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Re: Finger Brakes (was nylaflow tubing)
Mike, it's easy. Just use two Airheart master cylinders. Here is how
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I did mine: http://samhoskins.blogspot.com/ Regards, Sam Hoskins
On Feb 17, 2008 4:03 PM, Mike Perry <dmperry1012@...> wrote:
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Re: Finger Brakes (was nylaflow tubing)
Mike Perry <dmperry1012@...>
Not exactly. I used spaces to indent the fifth and sixth lines in the
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first version, to show they were subsidiary concepts to the third line. In the second version I moved those into parentheses. I forgot that Yahoo strips out duplicate spaces. Mike Perry
At 10:19 PM 2/17/2008 +0000, you wrote:
FYI Mike, both of your posts came out the same!
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Re: Finger Brakes (was nylaflow tubing)
Paul Buckley
FYI Mike, both of your posts came out the same!
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From: Mike Perry To: Q-LIST@... Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 10:08 PM Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Finger Brakes (was nylaflow tubing) Yahoo groups reformatted my post so it isn't clear. Try this version: Paul Fisher wrote that he used dual finger brakes on his Q-200. I am interested in that setup because: -- gives differential braking -- totally independent of the tail cone/tail wheel (a fracture there still leaves you with steering, and rudder pedal/tail wheel construction is simpler) -- brake master cylinders are more accessible for maintenance. I purchased the Great Plains Dual Hand Lever Master Cylinders, but they are heavier and bulkier than I expected. (I also have the GPASC toe brake cylinders. I need to decide soon which I am going to install.) Questions: What sources have people used for "Finger Brake" master cylinders? Where do you locate them? Any comments on cockpit ergonomics? Thanks for any help -- Mike Perry >At 04:41 AM 2/17/2008 +0000, Paul Fisher wrote: > > >Me too. 17.5 years on standard equipment. Independant finger brakes > >(two masters cylinders). > > > >- Paul > >Q-200 N17PF 1335 hours ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.7/1283 - Release Date: 16/02/2008 14:16
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Re: Finger Brakes (was nylaflow tubing)
Mike Perry <dmperry1012@...>
Yahoo groups reformatted my post so it isn't clear. Try this version:
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Paul Fisher wrote that he used dual finger brakes on his Q-200. I am interested in that setup because: -- gives differential braking -- totally independent of the tail cone/tail wheel (a fracture there still leaves you with steering, and rudder pedal/tail wheel construction is simpler) -- brake master cylinders are more accessible for maintenance. I purchased the Great Plains Dual Hand Lever Master Cylinders, but they are heavier and bulkier than I expected. (I also have the GPASC toe brake cylinders. I need to decide soon which I am going to install.) Questions: What sources have people used for "Finger Brake" master cylinders? Where do you locate them? Any comments on cockpit ergonomics? Thanks for any help -- Mike Perry
At 04:41 AM 2/17/2008 +0000, Paul Fisher wrote:Me too. 17.5 years on standard equipment. Independant finger brakes
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Finger Brakes (was nylaflow tubing)
Mike Perry <dmperry1012@...>
Paul Fisher wrote that he used dual finger brakes on his Q-200. I am
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interested in that setup because: -- gives differential braking -- totally independent of the tail cone/tail wheel -- a fracture there still leaves you with steering -- simplifies rudder pedal/tail wheel construction -- brake master cylinders are more accessible for maintenance. I purchased the Great Plains Dual Hand Lever Master Cylinders, but they are heavier and bulkier than I expected. (I also have the GPASC toe brake cylinders. I need to decide soon which I am going to install.) Questions: What sources have people used for "Finger Brake" master cylinders? Where do you locate them? Any comments on cockpit ergonomics? Thanks for any help -- Mike Perry
At 04:41 AM 2/17/2008 +0000, Paul Fisher wrote:
Me too. 17.5 years on standard equipment. Independant finger brakes
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Re: Q1 Hydraulic Brakes - advice please
Richard Hole <rickhole@...>
In Velocity main gear we cover the nylaflow with plastic soda straws,
glass in place so the nylaflow is serviceable. Sorry guys I forgot that technique. --- In Q-LIST@..., dkeats <dkeats@...> wrote: the Mark 2 landing gear. After a few years and some abuse the nylaflowin place. I now slide the brake Nylaflow tubing into the larger tubing.from the start. ----- Canada Chris
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Re: Q1 Hydraulic Brakes - advice please
dkeats <dkeats@...>
When I built my Dragonlfy I imbeded the nylaflow in the canard to the Mark 2 landing gear. After a few years and some abuse the nylaflow cracked just where it came out of the canard. Because it was down at the time I replaced the tube with a much larger tube and floxed it in place. I now slide the brake Nylaflow tubing into the larger tubing. Easy to replace and has room top flex. Should of done it this way from the start. ----- Canada Chris
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Re: Nylaflow tubing poll
Richard Hole <rickhole@...>
Point is well taken. Un-ispectable and possibly damaged tubing, do not
reuse. Why take the needless risk. --- In Q-LIST@..., Isaksson Roger <scratchdeeper@...> wrote: anyones parade, and there are no reason to argue with something that have been experimented with and won.
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Re: Q1 Hydraulic Brakes - advice please
Larry Severson
At 04:09 PM 2/16/2008, you wrote:
Let's take a poll of long-term Q2 flyers. Has the Nylaflow brakeMurphy was an optimist. The question should not be who has had problems, but what would happen if you do? How are you going to repair the system that is embedded in the canard? Actually, as you assemble the plane, how are you going to repair things that go wrong? How easy will it be to take your instrument panel out to work on the instruments, OR remove the engine? QAC plans show how to build a plane that will NEVER need any work on it. Does that mean your plane won't? Larry Severson Fountain Valley, CA 92708 (714) 968-9852 larry2@...
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Re: Elevator Binding
Jon Finley <jon@...>
Hi Lynn,
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Nothing helpful, just some comments... I just had me elevators off for my condition inspection. My center pivot pins were slightly loose but no where close to falling out or being dangerous (my opinion). When installing my elevators (with the plane on it's gear), the alignment of the center pin is pretty close to right on. While reinstalling, I did have a question about lateral freeplay in the elevator pivot assembly and found that the plans call for .05" for the GU canard (page 10-10, item #9 on that page). Jon
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From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...]On Behalf Of LJFrench Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 11:07 AM To: Q-LIST@... Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Elevator Binding I would think the area you mention on the bracket would be the most suseptable to failure and that the hinge pin would be the most likely thing to start working loose on the elevator. It is hard for me to understand why we have not seen more problems in this area. Maybe it is a better design than appears on the surface. I had considered a slight vertical slot in the backet to allow for the flexing of the elevator torque tube, but that seems to have questions in my mind as well. Has anyone else experienced issues in this area or seen any variations of attachment? LJ French ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad/Iris Baerg" <brirbrg@...> To: <Q-LIST@...> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 11:33 PM Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Elevator Binding Group Quickie Builders Association WEB site http://www.quickiebuilders.org Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.7/1283 - Release Date: 2/16/2008 2:16 PM
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Re: Experimental!
Jon Finley <jon@...>
Well said Paul!
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Winds were too much for me yesterday but I got up for about an hour this morning. Flying is sssooooo much better than building and way better than thinking about building.... Jon
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From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...]On Behalf Of n17pf Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 1:52 PM To: Q-LIST@... Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: Experimental! Well, while you Darwin Award Contestants (DACs) continue to argue about the best way to kill yourselves, I actually went flying today! First time in over a month! We have been averaging snow every three days since December first. And of course we're expecting another 8-10 inches tomorrow (geez!). But today was a good day. Took an hour to shovel the snow out from in front of the hanger, but it was well worth it. Beautiful clear day, snow covered ground, and great visibility! The plane performed flawlessly. I didn't go anywhere in particular, but it was nice to get up off the ground for a while. To those of you who are trying to understand the bickering going on lately, just ignore it. If you want a nice plane to fly, go with the LS1 (thankfully you can still get spars), put an O-200 on it and build it per plans. Some mods have been proven and are worth doing (look up the Jim-Bob six pack). Trust me, that's the fastest way to get in the air and you'll end up with a great machine! For those DACs who want to re-invent the wheel and "fix" things that aren't broken - please take a nice photo of yourself and send it to Doug Humble. That will help him when he runs your obituary in the newsletter. Personally, I intend to ignore the debates and (if the weather cooperates) just fly the plane! Paul A. Fisher Taylor Ridge, Illinois Q-200 N17PF - 1335 hours in 17.5 years
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Re: Avionics Help
LJFrench <LJFrench@...>
Barry,
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Steve Roberts is the person who purchased your kit from me and he still has not picked it up. It is my guess that he may have lost interest. If so he might be willing to sell it back. Most of it is still here at my place. Regards, Lynn
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From: "BARRY AMANDA STEARNS" <stearns2559@...> To: <Q-LIST@...> Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 9:21 PM Subject: [Q-LIST] Avionics Help Greetings all. Some of you will recognize my name and some won't as I was a builder for a while and then had to sell my kit to afford changes in my life (getting married, buying a house, and having a son). Some may remember I was an Avionics Tech for 10 years and an Avionics Manager for a year here in Grand Island, Nebraska. However, I have stepped away from the post and have gone to work in another area, but would be very willing (now that I am not bound by my former employer/company) to help with an avionics questions or problem you are having. I do NOT have an A&P License (as most avionics techs that obtained their degrees in the late 90's) but would gladly do wire up for you and help with any install/tech questions you have. Emailing me is the best form of contact and if you need more info I'll gladly send you my cell phone number.
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Re: Nylaflow tubing poll
Isaksson Roger <scratchdeeper@...>
Experience winns, nylaflow it is, ..me no, but ok. I will not rain on anyones parade, and there are no reason to argue with something that have been experimented with and won.
I will humbly bow and yeald on this one. However , the original question was if he could use the existing nylaflow. Coming from wire operated breakes, the old "Flintsone breakes" , and going to hydraulic brakes. That would assume that the original lines have been previously used for a wire conduit. Now , reusing those, I am against. If there have been a wire going back and forth in those lines, there might very well be weak spots, from the wire eating into one side or the other. n17pf <FisherPaul@...> wrote: Me too. 17.5 years on standard equipment. Independant finger brakes (two masters cylinders). - Paul Q-200 N17PF 1335 hours --- In Q-LIST@..., MartinErni@... wrote: Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598) --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.
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Re: Nylaflow tubing poll
n17pf <FisherPaul@...>
Me too. 17.5 years on standard equipment. Independant finger brakes
(two masters cylinders). - Paul Q-200 N17PF 1335 hours --- In Q-LIST@..., MartinErni@... wrote: Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)
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Re: VW Engine starters
Dave Dugas
Hi Richard,
Glad you've got your Q running. My hangar is snowed in now, but as the weather warms up (if it ever does), I'll be at the airport more and more. Contact me whenever you're ready to come down, either on this list or my cell phone (413)772-9165, and I'll be glad to show you my Q2. Dave D. vt325xi <rlabarre@...> wrote: Dave from Orange MA. Thanks for the information. It seems as though there is no issue as the engine has fired right up. I posted it on YouTube and it appears to run fine. BTW, it has the fine wire aviation plugs and dual magnetos. Here's the link... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6owdAad-tp8 I would like to visit you sometime if you have an airworthy Quickie to look it over and see what you've done on yours that we can also do similar. I can fly down sometime. Let me know. I would be going with my Quickie partner in my Cessna 140. Thanks, Richard --- In Q-LIST@..., Dave Dugas <davedq2@...> wrote: and sells any part that you need. I switched to heads with automotive plugs, which cost about $650.00. I ran my engine with inserts for a while but they came out when I removed the spark plug. Does your engine have auto or aviation plugs? Where abouts in VT are you.....I'm based in Orange MA. Good luck.......Dave Dugas my mechanic and I are airplane partners are working on it. He is an A&P withright now and just got the engine back together after inpecting andSearch. --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
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Re: Q1 Hydraulic Brakes - advice please
jerry kennedy <jerrykennedy2001@...>
--- Peter Harris <peterjfharris@...> wrote:
No problems, original equipment 20 years.toe brakes. Jerry Kennedy Q2- 214FK
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Re: Experimental!
Steve <sham@...>
Amen
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Steve Ham
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From: n17pf To: Q-LIST@... Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 3:51 PM Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: Experimental! Well, while you Darwin Award Contestants (DACs) continue to argue about the best way to kill yourselves, I actually went flying today! First time in over a month! We have been averaging snow every three days since December first. And of course we're expecting another 8-10 inches tomorrow (geez!). But today was a good day. Took an hour to shovel the snow out from in front of the hanger, but it was well worth it. Beautiful clear day, snow covered ground, and great visibility! The plane performed flawlessly. I didn't go anywhere in particular, but it was nice to get up off the ground for a while. To those of you who are trying to understand the bickering going on lately, just ignore it. If you want a nice plane to fly, go with the LS1 (thankfully you can still get spars), put an O-200 on it and build it per plans. Some mods have been proven and are worth doing (look up the Jim-Bob six pack). Trust me, that's the fastest way to get in the air and you'll end up with a great machine! For those DACs who want to re-invent the wheel and "fix" things that aren't broken - please take a nice photo of yourself and send it to Doug Humble. That will help him when he runs your obituary in the newsletter. Personally, I intend to ignore the debates and (if the weather cooperates) just fly the plane! Paul A. Fisher Taylor Ridge, Illinois Q-200 N17PF - 1335 hours in 17.5 years
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Re: Q1 Hydraulic Brakes - advice please
Peter Harris <peterjfharris@...>
No problems, original equipment 20 years.
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Peter _____ From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...] On Behalf Of Mike Dwyer Sent: Sunday, 17 February 2008 10:47 AM To: Q-LIST@... Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: Q1 Hydraulic Brakes - advice please No problems, Airheart single lever. Mike Q200 N3QP 1000+ hours Richard Hole wrote:
Let's take a poll of long-term Q2 flyers. Has the Nylaflow brake
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Re: Q1 Hydraulic Brakes - advice please
Mike Dwyer <mdwyer@...>
No problems,
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Airheart single lever. Mike Q200 N3QP 1000+ hours Richard Hole wrote:
Let's take a poll of long-term Q2 flyers. Has the Nylaflow brake tubing caused difficulties due to ruptured lines, tubing blown off fittings, abraded through, etc. I am fairly new to Q2, but have seen this same tubing used extensively in other experimental designs successfully in service for 20+ years. Perhaps the old adage: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" may have some use here. One caveat: I would not use Nylaflow for a brake system which keeps the lines pressurized as a parking brake. The high pressure maintained over long periods of time just can't be all that good an idea...
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Re: Q1 Hydraulic Brakes - advice please
Rene Robertson <q2robertson@...>
No problems.
Q2 with original single lever hand Airheart brakes. 900+ hours Rene Q2 C-FBWV Richard Hole <rickhole@...> wrote: Let's take a poll of long-term Q2 flyers. Has the Nylaflow brake tubing caused difficulties due to ruptured lines, tubing blown off fittings, abraded through, etc. I am fairly new to Q2, but have seen this same tubing used extensively in other experimental designs successfully in service for 20+ years. Perhaps the old adage: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" may have some use here. One caveat: I would not use Nylaflow for a brake system which keeps the lines pressurized as a parking brake. The high pressure maintained over long periods of time just can't be all that good an idea... --------------------------------- Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr!
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