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Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks

damiantwinsport@...
 

Poor Ronnie, at least you are almost there with your airplane I still have to build a canard install it and ressurect my O200. All I get for flyovers is Heavies.... sometimes a police chopper. And at my hangar in Compton the local Gangstas have decided to take target practice on the building They put three rounds of 7.62X49 right through my building space adding another nick to poor N8427. Nice!

Regards,
Damian Gregory N8427 Q200

-----Original Message-----
From: Ron <rondefly@...>
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 06:21:55 -0800
Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks


Boy, I wish they would fly over to Minden to motivate me also. I feel like
an lost child.



Ron Triano


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From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...] On Behalf Of
Sam Kittle
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 8:39 PM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks



Thanks for the visit Jim, your checking on my progress and answering a few
questions really helps me stay motivated. I was glassing my arm rests
yesterday afternoon when Mark Summers made several passes over the ranch.
That was a pretty nice motivator also. Some day, I will be up there too.

Regards,
Sam
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Patillo" <logistics_engineering@...>
To: <Q-LIST@...>
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 8:03 PM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks


There are four kinds of pilots in this group. Those who bought flying
airplanes, those who bought flying airplanes and decided to tear them
apart and spend the next several years wishing they hadn't and those
who built them from scratch. Which are you?

I was reminded again this weekend of the latter category (visiting
Sam Kittle and his airplane) and what a lot of work it really is. I
spent around 4000 hours on mine and honestly don't think I would have
the stamina to do it again. The rewards are great but the time
required is incredible.

How close to flight are you?

Regards,
Jim Patillo N46JP Q200


--- In Q-LIST@..., "chris rayner" <chris-rayner@b...>
wrote:

Guys, my "hand-start O-200" starts and runs fine - about 30 minutes
so far on my driveway. It has a few oil drips - seem to be from one
mag and the oil tank gaskets. Probably need to re-tighten or re-seat
them. However, as I have never worked with the O-200 before, I could
do with some advice on what are normal sounds when it is turned over
by hand. I expect, and get the clicks from the impulse coupling at
the right time, but I also get other clonks when it is turned over
slowly. These are at the same point each rotation and I can only
think of the hydraulic tappets that could cause the noise. Do they
normally (or often) do that; does it matter and is it something that
goes away when the oil pressure builds up? I can't hear it when the
engine is running, but there's other stuff going on then!

Thanks for advice from anyone with more experience than me on these
engines.

An observation - it sure is a closely cowled installation. A small
impact lump and cracked paint has appeared on the cowling over the #4
cylinder rocker cover - top front corner. Also needed to clamp the
plug lead down tight on that cylinder to avoid it rubbing inside the
cowl, even with the short REM37BY plugs. The engine sounds great
though.

Chris Rayner (trying to recover from standing behind a very
powerful fan at near freezing temperatures).








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DOW Chemical co. for Styrofoam buoyancy billets (blue foam)

Paul Buckley
 

DOW Styrofoam Buoyancy billets
Try the following link for information on sizes etc

http://www.hendersonmarine.com/Catalog/01-04%20Styrofoam%20Buoyancy%20Billets.pdf

----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Buckley
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 4:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks


I believe that the blue foam is made by 'DOW CHEMICALS' and is sold as 'flotation billets', in different sizes.

Paul Buckley
Cheshire
England
----- Original Message -----
From: damiantwinsport@...
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 7:08 AM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks


Thanks for the info, I guess I will have to invent myself as a dock builder.

Regards,
Damian Gregory N8427 Q200


-----Original Message-----
From: Boddicker <trumanst@...>
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 21:59:56 -0600
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks


Damian,
I got the blue foam from a company named Cope Plastics. They have since
decided not to sell retail however. I think Sam Hoskins got his foam from
Spruce of Wicks. They had to special order it for him I believe. In order to
get it large enough.
The orange foam is no longer available as far as I know. It was explained to
me that the foam is used for flotation of boat docks. It was determined that
the orange foam invited muskrats to gnaw on it , and they stay away fron the
blue foam. I know it sounds crazy, but that is what I was told.

Kevin Boddicker
Luana, Iowa
Tri Q200 N7868B
Taxiing



on 1/23/06 6:28 PM, damiantwinsport@... at damiantwinsport@...
wrote:

> Hey Guys, does anyone have a source for the orange Polystyrene used for canard
> and wing cores?
>
> Regards,
> Damian Gregory N8427 Q200
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: chris rayner <chris-rayner@...>
> To: Q-LIST@...
> Sent: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 23:54:18 -0000
> Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks
>
>
> Jim, Mike, Bruce, thanks for your replies. I'm keeping close eye on the
> temperatures - especially CHT. No problem so far - all seems fine really so
> I think I'll keep running it, listening for strange noises. There's one
> impulse mag and one fixed, hand swinging with l/h mag on only. I expect that
> there will be several hours of taxi testing before flight, so I'll have to
> take care and hope for not too much glazing. This will probably be mid year,
> by the time that PFA paperwork gets done. Engine installation about
> complete - except for the leaks and a few wires to be tidied. Need to hook
> up the radio and associated bits (PTT, aerial, h/phones etc) and finish the
> canopy locks. Fit the belts; bleed the brakes; finalise the battery
> installation - can easily continue to think of lots of little items to
> finish.....
>
> The type of pilot I am (more accurately builder as I'm not yet flying) is
> like I mentioned in the Q-Talk article. Bought a part-built and continued
> from then. Only significant modifications were to add the "6-pack".
>
> PS. Raoul, I know of 3 Q's with 0-235 installed. One is in Cyprus (I
> believe) but was built in UK; two others still in UK. One being built and
> the other in need of canard repair.
>
> Chris Rayner
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Patillo" <logistics_engineering@...>
> To: <Q-LIST@...>
> Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 4:03 AM
> Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks
>
>
>>
>> Chris,
>>
>> First congratulations on the startup! Watch to make sure you do not
>> overheat the cylinders (don't get them over 375-400 degrees on these
>> little forays). Make sure you calibrate and have accurate oil temp
>> and CHT gauges. Break the engine in according to the Continental
>> manual and you won't have any problems. Note: Glazing cylinders on a
>> new engine is a bummer. Just ask Mark Summers.
>>
>> It is not recommended but I ran mine several hours on the ground. I
>> did a complete rebuild myself and did not want surprises. As of 700
>> hours of continual use, I've not had any problems.
>>
>> O200's leak oil and they make noise when turned by hand, but just
>> remember an 0200 is pretty bullet proof. That's why they use them in
>> Cessna trainer airplanes. You really got to screw up to really screw
>> up.
>>
>> If you have mags that are both impulse coupled you will hear two
>> simetaneous clicks. That is a good thing. You will also feel front to
>> back end play when pushing on the prop. You also hear the valves
>> opening and closing but I'm not sure how much you can hear the
>> hydraulic lifters.
>>
>> There are four kinds of pilots in this group. Those who bought flying
>> airplanes, those who bought flying airplanes and decided to tear them
>> apart and spend the next several years wishing they hadn't and those
>> who built them from scratch. Which are you?
>>
>> I was reminded again this weekend of the latter category (visiting
>> Sam Kittle and his airplane) and what a lot of work it really is. I
>> spent around 4000 hours on mine and honestly don't think I would have
>> the stamina to do it again. The rewards are great but the time
>> required is incredible.
>>
>> How close to flight are you?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jim Patillo N46JP Q200
>>
>>
>> --- In Q-LIST@..., "chris rayner" <chris-rayner@b...>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Guys, my "hand-start O-200" starts and runs fine - about 30 minutes
>> so far on my driveway. It has a few oil drips - seem to be from one
>> mag and the oil tank gaskets. Probably need to re-tighten or re-seat
>> them. However, as I have never worked with the O-200 before, I could
>> do with some advice on what are normal sounds when it is turned over
>> by hand. I expect, and get the clicks from the impulse coupling at
>> the right time, but I also get other clonks when it is turned over
>> slowly. These are at the same point each rotation and I can only
>> think of the hydraulic tappets that could cause the noise. Do they
>> normally (or often) do that; does it matter and is it something that
>> goes away when the oil pressure builds up? I can't hear it when the
>> engine is running, but there's other stuff going on then!
>>>
>>> Thanks for advice from anyone with more experience than me on these
>> engines.
>>>
>>> An observation - it sure is a closely cowled installation. A small
>> impact lump and cracked paint has appeared on the cowling over the #4
>> cylinder rocker cover - top front corner. Also needed to clamp the
>> plug lead down tight on that cylinder to avoid it rubbing inside the
>> cowl, even with the short REM37BY plugs. The engine sounds great
>> though.
>>>
>>> Chris Rayner (trying to recover from standing behind a very
>> powerful fan at near freezing temperatures).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Quickie Builders Association WEB site
>> http://www.quickiebuilders.org
>>
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
> Quickie Builders Association WEB site
> http://www.quickiebuilders.org
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Quickie Builders Association WEB site
> http://www.quickiebuilders.org
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>



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Fw: Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks

Paul Buckley
 

That name may be 'DOW PLASTICS'

----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Buckley
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 4:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks


I believe that the blue foam is made by 'DOW CHEMICALS' and is sold as 'flotation billets', in different sizes.

Paul Buckley
Cheshire
England
----- Original Message -----
From: damiantwinsport@...
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 7:08 AM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks


Thanks for the info, I guess I will have to invent myself as a dock builder.

Regards,
Damian Gregory N8427 Q200


-----Original Message-----
From: Boddicker <trumanst@...>
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 21:59:56 -0600
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks


Damian,
I got the blue foam from a company named Cope Plastics. They have since
decided not to sell retail however. I think Sam Hoskins got his foam from
Spruce of Wicks. They had to special order it for him I believe. In order to
get it large enough.
The orange foam is no longer available as far as I know. It was explained to
me that the foam is used for flotation of boat docks. It was determined that
the orange foam invited muskrats to gnaw on it , and they stay away fron the
blue foam. I know it sounds crazy, but that is what I was told.

Kevin Boddicker
Luana, Iowa
Tri Q200 N7868B
Taxiing



on 1/23/06 6:28 PM, damiantwinsport@... at damiantwinsport@...
wrote:

> Hey Guys, does anyone have a source for the orange Polystyrene used for canard
> and wing cores?
>
> Regards,
> Damian Gregory N8427 Q200
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: chris rayner <chris-rayner@...>
> To: Q-LIST@...
> Sent: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 23:54:18 -0000
> Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks
>
>
> Jim, Mike, Bruce, thanks for your replies. I'm keeping close eye on the
> temperatures - especially CHT. No problem so far - all seems fine really so
> I think I'll keep running it, listening for strange noises. There's one
> impulse mag and one fixed, hand swinging with l/h mag on only. I expect that
> there will be several hours of taxi testing before flight, so I'll have to
> take care and hope for not too much glazing. This will probably be mid year,
> by the time that PFA paperwork gets done. Engine installation about
> complete - except for the leaks and a few wires to be tidied. Need to hook
> up the radio and associated bits (PTT, aerial, h/phones etc) and finish the
> canopy locks. Fit the belts; bleed the brakes; finalise the battery
> installation - can easily continue to think of lots of little items to
> finish.....
>
> The type of pilot I am (more accurately builder as I'm not yet flying) is
> like I mentioned in the Q-Talk article. Bought a part-built and continued
> from then. Only significant modifications were to add the "6-pack".
>
> PS. Raoul, I know of 3 Q's with 0-235 installed. One is in Cyprus (I
> believe) but was built in UK; two others still in UK. One being built and
> the other in need of canard repair.
>
> Chris Rayner
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Patillo" <logistics_engineering@...>
> To: <Q-LIST@...>
> Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 4:03 AM
> Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks
>
>
>>
>> Chris,
>>
>> First congratulations on the startup! Watch to make sure you do not
>> overheat the cylinders (don't get them over 375-400 degrees on these
>> little forays). Make sure you calibrate and have accurate oil temp
>> and CHT gauges. Break the engine in according to the Continental
>> manual and you won't have any problems. Note: Glazing cylinders on a
>> new engine is a bummer. Just ask Mark Summers.
>>
>> It is not recommended but I ran mine several hours on the ground. I
>> did a complete rebuild myself and did not want surprises. As of 700
>> hours of continual use, I've not had any problems.
>>
>> O200's leak oil and they make noise when turned by hand, but just
>> remember an 0200 is pretty bullet proof. That's why they use them in
>> Cessna trainer airplanes. You really got to screw up to really screw
>> up.
>>
>> If you have mags that are both impulse coupled you will hear two
>> simetaneous clicks. That is a good thing. You will also feel front to
>> back end play when pushing on the prop. You also hear the valves
>> opening and closing but I'm not sure how much you can hear the
>> hydraulic lifters.
>>
>> There are four kinds of pilots in this group. Those who bought flying
>> airplanes, those who bought flying airplanes and decided to tear them
>> apart and spend the next several years wishing they hadn't and those
>> who built them from scratch. Which are you?
>>
>> I was reminded again this weekend of the latter category (visiting
>> Sam Kittle and his airplane) and what a lot of work it really is. I
>> spent around 4000 hours on mine and honestly don't think I would have
>> the stamina to do it again. The rewards are great but the time
>> required is incredible.
>>
>> How close to flight are you?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jim Patillo N46JP Q200
>>
>>
>> --- In Q-LIST@..., "chris rayner" <chris-rayner@b...>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Guys, my "hand-start O-200" starts and runs fine - about 30 minutes
>> so far on my driveway. It has a few oil drips - seem to be from one
>> mag and the oil tank gaskets. Probably need to re-tighten or re-seat
>> them. However, as I have never worked with the O-200 before, I could
>> do with some advice on what are normal sounds when it is turned over
>> by hand. I expect, and get the clicks from the impulse coupling at
>> the right time, but I also get other clonks when it is turned over
>> slowly. These are at the same point each rotation and I can only
>> think of the hydraulic tappets that could cause the noise. Do they
>> normally (or often) do that; does it matter and is it something that
>> goes away when the oil pressure builds up? I can't hear it when the
>> engine is running, but there's other stuff going on then!
>>>
>>> Thanks for advice from anyone with more experience than me on these
>> engines.
>>>
>>> An observation - it sure is a closely cowled installation. A small
>> impact lump and cracked paint has appeared on the cowling over the #4
>> cylinder rocker cover - top front corner. Also needed to clamp the
>> plug lead down tight on that cylinder to avoid it rubbing inside the
>> cowl, even with the short REM37BY plugs. The engine sounds great
>> though.
>>>
>>> Chris Rayner (trying to recover from standing behind a very
>> powerful fan at near freezing temperatures).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Quickie Builders Association WEB site
>> http://www.quickiebuilders.org
>>
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
> Quickie Builders Association WEB site
> http://www.quickiebuilders.org
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Quickie Builders Association WEB site
> http://www.quickiebuilders.org
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>



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Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks

Paul Buckley
 

I believe that the blue foam is made by 'DOW CHEMICALS' and is sold as 'flotation billets', in different sizes.

Paul Buckley
Cheshire
England

----- Original Message -----
From: damiantwinsport@...
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 7:08 AM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks


Thanks for the info, I guess I will have to invent myself as a dock builder.

Regards,
Damian Gregory N8427 Q200


-----Original Message-----
From: Boddicker <trumanst@...>
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 21:59:56 -0600
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks


Damian,
I got the blue foam from a company named Cope Plastics. They have since
decided not to sell retail however. I think Sam Hoskins got his foam from
Spruce of Wicks. They had to special order it for him I believe. In order to
get it large enough.
The orange foam is no longer available as far as I know. It was explained to
me that the foam is used for flotation of boat docks. It was determined that
the orange foam invited muskrats to gnaw on it , and they stay away fron the
blue foam. I know it sounds crazy, but that is what I was told.

Kevin Boddicker
Luana, Iowa
Tri Q200 N7868B
Taxiing



on 1/23/06 6:28 PM, damiantwinsport@... at damiantwinsport@...
wrote:

> Hey Guys, does anyone have a source for the orange Polystyrene used for canard
> and wing cores?
>
> Regards,
> Damian Gregory N8427 Q200
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: chris rayner <chris-rayner@...>
> To: Q-LIST@...
> Sent: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 23:54:18 -0000
> Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks
>
>
> Jim, Mike, Bruce, thanks for your replies. I'm keeping close eye on the
> temperatures - especially CHT. No problem so far - all seems fine really so
> I think I'll keep running it, listening for strange noises. There's one
> impulse mag and one fixed, hand swinging with l/h mag on only. I expect that
> there will be several hours of taxi testing before flight, so I'll have to
> take care and hope for not too much glazing. This will probably be mid year,
> by the time that PFA paperwork gets done. Engine installation about
> complete - except for the leaks and a few wires to be tidied. Need to hook
> up the radio and associated bits (PTT, aerial, h/phones etc) and finish the
> canopy locks. Fit the belts; bleed the brakes; finalise the battery
> installation - can easily continue to think of lots of little items to
> finish.....
>
> The type of pilot I am (more accurately builder as I'm not yet flying) is
> like I mentioned in the Q-Talk article. Bought a part-built and continued
> from then. Only significant modifications were to add the "6-pack".
>
> PS. Raoul, I know of 3 Q's with 0-235 installed. One is in Cyprus (I
> believe) but was built in UK; two others still in UK. One being built and
> the other in need of canard repair.
>
> Chris Rayner
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Patillo" <logistics_engineering@...>
> To: <Q-LIST@...>
> Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 4:03 AM
> Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks
>
>
>>
>> Chris,
>>
>> First congratulations on the startup! Watch to make sure you do not
>> overheat the cylinders (don't get them over 375-400 degrees on these
>> little forays). Make sure you calibrate and have accurate oil temp
>> and CHT gauges. Break the engine in according to the Continental
>> manual and you won't have any problems. Note: Glazing cylinders on a
>> new engine is a bummer. Just ask Mark Summers.
>>
>> It is not recommended but I ran mine several hours on the ground. I
>> did a complete rebuild myself and did not want surprises. As of 700
>> hours of continual use, I've not had any problems.
>>
>> O200's leak oil and they make noise when turned by hand, but just
>> remember an 0200 is pretty bullet proof. That's why they use them in
>> Cessna trainer airplanes. You really got to screw up to really screw
>> up.
>>
>> If you have mags that are both impulse coupled you will hear two
>> simetaneous clicks. That is a good thing. You will also feel front to
>> back end play when pushing on the prop. You also hear the valves
>> opening and closing but I'm not sure how much you can hear the
>> hydraulic lifters.
>>
>> There are four kinds of pilots in this group. Those who bought flying
>> airplanes, those who bought flying airplanes and decided to tear them
>> apart and spend the next several years wishing they hadn't and those
>> who built them from scratch. Which are you?
>>
>> I was reminded again this weekend of the latter category (visiting
>> Sam Kittle and his airplane) and what a lot of work it really is. I
>> spent around 4000 hours on mine and honestly don't think I would have
>> the stamina to do it again. The rewards are great but the time
>> required is incredible.
>>
>> How close to flight are you?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jim Patillo N46JP Q200
>>
>>
>> --- In Q-LIST@..., "chris rayner" <chris-rayner@b...>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Guys, my "hand-start O-200" starts and runs fine - about 30 minutes
>> so far on my driveway. It has a few oil drips - seem to be from one
>> mag and the oil tank gaskets. Probably need to re-tighten or re-seat
>> them. However, as I have never worked with the O-200 before, I could
>> do with some advice on what are normal sounds when it is turned over
>> by hand. I expect, and get the clicks from the impulse coupling at
>> the right time, but I also get other clonks when it is turned over
>> slowly. These are at the same point each rotation and I can only
>> think of the hydraulic tappets that could cause the noise. Do they
>> normally (or often) do that; does it matter and is it something that
>> goes away when the oil pressure builds up? I can't hear it when the
>> engine is running, but there's other stuff going on then!
>>>
>>> Thanks for advice from anyone with more experience than me on these
>> engines.
>>>
>>> An observation - it sure is a closely cowled installation. A small
>> impact lump and cracked paint has appeared on the cowling over the #4
>> cylinder rocker cover - top front corner. Also needed to clamp the
>> plug lead down tight on that cylinder to avoid it rubbing inside the
>> cowl, even with the short REM37BY plugs. The engine sounds great
>> though.
>>>
>>> Chris Rayner (trying to recover from standing behind a very
>> powerful fan at near freezing temperatures).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks

Jim Patillo
 

Hey Ron,

The only time you need to worry is when you pull the stick back!

Jim

--- In Q-LIST@..., "Ron" <rondefly@r...> wrote:

Hey Jim, Now I know what category I fit into, the 4th. Sure was
worried
about that.



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Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 5:49 PM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks



Oh yes! and the 4th type of pilotis the one who bought someone
elses
mess and had to rework most of it!

Regards,

Jim Patillo



-- In Q-LIST@..., "Jim Patillo"
<logistics_engineering@m...> wrote:


Chris,

First congratulations on the startup! Watch to make sure you do
not
overheat the cylinders (don't get them over 375-400 degrees on
these
little forays). Make sure you calibrate and have accurate oil
temp
and CHT gauges. Break the engine in according to the Continental
manual and you won't have any problems. Note: Glazing cylinders
on
a
new engine is a bummer. Just ask Mark Summers.

It is not recommended but I ran mine several hours on the ground.
I
did a complete rebuild myself and did not want surprises. As of
700
hours of continual use, I've not had any problems.

O200's leak oil and they make noise when turned by hand, but just
remember an 0200 is pretty bullet proof. That's why they use them
in
Cessna trainer airplanes. You really got to screw up to really
screw
up.

If you have mags that are both impulse coupled you will hear two
simetaneous clicks. That is a good thing. You will also feel
front
to
back end play when pushing on the prop. You also hear the valves
opening and closing but I'm not sure how much you can hear the
hydraulic lifters.

There are four kinds of pilots in this group. Those who bought
flying
airplanes, those who bought flying airplanes and decided to tear
them
apart and spend the next several years wishing they hadn't and
those
who built them from scratch. Which are you?

I was reminded again this weekend of the latter category
(visiting
Sam Kittle and his airplane) and what a lot of work it really is.
I
spent around 4000 hours on mine and honestly don't think I would
have
the stamina to do it again. The rewards are great but the time
required is incredible.

How close to flight are you?

Regards,
Jim Patillo N46JP Q200


--- In Q-LIST@..., "chris rayner" <chris-rayner@b...>
wrote:

Guys, my "hand-start O-200" starts and runs fine - about 30
minutes
so far on my driveway. It has a few oil drips - seem to be from
one
mag and the oil tank gaskets. Probably need to re-tighten or re-
seat
them. However, as I have never worked with the O-200 before, I
could
do with some advice on what are normal sounds when it is turned
over
by hand. I expect, and get the clicks from the impulse coupling
at
the right time, but I also get other clonks when it is turned
over
slowly. These are at the same point each rotation and I can only
think of the hydraulic tappets that could cause the noise. Do
they
normally (or often) do that; does it matter and is it something
that
goes away when the oil pressure builds up? I can't hear it when
the
engine is running, but there's other stuff going on then!

Thanks for advice from anyone with more experience than me on
these
engines.

An observation - it sure is a closely cowled installation. A
small
impact lump and cracked paint has appeared on the cowling over
the
#4
cylinder rocker cover - top front corner. Also needed to clamp
the
plug lead down tight on that cylinder to avoid it rubbing inside
the
cowl, even with the short REM37BY plugs. The engine sounds great
though.

Chris Rayner (trying to recover from standing behind a very
powerful fan at near freezing temperatures).








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Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks

Patrick Panzera <panzera@...>
 

Actually I stopped by Livermore on Sunday around lunch time but no Q's
were out.
Sunday was such a beautiful day, probably the clearest day in decades,
so as I drove through Livermore around 3:30, I figured stopping in would
be pointless, as everyone would be out flying.

Pat


Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks

Ron <rondefly@...>
 

Actually I stopped by Livermore on Sunday around lunch time but no Q's were
out.



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Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 6:22 AM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks



Boy, I wish they would fly over to Minden to motivate me also. I feel like
an lost child.



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Sam Kittle
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 8:39 PM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks



Thanks for the visit Jim, your checking on my progress and answering a few
questions really helps me stay motivated. I was glassing my arm rests
yesterday afternoon when Mark Summers made several passes over the ranch.
That was a pretty nice motivator also. Some day, I will be up there too.

Regards,
Sam

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Patillo" <logistics_engineering@...>
To: <Q-LIST@...>
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 8:03 PM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks


There are four kinds of pilots in this group. Those who bought flying
airplanes, those who bought flying airplanes and decided to tear them
apart and spend the next several years wishing they hadn't and those
who built them from scratch. Which are you?

I was reminded again this weekend of the latter category (visiting
Sam Kittle and his airplane) and what a lot of work it really is. I
spent around 4000 hours on mine and honestly don't think I would have
the stamina to do it again. The rewards are great but the time
required is incredible.

How close to flight are you?

Regards,
Jim Patillo N46JP Q200


--- In Q-LIST@..., "chris rayner" <chris-rayner@b...>
wrote:

Guys, my "hand-start O-200" starts and runs fine - about 30 minutes
so far on my driveway. It has a few oil drips - seem to be from one
mag and the oil tank gaskets. Probably need to re-tighten or re-seat
them. However, as I have never worked with the O-200 before, I could
do with some advice on what are normal sounds when it is turned over
by hand. I expect, and get the clicks from the impulse coupling at
the right time, but I also get other clonks when it is turned over
slowly. These are at the same point each rotation and I can only
think of the hydraulic tappets that could cause the noise. Do they
normally (or often) do that; does it matter and is it something that
goes away when the oil pressure builds up? I can't hear it when the
engine is running, but there's other stuff going on then!

Thanks for advice from anyone with more experience than me on these
engines.

An observation - it sure is a closely cowled installation. A small
impact lump and cracked paint has appeared on the cowling over the #4
cylinder rocker cover - top front corner. Also needed to clamp the
plug lead down tight on that cylinder to avoid it rubbing inside the
cowl, even with the short REM37BY plugs. The engine sounds great
though.

Chris Rayner (trying to recover from standing behind a very
powerful fan at near freezing temperatures).








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Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks

Ron <rondefly@...>
 

Damian, I got mine from a place in Sacramento, they were a MFG of foam
products. Sorry I can't remember the name, maybe can google foam products in
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Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 11:09 PM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks



Thanks for the info, I guess I will have to invent myself as a dock builder.


Regards,
Damian Gregory N8427 Q200

-----Original Message-----
From: Boddicker <trumanst@...>
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 21:59:56 -0600
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks


Damian,
I got the blue foam from a company named Cope Plastics. They have since
decided not to sell retail however. I think Sam Hoskins got his foam from
Spruce of Wicks. They had to special order it for him I believe. In order to
get it large enough.
The orange foam is no longer available as far as I know. It was explained to
me that the foam is used for flotation of boat docks. It was determined that
the orange foam invited muskrats to gnaw on it , and they stay away fron the
blue foam. I know it sounds crazy, but that is what I was told.

Kevin Boddicker
Luana, Iowa
Tri Q200 N7868B
Taxiing



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wrote:

Hey Guys, does anyone have a source for the orange Polystyrene used for
canard
and wing cores?

Regards,
Damian Gregory N8427 Q200


-----Original Message-----
From: chris rayner <chris-rayner@...>
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 23:54:18 -0000
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks


Jim, Mike, Bruce, thanks for your replies. I'm keeping close eye on the
temperatures - especially CHT. No problem so far - all seems fine really
so
I think I'll keep running it, listening for strange noises. There's one
impulse mag and one fixed, hand swinging with l/h mag on only. I expect
that
there will be several hours of taxi testing before flight, so I'll have
to
take care and hope for not too much glazing. This will probably be mid
year,
by the time that PFA paperwork gets done. Engine installation about
complete - except for the leaks and a few wires to be tidied. Need to hook
up the radio and associated bits (PTT, aerial, h/phones etc) and finish
the
canopy locks. Fit the belts; bleed the brakes; finalise the battery
installation - can easily continue to think of lots of little items to
finish.....

The type of pilot I am (more accurately builder as I'm not yet flying) is
like I mentioned in the Q-Talk article. Bought a part-built and continued
from then. Only significant modifications were to add the "6-pack".

PS. Raoul, I know of 3 Q's with 0-235 installed. One is in Cyprus (I
believe) but was built in UK; two others still in UK. One being built and
the other in need of canard repair.

Chris Rayner


----- Original Message -----
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To: <Q-LIST@...>
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 4:03 AM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks



Chris,

First congratulations on the startup! Watch to make sure you do not
overheat the cylinders (don't get them over 375-400 degrees on these
little forays). Make sure you calibrate and have accurate oil temp
and CHT gauges. Break the engine in according to the Continental
manual and you won't have any problems. Note: Glazing cylinders on a
new engine is a bummer. Just ask Mark Summers.

It is not recommended but I ran mine several hours on the ground. I
did a complete rebuild myself and did not want surprises. As of 700
hours of continual use, I've not had any problems.

O200's leak oil and they make noise when turned by hand, but just
remember an 0200 is pretty bullet proof. That's why they use them in
Cessna trainer airplanes. You really got to screw up to really screw
up.

If you have mags that are both impulse coupled you will hear two
simetaneous clicks. That is a good thing. You will also feel front to
back end play when pushing on the prop. You also hear the valves
opening and closing but I'm not sure how much you can hear the
hydraulic lifters.

There are four kinds of pilots in this group. Those who bought flying
airplanes, those who bought flying airplanes and decided to tear them
apart and spend the next several years wishing they hadn't and those
who built them from scratch. Which are you?

I was reminded again this weekend of the latter category (visiting
Sam Kittle and his airplane) and what a lot of work it really is. I
spent around 4000 hours on mine and honestly don't think I would have
the stamina to do it again. The rewards are great but the time
required is incredible.

How close to flight are you?

Regards,
Jim Patillo N46JP Q200


--- In Q-LIST@..., "chris rayner" <chris-rayner@b...>
wrote:

Guys, my "hand-start O-200" starts and runs fine - about 30 minutes
so far on my driveway. It has a few oil drips - seem to be from one
mag and the oil tank gaskets. Probably need to re-tighten or re-seat
them. However, as I have never worked with the O-200 before, I could
do with some advice on what are normal sounds when it is turned over
by hand. I expect, and get the clicks from the impulse coupling at
the right time, but I also get other clonks when it is turned over
slowly. These are at the same point each rotation and I can only
think of the hydraulic tappets that could cause the noise. Do they
normally (or often) do that; does it matter and is it something that
goes away when the oil pressure builds up? I can't hear it when the
engine is running, but there's other stuff going on then!

Thanks for advice from anyone with more experience than me on these
engines.

An observation - it sure is a closely cowled installation. A small
impact lump and cracked paint has appeared on the cowling over the #4
cylinder rocker cover - top front corner. Also needed to clamp the
plug lead down tight on that cylinder to avoid it rubbing inside the
cowl, even with the short REM37BY plugs. The engine sounds great
though.

Chris Rayner (trying to recover from standing behind a very
powerful fan at near freezing temperatures).








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Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks

Ron <rondefly@...>
 

Boy, I wish they would fly over to Minden to motivate me also. I feel like
an lost child.



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Sam Kittle
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 8:39 PM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks



Thanks for the visit Jim, your checking on my progress and answering a few
questions really helps me stay motivated. I was glassing my arm rests
yesterday afternoon when Mark Summers made several passes over the ranch.
That was a pretty nice motivator also. Some day, I will be up there too.

Regards,
Sam

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From: "Jim Patillo" <logistics_engineering@...>
To: <Q-LIST@...>
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 8:03 PM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks


There are four kinds of pilots in this group. Those who bought flying
airplanes, those who bought flying airplanes and decided to tear them
apart and spend the next several years wishing they hadn't and those
who built them from scratch. Which are you?

I was reminded again this weekend of the latter category (visiting
Sam Kittle and his airplane) and what a lot of work it really is. I
spent around 4000 hours on mine and honestly don't think I would have
the stamina to do it again. The rewards are great but the time
required is incredible.

How close to flight are you?

Regards,
Jim Patillo N46JP Q200


--- In Q-LIST@..., "chris rayner" <chris-rayner@b...>
wrote:

Guys, my "hand-start O-200" starts and runs fine - about 30 minutes
so far on my driveway. It has a few oil drips - seem to be from one
mag and the oil tank gaskets. Probably need to re-tighten or re-seat
them. However, as I have never worked with the O-200 before, I could
do with some advice on what are normal sounds when it is turned over
by hand. I expect, and get the clicks from the impulse coupling at
the right time, but I also get other clonks when it is turned over
slowly. These are at the same point each rotation and I can only
think of the hydraulic tappets that could cause the noise. Do they
normally (or often) do that; does it matter and is it something that
goes away when the oil pressure builds up? I can't hear it when the
engine is running, but there's other stuff going on then!

Thanks for advice from anyone with more experience than me on these
engines.

An observation - it sure is a closely cowled installation. A small
impact lump and cracked paint has appeared on the cowling over the #4
cylinder rocker cover - top front corner. Also needed to clamp the
plug lead down tight on that cylinder to avoid it rubbing inside the
cowl, even with the short REM37BY plugs. The engine sounds great
though.

Chris Rayner (trying to recover from standing behind a very
powerful fan at near freezing temperatures).








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Ron <rondefly@...>
 

Hey Jim, Now I know what category I fit into, the 4th. Sure was worried
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Oh yes! and the 4th type of pilotis the one who bought someone elses
mess and had to rework most of it!

Regards,

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-- In Q-LIST@..., "Jim Patillo"
<logistics_engineering@m...> wrote:


Chris,

First congratulations on the startup! Watch to make sure you do not
overheat the cylinders (don't get them over 375-400 degrees on
these
little forays). Make sure you calibrate and have accurate oil temp
and CHT gauges. Break the engine in according to the Continental
manual and you won't have any problems. Note: Glazing cylinders on
a
new engine is a bummer. Just ask Mark Summers.

It is not recommended but I ran mine several hours on the ground. I
did a complete rebuild myself and did not want surprises. As of 700
hours of continual use, I've not had any problems.

O200's leak oil and they make noise when turned by hand, but just
remember an 0200 is pretty bullet proof. That's why they use them
in
Cessna trainer airplanes. You really got to screw up to really
screw
up.

If you have mags that are both impulse coupled you will hear two
simetaneous clicks. That is a good thing. You will also feel front
to
back end play when pushing on the prop. You also hear the valves
opening and closing but I'm not sure how much you can hear the
hydraulic lifters.

There are four kinds of pilots in this group. Those who bought
flying
airplanes, those who bought flying airplanes and decided to tear
them
apart and spend the next several years wishing they hadn't and
those
who built them from scratch. Which are you?

I was reminded again this weekend of the latter category (visiting
Sam Kittle and his airplane) and what a lot of work it really is. I
spent around 4000 hours on mine and honestly don't think I would
have
the stamina to do it again. The rewards are great but the time
required is incredible.

How close to flight are you?

Regards,
Jim Patillo N46JP Q200


--- In Q-LIST@..., "chris rayner" <chris-rayner@b...>
wrote:

Guys, my "hand-start O-200" starts and runs fine - about 30
minutes
so far on my driveway. It has a few oil drips - seem to be from one
mag and the oil tank gaskets. Probably need to re-tighten or re-
seat
them. However, as I have never worked with the O-200 before, I
could
do with some advice on what are normal sounds when it is turned
over
by hand. I expect, and get the clicks from the impulse coupling at
the right time, but I also get other clonks when it is turned over
slowly. These are at the same point each rotation and I can only
think of the hydraulic tappets that could cause the noise. Do they
normally (or often) do that; does it matter and is it something
that
goes away when the oil pressure builds up? I can't hear it when the
engine is running, but there's other stuff going on then!

Thanks for advice from anyone with more experience than me on
these
engines.

An observation - it sure is a closely cowled installation. A
small
impact lump and cracked paint has appeared on the cowling over the
#4
cylinder rocker cover - top front corner. Also needed to clamp the
plug lead down tight on that cylinder to avoid it rubbing inside
the
cowl, even with the short REM37BY plugs. The engine sounds great
though.

Chris Rayner (trying to recover from standing behind a very
powerful fan at near freezing temperatures).








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Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks

Peter Harris <peterjfharris@...>
 

Damian I used a suggestion by Pat. Apply the micro with a serrated scraper so the glass is visible and can apply evenly and very easy to sand. Then apply another coat of micro just enough to fill the grooves and final sand not too heavy.
Peter

----- Original Message -----
From: damiantwinsport@...
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 8:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks


Thanks Brad, Good info. We don"t like to fill and sand too much.

Regards,
Damian Gregory N8427 Q200


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To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 22:25:06 -0800
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks



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Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 9:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks


> Thanks,Nomenclature is everything .
>
> Regards,
> Damian Gregory N8427 Q200


The product is Styreen foam and is manufactured by Dow Chemical under the
trade name "Styrafoam"

Be careful what you are ordering. Some orange foams come in extruded
billets, which are of poor quality
for your use. They have a slightly curved surface, are smooth (melted) on
the outside, and the cell size is
not uniform .Usually called flotation billet.
The billets you want come in 10" x 20" x8'( if memory serves me), are sawn
from larger billets, have a uniform
cell size, is blue in colour, and is usually called Fabrication Fillet.
Your part will considerably lighter if you use the sawn billets, as you will
use much less micro to fill the cells.

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Styrofoam data sheet

Peter Harris <peterjfharris@...>
 

Damian I have found an info sheet on styrofoam which is (was) made in 7 different grades each designed for a certain application/purpose. Some details.....
type IB for panel core and fabrication, LT for low temp panel core, LB for high quality panel core,RTM for refrigerated trucks,HD300F for high load panels and floor inserts,SURF for surfboards, and CRAFT for craft material.
I chose LB for the canard remake on my Q.
It is fine textured and described as can be cut or planed or hotwire cut for a good bonding surface. Dimensionally stable.
Density is 32 KG/M3 (IB is 28)
compressive strength is 300KN/M2 (IB is 250)
tensile strength is 500 KPA (IB is 450)
The temp range of all of them is -50 to +75C There is a lot more data.
This stuff is very different from the orange coarse foam originally used. We experimented and decided not to precoat it with micro which is used to fill the coarse orange foam.
I got my product from Aerodynamic Developments Ltd down here it was imported from the states in billets 2400mm x 600 x 75 to 150mm thick
made by Dow.
Peter

----- Original Message -----
From: damiantwinsport@...
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks


Thanks,Nomenclature is everything .

Regards,
Damian Gregory N8427 Q200


-----Original Message-----
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To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 22:18:44 -0700
Subject: Re: Fw: [Q-LIST] Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks


The actual term is "Buoyancy Billet", and can also be found at
insulation products distributors. Call around!
Larry Hamm

oneskydog@... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 1/24/2006 9:44:16 AM Mountain Standard Time,
> paulbuckley@... writes:
>
> That name may be 'DOW PLASTICS'
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Paul Buckley
> To: Q-LIST@...
> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 4:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks
>
>
> I believe that the blue foam is made by 'DOW CHEMICALS' and is sold as
> 'flotation billets', in different sizes.
>
> Paul Buckley
> Cheshire
> England
>
>
>
>
> Paul, and all,
> Correct DOW owns the name "Styrofoam" Flotation billets are the product DOW
> made both blue and orange flotation billets. apparently Q's used orange
> billets and D'flies use blue billets. Go to a marine distributor and give
him
> your sizes needed for your dock.
>
> Extruded polystyrene apx 2 lb density orange or blue. Caution: Bead board is
> white polystyrene pellets expanded with steam and is not suitable for
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>
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Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks

damiantwinsport@...
 

Thanks for the info, I guess I will have to invent myself as a dock builder.

Regards,
Damian Gregory N8427 Q200

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From: Boddicker <trumanst@...>
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 21:59:56 -0600
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks


Damian,
I got the blue foam from a company named Cope Plastics. They have since
decided not to sell retail however. I think Sam Hoskins got his foam from
Spruce of Wicks. They had to special order it for him I believe. In order to
get it large enough.
The orange foam is no longer available as far as I know. It was explained to
me that the foam is used for flotation of boat docks. It was determined that
the orange foam invited muskrats to gnaw on it , and they stay away fron the
blue foam. I know it sounds crazy, but that is what I was told.

Kevin Boddicker
Luana, Iowa
Tri Q200 N7868B
Taxiing



on 1/23/06 6:28 PM, damiantwinsport@... at damiantwinsport@...
wrote:

Hey Guys, does anyone have a source for the orange Polystyrene used for canard
and wing cores?

Regards,
Damian Gregory N8427 Q200


-----Original Message-----
From: chris rayner <chris-rayner@...>
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 23:54:18 -0000
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks


Jim, Mike, Bruce, thanks for your replies. I'm keeping close eye on the
temperatures - especially CHT. No problem so far - all seems fine really so
I think I'll keep running it, listening for strange noises. There's one
impulse mag and one fixed, hand swinging with l/h mag on only. I expect that
there will be several hours of taxi testing before flight, so I'll have to
take care and hope for not too much glazing. This will probably be mid year,
by the time that PFA paperwork gets done. Engine installation about
complete - except for the leaks and a few wires to be tidied. Need to hook
up the radio and associated bits (PTT, aerial, h/phones etc) and finish the
canopy locks. Fit the belts; bleed the brakes; finalise the battery
installation - can easily continue to think of lots of little items to
finish.....

The type of pilot I am (more accurately builder as I'm not yet flying) is
like I mentioned in the Q-Talk article. Bought a part-built and continued
from then. Only significant modifications were to add the "6-pack".

PS. Raoul, I know of 3 Q's with 0-235 installed. One is in Cyprus (I
believe) but was built in UK; two others still in UK. One being built and
the other in need of canard repair.

Chris Rayner


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Patillo" <logistics_engineering@...>
To: <Q-LIST@...>
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 4:03 AM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks



Chris,

First congratulations on the startup! Watch to make sure you do not
overheat the cylinders (don't get them over 375-400 degrees on these
little forays). Make sure you calibrate and have accurate oil temp
and CHT gauges. Break the engine in according to the Continental
manual and you won't have any problems. Note: Glazing cylinders on a
new engine is a bummer. Just ask Mark Summers.

It is not recommended but I ran mine several hours on the ground. I
did a complete rebuild myself and did not want surprises. As of 700
hours of continual use, I've not had any problems.

O200's leak oil and they make noise when turned by hand, but just
remember an 0200 is pretty bullet proof. That's why they use them in
Cessna trainer airplanes. You really got to screw up to really screw
up.

If you have mags that are both impulse coupled you will hear two
simetaneous clicks. That is a good thing. You will also feel front to
back end play when pushing on the prop. You also hear the valves
opening and closing but I'm not sure how much you can hear the
hydraulic lifters.

There are four kinds of pilots in this group. Those who bought flying
airplanes, those who bought flying airplanes and decided to tear them
apart and spend the next several years wishing they hadn't and those
who built them from scratch. Which are you?

I was reminded again this weekend of the latter category (visiting
Sam Kittle and his airplane) and what a lot of work it really is. I
spent around 4000 hours on mine and honestly don't think I would have
the stamina to do it again. The rewards are great but the time
required is incredible.

How close to flight are you?

Regards,
Jim Patillo N46JP Q200


--- In Q-LIST@..., "chris rayner" <chris-rayner@b...>
wrote:

Guys, my "hand-start O-200" starts and runs fine - about 30 minutes
so far on my driveway. It has a few oil drips - seem to be from one
mag and the oil tank gaskets. Probably need to re-tighten or re-seat
them. However, as I have never worked with the O-200 before, I could
do with some advice on what are normal sounds when it is turned over
by hand. I expect, and get the clicks from the impulse coupling at
the right time, but I also get other clonks when it is turned over
slowly. These are at the same point each rotation and I can only
think of the hydraulic tappets that could cause the noise. Do they
normally (or often) do that; does it matter and is it something that
goes away when the oil pressure builds up? I can't hear it when the
engine is running, but there's other stuff going on then!

Thanks for advice from anyone with more experience than me on these
engines.

An observation - it sure is a closely cowled installation. A small
impact lump and cracked paint has appeared on the cowling over the #4
cylinder rocker cover - top front corner. Also needed to clamp the
plug lead down tight on that cylinder to avoid it rubbing inside the
cowl, even with the short REM37BY plugs. The engine sounds great
though.

Chris Rayner (trying to recover from standing behind a very
powerful fan at near freezing temperatures).








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Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks

Sam Kittle
 

Thanks for the visit Jim, your checking on my progress and answering a few questions really helps me stay motivated. I was glassing my arm rests yesterday afternoon when Mark Summers made several passes over the ranch. That was a pretty nice motivator also. Some day, I will be up there too.

Regards,
Sam

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Patillo" <logistics_engineering@...>
To: <Q-LIST@...>
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 8:03 PM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks


There are four kinds of pilots in this group. Those who bought flying
airplanes, those who bought flying airplanes and decided to tear them
apart and spend the next several years wishing they hadn't and those
who built them from scratch. Which are you?

I was reminded again this weekend of the latter category (visiting
Sam Kittle and his airplane) and what a lot of work it really is. I
spent around 4000 hours on mine and honestly don't think I would have
the stamina to do it again. The rewards are great but the time
required is incredible.

How close to flight are you?

Regards,
Jim Patillo N46JP Q200


--- In Q-LIST@..., "chris rayner" <chris-rayner@b...>
wrote:

Guys, my "hand-start O-200" starts and runs fine - about 30 minutes
so far on my driveway. It has a few oil drips - seem to be from one
mag and the oil tank gaskets. Probably need to re-tighten or re-seat
them. However, as I have never worked with the O-200 before, I could
do with some advice on what are normal sounds when it is turned over
by hand. I expect, and get the clicks from the impulse coupling at
the right time, but I also get other clonks when it is turned over
slowly. These are at the same point each rotation and I can only
think of the hydraulic tappets that could cause the noise. Do they
normally (or often) do that; does it matter and is it something that
goes away when the oil pressure builds up? I can't hear it when the
engine is running, but there's other stuff going on then!

Thanks for advice from anyone with more experience than me on these
engines.

An observation - it sure is a closely cowled installation. A small
impact lump and cracked paint has appeared on the cowling over the #4
cylinder rocker cover - top front corner. Also needed to clamp the
plug lead down tight on that cylinder to avoid it rubbing inside the
cowl, even with the short REM37BY plugs. The engine sounds great
though.

Chris Rayner (trying to recover from standing behind a very
powerful fan at near freezing temperatures).







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Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks

Boddicker <trumanst@...>
 

Damian,
I got the blue foam from a company named Cope Plastics. They have since
decided not to sell retail however. I think Sam Hoskins got his foam from
Spruce of Wicks. They had to special order it for him I believe. In order to
get it large enough.
The orange foam is no longer available as far as I know. It was explained to
me that the foam is used for flotation of boat docks. It was determined that
the orange foam invited muskrats to gnaw on it , and they stay away fron the
blue foam. I know it sounds crazy, but that is what I was told.

Kevin Boddicker
Luana, Iowa
Tri Q200 N7868B
Taxiing



on 1/23/06 6:28 PM, damiantwinsport@... at damiantwinsport@...
wrote:

Hey Guys, does anyone have a source for the orange Polystyrene used for canard
and wing cores?

Regards,
Damian Gregory N8427 Q200


-----Original Message-----
From: chris rayner <chris-rayner@...>
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 23:54:18 -0000
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks


Jim, Mike, Bruce, thanks for your replies. I'm keeping close eye on the
temperatures - especially CHT. No problem so far - all seems fine really so
I think I'll keep running it, listening for strange noises. There's one
impulse mag and one fixed, hand swinging with l/h mag on only. I expect that
there will be several hours of taxi testing before flight, so I'll have to
take care and hope for not too much glazing. This will probably be mid year,
by the time that PFA paperwork gets done. Engine installation about
complete - except for the leaks and a few wires to be tidied. Need to hook
up the radio and associated bits (PTT, aerial, h/phones etc) and finish the
canopy locks. Fit the belts; bleed the brakes; finalise the battery
installation - can easily continue to think of lots of little items to
finish.....

The type of pilot I am (more accurately builder as I'm not yet flying) is
like I mentioned in the Q-Talk article. Bought a part-built and continued
from then. Only significant modifications were to add the "6-pack".

PS. Raoul, I know of 3 Q's with 0-235 installed. One is in Cyprus (I
believe) but was built in UK; two others still in UK. One being built and
the other in need of canard repair.

Chris Rayner


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Patillo" <logistics_engineering@...>
To: <Q-LIST@...>
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 4:03 AM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks



Chris,

First congratulations on the startup! Watch to make sure you do not
overheat the cylinders (don't get them over 375-400 degrees on these
little forays). Make sure you calibrate and have accurate oil temp
and CHT gauges. Break the engine in according to the Continental
manual and you won't have any problems. Note: Glazing cylinders on a
new engine is a bummer. Just ask Mark Summers.

It is not recommended but I ran mine several hours on the ground. I
did a complete rebuild myself and did not want surprises. As of 700
hours of continual use, I've not had any problems.

O200's leak oil and they make noise when turned by hand, but just
remember an 0200 is pretty bullet proof. That's why they use them in
Cessna trainer airplanes. You really got to screw up to really screw
up.

If you have mags that are both impulse coupled you will hear two
simetaneous clicks. That is a good thing. You will also feel front to
back end play when pushing on the prop. You also hear the valves
opening and closing but I'm not sure how much you can hear the
hydraulic lifters.

There are four kinds of pilots in this group. Those who bought flying
airplanes, those who bought flying airplanes and decided to tear them
apart and spend the next several years wishing they hadn't and those
who built them from scratch. Which are you?

I was reminded again this weekend of the latter category (visiting
Sam Kittle and his airplane) and what a lot of work it really is. I
spent around 4000 hours on mine and honestly don't think I would have
the stamina to do it again. The rewards are great but the time
required is incredible.

How close to flight are you?

Regards,
Jim Patillo N46JP Q200


--- In Q-LIST@..., "chris rayner" <chris-rayner@b...>
wrote:

Guys, my "hand-start O-200" starts and runs fine - about 30 minutes
so far on my driveway. It has a few oil drips - seem to be from one
mag and the oil tank gaskets. Probably need to re-tighten or re-seat
them. However, as I have never worked with the O-200 before, I could
do with some advice on what are normal sounds when it is turned over
by hand. I expect, and get the clicks from the impulse coupling at
the right time, but I also get other clonks when it is turned over
slowly. These are at the same point each rotation and I can only
think of the hydraulic tappets that could cause the noise. Do they
normally (or often) do that; does it matter and is it something that
goes away when the oil pressure builds up? I can't hear it when the
engine is running, but there's other stuff going on then!

Thanks for advice from anyone with more experience than me on these
engines.

An observation - it sure is a closely cowled installation. A small
impact lump and cracked paint has appeared on the cowling over the #4
cylinder rocker cover - top front corner. Also needed to clamp the
plug lead down tight on that cylinder to avoid it rubbing inside the
cowl, even with the short REM37BY plugs. The engine sounds great
though.

Chris Rayner (trying to recover from standing behind a very
powerful fan at near freezing temperatures).








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Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks

Jim Patillo
 

Oh yes! and the 4th type of pilotis the one who bought someone elses
mess and had to rework most of it!

Regards,

Jim Patillo



-- In Q-LIST@..., "Jim Patillo"
<logistics_engineering@m...> wrote:


Chris,

First congratulations on the startup! Watch to make sure you do not
overheat the cylinders (don't get them over 375-400 degrees on
these
little forays). Make sure you calibrate and have accurate oil temp
and CHT gauges. Break the engine in according to the Continental
manual and you won't have any problems. Note: Glazing cylinders on
a
new engine is a bummer. Just ask Mark Summers.

It is not recommended but I ran mine several hours on the ground. I
did a complete rebuild myself and did not want surprises. As of 700
hours of continual use, I've not had any problems.

O200's leak oil and they make noise when turned by hand, but just
remember an 0200 is pretty bullet proof. That's why they use them
in
Cessna trainer airplanes. You really got to screw up to really
screw
up.

If you have mags that are both impulse coupled you will hear two
simetaneous clicks. That is a good thing. You will also feel front
to
back end play when pushing on the prop. You also hear the valves
opening and closing but I'm not sure how much you can hear the
hydraulic lifters.

There are four kinds of pilots in this group. Those who bought
flying
airplanes, those who bought flying airplanes and decided to tear
them
apart and spend the next several years wishing they hadn't and
those
who built them from scratch. Which are you?

I was reminded again this weekend of the latter category (visiting
Sam Kittle and his airplane) and what a lot of work it really is. I
spent around 4000 hours on mine and honestly don't think I would
have
the stamina to do it again. The rewards are great but the time
required is incredible.

How close to flight are you?

Regards,
Jim Patillo N46JP Q200


--- In Q-LIST@..., "chris rayner" <chris-rayner@b...>
wrote:

Guys, my "hand-start O-200" starts and runs fine - about 30
minutes
so far on my driveway. It has a few oil drips - seem to be from one
mag and the oil tank gaskets. Probably need to re-tighten or re-
seat
them. However, as I have never worked with the O-200 before, I
could
do with some advice on what are normal sounds when it is turned
over
by hand. I expect, and get the clicks from the impulse coupling at
the right time, but I also get other clonks when it is turned over
slowly. These are at the same point each rotation and I can only
think of the hydraulic tappets that could cause the noise. Do they
normally (or often) do that; does it matter and is it something
that
goes away when the oil pressure builds up? I can't hear it when the
engine is running, but there's other stuff going on then!

Thanks for advice from anyone with more experience than me on
these
engines.

An observation - it sure is a closely cowled installation. A
small
impact lump and cracked paint has appeared on the cowling over the
#4
cylinder rocker cover - top front corner. Also needed to clamp the
plug lead down tight on that cylinder to avoid it rubbing inside
the
cowl, even with the short REM37BY plugs. The engine sounds great
though.

Chris Rayner (trying to recover from standing behind a very
powerful fan at near freezing temperatures).

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks

damiantwinsport@...
 

Hey Guys, does anyone have a source for the orange Polystyrene used for canard and wing cores?

Regards,
Damian Gregory N8427 Q200

-----Original Message-----
From: chris rayner <chris-rayner@...>
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 23:54:18 -0000
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks


Jim, Mike, Bruce, thanks for your replies. I'm keeping close eye on the
temperatures - especially CHT. No problem so far - all seems fine really so
I think I'll keep running it, listening for strange noises. There's one
impulse mag and one fixed, hand swinging with l/h mag on only. I expect that
there will be several hours of taxi testing before flight, so I'll have to
take care and hope for not too much glazing. This will probably be mid year,
by the time that PFA paperwork gets done. Engine installation about
complete - except for the leaks and a few wires to be tidied. Need to hook
up the radio and associated bits (PTT, aerial, h/phones etc) and finish the
canopy locks. Fit the belts; bleed the brakes; finalise the battery
installation - can easily continue to think of lots of little items to
finish.....

The type of pilot I am (more accurately builder as I'm not yet flying) is
like I mentioned in the Q-Talk article. Bought a part-built and continued
from then. Only significant modifications were to add the "6-pack".

PS. Raoul, I know of 3 Q's with 0-235 installed. One is in Cyprus (I
believe) but was built in UK; two others still in UK. One being built and
the other in need of canard repair.

Chris Rayner


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Patillo" <logistics_engineering@...>
To: <Q-LIST@...>
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 4:03 AM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks



Chris,

First congratulations on the startup! Watch to make sure you do not
overheat the cylinders (don't get them over 375-400 degrees on these
little forays). Make sure you calibrate and have accurate oil temp
and CHT gauges. Break the engine in according to the Continental
manual and you won't have any problems. Note: Glazing cylinders on a
new engine is a bummer. Just ask Mark Summers.

It is not recommended but I ran mine several hours on the ground. I
did a complete rebuild myself and did not want surprises. As of 700
hours of continual use, I've not had any problems.

O200's leak oil and they make noise when turned by hand, but just
remember an 0200 is pretty bullet proof. That's why they use them in
Cessna trainer airplanes. You really got to screw up to really screw
up.

If you have mags that are both impulse coupled you will hear two
simetaneous clicks. That is a good thing. You will also feel front to
back end play when pushing on the prop. You also hear the valves
opening and closing but I'm not sure how much you can hear the
hydraulic lifters.

There are four kinds of pilots in this group. Those who bought flying
airplanes, those who bought flying airplanes and decided to tear them
apart and spend the next several years wishing they hadn't and those
who built them from scratch. Which are you?

I was reminded again this weekend of the latter category (visiting
Sam Kittle and his airplane) and what a lot of work it really is. I
spent around 4000 hours on mine and honestly don't think I would have
the stamina to do it again. The rewards are great but the time
required is incredible.

How close to flight are you?

Regards,
Jim Patillo N46JP Q200


--- In Q-LIST@..., "chris rayner" <chris-rayner@b...>
wrote:

Guys, my "hand-start O-200" starts and runs fine - about 30 minutes
so far on my driveway. It has a few oil drips - seem to be from one
mag and the oil tank gaskets. Probably need to re-tighten or re-seat
them. However, as I have never worked with the O-200 before, I could
do with some advice on what are normal sounds when it is turned over
by hand. I expect, and get the clicks from the impulse coupling at
the right time, but I also get other clonks when it is turned over
slowly. These are at the same point each rotation and I can only
think of the hydraulic tappets that could cause the noise. Do they
normally (or often) do that; does it matter and is it something that
goes away when the oil pressure builds up? I can't hear it when the
engine is running, but there's other stuff going on then!

Thanks for advice from anyone with more experience than me on these
engines.

An observation - it sure is a closely cowled installation. A small
impact lump and cracked paint has appeared on the cowling over the #4
cylinder rocker cover - top front corner. Also needed to clamp the
plug lead down tight on that cylinder to avoid it rubbing inside the
cowl, even with the short REM37BY plugs. The engine sounds great
though.

Chris Rayner (trying to recover from standing behind a very
powerful fan at near freezing temperatures).








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http://www.quickiebuilders.org


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http://www.quickiebuilders.org


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Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks

chris rayner <chris-rayner@...>
 

Jim, Mike, Bruce, thanks for your replies. I'm keeping close eye on the temperatures - especially CHT. No problem so far - all seems fine really so I think I'll keep running it, listening for strange noises. There's one impulse mag and one fixed, hand swinging with l/h mag on only. I expect that there will be several hours of taxi testing before flight, so I'll have to take care and hope for not too much glazing. This will probably be mid year, by the time that PFA paperwork gets done. Engine installation about complete - except for the leaks and a few wires to be tidied. Need to hook up the radio and associated bits (PTT, aerial, h/phones etc) and finish the canopy locks. Fit the belts; bleed the brakes; finalise the battery installation - can easily continue to think of lots of little items to finish.....

The type of pilot I am (more accurately builder as I'm not yet flying) is like I mentioned in the Q-Talk article. Bought a part-built and continued from then. Only significant modifications were to add the "6-pack".

PS. Raoul, I know of 3 Q's with 0-235 installed. One is in Cyprus (I believe) but was built in UK; two others still in UK. One being built and the other in need of canard repair.

Chris Rayner

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Patillo" <logistics_engineering@...>
To: <Q-LIST@...>
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 4:03 AM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: O-200 Clicks and Clonks



Chris,

First congratulations on the startup! Watch to make sure you do not
overheat the cylinders (don't get them over 375-400 degrees on these
little forays). Make sure you calibrate and have accurate oil temp
and CHT gauges. Break the engine in according to the Continental
manual and you won't have any problems. Note: Glazing cylinders on a
new engine is a bummer. Just ask Mark Summers.

It is not recommended but I ran mine several hours on the ground. I
did a complete rebuild myself and did not want surprises. As of 700
hours of continual use, I've not had any problems.

O200's leak oil and they make noise when turned by hand, but just
remember an 0200 is pretty bullet proof. That's why they use them in
Cessna trainer airplanes. You really got to screw up to really screw
up.

If you have mags that are both impulse coupled you will hear two
simetaneous clicks. That is a good thing. You will also feel front to
back end play when pushing on the prop. You also hear the valves
opening and closing but I'm not sure how much you can hear the
hydraulic lifters.

There are four kinds of pilots in this group. Those who bought flying
airplanes, those who bought flying airplanes and decided to tear them
apart and spend the next several years wishing they hadn't and those
who built them from scratch. Which are you?

I was reminded again this weekend of the latter category (visiting
Sam Kittle and his airplane) and what a lot of work it really is. I
spent around 4000 hours on mine and honestly don't think I would have
the stamina to do it again. The rewards are great but the time
required is incredible.

How close to flight are you?

Regards,
Jim Patillo N46JP Q200


--- In Q-LIST@..., "chris rayner" <chris-rayner@b...>
wrote:

Guys, my "hand-start O-200" starts and runs fine - about 30 minutes
so far on my driveway. It has a few oil drips - seem to be from one
mag and the oil tank gaskets. Probably need to re-tighten or re-seat
them. However, as I have never worked with the O-200 before, I could
do with some advice on what are normal sounds when it is turned over
by hand. I expect, and get the clicks from the impulse coupling at
the right time, but I also get other clonks when it is turned over
slowly. These are at the same point each rotation and I can only
think of the hydraulic tappets that could cause the noise. Do they
normally (or often) do that; does it matter and is it something that
goes away when the oil pressure builds up? I can't hear it when the
engine is running, but there's other stuff going on then!

Thanks for advice from anyone with more experience than me on these
engines.

An observation - it sure is a closely cowled installation. A small
impact lump and cracked paint has appeared on the cowling over the #4
cylinder rocker cover - top front corner. Also needed to clamp the
plug lead down tight on that cylinder to avoid it rubbing inside the
cowl, even with the short REM37BY plugs. The engine sounds great
though.

Chris Rayner (trying to recover from standing behind a very
powerful fan at near freezing temperatures).







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http://www.quickiebuilders.org


Yahoo! Groups Links








Re: Test

Jim Patillo
 

Damian,

This must be a clue! Just kidding, reading you loud and clear for the
3rd time.

Jim Patillo

--- In Q-LIST@..., damiantwinsport@a... wrote:

I keep geting bounced

Regards,
Damian Gregory N8427 Q200




Test

damiantwinsport@...
 

I keep geting bounced

Regards,
Damian Gregory N8427 Q200