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Paul Buckley
 

Oops!
Sorry guys, that was meant to be off list.

Paul Buckley

----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Buckley
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 10:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Tri Q Elevator Set Up


Morning Kev

I HAD intended to try for the Spring Fling but unfortunately I have a guest arriving from Grand Cayman on the 20th.
She had told me that she was coming over in June, but when she called me just before I received your message (like, a couple of hours!) she told me that she had already booked her flight for the 19th of May, arriving the morning of the 20th.!!
Sods Law!

I really would have liked to have been there, but I am sure you will all enjoy the event without me, though I know it will be difficult!
Have fun Kev, and thanks for asking.....next time, hopefully.

Paul.

----- Original Message -----
From: Kevin Boddicker
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 12:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Tri Q Elevator Set Up

Paul,
Good to hear you are working on the plane.
I spoke too soon, but I will get some pics the next time I get near
the hanger. Probably on Friday. I have a few, but they are very
confusing.
Are you planning to be in the States the 18, 19, 20 of May? You could
attend the Spring Fling!!!
I will get the pics.

Kevin Boddicker
Tri Q 200 N7868B 52.2 hours
Luana, IA.

On Apr 25, 2007, at 11:15 AM, Paul Buckley wrote:

Hi Kev

I would like some pics of your mod, too.
The linkage is my next job, and I was not looking forward to
cutting into my tank.

Paul Buckley

----- Original Message -----
From: Kevin Boddicker
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Tri Q Elevator Set Up

Ron,
I got a tip from another builder on this subject. I turned the stick
up side down. That way the attach point is elevated. Then I moved the
holes in the elevator actuator arms up. It takes a bit of playing
around, but it works for me. Make sure you get full travel of the
elevator per the template. The now up end of the stick is shorter
than before, but my stick grip works fine. You will have to reproduce
the attach point "bushing" on the new end, and play with that as well.
It is my opinion that this mod also makes the stick less sensitive in
pitch. It takes more stick movement to actuate the elevators.
If you would like some pics, let me know and I will try to send some.

Kevin Boddicker
Tri Q 200 N7868B 52.2 hours
Luana, IA.

On Apr 25, 2007, at 2:02 AM, Ron Weiss wrote:

Has anyone done their elevator linkage per the Tri Q plans? One rod
pivoting into two rods back to the elevators. If so, and it works
well, I'd like to see it. I'm really tight on space and don't feel
comfortabe with the elevator trim, rudder cable, and fuel lines so
close together. Not to mention, I have a fuel sender needing to be
placed somewhere in there....Ron




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Re: Tri Q Elevator Set Up

Paul Buckley
 

Morning Kev

I HAD intended to try for the Spring Fling but unfortunately I have a guest arriving from Grand Cayman on the 20th.
She had told me that she was coming over in June, but when she called me just before I received your message (like, a couple of hours!) she told me that she had already booked her flight for the 19th of May, arriving the morning of the 20th.!!
Sods Law!

I really would have liked to have been there, but I am sure you will all enjoy the event without me, though I know it will be difficult!
Have fun Kev, and thanks for asking.....next time, hopefully.

Paul.

----- Original Message -----
From: Kevin Boddicker
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 12:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Tri Q Elevator Set Up


Paul,
Good to hear you are working on the plane.
I spoke too soon, but I will get some pics the next time I get near
the hanger. Probably on Friday. I have a few, but they are very
confusing.
Are you planning to be in the States the 18, 19, 20 of May? You could
attend the Spring Fling!!!
I will get the pics.

Kevin Boddicker
Tri Q 200 N7868B 52.2 hours
Luana, IA.

On Apr 25, 2007, at 11:15 AM, Paul Buckley wrote:

> Hi Kev
>
> I would like some pics of your mod, too.
> The linkage is my next job, and I was not looking forward to
> cutting into my tank.
>
> Paul Buckley
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kevin Boddicker
> To: Q-LIST@...
> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 2:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Tri Q Elevator Set Up
>
> Ron,
> I got a tip from another builder on this subject. I turned the stick
> up side down. That way the attach point is elevated. Then I moved the
> holes in the elevator actuator arms up. It takes a bit of playing
> around, but it works for me. Make sure you get full travel of the
> elevator per the template. The now up end of the stick is shorter
> than before, but my stick grip works fine. You will have to reproduce
> the attach point "bushing" on the new end, and play with that as well.
> It is my opinion that this mod also makes the stick less sensitive in
> pitch. It takes more stick movement to actuate the elevators.
> If you would like some pics, let me know and I will try to send some.
>
> Kevin Boddicker
> Tri Q 200 N7868B 52.2 hours
> Luana, IA.
>
> On Apr 25, 2007, at 2:02 AM, Ron Weiss wrote:
>
> > Has anyone done their elevator linkage per the Tri Q plans? One rod
> > pivoting into two rods back to the elevators. If so, and it works
> > well, I'd like to see it. I'm really tight on space and don't feel
> > comfortabe with the elevator trim, rudder cable, and fuel lines so
> > close together. Not to mention, I have a fuel sender needing to be
> > placed somewhere in there....Ron
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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Re: GU vortex generator update - New question

James Postma <james@...>
 

Yes. I had limited testing on it but results were similar to those with the GU. I mainly did runway flights and control was excellent.

For review of my results, please see my prior posts on VG's with the GU canard.

Briefly, the advantages are much better control at low speeds, stall speed (pitch buck) reduced below control authority (with stick full back, the canard did not stall at 60 mph), reduced runway requirement for landing (less than 2,000 feet).

James Postma
Steilacoom, Washington
(253) 584-1182 9:00 to 8:00 PDT
(253) 691-2979 cell
May your header tank be always full and your wings right side up.

----- Original Message -----
From: rebeccaandtad_simpson
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 8:21 PM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: GU vortex generator update - New question


If VG's have a number of benefits other than bug and rain control, has
anyone ever tried them on an LS1 ?


Re: GU vortex generator update

James Postma <james@...>
 

Rene,

Please send me the document.

I'm glad to see that the VG's are catching on. My experiences with mine were very positive.

James Postma
Steilacoom, Washington
(253) 584-1182 9:00 to 8:00 PDT
(253) 691-2979 cell
May your header tank be always full and your wings right side up.

----- Original Message -----
From: Rene Robertson
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 11:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: GU vortex generator update


Hi Guys,

I've uploaded to our group site pictures of the Voyager style VG's. The pictures are in a photo section in a folder called "Voyager VG's".
I have also uploded an autocad drawing of the VG into the files section called in a folder also called "Voyager VG's".
I have scanned in the techinical document of the design of these VG's as a pdf file. Unfortunately I cannot upload this document because it is over 7 Meg. Our files section is 99% full. I will send this document to anyone who would like to receive it.
Phil Lankford is looking at the possibility of making these VG's for a reasonable cost to the group. My cost was $100.00 per set when I had a minimum of 3 sets made. This cost was just for the laser cutting of them. I still had to bend the ends up myself.

I was able to pariticapate in a remeberance day (veteran's day) formation flypast over the Abbotsford Cenitaph last weekend. I've been fortunate to participate in over the last number of years. Again conditions were not favourable, but the VG's performed nicely. Haven't been up since because of the winter wet storm conditions we've been having here.

Regards
Rene
Q2 C-FBWV


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Spring Fling

Kevin Boddicker <trumanst@...>
 

Listers,
We are only three weeks away from the Spring Fling!
If you were not aware, it is being held in Iowa City IA.
May 18, 19, 20.
I would again request that if you are coming, please RSVP!! Even if
you are driving in. That way we can get a head count for Saturday
morning breakfast. Greg is cooking, word on the street is "He's Good".
The rest of the agenda is laid back. There may be a performance run,
it is not in stone yet.
Greg has indicated that there have been few if any reservations
made at the Alexis Park Inn. Reserve your room early. 319-337-8665
www.alexisparkinn.com If flying in ask about cancelation, they are
very flexible for fly in's. Drive in's need to cancel early if
necessary. But if you are driving in, why cancel at all? The owners
of the inn are our kind of people. Every room is an aviation theme
room. Very cool. They also have a very large flight simulator to play
with. They are thrilled that we are having the event near them, and
aim to accommodate us.
SO, get your RSVP's in, and reserve a room. It won't be much fun
without you.
DON'T make me send out personal invitations!!!

Kevin Boddicker
Tri Q 200 N7868B 52.2 hours
Luana, IA.


Re: now brakes etc ...

n02ez <Reggie@...>
 

The Parker Seal Company has a design Handbook for finding
the proper O-Ring size, fit, surface finish, groove size and
shape, seal fluid compatabiliy, and service use.

If you can measure the existing brake and cylinder dimensions
and use machinist ,surface finish sample strips to estimate
the surface finish , one can find a compatable O-Ring
from the many available..

I have handbooks here and have used them for designing O-Ring
grooves for over thirty years...Guess that makes it one OLD
book... :)

Reggie

http://www.parker.com/Catalogs/

http://www.parker.com/o-ring/Literature/00-5700.pdf
Section 5-2 and on..

******************************************************
"Sam Hoskins" <sam.hoskins@...> wrote:

Phil, what do you do to make them better?
I have had leaks, off and on,
over the years.

Sam
*************************************************
On 4/25/07, Doug Humble <hawkidoug@...> wrote:

Phil - if you are serious about my Airheart brakes, email me off
list at
HawkiDoug@... <HawkiDoug%40cox.net> and we'll talk.
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Re: Tri Q Elevator Set Up

Ron Weiss <ronweiss4@...>
 

--Thanks Guy's for the help. Kevin, pics would be greeeeaaat!
ronweiss4@... Ron- In Q-LIST@..., Kevin
Boddicker <trumanst@...> wrote:

Paul,
Good to hear you are working on the plane.
I spoke too soon, but I will get some pics the next time I get
near
the hanger. Probably on Friday. I have a few, but they are very
confusing.
Are you planning to be in the States the 18, 19, 20 of May? You
could
attend the Spring Fling!!!
I will get the pics.

Kevin Boddicker
Tri Q 200 N7868B 52.2 hours
Luana, IA.


On Apr 25, 2007, at 11:15 AM, Paul Buckley wrote:

Hi Kev

I would like some pics of your mod, too.
The linkage is my next job, and I was not looking forward to
cutting into my tank.

Paul Buckley

----- Original Message -----
From: Kevin Boddicker
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Tri Q Elevator Set Up

Ron,
I got a tip from another builder on this subject. I turned the
stick
up side down. That way the attach point is elevated. Then I
moved the
holes in the elevator actuator arms up. It takes a bit of playing
around, but it works for me. Make sure you get full travel of the
elevator per the template. The now up end of the stick is shorter
than before, but my stick grip works fine. You will have to
reproduce
the attach point "bushing" on the new end, and play with that as
well.
It is my opinion that this mod also makes the stick less
sensitive in
pitch. It takes more stick movement to actuate the elevators.
If you would like some pics, let me know and I will try to send
some.

Kevin Boddicker
Tri Q 200 N7868B 52.2 hours
Luana, IA.

On Apr 25, 2007, at 2:02 AM, Ron Weiss wrote:

Has anyone done their elevator linkage per the Tri Q plans?
One rod
pivoting into two rods back to the elevators. If so, and it
works
well, I'd like to see it. I'm really tight on space and don't
feel
comfortabe with the elevator trim, rudder cable, and fuel
lines so
close together. Not to mention, I have a fuel sender needing
to be
placed somewhere in there....Ron


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Re: Just starting out . . .

steveryh
 

Larry,

Nice that you have your son to help with the Q project. My son is
living in LA, and didn't sound over joyed about my idea of him
driving here every weekend for the next few years to work on my plane
(s).

Whenever you're in Vegas, be sure to give me a heads up. I know
MAGIC is a crazy time around town, but if you have some spare moments
I'm happy to show you the hidden gems around town. We have some
awesome restaurants that nobody would ever find.



--- In Q-LIST@..., "LARRY DURANT" <durantl@...> wrote:

Steve
Congratulations on picking up the kit from Canada.
I like you, am just starting out with a kit, recently acquired
local in
Colorado
Mine appears to have all the hardware, including the LS-1 package
and a few
other upgraded items.
Unfortunately, the GU canard was cut out of the foam.
My son and I have been pouring over the plans, newsletters, etc.,
trying to
define a starting place.
Have yet to join the QAB, but did attend a local EAA chapter, last
Friday.
Great group of folks and an invaluable resource. One of their
technical
advisers has built a Q200 and a member gave me a lead on a
revmaster not far
away.
My son is itching to get started. I'm itching from working on a
classic boat
project that was in the que, ahead of the Q. Almost had the floor
in before
the rain and subsequent snow hit the area.
Won't be able to attend the Jean Fly-in, but I do make Vegas twice
a year
for the MAGIC show.
I set up a trade show booth for one of the vendors.
Perhaps, we will have the chance to meet and talk planes.
Regards

Larry Durant




From: "steveryh" <yknot880@...>
Reply-To: Q-LIST@...
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: [Q-LIST] Just starting out . . .
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 02:04:14 -0000

Hello all . . .

I recently purchased a Q2/200 kit from eBay (where else). When it
finally arrived from Canada I was a bit disappointed to find almost
no hardware, and many other pieces missing. I had the LS1 spars,
but
template cut outs for GU canard (luckily, no foam has been cut
yet).

Being the traveling computer geek I am, I began reading everything
I
could find on the net - including joining the QBA. I went to their
Want Ads section, and promptly purchased the spare Q2/200 kit being
offered by Lynn French - Lynn, thanks for all the help so far!!

So, now I have 2 Q2's. More like 1 2/3, but anyway.

As with most of you, I'll be doing a hell of a lot more reading
before I start cutting anything. So, thanks in advance to all who
contribute on this board and on the QBA newsletter.

PS - as a lucky resident of Las Vegas, I'm looking forward to
meeting
a few of you this weekend at the Jean fly-in. If anyone needs
anything while in NV, feel free to drop a note.

Steve "the Dread Pirate" Roberts



Re: Brake Fluid / Rubber Compound Compatibility

Bob Moehlenkamp <bobmoeh@...>
 

I saved this article a while back. Thought it was interesting. I would
think Nylo tubing would melt and add to the fire.
Bob MO

This was posted on the Biplane Hangar Mailing list recently:
Bret - Biplane Hangar http://www.gf24.de/biplane/
<<Gang,
Had a brake fire on an RV-8A last weekend. Tidy combination of
operator error and design issues, much of which is specific to the 8A
and/or castering nosewheel, steer-with-the-brakes airplanes in
general. However, research did turn up a few items perhaps everyone
should know.

The fire started after an overheated caliper leaked fluid on a
hot disk. The fluid flashed and lit the resin in the fiberglass wheel
pant, as well as the tire sidewall. The brake worked fine, with only
slightly higher pedal pressure required even when on fire.
I've posted a photo to the vault (yep, a bystander had a digital
camera). In the photo, I'm holding pedal pressure while shutting down
for the fire crew. Note the fire on the ground under the pant,
believed to be fluid and dripping resin. I don't recall any
additional pedal travel.

When something like this happens I get curious. Why did the seal
leak at some temperature well below a failure temperature for the rest
of the brake? And why did the fluid catch fire?

Fast forward: It turns out the Cleveland piston seal for the
little 30-9 caliper is an ordinary MS28775-218 nitrile o-ring.
Nitrile's temperature rating is - 65F to +275 F. We found the seal to
be brittle and flaking when we dismantled the caliper. A caliper seal
with a 275 F temp limit is below automotive standards, but that's
another story.

As for fluid, Cleveland's tech manual specifies either Mil-H-5606
or Mil-H-83282 as acceptable. Both are listed in AC-43 and the A&P
texts. Turns out that Mil-H-83282 was created because the military
was tired of setting it's airplanes on fire. Mil-H-5606 is the
standard red hydraulic fluid sold by Spruce, Wicks, Chief, etc. It is
a petroleum base, and turns out to have a very low flash point. The
Mil-H-83282 is also red, and compatible with 5606 fluid as well as
seals created for 5606. However, it is a synthetic, with much higher
flash and burn points, and is self-extinguishing when removed from the
ignition source.

You can download complete specs for Aeroshell Fluid 41
(Mil-H-5606) and Aeroshell Fluid 31 (Mil-H-83282) at:

http://193.113.209.166/aeroshell/aeroshellhydraulicfluids.pdf

Note the flash points of the two fluids. Aeroshell 41 is 104 C,
which is only 219 F. Aeroshell 31 is 237 C, or 458 F.

A flash point of 219 F means that when a Cleveland caliper seal
fails at something above 275, the fluid is already hot enough to light
when it hits a hot disk and vaporizes inside the pant. Makes for an
interesting combination.

Live and learn. I always assumed standard "mil-spec red brake
fluid" was something special, and I doubt I was alone in this
assumption. It's not. It's just another one of those "always done it
that way" things prevalent with light airplanes. Note that the Shell
literature declines to even refer to it as brake fluid.

Spruce, etc, doesn't sell Mil-H-83282 fluid, but they should.
I've already ordeting combination.

Live and learn. I always assumed standard "mil-spec red brake
fluid" was something special, and I doubt I was alone in this
assumption. It's not. It's just another one of those "always done it
that way" things prevalent with light airplanes. Note that the Shell
literature declines to even refer to it as brake fluid.

Spruce, etc, doesn't sell Mil-H-83282 fluid, but they should.
I've already ordered a gallon of Fluid 31 from the local Shell
distributor. Since the old and new fluids are compatible, switching
is as easy as draining the old, flush with new, refill, and bleed.

Let's be careful out there.

<Dan

on 1/29/04 4:59 PM, PullSomeGs@... at PullSomeGs@... wrote:

A coworker has asked me to gather any information on wheel pant
fires for his friend who's Extra burned. Apparently he had a fuel
drain that exited on the wheel pant, which somehow caught fire. He is
having trouble with his insurance company and wants to have some other
cases of such an event to help his case. Seems like I remember this
happening to someone a few years ago. Any information is appreciated!


Re: Brake Fluid / Rubber Compound Compatibility

raoborg@...
 

Hi Sam. I have a new one that I am not going to use. I have put in toe brakes with Cleveland cylinders and a reservoir.I do not accept Mexican pesos though. Let me know Raoul

--- sam.hoskins@... wrote:

From: "Sam Hoskins" <sam.hoskins@...>
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Brake Fluid / Rubber Compound Compatibility
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 21:36:45 -0500

Phil, I'm an A&P. We do know things like fluid compatibility and pitted
surfaces.

Over the years I have both rebuilt and replaced the Airheart master
cylinders. One leaks, the other doesn't. I may pop for a brand gnu set,
just to see what happens.

Regards,

Sam

On 4/25/07, britmcman@... <britmcman@...> wrote:

Hello Sam:

I have not repaired Airhearts, but they must make a rebuild kit, and if
the
cylinders have pitted surfaces, they need to be honed just like any other
brake cylinder. I have done lots of Triumph car slave and master cylinders
in
this way. Gasket seals, compression seals, cylindrical cup seals - what
else
is there to do? How about use the appropriate rubber kit for the
appropriate
brake compound? According to published Airheart literature:


"...Make certain that the master cylinder you are using has the correct
seals to be compatible with the hydraulic fluid being used in the braking
system.
Master cylinders with EPR seals are designed for use with automotive brake

fluid which meets the standards of SAE-J-1703 and DOT-3. Master cylinders
with Buna-N seals are designed for use with mineral base "Red" hydraulic
fluid
which meets the standards of Mil-Spec. MIL-5606..."

There is better than a good chance the cylinders are fine but which have
at
some time been cross-contaminated with the incorrect brake fluid.

_http://www.airheart-brakes.com/partsheets_airheart.html_
(http://www.airheart-brakes.com/partsheets_airheart.html)

Cheers,

Phil



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Re: Brake Fluid / Rubber Compound Compatibility

Sam Hoskins
 

Phil, I'm an A&P. We do know things like fluid compatibility and pitted
surfaces.

Over the years I have both rebuilt and replaced the Airheart master
cylinders. One leaks, the other doesn't. I may pop for a brand gnu set,
just to see what happens.

Regards,

Sam

On 4/25/07, britmcman@... <britmcman@...> wrote:

Hello Sam:

I have not repaired Airhearts, but they must make a rebuild kit, and if
the
cylinders have pitted surfaces, they need to be honed just like any other
brake cylinder. I have done lots of Triumph car slave and master cylinders
in
this way. Gasket seals, compression seals, cylindrical cup seals - what
else
is there to do? How about use the appropriate rubber kit for the
appropriate
brake compound? According to published Airheart literature:


"...Make certain that the master cylinder you are using has the correct
seals to be compatible with the hydraulic fluid being used in the braking
system.
Master cylinders with EPR seals are designed for use with automotive brake

fluid which meets the standards of SAE-J-1703 and DOT-3. Master cylinders
with Buna-N seals are designed for use with mineral base "Red" hydraulic
fluid
which meets the standards of Mil-Spec. MIL-5606..."

There is better than a good chance the cylinders are fine but which have
at
some time been cross-contaminated with the incorrect brake fluid.

_http://www.airheart-brakes.com/partsheets_airheart.html_
(http://www.airheart-brakes.com/partsheets_airheart.html)

Cheers,

Phil



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Re: Construction Videos

Bob Moehlenkamp <bobmoeh@...>
 

I found the DVD and Larry Durant has spoken for it. Will pass it on
when he is done.
BTW, the DEADBEATS are no longer on this list. If you want to try to
get the tapes I'll pass on the contact info I have. One promised to
return them several times. The other never returned my Emails till he
quit the list 6 months ago. I kept hoping they would run across them
and feel guility. But, no luck.
Contact me direct.
Bob MO


--- In Q-LIST@..., <raoborg@...> wrote:

Keep me in mind too for the videos Bob. Let me know what's up. Thank
you Raoul

--- bobmoeh@... wrote:

From: "bobmoeh@..." <bobmoeh@...>
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] Construction Videos
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 06:52:43 GMT

Thanks for reminding me.
If you Newbies are interested, I have a 5 hour video of the
construction of a Q2/Q200. I know I have a DVD copy Dan was kind enough
to burn and return with the Vhs tapes. I'll look to see if I can find
it tomorrow or I can give you the names of two DEADBEATS (Jim P&
Mario)who never returned the copies they were loaned. Poor quality
copies, but very informative. Several members have borrowed, copied and
returned these tapes in the past. Maybe there is still another copy
available if my search fails.

Let me know if your interested.

Bob MO





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Re: Construction Videos

raoborg@...
 

Keep me in mind too for the videos Bob. Let me know what's up. Thank you Raoul

--- bobmoeh@... wrote:

From: "bobmoeh@..." <bobmoeh@...>
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] Construction Videos
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 06:52:43 GMT

Thanks for reminding me.
If you Newbies are interested, I have a 5 hour video of the
construction of a Q2/Q200. I know I have a DVD copy Dan was kind enough
to burn and return with the Vhs tapes. I'll look to see if I can find
it tomorrow or I can give you the names of two DEADBEATS (Jim P&
Mario)who never returned the copies they were loaned. Poor quality
copies, but very informative. Several members have borrowed, copied and
returned these tapes in the past. Maybe there is still another copy
available if my search fails.

Let me know if your interested.

Bob MO





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Re: Brake Fluid / Rubber Compound Compatibility

britmcman99
 

Hello Sam:

Good to know you are an A&P. I don't have any secrets as to how to keep an
Airheart master cylinder from leaking other than by following good assembly
practice. I am still surprised at how really very qualified people often make
very obvious lapses in good judgement or overlook a simple thing like fluid
compatability.

If all else fails, don't put fluid in it.

Am I to understand that you might be coming to Jean? I'd love to learn some
Spanish.

Cheers,

Phil



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Re: Tri Q Elevator Set Up

Kevin Boddicker <trumanst@...>
 

Paul,
Good to hear you are working on the plane.
I spoke too soon, but I will get some pics the next time I get near
the hanger. Probably on Friday. I have a few, but they are very
confusing.
Are you planning to be in the States the 18, 19, 20 of May? You could
attend the Spring Fling!!!
I will get the pics.

Kevin Boddicker
Tri Q 200 N7868B 52.2 hours
Luana, IA.

On Apr 25, 2007, at 11:15 AM, Paul Buckley wrote:

Hi Kev

I would like some pics of your mod, too.
The linkage is my next job, and I was not looking forward to
cutting into my tank.

Paul Buckley

----- Original Message -----
From: Kevin Boddicker
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Tri Q Elevator Set Up

Ron,
I got a tip from another builder on this subject. I turned the stick
up side down. That way the attach point is elevated. Then I moved the
holes in the elevator actuator arms up. It takes a bit of playing
around, but it works for me. Make sure you get full travel of the
elevator per the template. The now up end of the stick is shorter
than before, but my stick grip works fine. You will have to reproduce
the attach point "bushing" on the new end, and play with that as well.
It is my opinion that this mod also makes the stick less sensitive in
pitch. It takes more stick movement to actuate the elevators.
If you would like some pics, let me know and I will try to send some.

Kevin Boddicker
Tri Q 200 N7868B 52.2 hours
Luana, IA.

On Apr 25, 2007, at 2:02 AM, Ron Weiss wrote:

Has anyone done their elevator linkage per the Tri Q plans? One rod
pivoting into two rods back to the elevators. If so, and it works
well, I'd like to see it. I'm really tight on space and don't feel
comfortabe with the elevator trim, rudder cable, and fuel lines so
close together. Not to mention, I have a fuel sender needing to be
placed somewhere in there....Ron




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Brake Fluid / Rubber Compound Compatibility

britmcman99
 

Hello Sam:

I have not repaired Airhearts, but they must make a rebuild kit, and if the
cylinders have pitted surfaces, they need to be honed just like any other
brake cylinder. I have done lots of Triumph car slave and master cylinders in
this way. Gasket seals, compression seals, cylindrical cup seals - what else
is there to do? How about use the appropriate rubber kit for the appropriate
brake compound? According to published Airheart literature:


"...Make certain that the master cylinder you are using has the correct
seals to be compatible with the hydraulic fluid being used in the braking system.
Master cylinders with EPR seals are designed for use with automotive brake
fluid which meets the standards of SAE-J-1703 and DOT-3. Master cylinders
with Buna-N seals are designed for use with mineral base "Red" hydraulic fluid
which meets the standards of Mil-Spec. MIL-5606..."

There is better than a good chance the cylinders are fine but which have at
some time been cross-contaminated with the incorrect brake fluid.


_http://www.airheart-brakes.com/partsheets_airheart.html_
(http://www.airheart-brakes.com/partsheets_airheart.html)

Cheers,

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Re: Thanks to someone; now brakes etc ...

Sam Hoskins
 

Phil, what do you do to make them better? I have had leaks, off and on,
over the years.

Sam

On 4/25/07, Doug Humble <hawkidoug@...> wrote:

Phil - if you are serious about my Airheart brakes, email me off list at
HawkiDoug@... <HawkiDoug%40cox.net> and we'll talk.

Doug "Hawkeye" Humble
A Sign Above www.asignabove.net
Omaha NE
N25974
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To: Q-LIST@... <Q-LIST%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 10:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Thanks to someone; now brakes etc ...

Send your Airheart Heartbreaks to :

Phil Lankford
780 Cassou Road
San Marcos, CA 92069

I'll dial 'em in and use them.

Cheers,

Phil

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Re: Tri Q Elevator Set Up

Paul Buckley
 

Hi Kev

I would like some pics of your mod, too.
The linkage is my next job, and I was not looking forward to cutting into my tank.

Paul Buckley

----- Original Message -----
From: Kevin Boddicker
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Tri Q Elevator Set Up


Ron,
I got a tip from another builder on this subject. I turned the stick
up side down. That way the attach point is elevated. Then I moved the
holes in the elevator actuator arms up. It takes a bit of playing
around, but it works for me. Make sure you get full travel of the
elevator per the template. The now up end of the stick is shorter
than before, but my stick grip works fine. You will have to reproduce
the attach point "bushing" on the new end, and play with that as well.
It is my opinion that this mod also makes the stick less sensitive in
pitch. It takes more stick movement to actuate the elevators.
If you would like some pics, let me know and I will try to send some.

Kevin Boddicker
Tri Q 200 N7868B 52.2 hours
Luana, IA.

On Apr 25, 2007, at 2:02 AM, Ron Weiss wrote:

> Has anyone done their elevator linkage per the Tri Q plans? One rod
> pivoting into two rods back to the elevators. If so, and it works
> well, I'd like to see it. I'm really tight on space and don't feel
> comfortabe with the elevator trim, rudder cable, and fuel lines so
> close together. Not to mention, I have a fuel sender needing to be
> placed somewhere in there....Ron
>
>
>








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Re: Thanks to someone; now brakes etc ...

Doug Humble <hawkidoug@...>
 

Just to clarify, I still have finger brakes and like them very well.

Doug "Hawkeye" Humble
A Sign Above www.asignabove.net
Omaha NE
N25974

----- Original Message -----
From: chris rayner
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 8:46 AM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Thanks to someone; now brakes etc ...


Doug, I suspected that might be the case. I'll stick with Airheart for now and make sure I have a cloth to wipe up before putting seats in....
Chris Rayner
----- Original Message -----
From: Doug Humble
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 12:18 AM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Thanks to someone; now brakes etc ...

Chris, some have used Airheart brakes with no leaking. I was not one of those lucky people. I rebuilt one twice and then bought a new one to replace it. It leaked just like the other ones. I finally gave up and replaced them with brakes from Great Plains. However, they have a smaller diameter pad and I would not recommend them for the Q200. They will not hold my bird still at full static throttle, but they are fine for slowing the plane down. Bigger pads would be better. But they have never leaked!!!! I have lots of Airheart parts to bring to a fly-in sometime to sell to the next victim. Maybe I was doing something wrong or they just didn't like me???

Doug "Hawkeye" Humble
A Sign Above www.asignabove.net
Omaha NE
N25974
----- Original Message -----
From: chris rayner
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 3:07 PM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Thanks to someone; now brakes etc ...

Richard, yes indeedee. So far six flights - total 2 1/2 hours - two flights with me as "essential observer". Today's "adjustments" were to open up the cooling air intakes and replace a brake master cylinder.
Incidentally - do Airheart brake master cylinders always leak a bit?
I have done about 4 hours taxying at various speeds. I reckon that if I did not have independent, finger operated brakes, I would have hit fence posts about 4 times by now. I don't have much experience yet, but I don't think my feet would be sensitive or quick enough or certain enough on the brakes. I would get confused between rudder pushing and brake pushing when busy. Independent brakes (to me) are a no-brainer.
Chris
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Thomson
To: Q-LIST
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 6:25 PM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Re:Thanks to someone...

So Chris,
Does that mean you have been off the ground yet in your Q or are you still
building up to it ?

Richard Thomson
Weston s Mare , UK
Tri-Q G-BMFN (Approaching Re-birth)
richard@...


Re: Thanks to someone; now brakes etc ...

chris rayner <chris-rayner@...>
 

Phil, see my reply to Doug.... they work but they leak!
Chris

----- Original Message -----
From: britmcman@...
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 4:10 AM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Thanks to someone; now brakes etc ...


Send your Airheart Heartbreaks to :

Phil Lankford
780 Cassou Road
San Marcos, CA 92069

I'll dial 'em in and use them.

Cheers,

Phil

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