Nice flight report Jay,  how did it thank you ? Dropping oil on your clean shoes or running over your toe? 😉

Rich T.

Finally got up for the first time in almost 3 weeks today. Normally, I fly in the morning, but today was afternoon to let some low clouds burn of. The combination of the remaining haze and the low early afternoon sun was worth the price of admission (5 gallons in 0.9 hours).  Had a good time up surveying my house and the national park cliffs behind it and flying down the Colorado river, as well as north of town near the cliffs on that side of the valley. There was virtually no wind and definitely no turbulence, so it was a great day to be up and I tried to polish some of my stick and rudder skills, which of course are slightly different in the Tri-Q. Can’t really put my finger on the reason why, but it is probably related to the ailerons being planted dead center in the airframe. Anyway, it is starting to feel like my airplane now.  I also did some practice approaches down to a few feet off the runway, during a few circuits, then executed a fairly decent landing. I am not really comfortable with touch and goes yet on the short runway, but lowering it down to almost touching and holding it off then pushing the throttle and going around is good practice. So bottom line, it was a very nice day to be airborne and my Q thanked me for flying it as I put it away.

 

Cheers,

Jay Scheevel, Tri-Q2 N8WQ, 125 hours.

Finally got up for the first time in almost 3 weeks today. Normally, I fly in the morning, but today was afternoon to let some low clouds burn of. The combination of the remaining haze and the low early afternoon sun was worth the price of admission (5 gallons in 0.9 hours).  Had a good time up surveying my house and the national park cliffs behind it and flying down the Colorado river, as well as north of town near the cliffs on that side of the valley. There was virtually no wind and definitely no turbulence, so it was a great day to be up and I tried to polish some of my stick and rudder skills, which of course are slightly different in the Tri-Q. Can’t really put my finger on the reason why, but it is probably related to the ailerons being planted dead center in the airframe. Anyway, it is starting to feel like my airplane now.  I also did some practice approaches down to a few feet off the runway, during a few circuits, then executed a fairly decent landing. I am not really comfortable with touch and goes yet on the short runway, but lowering it down to almost touching and holding it off then pushing the throttle and going around is good practice. So bottom line, it was a very nice day to be airborne and my Q thanked me for flying it as I put it away.

 

Cheers,

Jay Scheevel, Tri-Q2 N8WQ, 125 hours.

On Dec 19, 2020, at 5:44 PM, Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote:



Finally got up for the first time in almost 3 weeks today. Normally, I fly in the morning, but today was afternoon to let some low clouds burn of. The combination of the remaining haze and the low early afternoon sun was worth the price of admission (5 gallons in 0.9 hours).  Had a good time up surveying my house and the national park cliffs behind it and flying down the Colorado river, as well as north of town near the cliffs on that side of the valley. There was virtually no wind and definitely no turbulence, so it was a great day to be up and I tried to polish some of my stick and rudder skills, which of course are slightly different in the Tri-Q. Can’t really put my finger on the reason why, but it is probably related to the ailerons being planted dead center in the airframe. Anyway, it is starting to feel like my airplane now.  I also did some practice approaches down to a few feet off the runway, during a few circuits, then executed a fairly decent landing. I am not really comfortable with touch and goes yet on the short runway, but lowering it down to almost touching and holding it off then pushing the throttle and going around is good practice. So bottom line, it was a very nice day to be airborne and my Q thanked me for flying it as I put it away.

 

Cheers,

Jay Scheevel, Tri-Q2 N8WQ, 125 hours.

On Dec 19, 2020, at 6:18 PM, Dave Dugas via groups.io <davedq2@...> wrote:

Mike

On the Q members site I have an album with a few pictures of my autopilot installation. It's a TruTrak Pictorial Pilot, a single axis autopilot, and it works great. Avare is the program that I use on my tablet and it also works great.

Dave D

On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 4:16 PM, Mike via groups.io

<n7000t@...> wrote:

Hi Dave, 
Would you mind giving a little more information about your auto pilot set up and what app you’re using on your android .
love the videos!

thanks.  

Mike200 wannabe 

On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 4:16 PM, Mike via groups.io

<n7000t@...> wrote:

Hi Dave, 
Would you mind giving a little more information about your auto pilot set up and what app you’re using on your android .
love the videos!

thanks.  

Mike200 wannabe 

On Dec 16, 2020, at 22:26, Jim Patillo <Logistics_engineering@...> wrote:



How much do you want for it?

Sent from Outer Space

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From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Sam Kittle <skittle@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2020 8:24:45 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Power Supply

 

Jim,

 

I have one. 

 

Sam

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io [mailto:main@Q-List.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jim Patillo
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2020 7:21 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: [Q-List] Power Supply

 

Does anyone have a Whelen power supply you may want to part with? Mine took a crap. Its for 3 in 1 wing  strobe, nav and tail lights. See attachment. 

Jim
N46JP - Q200

 

How much do you want for it?

Sent from Outer Space

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Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2020 8:24:45 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Power Supply

 

Jim,

 

I have one. 

 

Sam

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io [mailto:main@Q-List.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jim Patillo
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2020 7:21 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: [Q-List] Power Supply

 

Does anyone have a Whelen power supply you may want to part with? Mine took a crap. Its for 3 in 1 wing  strobe, nav and tail lights. See attachment. 

Jim
N46JP - Q200

 

On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 10:21 PM, Jim Patillo

<Logistics_engineering@...> wrote:

Does anyone have a Whelen power supply you may want to part with? Mine took a crap. Its for 3 in 1 wing  strobe, nav and tail lights. See attachment. 

Jim
N46JP - Q200

 

Does anyone have a Whelen power supply you may want to part with? Mine took a crap. Its for 3 in 1 wing  strobe, nav and tail lights. See attachment. 

Jim
N46JP - Q200

Reflexer

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From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Jerry Marstall <jnmarstall@...>
Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2020 4:25 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Tri-Q vs QAC Belly Boards

 

For which? The reflexer or belly board?

-------- Original message --------

From: smeshno1@...

Date: 12/13/20 12:40 PM (GMT-05:00)

To: main@Q-List.groups.io

Subject: Re: [Q-List] Tri-Q vs QAC Belly Boards

 What is the mechanical/drive motor you used?  

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From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Jerry Marstall <jnmarstall@...>
Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2020 10:24 AM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Tri-Q vs QAC Belly Boards

 

Mac server from. ACS.  Yes, there is an indicator for server. You have to figure how you want server to hook to ailerons to reflex.

I dont think electric belly board is of value.

-------- Original message --------

From: smeshno1@...

Date: 12/13/20 10:51 AM (GMT-05:00)

To: main@Q-List.groups.io

Subject: Re: [Q-List] Tri-Q vs QAC Belly Boards

 I like this idea, Jerry. Do tell the parts involved please. Also.. you have an indicator of some sort for reflex 

position for takeoff? My first thoughts are aerodynamics would be improved with your system as well as

constant trim under thumb being an intuitive process.  

 My first CFI was a hard nosed airforce instructor that flew combat in Korea and Viet Nam. 

 He demanded I remain in a trimmed aircraft all the time. Forward hinged belly board also electric

 is another one added to the list of items to track down. 

 Vern    

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From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Jerry Marstall <jnmarstall@...>
Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2020 9:26 AM
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Subject: Re: [Q-List] Tri-Q vs QAC Belly Boards

 

To the contrary, I have my reflexer electric and operated by the trim button on my stick. I do not have elevator trim.  I use the reflexer for pitch trim.  I am trimming all the time, depending upon stick pressures. That way I am always flying a trimmed airplane.

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From: Richard Thomson <richard@...>

Date: 12/13/20 9:44 AM (GMT-05:00)

To: main@Q-List.groups.io

Subject: Re: [Q-List] Tri-Q vs QAC Belly Boards

Already made a new lever with the ratchet, but it's easy enough to lock in or out either end. 

As the rest is already there, manual sounds the easiest option for me with a new bit of leverage sorted out.

Went with the manual reflex for those same reasons, also keeping power consumption low and weight down.

Sometimes 2 cents is worth a fortune Jerry.

Rich T.

On 13/12/2020 12:44, Jerry Marstall wrote:

My 2-cents. Manual is faster to deploy and bring up.. No needed for incremental use ( no notches in lever). It's either full up or full down.  

Jerry 

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From: Richard Thomson <richard@...>

Date: 12/13/20 5:09 AM (GMT-05:00)

To: main@Q-List.groups.io

Subject: Re: [Q-List] Tri-Q vs QAC Belly Boards

Good idea Richard, Van's flap motor. gives more options. Thanks.

Rich T.

On 12/12/2020 20:54, Richard Kaczmarek 3RD wrote:

From my personal experience of having flown both I prefer the TriQ brake over the forward belly board. The placement does not cause the pitch change that we experienced with Doug's old Q2. We turned our original TriQ board around from the original rear hinge to the front due to seeing it flutter in flight. With the hinge on the front side we no longer ended up with exhaust smells in the cockpit during landings and the plane experienced an overall speed increase (door no longer grabbing air in the fludder) it can also handle being on a servo with a front hinge or even the Van's flap motor so you can see the degrees of deployment. 

Richard 

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From: Richard Thomson <richard@...>

Date: 12/12/20 3:28 PM (GMT-05:00)

To: main@Q-List.groups.io

Subject: Re: [Q-List] Tri-Q vs QAC Belly Boards

Hi Michael,

On my TriQ I have similar concerns to those Jerry notes in the mod write up, in fact when I got it, the belly board had been bolted shut and the handle was removed. I have replaced it to the TriQ plan, but it does sit slightly proud, at the corners, so for me Jerry's mod is something I will look to do on mine next year after we have got it flying.

The Triq nose gear fits along the underneath of the Canard, so probably not possible to use the Q2/Q200 Belly board, if you are wondering why there are 2 versions.

Br

Rich T.

On 12/12/2020 18:06, Michael wrote:

Figured I would post these based on today's discussion. Both sets of plans are available on Quickheads for comparison. Turns out my Q2 has the Tri-Q version (not sure why), so worth checking if you have a new or new-to-you Quickie?

QAC Q2/Q200 Belly Board Plans
Tri-Q Belly Board Drag Brake (Option)

The primary difference is in location, geometry, and materials:

1. The QAC version uses a carbon board originally sold as part of an upgrade kit, while the Tri-Q version uses the foam cut from the fuselage.
2. From the hinge, the QAC version is a long & tall rectangle, while the Tri-Q version is a narrow & wide rectangle.
3. The QAC version is located between the canard spar and under the forward part of the fuel tank (see last page of PDF), while the Tri-Q version goes behind the seat back bulkhead in the baggage/landing gear area (see last figure).

Both versions hinge from the rear and "scoop" air up from the front; although Jerry Marstall has flipped his around for reasons he explains. Haven't flown mine yet, so hopefully some experienced Q-drivers can chime in on what (if any) handling differences exist between the two versions...

Hope it helps,
--
-MD
#2827 (still thinking about planning on visualizing how to finish building)