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New listing at the QBA web site

Doug Humble <hawkidoug@...>
 

Lynn French has a Q2/200 kit for sale at the QBA web site. He also has a link to other items for sale. Check it out!

https://plus2.safe-order.net/quickiebuilders//forsale.html

Doug "Hawkeye" Humble
A Sign Above www.asignabove.net
Omaha NE
N25974


Re: metal adhesive

britmcman99
 

With that much contact area and a likelihood of the two parts being flexed
about, any good contact cement would probably do. But try Eastwood catalog #
31087 No Weld Panel Adhesive Replacement.
_http://www.eastwoodco.com/jump.jsp?itemID=1654&itemType=PRODUCT_
(http://www.eastwoodco.com/jump.jsp?itemID=1654&itemType=PRODUCT)

Cheers,

Phil


Re: Off Topic - SIU girl makes good!

Allan Farr <afarr@...>
 

Thanks - so she looked after students at Southern Illinois University.
AF

----- Original Message -----
From: Larry Hamm
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Monday, 11 December 2006 09:19
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Off Topic - SIU girl makes good!


"Alma mater is Latin for "nourishing mother". It was used in ancient
Rome as a title for the mother goddess, and in Medieval Christianity for
the Virgin Mary.

It is now a term mainly used in academia Ś as a sobriquet for the
university or college a person has attended. This usage is taken from
the full name ("Alma Mater Studiorum UniversitÓ di Bologna") of the
oldest European university, the University of Bologna." (Wikipedia)

Now, if she just builds and flies a Quickie, she'll really have it made!

Larry Hamm

Allan Farr wrote:

> Yes it is definitely cool, but what's an "alma mater"?
> Allan F
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Sam Hoskins
> To: Quickie List
> Sent: Monday, 11 December 2006 01:29
> Subject: [Q-LIST] Off Topic - SIU girl makes good!
>
>
> I know this is off topic, but I just had to brag a little about my alma
> mater, Southern Illinois University.
>
> Joan Higginbotham, a 1987 SIU electrical engineering grad, is currently
> circling the earth, repairing the Space station. Pretty darn cool. I have
> never met her but we're pretty proud of her.
>
> http://www.jsc.nasa.gov/Bios/htmlbios/higginbo.html
>
> http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/main/index.html
>
> Regards,
>
> Sam Hoskins - Q-200
>
> Currently limited to the troposphere
>
> www.samhoskins.blogspot.com
>
> http://home.mchsi.com/~shoskins/index.htm
>




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Re: Off Topic - SIU girl makes good!

Bruce Crain
 

Good job SIU! Sammy you will have to offer her a ride in a real
aircraft when you get the chance!
Bruce




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Re: First flight

Bruce Crain
 

Sweeeeeeeeeeeet!!!!!! You're gonna' love it!
Now get Paul Buckley from Cheshire to finish his and you will have a
formation "wing nut".
Bruce Crain
N96BJ




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Re: First flight

chris rayner <chris-rayner@...>
 

Thanks guys - it's a good feeling. Looking forward to my turn. Not many details about the flight because there was no "supporting engineer" to make notes. I expect to be aboard next time for the measurements. The oil reached about 225F, but it was after several taxi runs and also a long continuous climb. Plus the prop is too fine so it was turning about 2600 at 160mph or so - it's a nominal 60x66. We''ll probably leave it for the early flights as it was climbing at around 1500 fpm. I have another prop (60x70) which I'll probably fit after testing - should improve top end and stop over-revving. First things first though - I need to add a bit more +ve camber and a bit more toe out to try to improve tracking - not bad, but could be better. Also cowls off and check things.
With the storms we have at the moment, next flight might be a while....
Chris Rayner

----- Original Message -----
From: Ron
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 3:44 AM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: First flight


--- In Q-LIST@..., "chris rayner" <chris-rayner@...> wrote:
>
> Guys, I am delighted to report that today at just after 15:00 GMT, Q-
200 G-CUIK made a successful first flight under the expert command of
Gary McKirdy from Enstone in UK. The slow progress of more than seven
years building and some hours taxying, finished up with a 27 minute
(not the one circuit I was expecting) flight. So now it's time for a
good, cowlings off inspection before continuing with the flight tests.
> I'm patient (anyone who builds one of these is), but sure looking
forward to my turn....
> Chris Rayner Quickie Q-200, G-CUIK, beginning the fun.....
>
>
>
Congradulations Chris. Happy to see it made the first one. Were all the
temps in order? should be plenty of fun ahead for you.

Ron Triano


Re: Off Topic - SIU girl makes good!

Larry Hamm <LDHAMM@...>
 

"Alma mater is Latin for "nourishing mother". It was used in ancient Rome as a title for the mother goddess, and in Medieval Christianity for the Virgin Mary.

It is now a term mainly used in academia as a sobriquet for the university or college a person has attended. This usage is taken from the full name ("Alma Mater Studiorum Universit di Bologna") of the oldest European university, the University of Bologna." (Wikipedia)

Now, if she just builds and flies a Quickie, she'll really have it made!

Larry Hamm

Allan Farr wrote:

Yes it is definitely cool, but what's an "alma mater"?
Allan F
----- Original Message -----
From: Sam Hoskins To: Quickie List Sent: Monday, 11 December 2006 01:29
Subject: [Q-LIST] Off Topic - SIU girl makes good!
I know this is off topic, but I just had to brag a little about my alma
mater, Southern Illinois University.
Joan Higginbotham, a 1987 SIU electrical engineering grad, is currently
circling the earth, repairing the Space station. Pretty darn cool. I have
never met her but we're pretty proud of her.
http://www.jsc.nasa.gov/Bios/htmlbios/higginbo.html
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/main/index.html
Regards,
Sam Hoskins - Q-200
Currently limited to the troposphere
www.samhoskins.blogspot.com
http://home.mchsi.com/~shoskins/index.htm


Re: Off Topic - SIU girl makes good!

Allan Farr <afarr@...>
 

Yes it is definitely cool, but what's an "alma mater"?
Allan F

----- Original Message -----
From: Sam Hoskins
To: Quickie List
Sent: Monday, 11 December 2006 01:29
Subject: [Q-LIST] Off Topic - SIU girl makes good!


I know this is off topic, but I just had to brag a little about my alma
mater, Southern Illinois University.

Joan Higginbotham, a 1987 SIU electrical engineering grad, is currently
circling the earth, repairing the Space station. Pretty darn cool. I have
never met her but we're pretty proud of her.

http://www.jsc.nasa.gov/Bios/htmlbios/higginbo.html

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/main/index.html

Regards,

Sam Hoskins - Q-200

Currently limited to the troposphere

www.samhoskins.blogspot.com

http://home.mchsi.com/~shoskins/index.htm


Off Topic - SIU girl makes good!

Sam Hoskins <shoskins@...>
 

I know this is off topic, but I just had to brag a little about my alma
mater, Southern Illinois University.



Joan Higginbotham, a 1987 SIU electrical engineering grad, is currently
circling the earth, repairing the Space station. Pretty darn cool. I have
never met her but we're pretty proud of her.



http://www.jsc.nasa.gov/Bios/htmlbios/higginbo.html



http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/main/index.html



Regards,

Sam Hoskins - Q-200

Currently limited to the troposphere





www.samhoskins.blogspot.com

http://home.mchsi.com/~shoskins/index.htm


Re: First flight

Peter Harris <peterjfharris@...>
 

Chris Congratulations !! Your turn is not far away now.

Peter



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From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...] On Behalf Of
chris rayner
Sent: Sunday, 10 December 2006 10:51 AM
To: Q-List
Subject: [Q-LIST] First flight



Guys, I am delighted to report that today at just after 15:00 GMT, Q-200
G-CUIK made a successful first flight under the expert command of Gary
McKirdy from Enstone in UK. The slow progress of more than seven years
building and some hours taxying, finished up with a 27 minute (not the one
circuit I was expecting) flight. So now it's time for a good, cowlings off
inspection before continuing with the flight tests.
I'm patient (anyone who builds one of these is), but sure looking forward to
my turn....
Chris Rayner Quickie Q-200, G-CUIK, beginning the fun.....


Re: First flight

raoborg@...
 

Congratulations Chris. Raoul,someday I will follow.

--- chris-rayner@... wrote:

From: "chris rayner" <chris-rayner@...>
To: "Q-List" <Q-LIST@...>
Subject: [Q-LIST] First flight
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 00:50:55 -0000

Guys, I am delighted to report that today at just after 15:00 GMT, Q-200 G-CUIK made a successful first flight under the expert command of Gary McKirdy from Enstone in UK. The slow progress of more than seven years building and some hours taxying, finished up with a 27 minute (not the one circuit I was expecting) flight. So now it's time for a good, cowlings off inspection before continuing with the flight tests.
I'm patient (anyone who builds one of these is), but sure looking forward to my turn....
Chris Rayner Quickie Q-200, G-CUIK, beginning the fun.....





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Re: Flight Report

Ron Triano <rondefly@...>
 

Kevin, if you built one of those manometers as I did, that is the best way
to check the pitot for any leaks



Ron Triano



N91RT Sonerai IIs, is a bird, it really flies

Q200, Back working on it, soon to be flying

-----Original Message-----
From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...] On Behalf Of
Kevin Boddicker
Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 7:52 PM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Flight Report



Bruce,
No bugs on me!!!
My airspeed indicator is off 5 MPH + in that range. Maybe more. I
built a manometer from plans in one of the past newsletters. At 60
indicated the manometer was at 50 ect. In the mid range 140 MPH was
off about 5. 180 to 190 were correct with the manometer.
All that said I was probably closer to 78 than 85. But that is what
the ASI read.
I will check the pitot though.
Thanks,
Kevin Boddicker
Tri Q 200 N7868B 37.3hours
Luana, IA.

On Dec 10, 2006, at 12:53 AM, jcrain2@juno. <mailto:jcrain2%40juno.com> com
wrote:

Pitch buck at 85 mph-
Did you have lots of bugs on the leading edge? That effects my stall
speed about 5 to 7 mph.

Check the pitot to see if it is vented into the cockpit somewhere.
That increases my airspeed indicator about 8 mph at slower speeds and
12 mph at cruise. In other words I indicate a higher airspeed than I
am actually flying when the pitot is vented into the cockpit
instead of
the sides of the tail cone. The airspeed indicator also moves around
several mph when vented into the cockpit on final so it is harder
get a
good reading.

Bruski

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Re: Flight Report

Kevin Boddicker <trumanst@...>
 

Bruce,
No bugs on me!!!
My airspeed indicator is off 5 MPH + in that range. Maybe more. I
built a manometer from plans in one of the past newsletters. At 60
indicated the manometer was at 50 ect. In the mid range 140 MPH was
off about 5. 180 to 190 were correct with the manometer.
All that said I was probably closer to 78 than 85. But that is what
the ASI read.
I will check the pitot though.
Thanks,
Kevin Boddicker
Tri Q 200 N7868B 37.3hours
Luana, IA.

On Dec 10, 2006, at 12:53 AM, jcrain2@... wrote:

Pitch buck at 85 mph-
Did you have lots of bugs on the leading edge? That effects my stall
speed about 5 to 7 mph.

Check the pitot to see if it is vented into the cockpit somewhere.
That increases my airspeed indicator about 8 mph at slower speeds and
12 mph at cruise. In other words I indicate a higher airspeed than I
am actually flying when the pitot is vented into the cockpit
instead of
the sides of the tail cone. The airspeed indicator also moves around
several mph when vented into the cockpit on final so it is harder
get a
good reading.

Bruski

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Re: First flight

Kevin Boddicker <trumanst@...>
 

Congrats Chris. As far as I know that makes two of us this year.
Enjoy the moment. You have earned it.
Fly Safe
Kevin Boddicker
Tri Q 200 N7868B 37.3hours
Luana, IA.

On Dec 9, 2006, at 6:50 PM, chris rayner wrote:

Guys, I am delighted to report that today at just after 15:00 GMT,
Q-200 G-CUIK made a successful first flight under the expert
command of Gary McKirdy from Enstone in UK. The slow progress of
more than seven years building and some hours taxying, finished up
with a 27 minute (not the one circuit I was expecting) flight. So
now it's time for a good, cowlings off inspection before continuing
with the flight tests.
I'm patient (anyone who builds one of these is), but sure looking
forward to my turn....
Chris Rayner Quickie Q-200, G-CUIK, beginning the fun.....





Re: First flight

Ron <rondefly@...>
 

--- In Q-LIST@..., "chris rayner" <chris-rayner@...> wrote:

Guys, I am delighted to report that today at just after 15:00 GMT, Q-
200 G-CUIK made a successful first flight under the expert command of
Gary McKirdy from Enstone in UK. The slow progress of more than seven
years building and some hours taxying, finished up with a 27 minute
(not the one circuit I was expecting) flight. So now it's time for a
good, cowlings off inspection before continuing with the flight tests.
I'm patient (anyone who builds one of these is), but sure looking
forward to my turn....
Chris Rayner Quickie Q-200, G-CUIK, beginning the fun.....

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Congradulations Chris. Happy to see it made the first one. Were all the
temps in order? should be plenty of fun ahead for you.

Ron Triano


Re: First flight

Doug Humble <hawkidoug@...>
 

Outstanding Chris!!!! Congrads!


Doug "Hawkeye" Humble
A Sign Above www.asignabove.net
Omaha NE
N25974

----- Original Message -----
From: chris rayner
To: Q-List
Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 6:50 PM
Subject: [Q-LIST] First flight


Guys, I am delighted to report that today at just after 15:00 GMT, Q-200 G-CUIK made a successful first flight under the expert command of Gary McKirdy from Enstone in UK. The slow progress of more than seven years building and some hours taxying, finished up with a 27 minute (not the one circuit I was expecting) flight. So now it's time for a good, cowlings off inspection before continuing with the flight tests.
I'm patient (anyone who builds one of these is), but sure looking forward to my turn....
Chris Rayner Quickie Q-200, G-CUIK, beginning the fun.....


Re: Flight Report

Bruce Crain
 

Pitch buck at 85 mph-
Did you have lots of bugs on the leading edge? That effects my stall
speed about 5 to 7 mph.

Check the pitot to see if it is vented into the cockpit somewhere.
That increases my airspeed indicator about 8 mph at slower speeds and
12 mph at cruise. In other words I indicate a higher airspeed than I
am actually flying when the pitot is vented into the cockpit instead of
the sides of the tail cone. The airspeed indicator also moves around
several mph when vented into the cockpit on final so it is harder get a
good reading.

Bruski




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First flight

chris rayner <chris-rayner@...>
 

Guys, I am delighted to report that today at just after 15:00 GMT, Q-200 G-CUIK made a successful first flight under the expert command of Gary McKirdy from Enstone in UK. The slow progress of more than seven years building and some hours taxying, finished up with a 27 minute (not the one circuit I was expecting) flight. So now it's time for a good, cowlings off inspection before continuing with the flight tests.
I'm patient (anyone who builds one of these is), but sure looking forward to my turn....
Chris Rayner Quickie Q-200, G-CUIK, beginning the fun.....


Re: Flight test problems???????

Doug Humble <hawkidoug@...>
 

I have to make a couple of comments to what Peter is suggesting. I don't think Peter is suggesting holding the stick "full back" on take off. Please don't do that. She'll fly when she's up to speed. After touch down you can hold it back, but IMHO, holding things steady is just as important. Reflex the tail down (ailerons up) and the tail should stay down. Then use your feet!

I'm also not crazy about jerking the stick back and forth either doing taxi testing. Peter doesn't say at what speed he does this at, but doing this close to take off speed might find you in the air. (You're a wild man Peter!)

Be patient! Please try to hook up with Jon Finley. He'll help you understand what we're talking about here.

Doug "Hawkeye" Humble
A Sign Above www.asignabove.net
Omaha NE
N25974

----- Original Message -----
From: Peter Harris
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 4:05 PM
Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] Re: Flight test problems???????


Get plenty of fast taxi practice before you feel ready to take off. Keeping
the stick full back will maximize the TW grip which is essential for
steering. Remember when the time comes that the landing touchdown may at
first upset the ground roll. To prepare for this during preflight ground
roll practice, try upsetting the run by jerking the stick back and forward
and practice recovery. If it starts to "oscillate" (without the wheels
leaving the ground) hold the stick full back hard and the oscillation will
stop. Experiment with the brakes and be careful not to lift the tail too
far. Finally try a ground loop at say 20mph and experience the lazy loop
which is a recommended emergency stop if you run out of runway.

If you still enjoy all of this you are now ready to take off. Very important
! Make sure that the aelerons are reflexed UP. Let it levitate. If you pull
the nose up it will jerk sideways under the force of precession. Just let it
fly naturally.

You will surely enjoy this bird in flight. If you then reduce the reflex you
will be amazed how the nose comes down and the view improves but remember to
reflex the aelerons back up before you attempt to flare for landing.

On approach for landing I wash airspeed .back to 100KTS on late downwind and
turn on to final at 80KTS and 70KTS over the fence. There is a big increase
in sink rate in my Q when reducing to 70KTS but the flare will be safe and
then it is a matter of holding the nose up and try to get the TW to touch
down first. When it stalls the canard will drop immediately .The ground run
will seem familiar if you did a thorough preflight practice.

Good luck with it you have something to look forward to.

Peter

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From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...] On Behalf Of
Sam Hoskins
Sent: Sunday, 10 December 2006 1:59 AM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] Re: Flight test problems???????

Yes, this is true. Adverse yaw is very powerful on the ground. HOWEVER, I
would recommend that you do not use it until you have more experience. Just
keep the ailerons neutral and just the rudder.

Make every effort to hook up with Jon Finley. He is apparently in you neck
of the woods and could help you a lot. You want to make sure your plane is
rigged right.

As far as speeds, 60 mph would be as high as you would want to fool with
and still stay on the ground.

Sam Hoskins

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From: Q-LIST@yahoogroups. <mailto:Q-LIST%40yahoogroups.com> com
[mailto:Q-LIST@yahoogroups. <mailto:Q-LIST%40yahoogroups.com> com] On Behalf
Of
dshawver123
Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 8:54 AM
To: Q-LIST@yahoogroups. <mailto:Q-LIST%40yahoogroups.com> com
Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: Flight test problems???????

So me being told that the aircraft is stearable through aleirons on
the ground, is in accurate? I have a hard time believing this could
even work?? Also what is the max speed I should do a taxi test on
ground?


Flight Report

Kevin Boddicker <trumanst@...>
 

9 Dec 06
Flight today was to expand the envelope on the gross weight testing.
Full fuel, 100# in PAX seat. CG at 44.42". Range 42 to 47.2" Wind 15
to 20 MPH from 220. TO on 17 was different because of the right hand
crosswind. Not much right rudder needed to counter P factor, as the
wind was taking care of the normal max rudder input and then braking.
80 MPH, rotate. The plane came off the runway smoother than previous
flights. Probably due to the more aft CG. Climb to 4500ft. Temps were
a bit high for this time of year as there was a temperature
inversion. 45┬░F on the ground, and 63┬░F at 4500 ft. CHT was 420┬░F,
oil temp got up to 210┬░F. Normal cruising temps at level off.
Had a wing man for a while as Paul Fisher showed up before TO. He
took several pics, and headed for home.
Climbs and descents were recorded. Only surprise was that an 85 MPH
power off descent yielded to pitch buck. I got a very noticeable
buffet, and then the nose fell gently. Tried it three times. Same
result.
Most of the data indicates the same best ROC and ROD with the
exception of the 85 MPH descent. I will have to explore more about
this with different reflexor settings.
Back for landing of 17. Approach was terrible. Decided to go around
while still on short final. Second approach was better. Carried a bit
more speed on final due to the gusty conditions. Landing was smooth.
With the aft CG the nose wheel did not fall to the runway as before.

Kevin Boddicker
Tri Q 200 N7868B 37.3hours
Luana, IA.




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