the better it looks.
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Doug "Hawkeye" Humble A Sign Above www.asignabove.net Omaha NE N25974
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From: johntenhave To: Q-LIST@... Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 3:47 AM Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: Fillet rule of thumb? Sam, I do not know if you have used it before but the NACA report server has a wealth of the real deal aero research carried out by "real engineers" Some of them might even have been professionals ;-) Do a search on interference drag (report 518 for an example) It is a treasure trove. I have searched carefully but can find no reference to beer cans as an aerodynamic unit of measurement, although it may be a derived figure. Some of the earlier pre-computer papers have excellent explanations which will help. Some of the list members with access to an engineering library may be able to hunt up the bible. If you get stuck I can get it on interloan and see what is there. Report back regards John --- In Q-LIST@..., "Sam Hoskins" <sam.hoskins@...> wrote: > > Hi gang, > > Once again, I'm up to no good. Would anyone happen to know the rule > of thumb regarding the radius required for wing root fillets? I seem > to recall that the radius is a percentage of the chord. Can't > remember the numbers, though. > > Does anyone know? > > > Jealous of Paul F. (He's flying). > > Sam Hoskins > Murphysboro, IL >
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Re: Fillet rule of thumb?
Mark A. Pearson <wlkabout@...>
It occurred to me that all this discussion has been entertaining for all of us non-engineers and that for (maybe) the vast majority of "us" a fillet is an esthetic thing, but you serous guys are serious. Hope it helps you squeeze an additional tenth of a knot out of her, Sammy.
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From: Sam Hoskins To: Q-LIST@... Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 6:58 AM Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: Fillet rule of thumb? That is what I was looking for, Charlie. Thanks! I also received some photos of various aircraft, from some of the guys. My challenge is introducing a fillet, where there is so little space betwixt the inboard edge of the elevator and the fuselage. i have already built up the area with two-part foam, now I just need to carve and glass it. I think I may use the vertical versions seen on so many of today's jets. I have seen some Lancair Legacy's with that set-up. It will be simple, doable, and a lot better than what I used to have. Thanks all! Sam Hoskins Murphysboro, IL On Feb 20, 2008 6:51 AM, <oneskydog@...> wrote: > > > > > > > Sam and John, > > I looked in Horton at the interference drag graph for wing to fuselage 6 to > 8% of chord at the root. > > Regards, > > Charlie > > > In a message dated 2/20/2008 2:47:50 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, > > johntenhave@... writes: > > Sam, > > I do not know if you have used it before but the NACA report server > has a wealth of the real deal aero research carried out by "real > engineers" Some of them might even have been professionals ;-) > > Do a search on interference drag (report 518 for an example) It is a > treasure trove. I have searched carefully but can find no reference > to beer cans as an aerodynamic unit of measurement, although it may be > a derived figure. Some of the earlier pre-computer papers have > excellent explanations which will help. > > Some of the list members with access to an engineering library may be > able to hunt up the bible. If you get stuck I can get it on interloan > and see what is there. > > Report back > > regards > > John > > --- In _Q-LIST@... (mailto:Q-LIST@...) , "Sam > > Hoskins" <sam.hoskins@sam> wrote: > > > > Hi gang, > > > > Once again, I'm up to no good. Would anyone happen to know the rule > > of thumb regarding the radius required for wing root fillets? I seem > > to recall that the radius is a percentage of the chord. Can't > > remember the numbers, though. > > > > Does anyone know? > > > > > > Jealous of Paul F. (He's flying). > > > > Sam Hoskins > > Murphysboro, IL > > > > **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. > > (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ > 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598) > > > >
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Re: Fillet rule of thumb?
That is what I was looking for, Charlie. Thanks!
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I also received some photos of various aircraft, from some of the guys. My challenge is introducing a fillet, where there is so little space betwixt the inboard edge of the elevator and the fuselage. i have already built up the area with two-part foam, now I just need to carve and glass it. I think I may use the vertical versions seen on so many of today's jets. I have seen some Lancair Legacy's with that set-up. It will be simple, doable, and a lot better than what I used to have. Thanks all! Sam Hoskins Murphysboro, IL
On Feb 20, 2008 6:51 AM, <oneskydog@...> wrote:
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Re: Fillet rule of thumb?
MartinErni@...
Doug,
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I just love the way your mind works. E
In a message dated 2/20/2008 9:49:01 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
hawkidoug@... writes: I believe the beer can is used prior to figuring out the dimensions. The more cans you use, the better it looks. Doug "Hawkeye" Humble A Sign Above www.asignabove.A S Omaha NE N25974 ----- Original Message ----- From: johntenhave To: _Q-LIST@... (mailto:Q-LIST@...) Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 3:47 AM Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: Fillet rule of thumb? Sam, I do not know if you have used it before but the NACA report server has a wealth of the real deal aero research carried out by "real engineers" Some of them might even have been professionals ;-) Do a search on interference drag (report 518 for an example) It is a treasure trove. I have searched carefully but can find no reference to beer cans as an aerodynamic unit of measurement, although it may be a derived figure. Some of the earlier pre-computer papers have excellent explanations which will help. Some of the list members with access to an engineering library may be able to hunt up the bible. If you get stuck I can get it on interloan and see what is there. Report back regards John --- In _Q-LIST@... (mailto:Q-LIST@...) , "Sam Hoskins" <sam.hoskins@sam> wrote: [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)
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Re: Fillet rule of thumb?
JMasal@...
In a message dated 2/20/2008 8:28:01 A.M. Central Standard Time,
wlkabout@... writes: but you serous guys are serious. Hope it helps you squeeze an additional tenth of a knot out of her, Sammy. A Prof of mine once said: We are becoming so smart these days that we are knowing more and more about less and less so that soon we will know all there is to know about nothing. Many of us know that FIRST you get the plane out of the garage and into the air. Then you can fiddle-fart around with the miniscule details. If you don't, there is a high probability you will never finish your project... and some other guy may. A number of you guys have acquired earlier started projects to prove that. Now as for Sam, he has a thousand flying hours on his and now is a fine time to look for that tenth of a knot here and there. When you get in the air... and IF you get in the air, you will be tickled plum to death if you are flying along at even 140kts. So FIRST get out in the shop and DO something... regularly! (and enjoy the arcane discussions late in the evening when you are outta the shop and dont let them divert your attentino). And finally: Better is the enemy of Good. j. **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)
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Re: Fillet rule of thumb?
John ten
Sam,
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I do not know if you have used it before but the NACA report server has a wealth of the real deal aero research carried out by "real engineers" Some of them might even have been professionals ;-) Do a search on interference drag (report 518 for an example) It is a treasure trove. I have searched carefully but can find no reference to beer cans as an aerodynamic unit of measurement, although it may be a derived figure. Some of the earlier pre-computer papers have excellent explanations which will help. Some of the list members with access to an engineering library may be able to hunt up the bible. If you get stuck I can get it on interloan and see what is there. Report back regards John
--- In Q-LIST@..., "Sam Hoskins" <sam.hoskins@...> wrote:
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Re: Fillet rule of thumb?
Sam and John,
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I looked in Horton at the interference drag graph for wing to fuselage 6 to 8% of chord at the root. Regards, Charlie
In a message dated 2/20/2008 2:47:50 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,
johntenhave@... writes: Sam, I do not know if you have used it before but the NACA report server has a wealth of the real deal aero research carried out by "real engineers" Some of them might even have been professionals ;-) Do a search on interference drag (report 518 for an example) It is a treasure trove. I have searched carefully but can find no reference to beer cans as an aerodynamic unit of measurement, although it may be a derived figure. Some of the earlier pre-computer papers have excellent explanations which will help. Some of the list members with access to an engineering library may be able to hunt up the bible. If you get stuck I can get it on interloan and see what is there. Report back regards John --- In _Q-LIST@... (mailto:Q-LIST@...) , "Sam Hoskins" <sam.hoskins@sam> wrote:
**************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)
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Re: Q1 Hydraulic Brakes - advice please
Kerri & Mark <ksm@...>
Hi Paul
how is Vicky her photo is still on the workshop wall, send your email and I can send pictures. I also thought about hydraulic systems but the system was cable and has worked for this long why add fluid in an old pipe and risk over stressing it. as yet no testing has been done I am planing on making half a pant and belt driving the wheel for test and service life tests Mark Fitzgerald Q1 NZ
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Re: Intake Elbow
Thanks Deems,
So I could just order elbows for say a C90 and the amount of air flow and the bolt holes would be the exact same as the 0200? Without the little extra knuckles for an injection system. Bruce Crain Please note: message attached _____________________________________________________________ Click here to find the right stock, bonds, and mutual funds. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2111/fc/Ioyw6iiejYK9RkCejaV5zRFoTPU2TzwImOj5ngzOIYW4DmVgvqErHq/
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Re: Intake Elbow
Deems Herring
They are the same for all the engines. continental just started making them with the injector bosses when they started making the O-200.
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Re: Fillet rule of thumb?
denpau@...
Sam,
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I work on commercial aviation aircraft, more years than I care to mention. All of the most recent designs (Jets) that I have come across have as close to 90 degree junctions between the upper wing surface and the fuselage as practical. Fillets forward and aft of the wing and blending on the under side are about the limit of streamlining. Maybe the wind tunnels show something us amatures cannot visualize? Dennis ---------------------- Original Message: --------------------- From: "Sam Hoskins" <sam.hoskins@...> To: "Quickie List" <Q-LIST@...> Subject: [Q-LIST] Fillet rule of thumb? Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 01:54:33 +0000
Hi gang,
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Re: Q1 Hydraulic Brakes - a load of pants?
denpau@...
Dr. Paul,
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Some years back at Sun&Fun, Starlite (sp) Wheels had a display. The spun aluminum wheels (two halves welded together) with integral hydraulic disk brakes, fitting within the wheel profile (no bulge on side of wheel pants) impressed me. Tubeless tires could be used, saving some weight. Not too long ago I located their web page, still could not afford the price. Dennis ---------------------- Original Message: --------------------- From: "Dr Paul M Wright" <paul@...> To: Q-LIST@... Subject: [Q-LIST] Q1 Hydraulic Brakes - a load of pants? Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 10:35:45 +0000
Thanks for such a comprehensive response everyone!
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Re: Fillet rule of thumb?
John ten
Sam,
Charlie disturbed the cobwebs sufficiently to recall that the bible on the subject is Hoerner S., Fluid-Dynamic Drag. Highly recommended. It was the design reference used by Mike Arnold for the AR5 as an example.. The Horton brothers wing to fuselage fillets are sometimes quite hard to find - but not nearly as hard to find as the tail group fillets...;-) regards John --- In Q-LIST@..., oneskydog@... wrote: that is what I am doing on my Dragonfly canard (oops it was supposed to be asecret, I got Marstall in my sights).Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)
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