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Re: Sparrow strainers Kevin Boddicker #50790 That was going to be my guess, but you beat me to it Earnest! Happy Thanksgiving everyone! God Bless Kevin Boddicker TriQ 200 N7868B 539 hrs Luana, IA. toggle quoted messageShow quoted text On Nov 25, 2020, at 7:19 AM, Earnest Martin via groups.io <MartinErni@...> wrote: QAC’s stated reason for putting the strainers inboard was, “ we can use a smaller strainer by putting it in the prop wash”. Earnest Martin 40 Glen Cove Drive Arden NC 28704-3219 828-230-5378 martinerni@... On Nov 24, 2020, at 9:58 PM, Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote: I agree with Bruce. For years I have tried to noodle out the reasoning that QAC recommended the inboard mounting of the sparrow strainers and it may have something to do with the stall of the canard beginning inboard so the incipient stall will partially washout on the sparrow strainer resulting in a sort of stall recovery effect by adding forward stick forces. This is just a guess on my part. Cheers, Jay -----Original Message----- From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bruce Crain Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2020 7:14 PM To: main@q-list.groups.io Subject: Re: [Q-List] Sparrow strainers After my experience with putting the sparrow strainer mid span I would just go with the plans. It is a given and midpoint is not. I put 1 1/2 degree up incidence on the canard and .8 up on the main wing. If you have a light and therefore fast Q the view over the nose will be good as the aft end flies higher the faster you fly. Bruce On Nov 24, 2020, at 4:03 PM, Dorothea Keats <dkeats@...> wrote: About to install the sparrow strainers on the Q200 elevator. I noticed on the video showing Bruces airplane , he had the strainers in the middle. Is there any concern installing them on the outboard side of the elevator as apposed to the inside? Should be finished most of the bodywork on the flying surfaces next week, so I will be able to install the canard and wing. Following some of the older threads, I think on the Q200 it is recommended by Sam and some others to add one more positive angle of attack on the canard. Did I get that right? The wing stays as is. Still picking micro from my nose, but the end is in sight. Take care-------------- Chris -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ____________________________________________________________ Sponsored by https://www.newser.com/?utm_source=part&utm_medium=uol&utm_campaign=rss_taglines_more Death Row Inmates Scam State Pandemic Benefits http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/5fbdbe0011d1f3dff5949st03duc1 Pennsylvania, Nevada Certify Vote Results http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/5fbdbe0030b7a3dff5949st03duc2 Flournoy May Not Be a Shoo-In for Defense After All http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/5fbdbe004fa7f3dff5949st03duc3
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Re: Sparrow strainers Chris Walterson #50789 Thanks for the info. Inboard it is---------- Chris -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
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Re: Success with LSE Install Corbin <c_geiser@...> #50788 Thanks Peter. Dying on short final is what I am most concerned about so glad you mention it. I am guessing, with the windmilling, the prop will still be close to 1,000rpms. Just a guess as I am no longer looking inside at that phase of flight....eyes outside by then. If so, then I believe I have the mixture set rich enough. I think the thing I need to get set just right is not to have it die as I get slow on the runway from it being too rich. -- Corbin N33QR
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Re: Success with LSE Install Peter Le Lievre <peter@...> #50787 Corbin, Set the mixture a little on the rich side so that the engine does not die on descent (ie short final) when the prop is windmilling. On my TSIO520 the engine needs to see an idle increase when mixture knob is leaned at idle. I dont have the manual for your engine but I expect it will require the same.
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Re: Sparrow strainers Jay Scheevel #50786 Thanks Earnest. I had not heard that. Cheers, Jay toggle quoted messageShow quoted text -----Original Message----- From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Earnest Martin via groups.io Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2020 6:20 AM To: main@q-list.groups.io Subject: Re: [Q-List] Sparrow strainers QAC’s stated reason for putting the strainers inboard was, “ we can use a smaller strainer by putting it in the prop wash”. Earnest Martin 40 Glen Cove Drive Arden NC 28704-3219 828-230-5378 martinerni@... On Nov 24, 2020, at 9:58 PM, Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote: I agree with Bruce. For years I have tried to noodle out the reasoning that QAC recommended the inboard mounting of the sparrow strainers and it may have something to do with the stall of the canard beginning inboard so the incipient stall will partially washout on the sparrow strainer resulting in a sort of stall recovery effect by adding forward stick forces. This is just a guess on my part. Cheers, Jay -----Original Message----- From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bruce Crain Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2020 7:14 PM To: main@q-list.groups.io Subject: Re: [Q-List] Sparrow strainers After my experience with putting the sparrow strainer mid span I would just go with the plans. It is a given and midpoint is not. I put 1 1/2 degree up incidence on the canard and .8 up on the main wing. If you have a light and therefore fast Q the view over the nose will be good as the aft end flies higher the faster you fly. Bruce On Nov 24, 2020, at 4:03 PM, Dorothea Keats <dkeats@...> wrote: About to install the sparrow strainers on the Q200 elevator. I noticed on the video showing Bruces airplane , he had the strainers in the middle. Is there any concern installing them on the outboard side of the elevator as apposed to the inside? Should be finished most of the bodywork on the flying surfaces next week, so I will be able to install the canard and wing. Following some of the older threads, I think on the Q200 it is recommended by Sam and some others to add one more positive angle of attack on the canard. Did I get that right? The wing stays as is. Still picking micro from my nose, but the end is in sight. Take care-------------- Chris -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ____________________________________________________________ Sponsored by https://www.newser.com/?utm_source=part&utm_medium=uol&utm_campaign=rss_taglines_more Death Row Inmates Scam State Pandemic Benefits http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/5fbdbe0011d1f3dff5949st03duc1 Pennsylvania, Nevada Certify Vote Results http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/5fbdbe0030b7a3dff5949st03duc2 Flournoy May Not Be a Shoo-In for Defense After All http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/5fbdbe004fa7f3dff5949st03duc3
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Re: Sparrow strainers Earnest Martin <MartinErni@...> #50785 QAC’s stated reason for putting the strainers inboard was, “ we can use a smaller strainer by putting it in the prop wash”. Earnest Martin 40 Glen Cove Drive Arden NC 28704-3219 828-230-5378 martinerni@... toggle quoted messageShow quoted text On Nov 24, 2020, at 9:58 PM, Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote: I agree with Bruce. For years I have tried to noodle out the reasoning that QAC recommended the inboard mounting of the sparrow strainers and it may have something to do with the stall of the canard beginning inboard so the incipient stall will partially washout on the sparrow strainer resulting in a sort of stall recovery effect by adding forward stick forces. This is just a guess on my part. Cheers, Jay -----Original Message----- From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bruce Crain Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2020 7:14 PM To: main@q-list.groups.io Subject: Re: [Q-List] Sparrow strainers After my experience with putting the sparrow strainer mid span I would just go with the plans. It is a given and midpoint is not. I put 1 1/2 degree up incidence on the canard and .8 up on the main wing. If you have a light and therefore fast Q the view over the nose will be good as the aft end flies higher the faster you fly. Bruce On Nov 24, 2020, at 4:03 PM, Dorothea Keats <dkeats@...> wrote: About to install the sparrow strainers on the Q200 elevator. I noticed on the video showing Bruces airplane , he had the strainers in the middle. Is there any concern installing them on the outboard side of the elevator as apposed to the inside? Should be finished most of the bodywork on the flying surfaces next week, so I will be able to install the canard and wing. Following some of the older threads, I think on the Q200 it is recommended by Sam and some others to add one more positive angle of attack on the canard. Did I get that right? The wing stays as is. Still picking micro from my nose, but the end is in sight. Take care-------------- Chris -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ____________________________________________________________ Sponsored by https://www.newser.com/?utm_source=part&utm_medium=uol&utm_campaign=rss_taglines_more Death Row Inmates Scam State Pandemic Benefits http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/5fbdbe0011d1f3dff5949st03duc1 Pennsylvania, Nevada Certify Vote Results http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/5fbdbe0030b7a3dff5949st03duc2 Flournoy May Not Be a Shoo-In for Defense After All http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/5fbdbe004fa7f3dff5949st03duc3
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Re: Sparrow strainers Mike Dwyer #50784 I'm going to guess that the inboard bearing is much better at handling the load from the sparow strainer. The center hinge is fairly weak. Mike toggle quoted messageShow quoted text On Tue, Nov 24, 2020, 9:58 PM Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote: I agree with Bruce. For years I have tried to noodle out the reasoning that QAC recommended the inboard mounting of the sparrow strainers and it may have something to do with the stall of the canard beginning inboard so the incipient stall will partially washout on the sparrow strainer resulting in a sort of stall recovery effect by adding forward stick forces. This is just a guess on my part. Cheers, Jay -----Original Message----- From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bruce Crain Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2020 7:14 PM To: main@q-list.groups.io Subject: Re: [Q-List] Sparrow strainers After my experience with putting the sparrow strainer mid span I would just go with the plans. It is a given and midpoint is not. I put 1 1/2 degree up incidence on the canard and .8 up on the main wing. If you have a light and therefore fast Q the view over the nose will be good as the aft end flies higher the faster you fly. Bruce > On Nov 24, 2020, at 4:03 PM, Dorothea Keats <dkeats@...> wrote: > > About to install the sparrow strainers on the Q200 elevator. I noticed on the video showing Bruces airplane , he had the strainers in the middle. Is there any concern installing them on the outboard side of the elevator as apposed to the inside? > > Should be finished most of the bodywork on the flying surfaces next week, so I will be able to install the canard and wing. Following some of the older threads, I think on the Q200 it is recommended by Sam and some others to add one more positive angle of attack on the canard. Did I get that right? The wing stays as is. > > Still picking micro from my nose, but the end is in sight. Take care-------------- Chris > > > -- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ Sponsored by https://www.newser.com/?utm_source=part&utm_medium=uol&utm_campaign=rss_taglines_more Death Row Inmates Scam State Pandemic Benefits http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/5fbdbe0011d1f3dff5949st03duc1 Pennsylvania, Nevada Certify Vote Results http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/5fbdbe0030b7a3dff5949st03duc2 Flournoy May Not Be a Shoo-In for Defense After All http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/5fbdbe004fa7f3dff5949st03duc3
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Re: Sparrow strainers Jay Scheevel #50783 I agree with Bruce. For years I have tried to noodle out the reasoning that QAC recommended the inboard mounting of the sparrow strainers and it may have something to do with the stall of the canard beginning inboard so the incipient stall will partially washout on the sparrow strainer resulting in a sort of stall recovery effect by adding forward stick forces. This is just a guess on my part. Cheers, Jay toggle quoted messageShow quoted text -----Original Message----- From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bruce Crain Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2020 7:14 PM To: main@q-list.groups.io Subject: Re: [Q-List] Sparrow strainers After my experience with putting the sparrow strainer mid span I would just go with the plans. It is a given and midpoint is not. I put 1 1/2 degree up incidence on the canard and .8 up on the main wing. If you have a light and therefore fast Q the view over the nose will be good as the aft end flies higher the faster you fly. Bruce On Nov 24, 2020, at 4:03 PM, Dorothea Keats <dkeats@...> wrote: About to install the sparrow strainers on the Q200 elevator. I noticed on the video showing Bruces airplane , he had the strainers in the middle. Is there any concern installing them on the outboard side of the elevator as apposed to the inside? Should be finished most of the bodywork on the flying surfaces next week, so I will be able to install the canard and wing. Following some of the older threads, I think on the Q200 it is recommended by Sam and some others to add one more positive angle of attack on the canard. Did I get that right? The wing stays as is. Still picking micro from my nose, but the end is in sight. Take care-------------- Chris -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ____________________________________________________________ Sponsored by https://www.newser.com/?utm_source=part&utm_medium=uol&utm_campaign=rss_taglines_more Death Row Inmates Scam State Pandemic Benefits http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/5fbdbe0011d1f3dff5949st03duc1 Pennsylvania, Nevada Certify Vote Results http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/5fbdbe0030b7a3dff5949st03duc2 Flournoy May Not Be a Shoo-In for Defense After All http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/5fbdbe004fa7f3dff5949st03duc3
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Re: Sparrow strainers Bruce Crain #50782 After my experience with putting the sparrow strainer mid span I would just go with the plans. It is a given and midpoint is not. I put 1 1/2 degree up incidence on the canard and .8 up on the main wing. If you have a light and therefore fast Q the view over the nose will be good as the aft end flies higher the faster you fly. Bruce On Nov 24, 2020, at 4:03 PM, Dorothea Keats <dkeats@...> wrote: About to install the sparrow strainers on the Q200 elevator. I noticed on the video showing Bruces airplane , he had the strainers in the middle. Is there any concern installing them on the outboard side of the elevator as apposed to the inside? Should be finished most of the bodywork on the flying surfaces next week, so I will be able to install the canard and wing. Following some of the older threads, I think on the Q200 it is recommended by Sam and some others to add one more positive angle of attack on the canard. Did I get that right? The wing stays as is. Still picking micro from my nose, but the end is in sight. Take care-------------- Chris -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ____________________________________________________________ Sponsored by https://www.newser.com/?utm_source=part&utm_medium=uol&utm_campaign=rss_taglines_more Death Row Inmates Scam State Pandemic Benefits http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/5fbdbe0011d1f3dff5949st03duc1 Pennsylvania, Nevada Certify Vote Results http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/5fbdbe0030b7a3dff5949st03duc2 Flournoy May Not Be a Shoo-In for Defense After All http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/5fbdbe004fa7f3dff5949st03duc3
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Sparrow strainers Chris Walterson #50781 About to install the sparrow strainers on the Q200 elevator. I noticed on the video showing Bruces airplane , he had the strainers in the middle. Is there any concern installing them on the outboard side of the elevator as apposed to the inside? Should be finished most of the bodywork on the flying surfaces next week, so I will be able to install the canard and wing. Following some of the older threads, I think on the Q200 it is recommended by Sam and some others to add one more positive angle of attack on the canard. Did I get that right? The wing stays as is. Still picking micro from my nose, but the end is in sight. Take care-------------- Chris -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
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Re: FW: formation Jerry Marstall <jnmarstall@...> #50780 I'm known for my self-control. toggle quoted messageShow quoted text -------- Original message -------- From: Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...> Date: 11/24/20 2:01 PM (GMT-05:00) To: main@Q-List.groups.io Subject: Re: [Q-List] FW: formation But she's really really! cute! I don't know how you can have enough "resolve" to social distance! Just sayin'! Bruce ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Paul Fisher" <rv7a.n18pf@...> To: main@q-list.groups.io Subject: Re: [Q-List] FW: formation Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2020 11:07:05 -0600 Looks like fun! I'm glad you were being safe and maintaining your distance. On Tue, Nov 24, 2020, 10:27 Jerry Marstall <jnmarstall@...> wrote: Flying "loose" formation on my wife Nancy's wing. You know, social distancing and all. Jerry -------- Original message --------
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Re: FW: formation Bruce Crain #50779 But she's really really! cute! I don't know how you can have enough "resolve" to social distance! Just sayin'! Bruce toggle quoted messageShow quoted text ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Paul Fisher" <rv7a.n18pf@...> To: main@q-list.groups.io Subject: Re: [Q-List] FW: formation Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2020 11:07:05 -0600 Looks like fun! I'm glad you were being safe and maintaining your distance. On Tue, Nov 24, 2020, 10:27 Jerry Marstall <jnmarstall@...> wrote: Flying "loose" formation on my wife Nancy's wing. You know, social distancing and all. Jerry -------- Original message --------
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Re: FW: formation Jerry Marstall <jnmarstall@...> #50778 Thanks Richard. Most appreciated. Jerry toggle quoted messageShow quoted text -------- Original message -------- From: Richard Thomson <richard@...> Date: 11/24/20 11:58 AM (GMT-05:00) To: main@Q-List.groups.io Subject: Re: [Q-List] FW: formation Great bit of flying Jerry, very stable. :-) Rich T. On 24/11/2020 16:27, Jerry Marstall wrote: Flying "loose" formation on my wife Nancy's wing. You know, social distancing and all. Jerry -------- Original message --------
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Re: FW: formation Jerry Marstall <jnmarstall@...> #50777 Hello Mike, Yes. It was slow developing but it turned out beautifully. Jerry toggle quoted messageShow quoted text -------- Original message -------- From: Mike Dwyer <q200pilot@...> Date: 11/24/20 12:30 PM (GMT-05:00) To: main@q-list.groups.io Subject: Re: [Q-List] FW: formation I had to change the file name from .3pg to .mpg and then it worked. Hey, did you have nice fall colors this year? Fly Safe, Mike Dwyer YouTube Videos: https://youtu.be/tqHRuspBwC0 Q200 Website: http://goo.gl/V8IrJF On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 11:27 AM Jerry Marstall <jnmarstall@...> wrote: Flying "loose" formation on my wife Nancy's wing. You know, social distancing and all. Jerry -------- Original message --------
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Re: FW: formation Mike Dwyer #50776 I had to change the file name from .3pg to .mpg and then it worked. Hey, did you have nice fall colors this year? Fly Safe, Mike Dwyer YouTube Videos: https://youtu.be/tqHRuspBwC0 Q200 Website: http://goo.gl/V8IrJF toggle quoted messageShow quoted text On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 11:27 AM Jerry Marstall <jnmarstall@...> wrote: Flying "loose" formation on my wife Nancy's wing. You know, social distancing and all. Jerry -------- Original message --------
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Re: FW: formation Paul Fisher #50775 Looks like fun! I'm glad you were being safe and maintaining your distance. toggle quoted messageShow quoted text On Tue, Nov 24, 2020, 10:27 Jerry Marstall <jnmarstall@...> wrote: Flying "loose" formation on my wife Nancy's wing. You know, social distancing and all. Jerry -------- Original message --------
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Re: FW: formation Richard Thomson #50774 Great bit of flying Jerry, very stable. :-) Rich T. On 24/11/2020 16:27, Jerry Marstall wrote: toggle quoted messageShow quoted text Flying "loose" formation on my wife Nancy's wing. You know, social distancing and all. Jerry -------- Original message --------
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FW: formation Jerry Marstall <jnmarstall@...> #50773 Flying "loose" formation on my wife Nancy's wing. You know, social distancing and all. Jerry toggle quoted messageShow quoted text -------- Original message -------- IMG950897.3gp
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Re: Success with LSE Install Michel Royer #50772 Klaus,,, useful as usual
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Re: Success with LSE Install Corbin <c_geiser@...> #50771 Edited I will likely update on the channel but could also post something just for this group as well. Good idea. CorbinAviation YT Channel -- Corbin N33QR
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