Re: Watch “Dr. Steve’s first solo flight in his Q2 - 1989” on Vimeo
That was a bit frightening to watch. Jim - I can relate....I brought mine to a 7,000ft x 150ft runway to finish off my training and solo (600ft msl). Corbin
On April 9, 2020 at 9:40 AM, "John Hoxie via groups.io" <hoxdesigns@...> wrote:
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Re: Watch “Dr. Steve’s first solo flight in his Q2 - 1989” on Vimeo
Jim, I would not have relished Dr. Steve's position landing on that short of runway, with obstacles at both ends without an airbrake. Do you know what the runway length was? Is he still flying currently? If I ever finish my Q, although my local runway is 4,200 feet in elevation, it's 9,200 feet long and 100 feet wide. John Hoxie He is no fool, who gives up what he can not keep, to gain what he can not loose -- Jim Elliot
On Thursday, April 9, 2020, 12:32:34 AM MDT, Jim Patillo <logistics_engineering@...> wrote:
Q2 - 1989 https://vimeo.com/16817064?ref=em-share I thought some of you newer guys might like to watch Dr. Steve K’s first solo flight in his Quickie. Definitely not a good way to start. Jim N46JP Q200 Sent from Outer Space
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Re: Ready for Spring Fling!!
I drove ten hours to the last Field of Dreams and met those in attendance. I have pics and videos of the experience.
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Re: Help, Bruce
Dave Dugas
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Ready for Spring Fling!!
From: Jim Patillo <logistics_engineering@...>
Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2020 8:25:09 PM To: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> Subject: Re: [Q-List] Ready for Spring Fling!! Why did he have to pull the cases apart to install a heli-coil for a cylinder?
Jim
N46JP Q200
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From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...>
Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2020 8:19:48 PM To: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> Subject: Re: [Q-List] Ready for Spring Fling!! Go carefully when you torque up the driven studs and then the cylinder base nuts! Imraan and I pulled a stud when re installing his number 3 cylinder. He had to have the case apart and have heli-coils installed. Not fun!
Bruce
---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Jim Patillo" <Logistics_engineering@...> To: "main@Q-List.groups.io" <main@Q-List.groups.io> Subject: Re: [Q-List] Ready for Spring Fling!! Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 00:38:01 +0000 Thank you Bruce for all your help. I don�t have any heli-coils installed (yet). But I get what your saying. Will let you know when I get there.
Jim
N46JP Q200
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From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...>
Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2020 5:19:25 PM To: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> Subject: Re: [Q-List] Ready for Spring Fling!! Say Jim when you go back in with the thru bolts for cylinder #4 you will obviously have to thread the bolts back into the opposite case. When I pulled my #4 I tried to re-torque the thru bolts "driven studs" to spec of 300 inch lbs or 25 foot lbs because
one of the studs seemed a little long when I originally mounted the cylinder at overhaul. And because I was curious about their original torque. As I started to torque the two it seemed they were going in a bit further than I thought they should. So I stopped
and then remounted the cylinder and torqued the cylinder base bolts to the prescribed >490 inch lbs or >40 foot lbs for 7/16-20 bolts and >410 inch lbs or >34 foot lbs for the 3/8 -24 bolts.
I called Buddy at D and B Engines the next day and asked him what was going on with the driven studs not making torque. He said you most likely have a heli-coil in place and the heli-coil has drilled hole at the end of it which makes the end of the hole
further in from the heli-coil. I know clear as mud, but think about how you drill and screw in a heli-coil. I may have been bottoming out the threads on the bolt and screwing in the heli-coil more than originally mounted from Divco in Tulsa when they re
built my case halves.
So unless you have a thru stud sticking out to far to get a cylinder base wrench on it when you mount it you might measure the other cylinder base bolts to see if they are sticking out any extra. If you have any questions I would direct you to Buddy at
D and B. It seemed so much more simple when he described the procedure.
Bruce Crain
P.S. I put the picture of you and Bob Farnam 2 ship on Face Book and branded you two of the fastest Q's flying! Hope you didn't mind! That is a beautiful picture!
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Watch “Dr. Steve’s first solo flight in his Q2 - 1989” on Vimeo
Q2 - 1989” on Vimeo:
https://vimeo.com/16817064?ref=em-share
I thought some of you newer fellas might enjoy watching Dr. Steve K’s first solo flight in his Quickie. Jim N46JP Q200
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Watch “Dr. Steve’s first solo flight in his Q2 - 1989” on Vimeo
Q2 - 1989 https://vimeo.com/16817064?ref=em-share
I thought some of you newer guys might like to watch Dr. Steve K’s first solo flight in his Quickie. Definitely not a good way to start. Jim N46JP Q200 Sent from Outer Space
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Help, Bruce
Bruce, at Field of dreams, Dave Dougas shared he had some tailspring material he would sell me. I can't find contact info for him. There are only 18 people in the registry.
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Re: Ready for Spring Fling!!
It's a 20 hour drive to Spring Fling from southern NM. Anyone from Southern Cal, Southern AZ, New Mexico, West Oklahoma or West Texas have room for 170 pounds of paying ballast?
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Re: Ready for Spring Fling!!
Why did he have to pull the cases apart to install a heli-coil for a cylinder?
Jim
N46JP Q200
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From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...>
Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2020 8:19:48 PM To: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> Subject: Re: [Q-List] Ready for Spring Fling!! Go carefully when you torque up the driven studs and then the cylinder base nuts! Imraan and I pulled a stud when re installing his number 3 cylinder. He had to have the case apart and have heli-coils installed. Not fun!
Bruce
---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Jim Patillo" <Logistics_engineering@...> To: "main@Q-List.groups.io" <main@Q-List.groups.io> Subject: Re: [Q-List] Ready for Spring Fling!! Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 00:38:01 +0000 Thank you Bruce for all your help. I don�t have any heli-coils installed (yet). But I get what your saying. Will let you know when I get there.
Jim
N46JP Q200
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From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...>
Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2020 5:19:25 PM To: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> Subject: Re: [Q-List] Ready for Spring Fling!! Say Jim when you go back in with the thru bolts for cylinder #4 you will obviously have to thread the bolts back into the opposite case. When I pulled my #4 I tried to re-torque the thru bolts "driven studs" to spec of 300 inch lbs or 25 foot lbs because
one of the studs seemed a little long when I originally mounted the cylinder at overhaul. And because I was curious about their original torque. As I started to torque the two it seemed they were going in a bit further than I thought they should. So I stopped
and then remounted the cylinder and torqued the cylinder base bolts to the prescribed >490 inch lbs or >40 foot lbs for 7/16-20 bolts and >410 inch lbs or >34 foot lbs for the 3/8 -24 bolts.
I called Buddy at D and B Engines the next day and asked him what was going on with the driven studs not making torque. He said you most likely have a heli-coil in place and the heli-coil has drilled hole at the end of it which makes the end of the hole
further in from the heli-coil. I know clear as mud, but think about how you drill and screw in a heli-coil. I may have been bottoming out the threads on the bolt and screwing in the heli-coil more than originally mounted from Divco in Tulsa when they re
built my case halves.
So unless you have a thru stud sticking out to far to get a cylinder base wrench on it when you mount it you might measure the other cylinder base bolts to see if they are sticking out any extra. If you have any questions I would direct you to Buddy at
D and B. It seemed so much more simple when he described the procedure.
Bruce Crain
P.S. I put the picture of you and Bob Farnam 2 ship on Face Book and branded you two of the fastest Q's flying! Hope you didn't mind! That is a beautiful picture!
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Re: Ready for Spring Fling!!
Go carefully when you torque up the driven studs and then the cylinder base nuts! Imraan and I pulled a stud when re installing his number 3 cylinder. He had to have the case apart and have heli-coils installed. Not fun!
Bruce
---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Jim Patillo" <Logistics_engineering@...> To: "main@Q-List.groups.io" <main@Q-List.groups.io> Subject: Re: [Q-List] Ready for Spring Fling!! Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 00:38:01 +0000 Thank you Bruce for all your help. I don�t have any heli-coils installed (yet). But I get what your saying. Will let you know when I get there.
Jim
N46JP Q200
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From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...>
Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2020 5:19:25 PM To: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> Subject: Re: [Q-List] Ready for Spring Fling!! Say Jim when you go back in with the thru bolts for cylinder #4 you will obviously have to thread the bolts back into the opposite case. When I pulled my #4 I tried to re-torque the thru bolts "driven studs" to spec of 300 inch lbs or 25 foot lbs because one of the studs seemed a little long when I originally mounted the cylinder at overhaul. And because I was curious about their original torque. As I started to torque the two it seemed they were going in a bit further than I thought they should. So I stopped and then remounted the cylinder and torqued the cylinder base bolts to the prescribed >490 inch lbs or >40 foot lbs for 7/16-20 bolts and >410 inch lbs or >34 foot lbs for the 3/8 -24 bolts.
I called Buddy at D and B Engines the next day and asked him what was going on with the driven studs not making torque. He said you most likely have a heli-coil in place and the heli-coil has drilled hole at the end of it which makes the end of the hole further in from the heli-coil. I know clear as mud, but think about how you drill and screw in a heli-coil. I may have been bottoming out the threads on the bolt and screwing in the heli-coil more than originally mounted from Divco in Tulsa when they re built my case halves.
So unless you have a thru stud sticking out to far to get a cylinder base wrench on it when you mount it you might measure the other cylinder base bolts to see if they are sticking out any extra. If you have any questions I would direct you to Buddy at D and B. It seemed so much more simple when he described the procedure.
Bruce Crain
P.S. I put the picture of you and Bob Farnam 2 ship on Face Book and branded you two of the fastest Q's flying! Hope you didn't mind! That is a beautiful picture!
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Re: Flight Report
Jim,
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I’m standing by for the dust and virus to settle. Cool pictures . Maybe Roger can help me with the tips when I’m finally here with the new one. MikeQ200wannabe
On Apr 8, 2020, at 5:55 PM, Jim Patillo <Logistics_Engineering@...> wrote:
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Re: Flight Report
Hi Mike, yes BABY homes in on Auburn well cause she wants to go home!😊.
Hang in there buddy. One of those guys should cut loose soon and you will be representing us in Vegas before you know it.
Maybe we should turn it into a fast single seat with side stick and storage on both sides. I use to fly around with a pax alot
But last couple years, just me. Just sayin’
Check out this Berkut 360. He showed up this am. I think he resides in Mohave. The rear winglets are about 4’ tall. Kinda weird.
I wonder how much induced drag that creates.
Jim
N46JP Q200
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Re: Ready for Spring Fling!!
Thank you Bruce for all your help. I don’t have any heli-coils installed (yet). But I get what your saying. Will let you know when I get there.
Jim
N46JP Q200
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From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...>
Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2020 5:19:25 PM To: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> Subject: Re: [Q-List] Ready for Spring Fling!! Say Jim when you go back in with the thru bolts for cylinder #4 you will obviously have to thread the bolts back into the opposite case. When I pulled my #4 I tried to re-torque the thru bolts "driven studs" to spec of 300 inch lbs or 25 foot lbs because
one of the studs seemed a little long when I originally mounted the cylinder at overhaul. And because I was curious about their original torque. As I started to torque the two it seemed they were going in a bit further than I thought they should. So I stopped
and then remounted the cylinder and torqued the cylinder base bolts to the prescribed >490 inch lbs or >40 foot lbs for 7/16-20 bolts and >410 inch lbs or >34 foot lbs for the 3/8 -24 bolts.
I called Buddy at D and B Engines the next day and asked him what was going on with the driven studs not making torque. He said you most likely have a heli-coil in place and the heli-coil has drilled hole at the end of it which makes the end of the hole
further in from the heli-coil. I know clear as mud, but think about how you drill and screw in a heli-coil. I may have been bottoming out the threads on the bolt and screwing in the heli-coil more than originally mounted from Divco in Tulsa when they re
built my case halves.
So unless you have a thru stud sticking out to far to get a cylinder base wrench on it when you mount it you might measure the other cylinder base bolts to see if they are sticking out any extra. If you have any questions I would direct you to Buddy at
D and B. It seemed so much more simple when he described the procedure.
Bruce Crain
P.S. I put the picture of you and Bob Farnam 2 ship on Face Book and branded you two of the fastest Q's flying! Hope you didn't mind! That is a beautiful picture!
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Re: Ready for Spring Fling!!
Say Jim when you go back in with the thru bolts for cylinder #4 you will obviously have to thread the bolts back into the opposite case. When I pulled my #4 I tried to re-torque the thru bolts "driven studs" to spec of 300 inch lbs or 25 foot lbs because one of the studs seemed a little long when I originally mounted the cylinder at overhaul. And because I was curious about their original torque. As I started to torque the two it seemed they were going in a bit further than I thought they should. So I stopped and then remounted the cylinder and torqued the cylinder base bolts to the prescribed >490 inch lbs or >40 foot lbs for 7/16-20 bolts and >410 inch lbs or >34 foot lbs for the 3/8 -24 bolts.
I called Buddy at D and B Engines the next day and asked him what was going on with the driven studs not making torque. He said you most likely have a heli-coil in place and the heli-coil has drilled hole at the end of it which makes the end of the hole further in from the heli-coil. I know clear as mud, but think about how you drill and screw in a heli-coil. I may have been bottoming out the threads on the bolt and screwing in the heli-coil more than originally mounted from Divco in Tulsa when they re built my case halves.
So unless you have a thru stud sticking out to far to get a cylinder base wrench on it when you mount it you might measure the other cylinder base bolts to see if they are sticking out any extra. If you have any questions I would direct you to Buddy at D and B. It seemed so much more simple when he described the procedure.
Bruce Crain
P.S. I put the picture of you and Bob Farnam 2 ship on Face Book and branded you two of the fastest Q's flying! Hope you didn't mind! That is a beautiful picture!
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Re: QuIckie Q2 Project
Jon Matcho
Eugen,
I wrote you back on April 1 and manually sent your download link that same day. Just today I received this email rejection message from your mail server (@gmx.net): Action: failed
Final-Recipient: rfc822;interbus@...
Status: 5.0.0
Remote-MTA: dns; mx00.emig.gmx.net
Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 554-gmx.net (mxgmx014) Nemesis ESMTP Service not available
554-No SMTP service
554-Reject due to policy restrictions.
That's why you didn't receive ANY of my emails, including the system order download. I'll be happy to send you your download link to a different email address. Thanks, Jon
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Re: QuIckie Q2 Project
Hi Jay,
so far I got not any response from the Quickheads owner or my try with PM on canard forum about the plans for Quickie Q2 I pay for already. Well, how much it will be cost that you will go for a copy shop to make a scan of all the appendix sheet? Eugen
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Re: Flight Report
Hey Jim,
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Looks you have a homing beacon inside that auto pilot of yours to go to and from work! Nice video Mike! We all long to do that flying stuff for sure! MikeQ200wannabe
On Apr 7, 2020, at 10:14 PM, Jim Patillo <Logistics_Engineering@...> wrote:
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Hey Mike, nice video. Does that thing float? Just askin😊. I remember one up in Canada seemed to do ok when it landed in a lake.
I’ve flown throughout this entire Covid 19 thing and always under NorCal Center Control.
Today is the first time the sky’s were busy in Northern Ca., since they shut things down. Maybe things will start looking up.
Jim
N46JP Q200
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From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Mike Dwyer <q200pilot@...>
Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2020 4:30:16 PM To: Q_List <Q-List@groups.io> Subject: [Q-List] Flight Report Wow. it's been a while sense last flying. Our local airport closed RWY 9-27. I guess they didn't want to re-pave it. I kinda hated that runway anyway... But then they decided to pave the intersecting end where the last two runways were.
Then they closed the good runway 4-22 and left all the Training flights, Air Carriers, Coast Guard choppers and C130's to fight it out. The ground controllers have aged 10 years. The tower folks are doing fine, just keep em circling!
Then came COVID! At least aviation is critical. But what happened is COVID grounded most of the air carriers. It might have really slowed down the coast guard also as I didn't see any of them at the airport. I'd say we are back to the traffic count
from 1980.
So planning on a long and hot taxi I fired up the Q200. Luckily they were using RWY 36 so that's my shortest taxi. No 3 min wake turbulence delays! Got right off. Flew about an hour, all the way down our beaches from Tarpon Springs FL to Egmont Key.
Our beaches are closed. So from the water to the high tide line is the only place people can be. How did these people get on the beach? Some took boats, that's ok. Most cheated the system.
Anyway a beautiful day for aviating, 80F, clear sky, 7K cross wind. Check out the video I shot. Unfortunately most of the video was shot pointing into the sun which kinda wrecks it. And my front camera died pretty early so it didn't get the landing...
Still I needed proof. I took out the parts the feds might not have liked 😬
Get your Q done while your on Furlough!
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Re: Ready for Spring Fling!!
Will do Jay.
Jim
N46JP Q200
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From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Jay Scheevel <jay@...>
Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2020 2:08:26 PM To: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> Subject: Re: [Q-List] Ready for Spring Fling!! One of my favorite photos Jim! Give my best to Bob F, next time to you see him.
Cheers, Jay
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On Behalf Of Jim Patillo
Wilko.
Jim N46JP Q200
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Any Flights of 2 or more need to keep at least 6 feet apart!
On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 10:47 AM Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...> wrote:
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