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Re: Nose gear weight

Larry Severson
 

I just found my W&B info which shows that old gear weighed 13lbs at 9"
forward of firewall, new gear weighed 17lbs at 3" forward of firewall - that
would include the wheel.
Interesting. My plane is extremely nose heavy, and the weight added with the new gear equaled a 28lb increase with the same wheel and rim.
The setup I received included a fork that was solid aluminum heavy and long enough to support the Velocity XL. I wonder if I got the wrong fork?


Larry Severson
Fountain Valley, CA 92708
(714) 968-9852
larry2@...


Spring Flyin

Joseph M Snow <1flashq@...>
 

Hi Darrell,

I have already configured my Q with dual controls; but the aircraft has not flown its 40 hours. The problem is that I would like to fly in another Q200 with dual controls for some hands on experience prior to starting the flight testing phase.

I have two rides (much appreciated) and some data on a/c configuration during various phases of flight, e.g. T.O., cruise, pitch buck, traffic pattern, final approach, and touchdown. The Q200's in which I have ridden did not have dual controls. As a passenger, I can do turns, climbs, descents, and pitch bucks while the pilot manages the throttle, rudder, reflexor, belly board. And I can observe the the takeoff and landing. With a dual controlled Q200, I could "ride the controls" to feel the pilot's input during flight phases, and so gain valuable experience in the management of my a/c. While instructing my students, I have them ride the controls so that they will gain tactile experience along with visual, auditory, kinesetic input during the instruction.

Further, I could use some more data as there are differences of opinion on reflexor positioning as well as diffenceces in aircraft. I have posted a chart in the Q-list Photo section which contains a chart of the data desired. If anyone would be willing to complete this chart (for their a/c: Q, Q2,Q2xxTri-Q2, etc. and mail it to me (19101 South Lakeshore Blvd, Euclid, Ohio 44119). See album CorvairQxx http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/Q-LIST/photos I will compile responses and make them available to the list. I have some responses already from the Emporia, Ka. flyin last fall and from Livermore, Ca. in December.

It has been recommended that I acquire taildragger experience. I am arranging a taildragger endorsement in a cub. An EAA aquaintence has a Texas taildragger (C150 with 180hp, controllable pitch prop, conventional gear) in which I can get some dual experience. I have found a Pitts resource in Pa. ($217/hr.!!). I am looking for other possibilities.

Thanks,
Joseph Snow, CFII
CorvairQ2xx
N240JS


Tandem Wing Fly-in

Patrick Panzera <panzera@...>
 

Just a reminder...

The Mountain States Tandem Wing Fly-in is only three weeks away!

www.mountainstatesfly-in.com

Flights to Las Vegas from just about anywhere are still cheap.
The airport at Jean NV (where the event is held) is only 20 miles south of
McCarran (LV international).

Pat


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Re: Off Topic - Sun 'n Fun

Doug Humble <hawkidoug@...>
 

The Quickie Forum is scheduled for Wed. morning, April 18th at 10 AM in tent #6. Check when you get there to see if they have changed it.

Doug "Hawkeye" Humble
A Sign Above www.asignabove.net
Omaha NE
N25974

----- Original Message -----
From: garymeakin
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 10:49 AM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Off Topic - Sun 'n Fun


I'm in Florida on a mixture of business and pleasure over the next
couple of weeks and planning to visit Sun 'n Fun on the 21st and
possibly 22nd. It would be nice to meet some of you chaps if you're
there. I dont know if my mobile will work there but, here's my number
anyway: 4407894742392.

I'm in Tampa from 11th to 13th on business, then off to Ormond Beach
to get some spam can flying in. I have a 25 hour block booking, so
any one wanting to be a passenger once I have my sign off would be
welcome. Back in Tampa on 21st and returning to rainy Britain on 22nd.

Gary Meakin
Still repairing SuperQuickie 1 G-BKFM


Re: User Fees

Kevin Boddicker <trumanst@...>
 

I tried the url before I sent it and it worked. When I got the
message from the list, it did not work. I went to tiny url and
hopefully fixed it.

http://tinyurl.com/35qo3n

Kevin Boddicker
Tri Q 200 N7868B 48.6 hours
Luana, IA.

On Apr 6, 2007, at 10:16 AM, Kevin Boddicker wrote:

I know this has nothing to do with building Q's, but it has a lot to
do with flying them.
It is a video report about user fees in the UK and Europe. AOPA is
trying to defend GA from user fees. Support them. If you are not a
member, consider it. It's a numbers game. The more members they have
the more clout they have it Washington.
David Chalmers spoke with me and Lynn French a few years ago at OSH
about the fees, and how restricting they are. And warned we keep our
selves alert to the proposals here. It's not too late to get this
user fee proposal killed.
I know that most quickie guys built it because it is economical, and
as for myself, I'm cheap. I would hazard a guess there are others.
Take action or PAY.

http://flash.aopa.org/pilot_media_viewer/media/0704userfees/files/
video2.html

Kevin Boddicker
Tri Q 200 N7868B 48.6 hours
Luana, IA.





Off Topic - Sun 'n Fun

garymeakin <garye.meakin@...>
 

I'm in Florida on a mixture of business and pleasure over the next
couple of weeks and planning to visit Sun 'n Fun on the 21st and
possibly 22nd. It would be nice to meet some of you chaps if you're
there. I dont know if my mobile will work there but, here's my number
anyway: 4407894742392.

I'm in Tampa from 11th to 13th on business, then off to Ormond Beach
to get some spam can flying in. I have a 25 hour block booking, so
any one wanting to be a passenger once I have my sign off would be
welcome. Back in Tampa on 21st and returning to rainy Britain on 22nd.

Gary Meakin
Still repairing SuperQuickie 1 G-BKFM


User Fees

Kevin Boddicker <trumanst@...>
 

I know this has nothing to do with building Q's, but it has a lot to
do with flying them.
It is a video report about user fees in the UK and Europe. AOPA is
trying to defend GA from user fees. Support them. If you are not a
member, consider it. It's a numbers game. The more members they have
the more clout they have it Washington.
David Chalmers spoke with me and Lynn French a few years ago at OSH
about the fees, and how restricting they are. And warned we keep our
selves alert to the proposals here. It's not too late to get this
user fee proposal killed.
I know that most quickie guys built it because it is economical, and
as for myself, I'm cheap. I would hazard a guess there are others.
Take action or PAY.

http://flash.aopa.org/pilot_media_viewer/media/0704userfees/files/
video2.html

Kevin Boddicker
Tri Q 200 N7868B 48.6 hours
Luana, IA.


Re: Spring Fly In

Darrell Daniels <log@...>
 

There are dual controls out there. You can get the drawing off of the Q web site. Darrell

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph M Snow" <1flashq@...>
To: <Q-LIST@...>
Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 12:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: Spring Fly In


Thanks for the suggestion. Will consider. I am beginning to think there are no dual control Q200's out there.

Joseph

britmcman@... wrote:
Why not come out to the Mountain States Fly-in. There will be plenty of Qs
and Ds there. A cheap plane ticket to Las Vegas and a 20 mile trip gets you
to Jean, Nevada for the April 27, 28, 29 event and it includes an alternative
engine forum. I am not too sure about any dual control birds out this way,
but Las Vegas is all about "Gettin' Lucky".

Phil

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Re: Spring Fly In

Joseph M Snow <1flashq@...>
 

Thanks for the suggestion. Will consider. I am beginning to think there are no dual control Q200's out there.

Joseph

britmcman@... wrote:
Why not come out to the Mountain States Fly-in. There will be plenty of Qs
and Ds there. A cheap plane ticket to Las Vegas and a 20 mile trip gets you
to Jean, Nevada for the April 27, 28, 29 event and it includes an alternative
engine forum. I am not too sure about any dual control birds out this way,
but Las Vegas is all about "Gettin' Lucky".

Phil

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Nose gear weight

David Chalmers <David@...>
 

Someone wanted to know the difference in weight between old and new nose
gear. I just found my W&B info which shows that old gear weighed 13lbs at 9"
forward of firewall, new gear weighed 17lbs at 3" forward of firewall - that
would include the wheel.

Dave Chalmers
TriQ200 N4016G 250hrs
Redmond WA


Re: Spring Fly In

Joseph M Snow <1flashq@...>
 

OOps. My Bad..

Will there be anyone going to the May 18-19-20, Iowa City, Q flyin with a Q200 (Q2 + O200 + conventional gear) with dual controls? I would like to get some dual experience.

Joseph Snow
CorvairQ2xx
N240JS


Kevin Boddicker <trumanst@...> wrote:
Joseph,
You have the wrong dates.
It is time to announce this years spring fly in.
When: May 18-19-20
Where: Iowa City, Iowa
Why: FUN

Kevin Boddicker
Tri Q 200 N7868B 48.6 hours
Luana, IA.

On Apr 5, 2007, at 1:30 PM, Joseph M Snow wrote:


Will there be anyone going to the April, Iowa City, Q flyin with a
Q200 (Q2 + O200 + conventional gear) with dual controls? I would
like to get some dual experience.

Joseph Snow
CorvairQ2xx
N240JS





Re: Spring Fly In

britmcman99
 

Why not come out to the Mountain States Fly-in. There will be plenty of Qs
and Ds there. A cheap plane ticket to Las Vegas and a 20 mile trip gets you
to Jean, Nevada for the April 27, 28, 29 event and it includes an alternative
engine forum. I am not too sure about any dual control birds out this way,
but Las Vegas is all about "Gettin' Lucky".

Phil



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Re: Spring Fly In

Kevin Boddicker <trumanst@...>
 

Joseph,
You have the wrong dates.
It is time to announce this years spring fly in.
When: May 18-19-20
Where: Iowa City, Iowa
Why: FUN

Kevin Boddicker
Tri Q 200 N7868B 48.6 hours
Luana, IA.

On Apr 5, 2007, at 1:30 PM, Joseph M Snow wrote:


Will there be anyone going to the April, Iowa City, Q flyin with a
Q200 (Q2 + O200 + conventional gear) with dual controls? I would
like to get some dual experience.

Joseph Snow
CorvairQ2xx
N240JS





triQ W&B

Larry Severson
 


Does anyone have a TriQ W&B spread sheet?
Larry Severson
Fountain Valley, CA 92708
(714) 968-9852
larry2@...


Re: Spring Fly In

Joseph M Snow <1flashq@...>
 

Will there be anyone going to the April, Iowa City, Q flyin with a Q200 (Q2 + O200 + conventional gear) with dual controls? I would like to get some dual experience.

Joseph Snow
CorvairQ2xx
N240JS


"Understanding Hand Tools" - off topic

Joseph M Snow <1flashq@...>
 

Note: forwarded message attached.


Re: Amsoil Racer+

Jim Patillo
 

Jim M,

For a little more historical perspective, I had just flown with Tom
in the yellow factory Q2 in Mojave a couple of weeks before his
crash. Tom was very excited about "Big Bird" but many of us had
concerns for his safety at the time. As you will recall, it was a
very sad day when we all heard the news!

Jim P. Q200 N46JP

--- In Q-LIST@..., JMasal@... wrote:


In a message dated 4/3/2007 10:26:59 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
sham@... writes:

To those who question the use of higher HP engines on the Q-1
should take a
look at the Amsoil Racer.



Interesting... and I might add:

To those intending to safely USE higher HP engines on the Q-1
should take a
look at Burt Rutan's curriculum vitae compared to their own
before starting.

Historical note: In the beginning... there was a great deal of
hubris
floating around the QAC/RAF ramp at Mojave. The Q2/200 design
started with a
Canadian plumbing contractor who completed an early Q1. QAC got
rights to US kit
sales. Rutan got ticked off about it (I have my ideas why) but
thought better of
it and backed away, Cordial relations were strained. Rutan started
design
work on a round-the-world flight. Curiously, Tom Jewett did
likewise. The
Jewett craft called BIG BIRD was nothing like a Q. It was a
conventional design
with Schweitzer sailplane wings (I think all wet wings) and a
conventional
T-tail. He planned to beat Burt to the punch. Hubris. On a test
flight, the BB
crashed killing Jewett. I remember Dick Rutan telling that he was
out jogging
at the time and saw the event happen. He believed he saw the
cause. And then a
totally original and purpose-built design won out over a cobbled
together
airframe.
Insert your moral of the story
here:________________________________________________________

j.




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Re: Amsoil Racer+

JMasal@...
 

In a message dated 4/3/2007 10:26:59 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
sham@... writes:

To those who question the use of higher HP engines on the Q-1 should take a
look at the Amsoil Racer.



Interesting... and I might add:

To those intending to safely USE higher HP engines on the Q-1 should take a
look at Burt Rutan's curriculum vitae compared to their own before starting.

Historical note: In the beginning... there was a great deal of hubris
floating around the QAC/RAF ramp at Mojave. The Q2/200 design started with a
Canadian plumbing contractor who completed an early Q1. QAC got rights to US kit
sales. Rutan got ticked off about it (I have my ideas why) but thought better of
it and backed away, Cordial relations were strained. Rutan started design
work on a round-the-world flight. Curiously, Tom Jewett did likewise. The
Jewett craft called BIG BIRD was nothing like a Q. It was a conventional design
with Schweitzer sailplane wings (I think all wet wings) and a conventional
T-tail. He planned to beat Burt to the punch. Hubris. On a test flight, the BB
crashed killing Jewett. I remember Dick Rutan telling that he was out jogging
at the time and saw the event happen. He believed he saw the cause. And then a
totally original and purpose-built design won out over a cobbled together
airframe.
Insert your moral of the story
here:________________________________________________________

j.




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Re: Rutan Model 68 Amsoil Racer

RICHARD GLIMES
 

Hi Dave; I wonder what happened to the set of plans and the rights to build two Rutan Model 68 aircraft Dan Mortensen paid Rutan 6600 dollars for in 1979. Only one was build,meaning ownership of those plans one could build an updated model 68. Also a lot of answers to upgrading the HP on the Quickie and answers to the T-tail question. An upgraded Quickie would make an interesting airplane. Instead of an IO-320,a IO-240 putting the Model 68 in the 180-200 MPH range would be
like a Quickie on Steroids. Best Regards,Richard Glimes

QuickieFlying <quickieflying@...> wrote:
I've actually talked to Dan Mortensen several times over the years (last time being around 1996) and
talked about the racer. Once on a flight back to Mohave from the east after talking to Burt on the
phone, Dan asked what the VNE was and Burt said "well I don't really know" so Dan ran it down hill
on the way back over Arizona and took it to 280 mph IAS something like 320 TAS, and told Burt about
it,, Burt replied "well that's VNE then". The plane was a bit over built and the 0-320 put out more
than the 160 HP it was suppose to put out. The tail was on the plane to meet the class rules, but
did add a bit of stability. Last I knew Dan was flying freight in the Midwest. I don't know what
the MGM hotel did with the racer, but tried to find out from the designer that was remodeling it a
few years back while I was in Vegas.

David Hiatt
N3223X Q-200


Rutan Model 68 was in concept 1979 using the design of the Rutan model 54 Quickie sports biplane as
a design aid. Model 68 Amsoil Racer had a canard,main wing like the Quickie. It also had an
additional horizontal flight surface in the form of a T-tail . 22 ft. lenght,22 ft. wing span
,takeoff weight of 1126 pounds,IO-320 engine with a top speed of 236MPH. It had nothing to do with
the Q-2,or Q-200 both of which were not Rutan aircraft designs to my knowlege.

For more information www.en.wipedia.org/wiki AMSOIL_RACER for complete Amsoil Racer history.