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Put in the long range aux tanks and fly it across the pond, Richard. Good luck with your final steps.
Cheers, Jay
From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Thomson
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 11:39 AM To: main@Q-List.groups.io Subject: Re: [Q-List] New FOD Top Hit
Great song Jay, although I may not have to sing that much longer :-) Rich T. On 20/09/2021 17:21, Jay Scheevel wrote:
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Paul Fisher
Great song. The only thing worse than being stuck in builder's prison is having a flying airplane and STILL not making it to the FOD. I really missed you guys this year. Usually my cheeks hurt for days from laughing so much! Hopefully next year! Paul Fisher Q-200 N17PF
On Mon, Sep 20, 2021, 09:21 Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote:
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Re: Home
Good flight Kevin. KC is sometimes is a mess. Weather starts in and they send folks to the four corners of Earth!
From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Kevin Boddicker <trumanst@...>
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2021 6:38 PM To: main@q-list.groups.io <main@q-list.groups.io> Subject: Re: [Q-List] Home KDEH Decorah Iowa.
625 statute miles from Enid via the route I took.
A bit east to stay out of Kansas City airspace.
On Sep 19, 2021, at 6:06 PM, ryan goodman via groups.io <elboy0712@...> wrote:
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Re: Vance Bash!
Good deal, Charlie. Gotta get some nose art for DragonVair. The Zenith guys at Arlington had International "No Naders" on the cowling.
Frankenbird Vern
From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Jay Scheevel <jay@...>
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 11:53 AM To: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> Subject: Re: [Q-List] Vance Bash! Glad you got home safely, Charlie. Good to see you again, as always. Tell Robert we missed him.
Cheers, Jay
From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of One Sky Dog via groups.io
Landed safely in Benson!
Spent the night in Demming, NM because of pop up SIGMET cu-nimbus lightning turbulence the usual dry line stuff. That was after bumping along for hours through Texas and New Mexico.
Dave was amazed by the airplanes and the group and I second the FOD brings amazing things and people together.
I will winter over exploring the Tri-Pacer limits and mine exploring slow flight and learning dirt flying.
The final sorting of the squawk list and test flying the Dragonvair is planned.
Thanks everyone!
Charlie One Sky Dog
My you tube channel
On Monday, September 20, 2021, 3:26 AM, One Sky Dog via groups.io <Oneskydog@...> wrote:
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Charlie..I know your not changing your Tri Pacer engine but overheard some conversation at FOD on the Lycoming O-320 updates that triggered a memory and I said I would look into.
The info I remembered about the Titan 340 is in the March and June issues of Kitplanes magazine. There are differences in the 340 of course..and those clearly described in the article series by Marc Cook who owns a GlaStar.
Also, ironically
The title on the March issue about overhauling a O-360..related to this is "get friendly with the UPS driver (or Vern) that knows his way to Tulsa" This same shop is where I am taking both my Corvair Standard Nitrided Cranks to mag check. I figure they might
know something about steel crankshaft inspections.
So my path for engine and my particular history for the projects. I will have two reliable 2850cc aircraft engines with probably less than $7000 TOTAL cost in each powerplant ($14,000 estimated for two engines). That includes the $1000 5th bearing mod.
I will tap threads with my tooling for the safety shaft provided mag check in Tulsa verifys good to go (not difficult to do). One crankshaft is from a 140 hp.. the other is a 180 hp that I know personally the history of.
The 140 crank is unknown except the car was driven about 60,000 when it dropped an intake valve seat and the car then sat unloved in a Washington State back yard under blue tarps for about 20 years. I found it on Craigslist Seattle in 2007. The car was an
all yellow 1965 Monza 2dr 4 speed and had an all black interior. I installed a good running $250 110hp smog engine and sold the car. The 140 would run but of course very weak and backfiring in the carbs. I paid $1200 for the car and as I say..sold it and then
the 140hp parts later for quite a bit more than that. I think total profit was around $1200 or so. It took me 3 days to swap the engine..about 6 hours a day work (remove and replace). I cleaned the car and fuel tank and all brake hydraulics were replaced.
About 2 weeks time.
I kept all the aviation related items required, but bought one good 110hp case. I also have good 95hp 1964 heads for one and 110hp 1965 heads for the other engine. Keep in mind I also owned and drove a 1965 Yenko Stinger, and my daily driver then was a 1965
Monza (110hp Automatic) that I had since I was 17 years old. I learned to drive in Seattle when I was 14 years old in a 1963 "three on the tree" Corvair "95" Van we had in my Dad's janitorial business.
The 180hp was originally from my uncles car. He was a Navy Pilot in WW2 and owned a Taylorcraft that I did a recover with him when I was in 5th and 6th grade (1965, 1966). I bought the engine from my Aunt for $100 when Dale passed away from COPD in the early
1990's. The engine had sat pickled under tarps in the corner of the shop since 1966. The Corsa car he owned was totalled by a garage fire. He pulled and saved the engine thinking he might build for it sometime. The car had less than 10,000 miles when totalled
out! I sold the rare Turbo case, heads, and related other items to other Corsa club memebers for quite a bit more than $100. They were MORE than happy to be able to correctly restore the rare car they had, and I was pleased to be able to assist too.
I write these facts to inform others that IF the Corvair is one option they might consider, with a littel hunting it is still fairly easy to buy items that will in fact return a profit for your core engine. It's NOT rare to make these kinds of deals, especially
since we do not need a running engine or car. Pretty easy to get a "challenge" car like the 140 I bought and end up with money in your pocket to pay for some of the conversion parts.
Not everyone is a gearhead or even interested in doing this (building the engine) but even with a limited background these particilar powerplants are remarkably easy to work on and the parts are not at all a challenge to find, plus there is a ton of reliable
support available totally for free.
Charlie can relate his engine find. In his case the lady of the house had a serious problem with $20,000 for a greasy ol "airplane engine" that might have taken more than that to repair. For sure it would have cost a serious pile of change to overhaul later.
Vern
From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of One Sky Dog via groups.io <Oneskydog@...>
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 11:50 AM To: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> Subject: Re: [Q-List] Vance Bash! Landed safely in Benson!
Spent the night in Demming, NM because of pop up SIGMET cu-nimbus lightning turbulence the usual dry line stuff. That was after bumping along for hours through Texas and New Mexico.
Dave was amazed by the airplanes and the group and I second the FOD brings amazing things and people together.
I will winter over exploring the Tri-Pacer limits and mine exploring slow flight and learning dirt flying.
The final sorting of the squawk list and test flying the Dragonvair is planned.
Thanks everyone!
Charlie One Sky Dog
My you tube channel
On Monday, September 20, 2021, 3:26 AM, One Sky Dog via groups.io <Oneskydog@...> wrote:
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Great song Jay, although I may not have to sing that much longer :-) Rich T. On 20/09/2021 17:21, Jay Scheevel
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I second Corbin on the next year
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Mike N. 200QK
On Sep 20, 2021, at 9:48 AM, Anthony P <solarant@...> wrote:
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I like it! Lord knows not a one builder on this site hasn't had them blues!
Good news..today I chatted with the contractors to complete my hangar.. Frankenbird is finally going to have a REAL house!!
I'll get back to Oklahoma on the holiday shutdown so I will be moving the entire kit from my storage unit back into the closed hangar on my property. After then going to surprise my family in Krasnodar...to spend New Year with them (in Orthodox country's
like Russia, New Year is the same as our Christmas..so it is a major holiday). I'm pretty jazzed because I miss my mother-in-law and our funny stories. She is like my own mom was..love her to no end! Gotta get my Visa status updated as soon as I can.
My Brother-in-law and his family are there too. Going to be a very good holiday. I will be sure to wear my Q hat and Shirt for the photos!
Vern
From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Jay Scheevel <jay@...>
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 11:21 AM To: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> Subject: [Q-List] New FOD Top Hit For those of you who could not understand our singing or could not attend this year, here’s a copy of the new FOD theme song, as premiered at the group BBQ dinner! Thanks to Bruce for the fine musicianship and to Joanne for putting up with us.
Cheers, Jay
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Glad you got home safely, Charlie. Good to see you again, as always. Tell Robert we missed him.
Cheers, Jay
From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of One Sky Dog via groups.io
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 10:50 AM To: main@Q-List.groups.io Subject: Re: [Q-List] Vance Bash!
Landed safely in Benson!
Spent the night in Demming, NM because of pop up SIGMET cu-nimbus lightning turbulence the usual dry line stuff. That was after bumping along for hours through Texas and New Mexico.
Dave was amazed by the airplanes and the group and I second the FOD brings amazing things and people together.
I will winter over exploring the Tri-Pacer limits and mine exploring slow flight and learning dirt flying.
The final sorting of the squawk list and test flying the Dragonvair is planned.
Thanks everyone!
Charlie One Sky Dog My you tube channel
On Monday, September 20, 2021, 3:26 AM, One Sky Dog via groups.io <Oneskydog@...> wrote:
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Landed safely in Benson!
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
Spent the night in Demming, NM because of pop up SIGMET cu-nimbus lightning turbulence the usual dry line stuff. That was after bumping along for hours through Texas and New Mexico. Dave was amazed by the airplanes and the group and I second the FOD brings amazing things and people together. I will winter over exploring the Tri-Pacer limits and mine exploring slow flight and learning dirt flying. The final sorting of the squawk list and test flying the Dragonvair is planned. Thanks everyone! Charlie One Sky Dog
On Monday, September 20, 2021, 3:26 AM, One Sky Dog via groups.io <Oneskydog@...> wrote:
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Anthony P
Somebody tell Dave that he's got a bent pushrod tube.
He should look into that before the next flight. :)
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Jay.. probably didn't look but all of the birds here in Oklahoma (and Kansas) have Arnold Schartznegger legs. They spend most of their lives walking..too windy to fly unless it's one way trip (whatever downwind is that day). I think that is why there are
more birds in Nebraska in Summer and more of them in Texas in the Winter. They migrate but not by choice. Grins.
Happy to learn you didn't have to fit the rotors over the hills too much! I've seen some rather wicked events on the west range of the Sangre de Cristo. Mountain waves to make records too if you can survive your kidneys getting beat up long enough to reach
them!
Maybe I'll see some of you at Arlington EAA if I am still at the job in July. Last time I was there not a single tandem wing arrived. Only one or two RV's.. (haha).
Vern
From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Jay Scheevel <jay@...>
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2021 5:13 PM To: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> Subject: [Q-List] Back home and flight report Made it back home about 2PM my time (3PM if you are living on Tulsa time 😊). Thanks to the Crains for surpassing their own hospitality records year after year!
Now for a brief flight report:
Abstract: Slogged through massive head winds! Made it home.
Details: Thought life was good when I took off from Enid with a small tailwind and smooth air. That changed before I even exited Vance MOA’s. First I lost 5 mph, not bad…oh now, 10 mph, then 25 mph. Can this get worse? How about 30 mph. Tried different altitudes, even down low, same deal, but bumpier.
Better land at Liberal KS and put on some more fuel. Could not download my data from the flight computer there because parked on the ramp, the airspeed was reading close to 30 mph, so the EFIS thought I was still flying! Put my finger over the pitot for 20 seconds and solved the problem.
OK, more fuel and off I go to my original fuel stop at Triniidad. Same headwinds, but worse. Wind direction has come around to almost on my nose now…I am seeing 105-110 mph (TAS is showing 155-160). My mind drifts back to my Cherokee 140 days, but hey now the OAT has increased from 23 to 28 and now the sun is on my shoulder…. So I land in Trinidad and put some more fuel in it and launch from there.
I am looking at wind forecasts over the peaks of the Sangre de Cristo range and La Vita pass. Showing 25 knots from the SW, so that is doable and I don’t see any lenticulars. So I start my cruise climb to try to get 12,500 before I try anything over the range. Good news is I have plenty of time to climb, since I am only seeing high 40’s mph over the ground: Hope no one was watching on Flightaware, they will think I am driving the courtesy car from WDG!
Still not enough altitude for my comfort, so I turn back away from the mountains to continue climbing, Same airspeed ~105, but now my groundspeed is high 160’s (moving away from home)!
Find a nice saddle to cross into the San Luis valley and now I only have 20 mph headwind alleluia. Call FS and extend my flight plan, good to go.
Had the Kevin Boddicker style 90 degree crosswind at home, but that seemed like a welcome relief. Plane is sleeping in its comfy hangar now.
Glad everyone else got home in style. Will wait to hear from Charlie. I am sure he will have a good story or two.
Cheers, Jay
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Jerry Marstall
Awesome!! Love it. Jerry
On Mon, Sep 20, 2021, 12:21 PM Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote:
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Rick Hole
Where's the video? I wanna see it! Got a big TV an'a thousand watts 'a sound. Sonia (1953-2020) & Rick
On Mon, Sep 20, 2021, 10:21 AM Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote:
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Jon Finley
I understood Jay and thought the world premier was oozing with talent!!
Well done!! Jon Finley Somewhere in the Southwest flying an RV-4
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For those of you who could not understand our singing or could not attend this year, here’s a copy of the new FOD theme song, as premiered at the group BBQ dinner! Thanks to Bruce for the fine musicianship and to Joanne for putting up with us.
Cheers, Jay
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Corbin <c_geiser@...>
Here is my obligatory, "next year" comment. LIfe and work have been crazy the last 3-4 months but I think things are slowing down. Catching up on this thread and glad quite a few people made it this year. I hope to be back flying in October! Corbin
On September 18, 2021 at 4:39 PM, Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...> wrote:
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Corbin N121CG
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Jon Finley
Thanks for these photos Bruce. One thing stands out - and I admit that I may be a bit biased - it kind of looks like the best looking men went on the run to Pawhusta, OK to work!! :-)
Jon Finley Somewhere in the Southwest flying an RV-4
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Good to see you again, Jimmy. Even if on the Dick Tracy watch/phone! Will catch you in person next time, hopefully.
Cheers, Jay
From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of JMasal via groups.io
Thanks all y'all For photos and safe arrival home reports.It was another SAFE event (that me and my second-in -command missed to avert any risk to ol Covid 19,17,64r and etc. Glad to speak to you reprobates by video thanks to HoneyLamb. Return WX westbound seemed uneasy... wonder about the groundspeed on that Tri-Pacer??? Mebbe they'll be home next week??
The King Quicker
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Thanks again Sam (Stacy) for driving me all over the place in your muscle car! Wondered where I had left that cap, but Honey Lamb gave me a replacement before I left. See you can find Bob Farnam and give him the cap. We talked about him enough that it was like he was there. See you next time in your Q.
Cheers, Jay
From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sam Kittle
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2021 4:34 PM To: main@q-list.groups.io; Jay Scheevel <jay@...> Subject: Re: [Q-List] Back home and flight report
Hi Jay,
I believe you left your FOD cap in my back seat. Would you like for me to drop it in the mail or hold it until you come to California?
Sam
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