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Re: "Field Of Dreams" 2021!!!!!

Frankenbird Vern
 

 The scrap workers outside the office would have loved you! All those cardboard boxes, nylon strapping, and styrofoam packing inserts.

 In truth much of this is stuff recycleable. The expanded styrofoam does have scrap value. I built my garage solo in Carson New Mexico from Rastra..which is nothing more than a formed block made from Portland slurry mixed with beaded styrofoam pellets and allowed to green set in a casting tool.  

 Makes an excellent building too! The garage/shop temps stayed above freezing overnite even without added heating to well below zero. I installed pex radiant tubing in the slab which collected heat via solar collector in the day..but because the home was 100% off grid energy demand was designed to be low. Many homes there used papercrete in construction which is cardboard or other paper slurried in and blown on similar to stucco.  

 Here's the link to the fellow that bought my place. He served in Afganistan. 

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 It's a good thing Pilots are not evil people..we'd be giving lots of people grief.

Vern 


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Sounds like a good idea!
You should give it a try, just for an experiment.
Crowd frenzy/behavior has been studied a lot, and exploited often at auctions.

About 10 years ago, when Harbor Freight prices were amazingly low, I had an idea to drop ship their heavy steel items right to US scrap yards, and make a profit.  I weighted H-frame presses, engine hoists, and big socket sets.  It would have worked and I never would have placed a finger on any of it.
Great idea right :) ;).


Re: Brief flight report

Bruce Crain
 

178 statute mph cruise!  You’re fast!  And yep they are comfortable!  Will be looking for you here in Enid!
Bruce


On Sep 5, 2021, at 12:18 PM, Mike via groups.io <n7000t@...> wrote:


Bruce a Jay,
Good news and good pictures from you both!
I had a little shake down flight from KBVU to KFLY with a stop at KFMN   I took the southern route through Lavita pass.  2 hrs 20 minutes to the first stop. ( true 155 knots) ground speed 160 ish. Second leg was 1:45 to KFLY.  Return trip was almost the same speeds because of not much winds aloft. Jays density altitude table is very close. My take off role with a slight up hill grade with a 7 knot head wind was 2500.  Airport elevation is 6800 and density altitude at takeoff was 8700. I climbed around 5 to 600 feet a minute.   Once I shoe horn myself in the airplane is very comfortable to sit in. Was a good trip and looking forward to Enid!
Flights are on FlightAware if you want to check it out 
Mike. N.    N200QK 


On Sep 4, 2021, at 3:52 PM, Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...> wrote:

That’s awesome Jay!  Must have been just hanging on the prop to form along side the Stearman!
Yep!  Looking forward to Field Of Dreams!
The weather is looking good so bring it on!!
Bruce


On Sep 4, 2021, at 4:46 PM, Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote:



Went up this morning for an early fall flight. The weather was beautiful and air was smooth. It happened that my good friend, Randy Miller was hopping a ride in his Stearman for another friend of my family, who at 68 took her first flight of any kind.  I really just had to come up along side to say “hi”.  The smoke is a nice way to track yourself into formation. Hope to see you all in Enid!

 

Cheers,

Jay Scheevel. Tri-Q2 N8WQ, 177 hours.

 

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Re: Brief flight report

 

Bruce a Jay,
Good news and good pictures from you both!
I had a little shake down flight from KBVU to KFLY with a stop at KFMN   I took the southern route through Lavita pass.  2 hrs 20 minutes to the first stop. ( true 155 knots) ground speed 160 ish. Second leg was 1:45 to KFLY.  Return trip was almost the same speeds because of not much winds aloft. Jays density altitude table is very close. My take off role with a slight up hill grade with a 7 knot head wind was 2500.  Airport elevation is 6800 and density altitude at takeoff was 8700. I climbed around 5 to 600 feet a minute.   Once I shoe horn myself in the airplane is very comfortable to sit in. Was a good trip and looking forward to Enid!
Flights are on FlightAware if you want to check it out 
Mike. N.    N200QK 


On Sep 4, 2021, at 3:52 PM, Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...> wrote:

That’s awesome Jay!  Must have been just hanging on the prop to form along side the Stearman!
Yep!  Looking forward to Field Of Dreams!
The weather is looking good so bring it on!!
Bruce


On Sep 4, 2021, at 4:46 PM, Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote:



Went up this morning for an early fall flight. The weather was beautiful and air was smooth. It happened that my good friend, Randy Miller was hopping a ride in his Stearman for another friend of my family, who at 68 took her first flight of any kind.  I really just had to come up along side to say “hi”.  The smoke is a nice way to track yourself into formation. Hope to see you all in Enid!

 

Cheers,

Jay Scheevel. Tri-Q2 N8WQ, 177 hours.

 

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Re: "Field Of Dreams" 2021!!!!!

Anthony P
 

Sounds like a good idea!
You should give it a try, just for an experiment.
Crowd frenzy/behavior has been studied a lot, and exploited often at auctions.

About 10 years ago, when Harbor Freight prices were amazingly low, I had an idea to drop ship their heavy steel items right to US scrap yards, and make a profit.  I weighted H-frame presses, engine hoists, and big socket sets.  It would have worked and I never would have placed a finger on any of it.
Great idea right :) ;).


Re: "Field Of Dreams" 2021!!!!!

Frankenbird Vern
 

 As much as I wanted to see your Dragonfly I respect that your not pushing beyond limits to make the trip. I am going to attend on Friday morning, but my Wife and I have irons in the fire she needs assist on so I will return on Friday afternoon.

 I have a suppliment idea to my fantastic Social Security and Boeing pension I'd like to run past you guys. (not seriously but it DID cross my mind yesterday)  

  We go to a monthly auction first Saturday of each month East of Tulsa where there is usually a lot of construction material available. Sometimes new..sometimes just a pile of hacks. It's an auction. Been going to them most of my life.  

 To finish out my 40X25 hangar & shop I need OSB sheets. So the prices here in Oklahoma lately have been about $16 and sometimes as low as $12..for example at Lowes. 

 Auctioneer gets the crowd up to $12 in a hurry for a stack of 13 sheets..and they are decent and usable but NOT store perfect either.  Surprised me but then the real shocker arrived.

..final sale was at $17.50 per sheet!!  The guy was genuinely smiling as if he just hit the Powerball lotto, or maybe he "just be hatin" on them Benjamins in his bank account?? 

 Same thing on several other items.  I'm convinced it is something in the water they are drinking over there in Tulsa and points East of the city. 

 Maybe next month I'll just buy a dozen pallets of OSB, beat them up a bit and profit $5.50 a sheet just by taking them to the auction. Sounds like a good plan but as we all know..best plans of mice and men..

 It's a strange world being a retired aerospace geezer.  See you in a couple of weeks.  

Vern 


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I had hoped to have the 3rd reconstruction of my 950 + hrs Dragonfly done in time, but that is not happening right now. I did taxi it a short bit.

I will be making my way to Az next week to get ready for the fly-in.

One Sky Dog



On Saturday, September 4, 2021, 6:49 PM, Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...> wrote:

Field Of Dreams is a little less than 2 weeks out!!  Can't wait to see all of you here in Enid "The Center of The Universe"!!  Here come the URL again if  you need it!
Bruce Crain
 
<fieldofdreamsreunion.weebly.com>
 
 


Re: Flight Report N96BJ

Frankenbird Vern
 

 Maybe send some rain our way, Bruce. My fish in the pond are threatening to not pay rent....again.
😏

Vern..brown grass in Mannford.
  


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Subject: Re: [Q-List] Flight Report N96BJ
 
Doh!  I forgot to mention the oil temp is once again back to normal!
Bruce


On Sep 4, 2021, at 7:42 PM, Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...> wrote:


Say Jay I flew yesterday morning also!  I have been observing my oil temps increasing on my Continental 0200 over a long period of time.  When I first put an Electronic Ignition on with a mag remaining the rpms were lower with respect to the mag when doing a preflight check.  I have been noticing that the mag check lately was increasing the rpms when checked.  Over time the points wear down and increase the timing on a mag.  (there's that moving parts thing with magnetos).
 
So when I pulled the engine I checked the oil screen and found only a very minimal amount of what looked like paper chewed up into small particles.  No metal showing.  I had cleaned it out only a short number of hours ago and knew that it most likely wasn't the culprit.  I then checked the mag timing an it was showing about 27 btdc.  So I put the electronic mag checker on it and retimed it to 24 btdc.
 
After remounting the engine I ran it up an had quite a mag drop (200+) with a slight vibration even at 1700 rpm.  I had just cleaned the plugs so I figured it was just oil in the bottom of a cylinder or a speck in the electrode of the spark plugs or a bit of anti seize on an electrode. 
 
After flying the TriQ 200 I checked the mag and it was smooth and only slowed rpms 100 to 150.  That is fairly normal with electronic ignition and mag combination.
 
Oh, the flight was a little choppy but there was a cloud east of WDG and I flew under it.  It was nice and cool so I flew around a while with flight following watching me.  Flight following alerted me that a Huey helicopter was on my flight path and was inbound for WDG.  When I "tally hoed" I followed the Huey inbound for a while and then peeled off for some more cool air.  A short time later I headed back to WDG and had a great landing!  All was wonderful!  It's a sweet little bird that is way fun to fly!
Get em done!  You'll be glad you did!
 
Bruce Crain
 





Re: "Field Of Dreams" 2021!!!!!

One Sky Dog
 

I had hoped to have the 3rd reconstruction of my 950 + hrs Dragonfly done in time, but that is not happening right now. I did taxi it a short bit.

I will be making my way to Az next week to get ready for the fly-in.

One Sky Dog



On Saturday, September 4, 2021, 6:49 PM, Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...> wrote:

Field Of Dreams is a little less than 2 weeks out!!  Can't wait to see all of you here in Enid "The Center of The Universe"!!  Here come the URL again if  you need it!
Bruce Crain
 
<fieldofdreamsreunion.weebly.com>
 
 


Re: Flight Report N96BJ

Bruce Crain
 

Doh!  I forgot to mention the oil temp is once again back to normal!
Bruce


On Sep 4, 2021, at 7:42 PM, Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...> wrote:


Say Jay I flew yesterday morning also!  I have been observing my oil temps increasing on my Continental 0200 over a long period of time.  When I first put an Electronic Ignition on with a mag remaining the rpms were lower with respect to the mag when doing a preflight check.  I have been noticing that the mag check lately was increasing the rpms when checked.  Over time the points wear down and increase the timing on a mag.  (there's that moving parts thing with magnetos).
 
So when I pulled the engine I checked the oil screen and found only a very minimal amount of what looked like paper chewed up into small particles.  No metal showing.  I had cleaned it out only a short number of hours ago and knew that it most likely wasn't the culprit.  I then checked the mag timing an it was showing about 27 btdc.  So I put the electronic mag checker on it and retimed it to 24 btdc.
 
After remounting the engine I ran it up an had quite a mag drop (200+) with a slight vibration even at 1700 rpm.  I had just cleaned the plugs so I figured it was just oil in the bottom of a cylinder or a speck in the electrode of the spark plugs or a bit of anti seize on an electrode. 
 
After flying the TriQ 200 I checked the mag and it was smooth and only slowed rpms 100 to 150.  That is fairly normal with electronic ignition and mag combination.
 
Oh, the flight was a little choppy but there was a cloud east of WDG and I flew under it.  It was nice and cool so I flew around a while with flight following watching me.  Flight following alerted me that a Huey helicopter was on my flight path and was inbound for WDG.  When I "tally hoed" I followed the Huey inbound for a while and then peeled off for some more cool air.  A short time later I headed back to WDG and had a great landing!  All was wonderful!  It's a sweet little bird that is way fun to fly!
Get em done!  You'll be glad you did!
 
Bruce Crain
 





"Field Of Dreams" 2021!!!!!

Bruce Crain
 

Field Of Dreams is a little less than 2 weeks out!!  Can't wait to see all of you here in Enid "The Center of The Universe"!!  Here come the URL again if  you need it!
Bruce Crain
 
<fieldofdreamsreunion.weebly.com>
 
 



Flight Report N96BJ

Bruce Crain
 

Say Jay I flew yesterday morning also!  I have been observing my oil temps increasing on my Continental 0200 over a long period of time.  When I first put an Electronic Ignition on with a mag remaining the rpms were lower with respect to the mag when doing a preflight check.  I have been noticing that the mag check lately was increasing the rpms when checked.  Over time the points wear down and increase the timing on a mag.  (there's that moving parts thing with magnetos).
 
So when I pulled the engine I checked the oil screen and found only a very minimal amount of what looked like paper chewed up into small particles.  No metal showing.  I had cleaned it out only a short number of hours ago and knew that it most likely wasn't the culprit.  I then checked the mag timing an it was showing about 27 btdc.  So I put the electronic mag checker on it and retimed it to 24 btdc.
 
After remounting the engine I ran it up an had quite a mag drop (200+) with a slight vibration even at 1700 rpm.  I had just cleaned the plugs so I figured it was just oil in the bottom of a cylinder or a speck in the electrode of the spark plugs or a bit of anti seize on an electrode. 
 
After flying the TriQ 200 I checked the mag and it was smooth and only slowed rpms 100 to 150.  That is fairly normal with electronic ignition and mag combination.
 
Oh, the flight was a little choppy but there was a cloud east of WDG and I flew under it.  It was nice and cool so I flew around a while with flight following watching me.  Flight following alerted me that a Huey helicopter was on my flight path and was inbound for WDG.  When I "tally hoed" I followed the Huey inbound for a while and then peeled off for some more cool air.  A short time later I headed back to WDG and had a great landing!  All was wonderful!  It's a sweet little bird that is way fun to fly!
Get em done!  You'll be glad you did!
 
Bruce Crain
 



Re: Brief flight report

Bruce Crain
 

That’s awesome Jay!  Must have been just hanging on the prop to form along side the Stearman!
Yep!  Looking forward to Field Of Dreams!
The weather is looking good so bring it on!!
Bruce


On Sep 4, 2021, at 4:46 PM, Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote:



Went up this morning for an early fall flight. The weather was beautiful and air was smooth. It happened that my good friend, Randy Miller was hopping a ride in his Stearman for another friend of my family, who at 68 took her first flight of any kind.  I really just had to come up along side to say “hi”.  The smoke is a nice way to track yourself into formation. Hope to see you all in Enid!

 

Cheers,

Jay Scheevel. Tri-Q2 N8WQ, 177 hours.

 

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Brief flight report

Jay Scheevel
 

Went up this morning for an early fall flight. The weather was beautiful and air was smooth. It happened that my good friend, Randy Miller was hopping a ride in his Stearman for another friend of my family, who at 68 took her first flight of any kind.  I really just had to come up along side to say “hi”.  The smoke is a nice way to track yourself into formation. Hope to see you all in Enid!

 

Cheers,

Jay Scheevel. Tri-Q2 N8WQ, 177 hours.

 


Re: update

Chris Walterson
 

Bill------------ E mail me off the list and I'll answer any questions.  Chris


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Re: update

Bill Higdon
 

Chris,
Can I talk to you about your Dragonfly install?
Bill Higdon


Re: update

Chris Walterson
 

Jon-----------  Still using the Ea81. 550 hrs so far. Looking forward to the  Q.

 The only thing I like better than speed , is more speed and the Q will give me that.----------  Chris


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Re: update

Chris Walterson
 

Graham  I have the mercury filled balancer on the Dragonfly EA 81  and like it.  I tried to find one for the Q2, but couldn't find the appropriate size.  They are mostly  available for the smaller Rotax.

 The hangar next to me is Recon Airs and they rebuild Otters and install 1,000 hp Garrets.  They had a dynamic prop balancer that needed to be recertified, and it was easier to buy new ,so they gave me there old one.   Good to have friends.  I did balance the three blade Warp drive  before installation and it seems smooth without any balancing so far. Time will tell.

 Have to give a shout out to Reg Clarke as he led the way on the Subaru turbo direct drive conversion.

 I tuned the prop to 14 degrees today and the rpm seems in the proper range.  Take care--------------  Chris


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Re: update

Jon Finley
 

Looking very good Chris!!  Too bad you couldn't find the time to work on three airplanes! :-)

Jon Finley
Somewhere in the Southwest flying an RV-4


Re: update

gbrighton@...
 

Chris .. Think u are well on the way to 'Legend Status' .. ! and thanks for the update .. u hadn't posted for a while and that made me think you were .. umm.. busy !
As an aside ... i have a TriQ airframe in my hanger ... its original as built .. except for the Canopy . The original Canopy apparently departed the aircraft on route between TX and CA while loaded sideways on Car Trailer .!!

Probably not the List to go on about, .. but i luv ur Direct Drive etc set up .. Iv been recently looking at aftermarket Harmonic Balancer options .. appears so far there are 2 main ones .. the Oil filled one and the Mercury Filled one ... could be something to have in mind later if need be ?!
Re, Cooling .. i found a BIG difference in Cooling (Water Temp) with Cowling On vs Cowling OFF ... just saw heat dissipation very Great with No cowling and having Prop Blast vs buttoned up !

Looking fwd to next 'Update' ...

Graham =========== In Australia ; )

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No, not finished yet.

Made it out the the airport a few weeks ago and did the assembly. I
found out that if the airplane is sideways on the trailer and you go
faster than 30 mph, the canopy will open. No damage. I also have a lock
on the canopy, but slipped my mind.

In the process of tuning. I have the SDS fuel injected system along
with a 3 blade carbon fiber Warp drive prop.

You need to adjust the prop and then tune the fuel and adjust the prop
and tune the fuel until I can see 3,000 static with no turbo boost. With
boost and the prop unloaded I should see 4,000 rpm.

My cooling system is working very well. May be able to cut down the
opening get less drag.

Because I have the tail wheel control from the Dragonfly , but the
larger Q2 tail wheel, I found it very sensitive taxiing.

I modified my control rod and use a few compression spring to help
dampen the the feed back.

I solved my Forward CG problem by boring a 5/8 hole in the vertical
stab. I have the Dragonfly stab and rudder so there is a spar, that I
bored down the center of.

I took a fourty inch 3/4 inch copper plumbing pipe and filled it with
melted down used lead weights from a tire shop. Ended up weighing ten
lbs and fit into the hole bored with some persuasion. Filled and
glassed the hole and now I have 14 lbs on the tail.

I hope to have the final in the next three weeks and then some taxiing.
In Canada , after the final we need to send in for out Special C of A,
and once we receive this we are okay to fly. It does take up to 8 weeks
to receive this so may not be until next spring that I can legally fly.

Also have another of Gary Legares creations that I have finally
finished after 18 years. We are surrounded by lakes , so it will be
very usefull, however I still really like the speed and the fuel burn of
the Qs. Hope to have them both inspected this fall.

Take care------------------ Chris in Canada



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Rough River 2021 Update 9-1-21

Ryszard Zadow
 

After this weekend the Lodge restaurant will be TAKE OUT ONLY! 

We're working on a food truck to be at the airport. 

ALERT: Wi-Fi unavailable until further notice in lodge rooms. Wi-Fi is currently available in the lodge and cottages.

ALERT: Masks are required to be worn by all employees and visitors when indoors in public spaces. Masks may be removed when seated and actively consuming food or beverage, and masks are not required in private areas such as lodge rooms and cottages. 



Rough River 2021, September 24, 25, 26. 


The lodge is full. When I checked the other day there were no rooms available. Across the road though is a little place called the St. Claire Motor Lodge. I spoke with them this morning and they have a few rooms left however, I was informed there is a bass fishing tournament that same weekend! 

St. Claire only has 18 rooms total and maybe 10 left as I type this hurry! 


Website Update: The website has this years dates on it correctly, the next few years are a little off but as always, it's the last full weekend in September. It also still has Nicks' name and info all over it. Feel free to contact Nick if you'd like but I'll still answer questions :) We are actively recruiting someone to help manage the Rough River Website. 

As usual there is no set schedule other than hangin out on the ramp talking about airplanes, flying rides and the meeting in the tent Saturday evening. If anyone has a very interesting topic they'd like to present then please let me know. 

The "Get You Home" box. Rutan Aircraft Flying Experience is sponsoring a foot locker of spares that might be just what someone needs to get them home. The park has agreed to give us a space to store this box so spares are available year round. So far we have: 

Nose wheel tire and wheel. 
Lamb tire, tube and wheel 
5 inch tire, tube and wheel. 
A couple spare spark plugs. REM-40E and REM-38

We'll also come up with some basic tools. Anyone have other ideas or parts they'd like to contribute please let us know. 
 
Ryszard




On Monday, August 23, 2021, 01:41:30 PM CDT, Ryszard Zadow <ryszardzadow@...> wrote:


We're a month out from the best canard fly-in there is! 

Rough River 2021, September 24, 25, 26. 


The lodge is full. When I checked the other day there were no rooms available. Across the road though is a little place called the St. Claire Motor Lodge. I spoke with them this morning and they have a few rooms left however, I was informed there is a bass fishing tournament that same weekend! 

St. Claire only has 18 rooms total and maybe 10 left as I type this hurry! 


Website Update: The website has this years dates on it correctly, the next few years are a little off but as always, it's the last full weekend in September. It also still has Nicks' name and info all over it. Feel free to contact Nick if you'd like but I'll still answer questions :) We are actively recruiting someone to help manage the Rough River Website. 

As usual there is no set schedule other than hangin out on the ramp talking about airplanes, flying rides and the meeting in the tent Saturday evening. If anyone has a very interesting topic they'd like to present then please let me know. 

The "Get You Home" box. Rutan Aircraft Flying Experience is sponsoring a foot locker of spares that might be just what someone needs to get them home. The park has agreed to give us a space to store this box so spares are available year round. So far we have: 

Nose wheel tire and wheel. 
Lamb tire, tube and wheel 
5 inch tire, tube and wheel. 
A couple spare spark plugs. REM-40E and REM-38

We'll also come up with some basic tools. Anyone have other ideas or parts they'd like to contribute please let us know. 
 
Ryszard


Re: update

Anthony P
 

Looks really nice!  AND Fast!

Hope you don't have to wait for next spring.  That seems painful.