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Re: Styrofoam data sheet

Doug Humble <hawkidoug@...>
 

Damian, who was the supplier and how much? This is the kind of info I want to put on the resource page of the QBA site when I get around to it.

Supplier Name
Contact
Phone number
Address
web page
Product description

Then you can point them to the page instead of having them run around like you did.

Doug "Hawkeye" Humble
www.asignabove.net
Omaha NE
N25974

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 2:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Styrofoam data sheet


Peter , and all I got a hold of a Dow engineer today and he pointed me at a supplier for a micro cell blue billett ordered enough for two wing and canard sets. Phil L and I may be having a foam cutting party.

Regards,
Damian Gregory N8427 Q200


-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Harris <peterjfharris@...>
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 20:51:19 +1000
Subject: [Q-LIST] Styrofoam data sheet


Damian I have found an info sheet on styrofoam which is (was) made in 7
different grades each designed for a certain application/purpose. Some
details.....
type IB for panel core and fabrication, LT for low temp panel core, LB for high
quality panel core,RTM for refrigerated trucks,HD300F for high load panels and
floor inserts,SURF for surfboards, and CRAFT for craft material.
I chose LB for the canard remake on my Q.
It is fine textured and described as can be cut or planed or hotwire cut for a
good bonding surface. Dimensionally stable.
Density is 32 KG/M3 (IB is 28)
compressive strength is 300KN/M2 (IB is 250)
tensile strength is 500 KPA (IB is 450)
The temp range of all of them is -50 to +75C There is a lot more data.
This stuff is very different from the orange coarse foam originally used. We
experimented and decided not to precoat it with micro which is used to fill the
coarse orange foam.
I got my product from Aerodynamic Developments Ltd down here it was imported
from the states in billets 2400mm x 600 x 75 to 150mm thick
made by Dow.
Peter

----- Original Message -----
From: damiantwinsport@...
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks


Thanks,Nomenclature is everything .

Regards,
Damian Gregory N8427 Q200


-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Hamm <LDHAMM@...>
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 22:18:44 -0700
Subject: Re: Fw: [Q-LIST] Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks


The actual term is "Buoyancy Billet", and can also be found at
insulation products distributors. Call around!
Larry Hamm

oneskydog@... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 1/24/2006 9:44:16 AM Mountain Standard Time,
> paulbuckley@... writes:
>
> That name may be 'DOW PLASTICS'
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Paul Buckley
> To: Q-LIST@...
> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 4:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks
>
>
> I believe that the blue foam is made by 'DOW CHEMICALS' and is sold as
> 'flotation billets', in different sizes.
>
> Paul Buckley
> Cheshire
> England
>
>
>
>
> Paul, and all,
> Correct DOW owns the name "Styrofoam" Flotation billets are the product
DOW

> made both blue and orange flotation billets. apparently Q's used
orange
> billets and D'flies use blue billets. Go to a marine distributor and
give
him
> your sizes needed for your dock.
>
> Extruded polystyrene apx 2 lb density orange or blue. Caution: Bead
board
is
> white polystyrene pellets expanded with steam and is not suitable for
> structural core.
>
> Regards,
>
> Charlie a.k.a. One Sky Dog
>




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Re: Leaky fuel tank

Ron <rondefly@...>
 

Allan, It is pretty easy to cut a hole in either the top or bottom and
repair the leaks. What resin did you use? I used Aero Poxy which works quite
well, I have heard of some going the metal way but don't see any reason to.
A real wet layup worked well for me.



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Subject: [Q-LIST] Leaky fuel tank



Hi. Has anyone replaced the standard main fuel tank with one made of
aluminium? I'm thinking it may be the best way to fix the leaks.
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Re: Leaky fuel tank

Peter Harris <peterjfharris@...>
 

Damian no I have not seen those fuel cells . They sound safe and light. I mention weight because at the end of the project when you put the bird on the scales it's too late to do much about 5lb here and there and that was my regret. Of crash proofing the Q I would want a quick release canopy as priority 1 maybe some quick release at the hinge so it would blow off . Very hard to open when the hull is inverted.
Peter

----- Original Message -----
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To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Leaky fuel tank


Peter, have you ever picked up a racing fuel cell(empty) they weigh close to nothing 15 gal tank and cell =5 lbs When N8427 crashed it ruptured the main tank at the bottom and spewed fuel everywhere. I don't intend to argue that it is lighter just safer. Like I previously posted others can do what they will.
Oh I like toe brakes as well.
PS
Wasn't there a Q crash and fire resulting in a fatality?

Regards,
Damian Gregory N8427 Q200


-----Original Message-----
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To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 19:35:58 +1000
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Leaky fuel tank


Damian spare a thought about the added weight going that way.
Peter
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 5:36 AM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Leaky fuel tank


Leon, I don't intend on leaving out the composite seat/ fuel tank I am going
to remove that panel and fab an AL shell that I can send to Fuel Safe for
bladder construction then bond it in with a urethane structural adhesive,then
replace the outer Seat/ tank shell. After many on track mishaps Which all
involved heavy masss /velocity forces the cells were damaged but did not leak a
drop. Look at F1 cars. I am a little uncomfortable being inside a capsule
sitting atop a bunch of fuel. With even more in front of me atop my legs. Guess
I would rather carry a few extra pounds and spend bucks than taking a chance of
one of my greatest fears ...Fire!
When all is said and done it is up to the individual to decide how much safety
cushion he designs in and what said person is comfortable with.
P. S.
Halon is my friend!

Regards,
Damian Gregory N8427 Q200


-----Original Message-----
From: Leon - C <leon@...>
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 11:59:56 -0700
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Leaky fuel tank


This subject has come up before here. The general opinion - IIRC - was that
it may not be a good idea as the fuel tank was considered to be a structural
member.
=============================
Leon
----- Original Message -----
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To: <Q-LIST@...>
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 2:11 AM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Leaky fuel tank


> Hi. Has anyone replaced the standard main fuel tank with one made of
aluminium? I'm thinking it may be the best way to fix the leaks.
> Allan F
> Q2 Rev
>
>
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>
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Re: Leaky fuel tank

damiantwinsport@...
 

That is precisely what I am doing and adding a "Fuel Safe" bladder and anti inversion valve just like a Nascar plumbed up with convoluted terelene hose and AN fittings from Goodridge,

Regards,
Damian Gregory N8427 Q200

-----Original Message-----
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To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 22:11:35 +1300
Subject: [Q-LIST] Leaky fuel tank


Hi. Has anyone replaced the standard main fuel tank with one made of aluminium?
I'm thinking it may be the best way to fix the leaks.
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Leaky fuel tank

Allan Farr <afarr@...>
 

Hi. Has anyone replaced the standard main fuel tank with one made of aluminium? I'm thinking it may be the best way to fix the leaks.
Allan F
Q2 Rev


Re: Previous LS1 Canard Failure

damiantwinsport@...
 

Jim good going on the canard repair.

Regards,
Damian Gregory N8427 Q200

-----Original Message-----
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To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 01:11:08 -0000
Subject: [Q-LIST] Previous LS1 Canard Failure


Fellas,

Just wanted to report that I finished the yearly condition
inspection last week. Everything looked fine. The only repair made
was to rework and install Rulon J and LR in the bearing areas;
rudder, aileron and elevators. This has completely removed any
vertical/horizontal play and the controls are very smooth. I will
advise as to their wearability over the next several months.

The major LS1 repair made over 400 hours ago appears to be solid and
shows no sign of distress or wear and tear.

The newly installed Lightspeed 30-3G headsets work very well and the
Ipod and telephone transmission/reception is clear and seamless.

I still have a couple of areas to work in the future (cowling,
plenum, glass panels=less weight)but am still debating the value of
reshaped wheel pants for the amount of work required.

After comparing many pumped 0200's it appears they all fly very
close to the same at high speed cruise and top end no matter what
you do. They also tend to be the most reliable, (0200, 0200+). I
believe the least amount of work and greatest bang for the buck is
had by adding high compression pistons, electronic ignition and the
6 pack. Fuel injection is expensive and a lot of work, and has some
trade offs like hard starting when hot. The obvious benefit is how
well they sip fuel with FI but you can buy a lot of gas for the
difference.

Also got a fresh Bi-Annual last week, and still have a year left on
the medical, so I think I'll go fly!

Regards,
Jim Patillo N46JP Q200.

P.S. Pat, is there a date and location for the Mountain States Flyin
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Re: Styrofoam data sheet

damiantwinsport@...
 

Peter , and all I got a hold of a Dow engineer today and he pointed me at a supplier for a micro cell blue billett ordered enough for two wing and canard sets. Phil L and I may be having a foam cutting party.

Regards,
Damian Gregory N8427 Q200

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Harris <peterjfharris@...>
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 20:51:19 +1000
Subject: [Q-LIST] Styrofoam data sheet


Damian I have found an info sheet on styrofoam which is (was) made in 7
different grades each designed for a certain application/purpose. Some
details.....
type IB for panel core and fabrication, LT for low temp panel core, LB for high
quality panel core,RTM for refrigerated trucks,HD300F for high load panels and
floor inserts,SURF for surfboards, and CRAFT for craft material.
I chose LB for the canard remake on my Q.
It is fine textured and described as can be cut or planed or hotwire cut for a
good bonding surface. Dimensionally stable.
Density is 32 KG/M3 (IB is 28)
compressive strength is 300KN/M2 (IB is 250)
tensile strength is 500 KPA (IB is 450)
The temp range of all of them is -50 to +75C There is a lot more data.
This stuff is very different from the orange coarse foam originally used. We
experimented and decided not to precoat it with micro which is used to fill the
coarse orange foam.
I got my product from Aerodynamic Developments Ltd down here it was imported
from the states in billets 2400mm x 600 x 75 to 150mm thick
made by Dow.
Peter

----- Original Message -----
From: damiantwinsport@...
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks


Thanks,Nomenclature is everything .

Regards,
Damian Gregory N8427 Q200


-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Hamm <LDHAMM@...>
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 22:18:44 -0700
Subject: Re: Fw: [Q-LIST] Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks


The actual term is "Buoyancy Billet", and can also be found at
insulation products distributors. Call around!
Larry Hamm

oneskydog@... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 1/24/2006 9:44:16 AM Mountain Standard Time,
> paulbuckley@... writes:
>
> That name may be 'DOW PLASTICS'
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Paul Buckley
> To: Q-LIST@...
> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 4:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks
>
>
> I believe that the blue foam is made by 'DOW CHEMICALS' and is sold as
> 'flotation billets', in different sizes.
>
> Paul Buckley
> Cheshire
> England
>
>
>
>
> Paul, and all,
> Correct DOW owns the name "Styrofoam" Flotation billets are the product DOW

> made both blue and orange flotation billets. apparently Q's used orange
> billets and D'flies use blue billets. Go to a marine distributor and give
him
> your sizes needed for your dock.
>
> Extruded polystyrene apx 2 lb density orange or blue. Caution: Bead board
is
> white polystyrene pellets expanded with steam and is not suitable for
> structural core.
>
> Regards,
>
> Charlie a.k.a. One Sky Dog
>




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Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks

damiantwinsport@...
 

Ron yer killin me ! I bought spars so I could build an LS1.

Regards,
Damian Gregory N8427 Q200

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To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 15:09:03 -0800
Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks


Hey Damian, If you have a ¼" spaced mastic trowel you wont have to rough up
the leading edge on the GU canard to stop the rain problem. That way you
would have a different design. HaHa



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Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks



Damian I used a suggestion by Pat. Apply the micro with a serrated scraper
so the glass is visible and can apply evenly and very easy to sand. Then
apply another coat of micro just enough to fill the grooves and final sand
not too heavy.
Peter
----- Original Message -----
From: damiantwinsport@...
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 8:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks


Thanks Brad, Good info. We don"t like to fill and sand too much.

Regards,
Damian Gregory N8427 Q200


-----Original Message-----
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To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 22:25:06 -0800
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks



----- Original Message -----
From: <damiantwinsport@...>
To: <Q-LIST@...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 9:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks


> Thanks,Nomenclature is everything .
>
> Regards,
> Damian Gregory N8427 Q200


The product is Styreen foam and is manufactured by Dow Chemical under the

trade name "Styrafoam"

Be careful what you are ordering. Some orange foams come in extruded
billets, which are of poor quality
for your use. They have a slightly curved surface, are smooth (melted) on
the outside, and the cell size is
not uniform .Usually called flotation billet.
The billets you want come in 10" x 20" x8'( if memory serves me), are sawn

from larger billets, have a uniform
cell size, is blue in colour, and is usually called Fabrication Fillet.
Your part will considerably lighter if you use the sawn billets, as you
will
use much less micro to fill the cells.

Brad
Q2 CGTCA




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Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks

damiantwinsport@...
 

Peter I use a long rubber squeegee with a round head brad stuck in both ends then I only have two voids to fill and a long smooth surface in between .

Regards,
Damian Gregory N8427 Q200

-----Original Message-----
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To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 21:00:44 +1000
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks


Damian I used a suggestion by Pat. Apply the micro with a serrated scraper so
the glass is visible and can apply evenly and very easy to sand. Then apply
another coat of micro just enough to fill the grooves and final sand not too
heavy.
Peter
----- Original Message -----
From: damiantwinsport@...
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 8:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks


Thanks Brad, Good info. We don"t like to fill and sand too much.

Regards,
Damian Gregory N8427 Q200


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To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 22:25:06 -0800
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks



----- Original Message -----
From: <damiantwinsport@...>
To: <Q-LIST@...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 9:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks


> Thanks,Nomenclature is everything .
>
> Regards,
> Damian Gregory N8427 Q200


The product is Styreen foam and is manufactured by Dow Chemical under the
trade name "Styrafoam"

Be careful what you are ordering. Some orange foams come in extruded
billets, which are of poor quality
for your use. They have a slightly curved surface, are smooth (melted) on
the outside, and the cell size is
not uniform .Usually called flotation billet.
The billets you want come in 10" x 20" x8'( if memory serves me), are sawn
from larger billets, have a uniform
cell size, is blue in colour, and is usually called Fabrication Fillet.
Your part will considerably lighter if you use the sawn billets, as you will
use much less micro to fill the cells.

Brad
Q2 CGTCA




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Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks

Thomas O'Grady <ogrady@...>
 

Actually, the "Buoyancy Billets" shipped with the original Q-2 kits in 1982 had the orange foam, exactly as you describe. I still have the outer surface with the markings down in the basement.

Tom O'Grady
Tri-Q #2099

On Jan 24, 2006, at 9:25 PM, Brad/Iris Baerg wrote:


The product is Styreen foam and is manufactured by Dow Chemical under the
trade name "Styrafoam"

Be careful what you are ordering. Some orange foams come in extruded
billets, which are of poor quality
for your use. They have a slightly curved surface, are smooth (melted) on
the outside, and the cell size is
not uniform .Usually called flotation billet.
The billets you want come in 10" x 20" x8'( if memory serves me), are sawn
from larger billets, have a uniform
cell size, is blue in colour, and is usually called Fabrication Fillet.
Your part will considerably lighter if you use the sawn billets, as you will
use much less micro to fill the cells.

Brad
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Re: Garmin 296

Jim Patillo
 

Which one do you have? My 295 was hard to read in direct sunlight but
the 296 works better when the sun is shining directly on it. It is
very clear and easy to read.

Jim Patillo

--- In Q-LIST@..., Michel Moreau <mjmorea@v...> wrote:

Bruce, Jim,
Do you have a recipe for using a Garmin 296 or 396 in a buble
canopy under
bright sunlight? I can hardly read mine and almost wish I had a
black and
white display.....
MichelM
C-GQTU

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Patillo" <logistics_engineering@m...>
To: <Q-LIST@...>
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 12:55 PM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: Garmin 296



Hi Bruce,

Hope everything is good with you and Honey Lamb.

I'm switching to the 396 and a friend is purchasing mine for
$1,000.00. Sounds like a good deal for $850.00. You may want to
ask
him to update the data base before you get it. This unit has a
built
in charger in it when supplied with A/C power. It's neat because
its
always topped off if you need to use it battery only.

Jim Patillo N46JP Q200

P.S. I've now completed my condition inspection and switched the
inboard/outboard elevator and aileron bearings to Rulon. I found
the
steel on steel and the steel on phenolic points wearing out.
Hopefully
this solves the problem as it would be a bitch to replace the
pivot
shafts. Everything is now solid as it should be! I've found all
the
Q's around here has the same problem.

P.S.S. Jennifer retired from United Airlines last Feburary., I was
kinda surprised when she decided to take a job with FEDEX last
month
until I'm finished. She is now driving one of those large trucks
like
you drive. This should be interesting.

--- In Q-LIST@..., MartinErni@a... wrote:

Bruce,
They have been going from 1000 to 1100 on Ebay.
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Re: Garmin 296

Bruce Crain
 

Hi Micheal,
I haven't flown with my 296 yet so can't give you any pointers. Does it help to turn off the back lighting in the sunlight or turn on the lighting?
Bruce



-- Michel Moreau <mjmorea@...> wrote:
Bruce, Jim,
Do you have a recipe for using a Garmin 296 or 396 in a buble canopy under
bright sunlight? I can hardly read mine and almost wish I had a black and
white display.....
MichelM
C-GQTU

----- Original Message -----
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To: <Q-LIST@...>
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 12:55 PM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: Garmin 296



Hi Bruce,

Hope everything is good with you and Honey Lamb.

I'm switching to the 396 and a friend is purchasing mine for
$1,000.00. Sounds like a good deal for $850.00. You may want to ask
him to update the data base before you get it. This unit has a built
in charger in it when supplied with A/C power. It's neat because its
always topped off if you need to use it battery only.

Jim Patillo N46JP Q200

P.S. I've now completed my condition inspection and switched the
inboard/outboard elevator and aileron bearings to Rulon. I found the
steel on steel and the steel on phenolic points wearing out. Hopefully
this solves the problem as it would be a bitch to replace the pivot
shafts. Everything is now solid as it should be! I've found all the
Q's around here has the same problem.

P.S.S. Jennifer retired from United Airlines last Feburary., I was
kinda surprised when she decided to take a job with FEDEX last month
until I'm finished. She is now driving one of those large trucks like
you drive. This should be interesting.

--- In Q-LIST@..., MartinErni@a... wrote:

Bruce,
They have been going from 1000 to 1100 on Ebay.
Earnest


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Re: Elevator and Aileron Bushings

raoborg@...
 

Hi Steve! anything on the rulon yet? Tks Raoul

--- "steve" <sham@...> wrote:

From: "steve" <sham@...>
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 22:33:33 -0500
To: <Q-LIST@...>
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: Elevator and Aileron Bushings
Thanks Raoul, I will call tomorrow and get prices and let you
know.
Thanks Steve Ham

----- Original Message -----
From: raoborg@...
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 4:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: Elevator and Aileron Bushings
Hi Steve if you need some people to go with you on the buy of
the Rulon let me know, I am looking to get some too. Raoul
--- "steve" <sham@...> wrote:
From: "steve" <sham@...>
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 14:07:12 -0500
To: <Q-LIST@...>
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: Elevator and Aileron Bushings
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Patillo
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 1:02 PM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: Elevator and Aileron Bushings
Jim, I found a source for Rulon bushing at San
Diego
Plastics. They have minimum orders of $75.00 Have you got
a
better source??
Steve Ham
As I said earlier, I've checked all the Quickies around
this
airport,
including Farnams' and they all have a fair to good amount
of
play,
depending on hours of usage. Has any one flown with
the
Teflon
bushings Farnam is suggesting we use? If so what has
been
your
results.
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Re: Garmin 296

michel & hélène moreau
 

Bruce, Jim,
Do you have a recipe for using a Garmin 296 or 396 in a buble canopy under bright sunlight? I can hardly read mine and almost wish I had a black and white display.....
MichelM
C-GQTU

----- Original Message -----
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To: <Q-LIST@...>
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 12:55 PM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: Garmin 296



Hi Bruce,

Hope everything is good with you and Honey Lamb.

I'm switching to the 396 and a friend is purchasing mine for
$1,000.00. Sounds like a good deal for $850.00. You may want to ask
him to update the data base before you get it. This unit has a built
in charger in it when supplied with A/C power. It's neat because its
always topped off if you need to use it battery only.

Jim Patillo N46JP Q200

P.S. I've now completed my condition inspection and switched the
inboard/outboard elevator and aileron bearings to Rulon. I found the
steel on steel and the steel on phenolic points wearing out. Hopefully
this solves the problem as it would be a bitch to replace the pivot
shafts. Everything is now solid as it should be! I've found all the
Q's around here has the same problem.

P.S.S. Jennifer retired from United Airlines last Feburary., I was
kinda surprised when she decided to take a job with FEDEX last month
until I'm finished. She is now driving one of those large trucks like
you drive. This should be interesting.

--- In Q-LIST@..., MartinErni@a... wrote:

Bruce,
They have been going from 1000 to 1100 on Ebay.
Earnest







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Re: Previous LS1 Canard Failure

Patrick Panzera <panzera@...>
 

P.S. Pat, is there a date and location for the Mountain States Flyin
yet?
Not yet.

Pat


Previous LS1 Canard Failure

Jim Patillo
 

Fellas,

Just wanted to report that I finished the yearly condition
inspection last week. Everything looked fine. The only repair made
was to rework and install Rulon J and LR in the bearing areas;
rudder, aileron and elevators. This has completely removed any
vertical/horizontal play and the controls are very smooth. I will
advise as to their wearability over the next several months.

The major LS1 repair made over 400 hours ago appears to be solid and
shows no sign of distress or wear and tear.

The newly installed Lightspeed 30-3G headsets work very well and the
Ipod and telephone transmission/reception is clear and seamless.

I still have a couple of areas to work in the future (cowling,
plenum, glass panels=less weight)but am still debating the value of
reshaped wheel pants for the amount of work required.

After comparing many pumped 0200's it appears they all fly very
close to the same at high speed cruise and top end no matter what
you do. They also tend to be the most reliable, (0200, 0200+). I
believe the least amount of work and greatest bang for the buck is
had by adding high compression pistons, electronic ignition and the
6 pack. Fuel injection is expensive and a lot of work, and has some
trade offs like hard starting when hot. The obvious benefit is how
well they sip fuel with FI but you can buy a lot of gas for the
difference.

Also got a fresh Bi-Annual last week, and still have a year left on
the medical, so I think I'll go fly!

Regards,
Jim Patillo N46JP Q200.

P.S. Pat, is there a date and location for the Mountain States Flyin
yet?


Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks

Ron <rondefly@...>
 

Hey Damian, If you have a ¼” spaced mastic trowel you wont have to rough up
the leading edge on the GU canard to stop the rain problem. That way you
would have a different design. HaHa



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Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 3:01 AM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks



Damian I used a suggestion by Pat. Apply the micro with a serrated scraper
so the glass is visible and can apply evenly and very easy to sand. Then
apply another coat of micro just enough to fill the grooves and final sand
not too heavy.
Peter

----- Original Message -----
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To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 8:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks


Thanks Brad, Good info. We don"t like to fill and sand too much.

Regards,
Damian Gregory N8427 Q200


-----Original Message-----
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To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 22:25:06 -0800
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks



----- Original Message -----
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To: <Q-LIST@...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 9:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks


> Thanks,Nomenclature is everything .
>
> Regards,
> Damian Gregory N8427 Q200


The product is Styreen foam and is manufactured by Dow Chemical under the

trade name "Styrafoam"

Be careful what you are ordering. Some orange foams come in extruded
billets, which are of poor quality
for your use. They have a slightly curved surface, are smooth (melted) on
the outside, and the cell size is
not uniform .Usually called flotation billet.
The billets you want come in 10" x 20" x8'( if memory serves me), are sawn

from larger billets, have a uniform
cell size, is blue in colour, and is usually called Fabrication Fillet.
Your part will considerably lighter if you use the sawn billets, as you
will
use much less micro to fill the cells.

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Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks

Larry
 

You got that right!!!!!!
Larry Baxter Q-Vair-in-progress

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To: Q-LIST@...<mailto:Q-LIST@...>
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 5:49 PM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks


Oh yes! and the 4th type of pilotis the one who bought someone elses
mess and had to rework most of it!

Regards,

Jim Patillo



-- In Q-LIST@...<mailto:Q-LIST@...>, "Jim Patillo"
<logistics_engineering@m<mailto:logistics_engineering@m>...> wrote:
>
>
> Chris,
>
> First congratulations on the startup! Watch to make sure you do not
> overheat the cylinders (don't get them over 375-400 degrees on
these
> little forays). Make sure you calibrate and have accurate oil temp
> and CHT gauges. Break the engine in according to the Continental
> manual and you won't have any problems. Note: Glazing cylinders on
a
> new engine is a bummer. Just ask Mark Summers.
>
> It is not recommended but I ran mine several hours on the ground. I
> did a complete rebuild myself and did not want surprises. As of 700
> hours of continual use, I've not had any problems.
>
> O200's leak oil and they make noise when turned by hand, but just
> remember an 0200 is pretty bullet proof. That's why they use them
in
> Cessna trainer airplanes. You really got to screw up to really
screw
> up.
>
> If you have mags that are both impulse coupled you will hear two
> simetaneous clicks. That is a good thing. You will also feel front
to
> back end play when pushing on the prop. You also hear the valves
> opening and closing but I'm not sure how much you can hear the
> hydraulic lifters.
>
> There are four kinds of pilots in this group. Those who bought
flying
> airplanes, those who bought flying airplanes and decided to tear
them
> apart and spend the next several years wishing they hadn't and
those
> who built them from scratch. Which are you?
>
> I was reminded again this weekend of the latter category (visiting
> Sam Kittle and his airplane) and what a lot of work it really is. I
> spent around 4000 hours on mine and honestly don't think I would
have
> the stamina to do it again. The rewards are great but the time
> required is incredible.
>
> How close to flight are you?
>
> Regards,
> Jim Patillo N46JP Q200
>
>
> --- In Q-LIST@...<mailto:Q-LIST@...>, "chris rayner" <chris-rayner@b<mailto:chris-rayner@b>...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Guys, my "hand-start O-200" starts and runs fine - about 30
minutes
> so far on my driveway. It has a few oil drips - seem to be from one
> mag and the oil tank gaskets. Probably need to re-tighten or re-
seat
> them. However, as I have never worked with the O-200 before, I
could
> do with some advice on what are normal sounds when it is turned
over
> by hand. I expect, and get the clicks from the impulse coupling at
> the right time, but I also get other clonks when it is turned over
> slowly. These are at the same point each rotation and I can only
> think of the hydraulic tappets that could cause the noise. Do they
> normally (or often) do that; does it matter and is it something
that
> goes away when the oil pressure builds up? I can't hear it when the
> engine is running, but there's other stuff going on then!
> >
> > Thanks for advice from anyone with more experience than me on
these
> engines.
> >
> > An observation - it sure is a closely cowled installation. A
small
> impact lump and cracked paint has appeared on the cowling over the
#4
> cylinder rocker cover - top front corner. Also needed to clamp the
> plug lead down tight on that cylinder to avoid it rubbing inside
the
> cowl, even with the short REM37BY plugs. The engine sounds great
> though.
> >
> > Chris Rayner (trying to recover from standing behind a very
> powerful fan at near freezing temperatures).
> >
> >
> >
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Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks

damiantwinsport@...
 

Does the 4th dimension include crashed messes?

Regards,
Damian Gregory N8427 Q200

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Sent: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 08:20:10 -0800
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks



Oh yes! and the 4th type of pilotis the one who bought someone elses
mess and had to rework most of it!
That is me. Every time I think that I have solved the last mess,
something comes up. I think that I am a couple days away from first
flight, as I have for the past 900 hours of re-working. I just hope
that it will not consume another year.


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Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks

Ron <rondefly@...>
 

Well Larry, I guess we must enjoy building them as I am not getting much
flying one yet. I am seeing what Jim and the others keep saying about just
build it per plans. Just that there are to many great new things available
than were when they built theirs.



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Oh yes! and the 4th type of pilotis the one who bought someone elses
mess and had to rework most of it!
That is me. Every time I think that I have solved the last mess,
something comes up. I think that I am a couple days away from first
flight, as I have for the past 900 hours of re-working. I just hope
that it will not consume another year.


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