It might have been the weekend just before or after the flyin, since we stayed a week that year.
Larry

Mike Perry wrote:

Thanks Mike, you beat me to it.

On the drive home I couldn't help to feel good about the event and its
evolution. Although it's not dramatic, since our first year after moving
from the Tucson area (2000) the event has steadily grown and become more
successful.

With that I also thought that there is still PLENTY of room for improvement,
so I figure it would be best to get feedback, suggestions and volunteers.
This year the volunteer assistance was off the chart. With Mike coming
forward and offering coffee service all day long, to Sam who did a KILLER
job not only cooking, but putting the menu together on the fly.

So... I've put together yet another yahoo group for those of us interested
in working together to make this event all it can be.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MountainStates/

There we can consider the venue itself. I personally had no issues with the
bikers. Other than on the road, I really didn't even notice them. No trash
on my floor of the hotel, no bullets coming through the walls, floor or
ceiling of my clean, comfortable, quiet and CHEAP room, and no issues in the
casino proper, other than ambient cigarette smoke and blowing $30 in the
slots. The buffet wasn't a let-down by being worse than last year as
expected, but the resteraunt next door served an awesome (and cheap)
breakfast both days that I partook.

But if the place is too low-rent for everyone else, I'm not married to it.

As for the date, it's always an issue. Too early in the spring it's too
cold. (we had snow one year) Weeks later it can be too hot. This past
weekend was perfect in my estimation, but being on the heels of SnF, we lost
the ability to draw forum presenters who just couldn't make both events.

Don has always wanted to keep it after April 15th so we could have our taxes
out of the way, and we certainly can't have it on Easter or Mother's day.
The weekend of the 5th of May is out of the question as it would compete
with the Cinco de Mayo event that the EZ and Cozy folk have in Northern CA.
(but we could consider that) So this year, bike week was about all that was
left, and since bike week is a Laughlin/Bullhead event, I ASSumed that Las
Vegas (Jean) wouldn't be an issue.

...not to mention that we get the building for free (including the propane
used at the BBQ), and are even exempt from insurance.

So anyhow, if you'd like to help grow this event, please join the group and
add your 2¢ or more.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MountainStates/

Thanks!!!

Pat

Are both the legs splaying the same?

Yes

Is the track still the same as it was or has it widened?

Widened a lot.

If the legs have moved forward

Actually, I measured the leg distance from the firewall, and they did
not move forward as I first thought.

but the track is still the same, maybe the attachment saddles have broken?
Have you checked out the attachment points?

Yes. They are firm and show no cracks

I can't imagine that the legs have actually lost their stiffness,
especially both sides equally, and would suspect that something is broken.

There is a build up starting at the exit point from the fuse, so I
believe that the builder did put on the stiffening layers as per the
manual. However, the plane was in Arizona for a number of years.
Also, the problem appeared during the fly-in at jean, and has gotten
worse where it now is at Hesperia. High temp (>90 degrees may be the
problem), but I need to find a solution. At this point, I think that
I will support the plane with the wheels off the ground, sand down
the fiberglass, pull the legs in to the proper distance with straps,
and reapply new layers of uni stiffener per the plans. I am not confident!

Paul Buckley

----- Original Message -----
From: larry severson
To: <mailto:Q-LIST%40yahoogroups.com>Q-LIST@...
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 1:00 PM
Subject: [Q-LIST] TriQ problems

33LQ has decided to squat like a female dog. The main gear legs have
lost their stiffness. Has anyone had that problem. If so what did you
do to restore the gear function (stiffness - bow). The plane is now
truly a tail dragger, but without a wheel to protect it.

Larry Severson
Fountain Valley, CA 92708
(714) 968-9852
<mailto:larry2%40socal.rr.com>larry2@...

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Larry Severson
Fountain Valley, CA 92708
(714) 968-9852
larry2@...

Very interesting, and not a little disconcerting!

Are both the legs splaying the same?
Is the track still the same as it was or has it widened?
If the legs have moved forward but the track is still the same, maybe the attachment saddles have broken?
Have you checked out the attachment points?

I can't imagine that the legs have actually lost their stiffness, especially both sides equally, and would suspect that something is broken.

Paul Buckley

33LQ has decided to squat like a female dog. The main gear legs have lost their stiffness. Has anyone had that problem. If so what did you do to restore the gear function (stiffness - bow). The plane is now truly a tail dragger, but without a wheel to protect it.

Larry Severson
Fountain Valley, CA 92708
(714) 968-9852
larry2@...

1) People drank about 50 cups of regular coffee and 1 cup of decaf. "real
pilots use leaded fuel?" ;~) I do not plan to serve decaf next year
(organizers of other events may take note of my research).
(OK, used my yearly allotment of bad pilot jokes.)

Some of us can NOT drink regular coffee. I was given the choice of giving up spicy food, alcohol, or regular coffee. Guess which one I chose. As long as I drink only decaf, my medical problems are gone. (problem: time for a QUICK pattern before I have to hit the head.)


Larry Severson
Fountain Valley, CA 92708
(714) 968-9852
larry2@...

Hi Raoul. Glad I'm not the only one who's considered it. Let's hope someone can provide some expert advice.
Regards
Allan

Mike,
I guess you weren't there the year the gunfight broke out in the casino? I think that was the last year we went.
Larry & Patty Hamm

Mike Perry wrote:

There was a major fight with killings about 5 years ago in a Casino at
Laughlin. I thought we were there a different weekend that year. You
talking about a gunfight while we were at Laughlin?

I guess I'm blase about violence -- Vietnam, ERs, now I work in a
prison. Still, it doesn't contribute to the atmosphere I want for a fly-in.

Mike Perry

Thanks to Everyone, but especially Pat Panzera. I had a great time. I do
have a few ideas for next year:

1) People drank about 50 cups of regular coffee and 1 cup of decaf. "real
pilots use leaded fuel?" ;~) I do not plan to serve decaf next year
(organizers of other events may take note of my research).
(OK, used my yearly allotment of bad pilot jokes.)

2) We heard many rumors about the future of Jean Airport and vicinity. I
managed to corner an older hotel employee Saturday nite. The employees
were told the Goldstrike is scheduled to be closed in about 3 YEARS, not 3
months; and only after the Nevada Landing Casino is rebuilt. I think it's
likely we can use the airport at Jean again next year.
They are also talking about building some shops and other attractions --
maybe our wives/SOs will have something to do while we talk airplanes.

3) I would really like to avoid the weekend of the Laughlin river
run. Beer bottles in the hall and cigarettes stamped out on the carpet is
a little much. Perhaps the bikers weren't responsible for everything
dumped in the halls, but they certainly contributed, and the place got that
"we're in charge and we'll do whatever we want" atmosphere on Saturday. I
realize we must fit the schedule of our organizers and presenters, but I
would prefer to avoid Easter weekend and the river run.

(I'm always amused by the contrast between the casino crowd and the
airplane crowd. It's especially noticeable in the morning at the
Laughlin/Jean Fly-ins. I walk thru the halls at 7AM on my way to
breakfast, passing obviously drunk people who are just now heading for
bed! Nevada -- got to love it.)

Mike Perry

Hi Allan.I was wondering about extending that tail spring too but I have not gotten any good data on it. If you do get some let me know.Cheers Raoul

--- afarr@... wrote:

From: "Allan Farr" <afarr@...>
To: <Q-LIST@...>
Subject: [Q-LIST] Lay ups
Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 11:14:45 +1200

Thanks for the advice John, I may have been pushing too hard, but I do like my new rollering technique. Did you see my post about extending the tailwheel spring to improve ground stability? (by increasing the track) Seems obvious to me but I'm not an aeronautical engineer, and I know there could be good reasons for not doing it.
Regards
Allan
Q2

Thanks for the advice John, I may have been pushing too hard, but I do like my new rollering technique. Did you see my post about extending the tailwheel spring to improve ground stability? (by increasing the track) Seems obvious to me but I'm not an aeronautical engineer, and I know there could be good reasons for not doing it.
Regards
Allan
Q2

Bob,
I did some numbers this AM and agree with Lynn.
If I load my plane to gross, 1300# in my case, and fly with a 210 #
pax, 40# baggage, and burn off all the fuel except 18# in the header,
My CG will be aft of the the aft limit.
Again my battery is 16# at station 80.
Lynn recommended that I have some weight for first flight. I had a
50# bag riding with me.
Kevin Boddicker
Tri Q 200 N7868B 53.2 hours
Luana, IA.

Bob,
Just a data point here, if I move my battery as you state and plug the numbers in I would only be able to carry a 140 lb passenger with 25 lbs bags. I think what you are doing is fine for first flight testing. I have recommended to other first flight Tri Q'ers that they put extra weight in the baggage compartment or passenger seat for the very reason you are moving the battery. My point though is that you may want to leave the forward battery option available once you get experience and learn the characteristics of the plane.

Lynn French

Hi Allan,

two other things to try. Firstly make sure you have the right
Squeegee, and do not push so hard. It is a soft action, not an
excavation.

Secondly if the fibers get shifted, put them back, by smoothing along
the fibers ( with gloves!) and stippling resin in. The stuff is
expensive (in the antipodes)so get used to mixing the right amount.
Start with about the same weight of mixed resin as cloth and vary to
suit. Mix small batches - a couple of pumps of the resin pump(and
have a hairdryer close by to warm both the glass and the resin). Do
not use CinC Domestic's.....

You will find that you can wet out much faster when the temperature is
correct (- check it) and also if you put the resin on and leave it for
a minute or two then squeegee off the excess.

Regards

John


--- In Q-LIST@..., "Allan Farr" <afarr@...> wrote:

As someone new to fibreglassing I found that when I use a "squeegee"

to remove excess epoxy it would usually disrupt the fibres. Now I am
using a rubber wallpapering roller over paper towels (to mop up excess
epoxy) & it turns out perfect:)

Allan Farr

Phil,

Please get ahold of me asap. 510-468-4891.

Thanks
Jim P.

--- In Q-LIST@..., britmcman@... wrote:

Hello Sam:

Good to know you are an A&P. I don't have any secrets as to how

to keep an

Airheart master cylinder from leaking other than by following good

assembly

practice. I am still surprised at how really very qualified

people often make

very obvious lapses in good judgement or overlook a simple thing

like fluid

compatability.

If all else fails, don't put fluid in it.

Am I to understand that you might be coming to Jean? I'd love to

learn some

Spanish.

Cheers,

Phil



************************************** See what's free at

http://www.aol.com.

Ron,

Can you call asap? 510-468-4891

Jim P.

--- In Q-LIST@..., "Ron Weiss" <ronweiss4@...> wrote:

--Thanks Kevin for the pics, some good stuff there! Thanks for the
pics of your plane too Bob. I spent all day @%#$in with the whole
center consul and everything seems to be in order now. All this

help

has payed off once again. I'm eternally grateful! Ron- In Q-
LIST@..., "chris rayner" <chris-rayner@> wrote:

Paul, that's a shame. As I can't go to the Spring Fling either, I

was going to suggest I join your Grand Cayman lady friend..... ;)

Regards
Chris Rayner
----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Buckley
To: Q-LIST
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 11:43 AM
Subject: Fw: [Q-LIST] Tri Q Elevator Set Up


Oops!
Sorry guys, that was meant to be off list.

Paul Buckley

----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Buckley
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 10:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Tri Q Elevator Set Up

Morning Kev

I HAD intended to try for the Spring Fling but unfortunately I

have a guest arriving from Grand Cayman on the 20th.

She had told me that she was coming over in June, but when she

called me just before I received your message (like, a couple of
hours!) she told me that she had already booked her flight for the
19th of May, arriving the morning of the 20th.!!

Sods Law!

I really would have liked to have been there, but I am sure you

will all enjoy the event without me, though I know it will be
difficult!

Have fun Kev, and thanks for asking.....next time, hopefully.

Paul.

----- Original Message -----
From: Kevin Boddicker
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 12:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Tri Q Elevator Set Up

Paul,
Good to hear you are working on the plane.
I spoke too soon, but I will get some pics the next time I get

near

the hanger. Probably on Friday. I have a few, but they are very
confusing.
Are you planning to be in the States the 18, 19, 20 of May? You

could

attend the Spring Fling!!!
I will get the pics.

Kevin Boddicker
Tri Q 200 N7868B 52.2 hours
Luana, IA.

On Apr 25, 2007, at 11:15 AM, Paul Buckley wrote:

> Hi Kev
>
> I would like some pics of your mod, too.
> The linkage is my next job, and I was not looking forward to
> cutting into my tank.
>
> Paul Buckley
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kevin Boddicker
> To: Q-LIST@...
> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 2:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Tri Q Elevator Set Up
>
> Ron,
> I got a tip from another builder on this subject. I turned

the

stick

> up side down. That way the attach point is elevated. Then I

moved the

> holes in the elevator actuator arms up. It takes a bit of

playing

> around, but it works for me. Make sure you get full travel of

the

> elevator per the template. The now up end of the stick is

shorter

> than before, but my stick grip works fine. You will have to

reproduce

> the attach point "bushing" on the new end, and play with that

as well.

> It is my opinion that this mod also makes the stick less

sensitive in

> pitch. It takes more stick movement to actuate the elevators.
> If you would like some pics, let me know and I will try to

send some.

>
> Kevin Boddicker
> Tri Q 200 N7868B 52.2 hours
> Luana, IA.
>
> On Apr 25, 2007, at 2:02 AM, Ron Weiss wrote:
>
> > Has anyone done their elevator linkage per the Tri Q plans?

One rod

> > pivoting into two rods back to the elevators. If so, and it

works

> > well, I'd like to see it. I'm really tight on space and

don't feel

> > comfortabe with the elevator trim, rudder cable, and fuel

lines so

> > close together. Not to mention, I have a fuel sender

needing

to be

> > placed somewhere in there....Ron
> >
> >
> >
>
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--Thanks Kevin for the pics, some good stuff there! Thanks for the
pics of your plane too Bob. I spent all day @%#$in with the whole
center consul and everything seems to be in order now. All this help
has payed off once again. I'm eternally grateful! Ron- In Q-
LIST@..., "chris rayner" <chris-rayner@...> wrote:

Paul, that's a shame. As I can't go to the Spring Fling either, I

was going to suggest I join your Grand Cayman lady friend..... ;)

Regards
Chris Rayner
----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Buckley
To: Q-LIST
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 11:43 AM
Subject: Fw: [Q-LIST] Tri Q Elevator Set Up


Oops!
Sorry guys, that was meant to be off list.

Paul Buckley

----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Buckley
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 10:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Tri Q Elevator Set Up

Morning Kev

I HAD intended to try for the Spring Fling but unfortunately I

have a guest arriving from Grand Cayman on the 20th.

She had told me that she was coming over in June, but when she

called me just before I received your message (like, a couple of
hours!) she told me that she had already booked her flight for the
19th of May, arriving the morning of the 20th.!!

Sods Law!

I really would have liked to have been there, but I am sure you

will all enjoy the event without me, though I know it will be
difficult!

Have fun Kev, and thanks for asking.....next time, hopefully.

Paul.

----- Original Message -----
From: Kevin Boddicker
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 12:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Tri Q Elevator Set Up

Paul,
Good to hear you are working on the plane.
I spoke too soon, but I will get some pics the next time I get

near

the hanger. Probably on Friday. I have a few, but they are very
confusing.
Are you planning to be in the States the 18, 19, 20 of May? You

could

attend the Spring Fling!!!
I will get the pics.

Kevin Boddicker
Tri Q 200 N7868B 52.2 hours
Luana, IA.

On Apr 25, 2007, at 11:15 AM, Paul Buckley wrote:

> Hi Kev
>
> I would like some pics of your mod, too.
> The linkage is my next job, and I was not looking forward to
> cutting into my tank.
>
> Paul Buckley
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kevin Boddicker
> To: Q-LIST@...
> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 2:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Tri Q Elevator Set Up
>
> Ron,
> I got a tip from another builder on this subject. I turned the

stick

> up side down. That way the attach point is elevated. Then I

moved the

> holes in the elevator actuator arms up. It takes a bit of

playing

> around, but it works for me. Make sure you get full travel of

the

> elevator per the template. The now up end of the stick is

shorter

> than before, but my stick grip works fine. You will have to

reproduce

> the attach point "bushing" on the new end, and play with that

as well.

> It is my opinion that this mod also makes the stick less

sensitive in

> pitch. It takes more stick movement to actuate the elevators.
> If you would like some pics, let me know and I will try to

send some.

>
> Kevin Boddicker
> Tri Q 200 N7868B 52.2 hours
> Luana, IA.
>
> On Apr 25, 2007, at 2:02 AM, Ron Weiss wrote:
>
> > Has anyone done their elevator linkage per the Tri Q plans?

One rod

> > pivoting into two rods back to the elevators. If so, and it

works

> > well, I'd like to see it. I'm really tight on space and

don't feel

> > comfortabe with the elevator trim, rudder cable, and fuel

lines so

> > close together. Not to mention, I have a fuel sender needing

to be

> > placed somewhere in there....Ron
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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Hey,
Nice mug shot Sam.
Lynn