Date   

2018 FOD

Jerry Marstall
 

Bruce, you may now close the books on the 2018 FOD.  This afternoon, after 25 days of hangaring out with a Learjet and a King Air, I actually retrieved my Q from Memphis.  It couldn’t have been a more beautiful day.  The ride from Asheville to Memphis was in a Columbia (nice, but I prefer the Q).  All day for 433sm, it was clear skies, not one bump, 50+ mile visibility and a purring O-200.  Just stretched out, leaned back and let her go.

 

The folks at Tulsair Beechcraft at Milllington, TN KNQA are phenomenal.  Not only did they not charge me a penny for 25 days of hangaring, they sell gas at $3.92.  Base customers get it for $2.95.  Since they thought the Q was “cute” (or did they mean me), they gave me the $2.95 rate.  That really helped when I needed to put 62-gal in the Columbia. If you are ever in the area, make sure you stop in and see them.  They are super great people. 

 

Anyway.  All the Q’s are finally home.  Can’t wait until next year’s FOD.  I should probably start now.

 

Jerry

 

Jerry


Re: Flight Report

Sam Hoskins
 

It all sounds good Mike. Yes the ADS-B is really good at finding aircraft that you didn't think were there. Here is a decent article about adjusting your idle mixture. It's not exactly the same carburetor, but the idea is exactly the same.

On Sat, Oct 13, 2018, 3:48 PM 'jcrain2@...' jcrain2@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:
 

Way to go Mike!  Now you are ready for a long flight September 20-22, 2019 for “Field Of Dreams” here in Enid, OK!  A lot of us come a day or two earlier and stay and extra day or two as we just have such a great time together!  And the airplanes a fantastic comfortable cross country transportation!  We will take great care of you!
Bruce Crain

---------- Original Message ----------
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To: <Q-LIST@...>
Subject: [Q-LIST] Flight Report
Date: 13 Oct 2018 19:27:23 +0000

 

Fellow Q'ers.  I'd been fighting with high oil consumption (2 hrs per qt), oil on the Q200's belly, and fowled plugs so I bit the bullet and bought 4 new Millenium Cyls.  These came with new pistons, rings, valve covers, rocker arms.  Took a couple of days to install them.  The rocker covers are a little bigger in some areas than the old Continental covers.  This caused a minor mod to my baffels and the left side slightly touched the cowling (found after flying).  In flight, due to the touching, the engine sounded a bit weird...  So I got warmed up and flew for 1.2 hours at redline.  The CHT's dropped in minutes, like Sam said.  Now I have 4.2 hours on it, all at redline and have used very little oil.  The last flight looks like around 10 hours per quart but that's not very accurate, I need more hours to tell.

 

I'm planning on flying it hard for the next 10 hours to make sure I get the rings broke in.  

 

Todays flight was up and down the beach.  Beautiful day here in West Central Florida.  

FlightAware has my flight path here:

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N3QP

 

I run ADS-B in and out.  Today 3 people tried to run into me but because I had them on "radar" they were not able to get me!  Really, ADS-b is awesome.  Two of these targets actually turned toward me as I neared them but I'd already climbed 500' to avoid them.  I rocked my wings at all of them but I doubt they saw me cause they just kept buzzing along.

 

Question for you MA3SPA carb experts.  My idle mixture is way too rich (dry black spark plugs).  I now have the idle mixture screw totally in (closed) and it seems better.  I got to pull a plug to see how it's burning so will do that one day this next week.  In the carb there are 3 holes that leak idle fuel then below that there is the Idle Mixture screw.  Is there some kind of limitation on fuel going to these idle mixture ports?  Maybe my carb is missing some kind of restriction?  I did check the Accelerator pump valves and they stop back flow perfectly.  The carb gaskets are good.  The float has the correct fuel level.  Above idle the carb is working great, can lean it, watch the EGT's rise.  On shutdown, pulling the mixture kills the engine nicely.  Any ideas?

 

Fly Safe,

Mike N3QP Q200

 

 



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Re: Flight Report

Bruce Crain
 


Flight Report

Mike Dwyer
 

Fellow Q'ers.  I'd been fighting with high oil consumption (2 hrs per qt), oil on the Q200's belly, and fowled plugs so I bit the bullet and bought 4 new Millenium Cyls.  These came with new pistons, rings, valve covers, rocker arms.  Took a couple of days to install them.  The rocker covers are a little bigger in some areas than the old Continental covers.  This caused a minor mod to my baffels and the left side slightly touched the cowling (found after flying).  In flight, due to the touching, the engine sounded a bit weird...  So I got warmed up and flew for 1.2 hours at redline.  The CHT's dropped in minutes, like Sam said.  Now I have 4.2 hours on it, all at redline and have used very little oil.  The last flight looks like around 10 hours per quart but that's not very accurate, I need more hours to tell.


I'm planning on flying it hard for the next 10 hours to make sure I get the rings broke in.  


Todays flight was up and down the beach.  Beautiful day here in West Central Florida.  

FlightAware has my flight path here:

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N3QP


I run ADS-B in and out.  Today 3 people tried to run into me but because I had them on "radar" they were not able to get me!  Really, ADS-b is awesome.  Two of these targets actually turned toward me as I neared them but I'd already climbed 500' to avoid them.  I rocked my wings at all of them but I doubt they saw me cause they just kept buzzing along.


Question for you MA3SPA carb experts.  My idle mixture is way too rich (dry black spark plugs).  I now have the idle mixture screw totally in (closed) and it seems better.  I got to pull a plug to see how it's burning so will do that one day this next week.  In the carb there are 3 holes that leak idle fuel then below that there is the Idle Mixture screw.  Is there some kind of limitation on fuel going to these idle mixture ports?  Maybe my carb is missing some kind of restriction?  I did check the Accelerator pump valves and they stop back flow perfectly.  The carb gaskets are good.  The float has the correct fuel level.  Above idle the carb is working great, can lean it, watch the EGT's rise.  On shutdown, pulling the mixture kills the engine nicely.  Any ideas?


Fly Safe,

Mike N3QP Q200


Re: Trip report: and Paul Fisher wins this round

Jay Scheevel
 

Thanks again to all the FOD prep crew. Really was a good time and looking forward to next year. Perhaps I will have my 35 year wonder there.

 

Cheers,

Jay Scheevel

N8WQ

 

From: Q-LIST@...
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To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Trip report: and Paul Fisher wins this round

 

 

Yippee skippe!   Now all that‘s left is to fly her around and enjoy!  Way to go Imraan and FOD Team!  What a great time with the folks and airplanes you love!!  Say, we could possibly build a “One Week Wonder” next year!!  I’ll see if my epoxie is still good!  Maybe we could get some young football players to do the sanding for us!  🤔

You guys are the best!

Bro Bruce

---------- Original Message ----------
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To: <Q-LIST@...>
Subject: [Q-LIST] Trip report: and Paul Fisher wins this round
Date: 11 Oct 2018 11:32:07 -0700

 

 

It was terrific seeing everyone at FOD.  (and this was the biggest turnout I can remember--good work all!) 

 

FOD attendees will recall that I had an o-200 had an oil seep from the front case of the engine.  We were collectively suspicious of the prop oil seal.  A committee of folks, led by Terry's impressive experience, following instructions printed by Sam and myself, and armed with some supplies and tools arranged by Bruce, carefully worked the old prop seal out over a couple of hours.  I had previously been less insistent in removing this seal.

 

Terry walked us through cleaning up, inspecting, and reworking the relevant surfaces. We installed a new seal I had picked up the last time I considered this job and secured it using the cross-substituted Loctite 515 and ethel hexanoic acid. Spelling is from memory--apologies to Ethel if I mis-spelled her or her friend's last name. Much thanks to everyone for the hard work and thorough supervision.

 

At some point during this process, Paul Fisher mentioned "you know, you might check the torque on the case halve bolts. 

 

Well I ground ran the plane (success) and then flew it home, and there wasn't enough oil on the engine to see much of a leak.  I cleaned the residual oil off the engine and again ground ran it--still nothing really to speak of.  I got to fly the plane on a ~1800nm trip this week.  During the trip, I discovered that the engine was still seeping. :0

 

I retorqued the case bolts IAW Continental torque specs.

 

I'm always reticent to say that something aviation related is working properly lest I antagonize it.  But the front of the engine was dry for my return trip after 6 hr flight time and that made me happy. Thanks for the seal lesson, Terry, and thanks for the tip, Paul!

 

I heard we had a couple more prop seal replacements.  If my job is any indication, most of the work is in removing the old seal and in cleaning up the surfaces.  And be sure to check the case bolt torque!

 

Best,

TriQ200

~85hrs

 

 



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Re: Trip report: and Paul Fisher wins this round

Bruce Crain
 


Trip report: and Paul Fisher wins this round

quickieaircraft
 


It was terrific seeing everyone at FOD.  (and this was the biggest turnout I can remember--good work all!) 

FOD attendees will recall that I had an o-200 had an oil seep from the front case of the engine.  We were collectively suspicious of the prop oil seal.  A committee of folks, led by Terry's impressive experience, following instructions printed by Sam and myself, and armed with some supplies and tools arranged by Bruce, carefully worked the old prop seal out over a couple of hours.  I had previously been less insistent in removing this seal.

Terry walked us through cleaning up, inspecting, and reworking the relevant surfaces. We installed a new seal I had picked up the last time I considered this job and secured it using the cross-substituted Loctite 515 and ethel hexanoic acid. Spelling is from memory--apologies to Ethel if I mis-spelled her or her friend's last name. Much thanks to everyone for the hard work and thorough supervision.

At some point during this process, Paul Fisher mentioned "you know, you might check the torque on the case halve bolts. 

Well I ground ran the plane (success) and then flew it home, and there wasn't enough oil on the engine to see much of a leak.  I cleaned the residual oil off the engine and again ground ran it--still nothing really to speak of.  I got to fly the plane on a ~1800nm trip this week.  During the trip, I discovered that the engine was still seeping. :0

I retorqued the case bolts IAW Continental torque specs.

I'm always reticent to say that something aviation related is working properly lest I antagonize it.  But the front of the engine was dry for my return trip after 6 hr flight time and that made me happy. Thanks for the seal lesson, Terry, and thanks for the tip, Paul!

I heard we had a couple more prop seal replacements.  If my job is any indication, most of the work is in removing the old seal and in cleaning up the surfaces.  And be sure to check the case bolt torque!

Best,
TriQ200
~85hrs


Re: 2018picturs

Norm Parmley <norm_parm@...>
 

No pictures that I can see?

On Monday, October 1, 2018, 6:45:02 AM EDT, armand dugas ajdugas@... [Q-LIST] wrote:


 



2018picturs

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Re: FOD 18

Sam Hoskins
 

Mine was TAS. Also course measured.

Sam 

On Sat, Sep 29, 2018, 12:57 PM Kevin Sheely kjsheely1@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:
 

What are the cruise number units? MPH, TAS, KNOTS.

Kevin, Q200, dragger, 365 hours, Florida

On Friday, September 28, 2018, 10:03:12 PM EDT, JMasal@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:


 


We had a pretty good crowd of aircraft at the Enid, OK edition of
The Field of Dreams 2018. Here is some data I was able to
capture to be of general interest:
(My complaint dept is open. Beware the wire brush)
                                                                                     Age of
Pilot          Type       N#          TT    Cruz   Top   From   Acft yrs.

Dugas       Q2         68DD     1050   140    155   MA      18
Hoskins    Q200     202SH    2020   190    211    IL        32
Curcio       Q200     800ZE     540    155    unk   CA       34
Marstall    TQ200   625JM     825    160    unk    NC      21
Crain        TQ200     96BJ      990    160   165    OK      19
Imraan      TQ200   1201D     200    165   174    OK      23
French      TQ200   142LF      640    165   185     ?       17
Crouch      Q-1         14TC      950    100   115     IA      24
Thayer       LEZ        58JB      129    140k 155k   CA     10
Rod            CoZ3     399BR    881    160   206    MA     18
Fisher         RV7A     18PF      770    150   unk    IL        9

1.  J. Masal survey
2. The top speed question was how fast have you ever seen
3. Some answers were rounded, not precise




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To: Q-LIST <Q-LIST@...>
Sent: Mon, Sep 24, 2018 6:26 am
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] FOD 18

 
Also a big thanks to your hosts!
Great time was had by all, due to your work and planning.
Hats off!
Kevin


On Sep 24, 2018, at 6:23 AM, Kevin Boddicker trumanst@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 
Find report Matt!
Keep up the good work.
Kevin


On Sep 23, 2018, at 8:34 PM, Matthew Curcio mlcurcio89@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 
Hey, fantastic meeting all of you in person. Too bad I couldn’t stay longer but here is the rest of my trip report. Clouds and rain cleared quickly after leaving Enid and I made killer time into Ohio,  thanks to a tailwind. Took some family flying in q and then did a fly out lunch on Saturday with some friends. We flew to an island on Lake Erie that has a 2700ft strip with 50 foot trees on each end. I’ve been practicing short field in the q a lot (if you want to call it that) so 400ft density altitude and light fuel load actually made it piece of cake but I’m sure It’s the first time a quickie has landed there. I landed and took off in half the space as my friends lightly loaded Cherokee 6! 

Did about 20 water landings in the amphib and then Got a gorgeous impromptu balloon flight in with some friends this morning before blasting off west. Caught headwinds around Oklahoma and then my fuel stop in dalhart proved to be a bust as the self serve tank was out and the fella at the fbo had left early. I got him to come back but it killed my chance of making it home tonight.  I decided to stay in Albuquerque. I elected to land at the international airport rather than double eagle and I’m happy I did because Atlantic’s Ramp fee is probably cheaper than a taxi from and to double eagle, it’s 3 min from hotels and they give you rides to and from your hotel. Had a good flock of net jet and medivac pilots come over to talk and take pictures after I pulled in with the q and the ground controller wanted to chat about what it is, amidst directing all the airliners around. . . You gotta love it! 

It’s gonna be a longer than normal flight into work tomorrow morning but worth it for a great weekend, all made possible by the q2. 


Matthew Curcio 
419-290-3773


On Sep 23, 2018, at 18:28, Jerry Marstall  jnmarstall@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 
Thx Kevin.  Great seeing you.

-------- Original message --------
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Date: 9/23/18 6:53 PM (GMT-06:00)
Subject: [Q-LIST] FOD 18

 
All,
As Paul reported, we made it back to DVN about 1:00 PM CDT.
I got home about 4:30PM and managed to get the lawn mowed! Fun stuff.
Thanks to all that made the effort to attend. I had a blast!
Hope to do it again next year. Maybe I can fly my plane there too.
Paul is a fine chauffeur!
I learned a lot about IFR flying. Very interesting.
Safe at home.

Kevin Boddicker
TriQ 200 N7868B 465 hrs
Luana, IA.


Re: CNC wire saw cutting of XPS foam

Rob de Bie
 

Twice correct. But if you switch from hot-wire cutting to wire saw cutting (which is the subject of the thread), PVC foam would be a possibility. Just thinking out loud about the possibilities with this technique.

Rob

Jay Scheevel jay@scheevel.com [Q-LIST] schreef op 2018-09-30 00:46:

PVC is not Styrene ( wing cores are styrene). I don't think PVC can be
hot wired.
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"robdebie robdebie@xs4all.nl [Q-LIST]" <Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
That's a good one right there: other types of foam! I was still stuck
in
XPS foam mode. I will definitely look into that, PVC first. Although
I'm
afraid to ask what a good-sized slab of PVC will cost.
Rob
jay jay drhyed@yahoo.com [Q-LIST] schreef op 2018-09-29 17:35:
Ahhhhhhh!!! Geeez I should turn the volume up! I was wondering what
the noise was when it was making the cuts, I just assumed (very
wrongly) that it was something electrical kicking on the heat the
wire. I figured in a commercial application they had some high
quality
wire that could take high current. Since it’s a saw you don’t
have
to worry about fumes at all so it could open up different foam
types,
I don’t know the particulars but I know some types give off toxic
fumes. I also have to say those are very very clean cuts. I like
using
foam for projects but no matter what I use you come away covered in
the stuff if you cut/sand/shape it. I really appreciate you sharing
that and also setting me straight for another look, that’s what I
get for doing email before caffeine!
Jay
On Sep 29, 2018, at 10:23 AM, Sam Hoskins sam.hoskins@gmail.com
[Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

This is the place that makes CNC foam cores:
http://www.eurekacnc.com/
When I rebuilt my elevators I was unhappy with my hot wire job so I
ordered a set from Eureka. There were better than I could have ever
done. Highly recommended. If I was starting out again I would buy
the whole canard and wing set.
Sam
Sam
On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 5:17 PM Rob de Bie robdebie@xs4all.nl
[Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I just ran into this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISA37bSopMc
You cannot do it at home, but you can probably order it, or a
supplier could order a batch. It possibly produces more accurate
and
larger parts (10 feet / 3 meters). It can even deal with glue
joints
in the foam. Would this have potential for homebuilt aircraft?
Rob.
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Re: CNC wire saw cutting of XPS foam

Jay Scheevel
 

PVC is not Styrene ( wing cores are styrene). I don't think PVC can be hot wired.

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID


"robdebie robdebie@... [Q-LIST]" <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

That's a good one right there: other types of foam! I was still stuck in
XPS foam mode. I will definitely look into that, PVC first. Although I'm
afraid to ask what a good-sized slab of PVC will cost.

Rob

jay jay drhyed@... [Q-LIST] schreef op 2018-09-29 17:35:
> Ahhhhhhh!!! Geeez I should turn the volume up! I was wondering what
> the noise was when it was making the cuts, I just assumed (very
> wrongly) that it was something electrical kicking on the heat the
> wire. I figured in a commercial application they had some high quality
> wire that could take high current. Since it’s a saw you don’t have
> to worry about fumes at all so it could open up different foam types,
> I don’t know the particulars but I know some types give off toxic
> fumes. I also have to say those are very very clean cuts. I like using
> foam for projects but no matter what I use you come away covered in
> the stuff if you cut/sand/shape it. I really appreciate you sharing
> that and also setting me straight for another look, that’s what I
> get for doing email before caffeine!
>
> Jay
>
> On Sep 29, 2018, at 10:23 AM, Sam Hoskins sam.hoskins@...
> [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:
>
>> This is the place that makes CNC foam cores:
>> http://www.eurekacnc.com/
>>
>> When I rebuilt my elevators I was unhappy with my hot wire job so I
>> ordered a set from Eureka. There were better than I could have ever
>> done. Highly recommended. If I was starting out again I would buy
>> the whole canard and wing set.
>>
>> Sam
>>
>> Sam
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 5:17 PM Rob de Bie robdebie@...
>> [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:
>>
>>> I just ran into this video:
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISA37bSopMc
>>>
>>> You cannot do it at home, but you can probably order it, or a
>>> supplier could order a batch. It possibly produces more accurate
>>> and
>>> larger parts (10 feet / 3 meters). It can even deal with glue
>>> joints
>>> in the foam. Would this have potential for homebuilt aircraft?
>>>
>>> Rob.
>
>
>
> Links:
> ------
> [1]
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Re: CNC wire saw cutting of XPS foam

Rob de Bie
 

That's a good one right there: other types of foam! I was still stuck in XPS foam mode. I will definitely look into that, PVC first. Although I'm afraid to ask what a good-sized slab of PVC will cost.

Rob

jay jay drhyed@yahoo.com [Q-LIST] schreef op 2018-09-29 17:35:

Ahhhhhhh!!! Geeez I should turn the volume up! I was wondering what
the noise was when it was making the cuts, I just assumed (very
wrongly) that it was something electrical kicking on the heat the
wire. I figured in a commercial application they had some high quality
wire that could take high current. Since it’s a saw you don’t have
to worry about fumes at all so it could open up different foam types,
I don’t know the particulars but I know some types give off toxic
fumes. I also have to say those are very very clean cuts. I like using
foam for projects but no matter what I use you come away covered in
the stuff if you cut/sand/shape it. I really appreciate you sharing
that and also setting me straight for another look, that’s what I
get for doing email before caffeine!
Jay
On Sep 29, 2018, at 10:23 AM, Sam Hoskins sam.hoskins@gmail.com
[Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

This is the place that makes CNC foam cores:
http://www.eurekacnc.com/
When I rebuilt my elevators I was unhappy with my hot wire job so I
ordered a set from Eureka. There were better than I could have ever
done. Highly recommended. If I was starting out again I would buy
the whole canard and wing set.
Sam
Sam
On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 5:17 PM Rob de Bie robdebie@xs4all.nl
[Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I just ran into this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISA37bSopMc
You cannot do it at home, but you can probably order it, or a
supplier could order a batch. It possibly produces more accurate
and
larger parts (10 feet / 3 meters). It can even deal with glue
joints
in the foam. Would this have potential for homebuilt aircraft?
Rob.
Links:
------
[1]
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Re: FOD 18

JMasal@...
 

Solly Cholly, as I noted this was not a precise survey only general in nature. Only one
pilot specified knots.Take it or leave it, I assume the rest are mph, but I really don't care.


-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Sheely kjsheely1@... [Q-LIST]

What are the cruise number units? MPH, TAS, KNOTS.

Kevin, Q200, dragger, 365 hours, Florida

On Friday, September 28, 2018, 10:03:12 PM EDT, JMasal@... [Q-LIST] wrote:


 

We had a pretty good crowd of aircraft at the Enid, OK edition of
The Field of Dreams 2018. Here is some data I was able to
capture to be of general interest:
(My complaint dept is open. Beware the wire brush)
                                                                                     Age of
Pilot          Type       N#          TT    Cruz   Top   From   Acft yrs.

Dugas       Q2         68DD     1050   140    155   MA      18
Hoskins    Q200     202SH    2020   190    211    IL        32
Curcio       Q200     800ZE     540    155    unk   CA       34
Marstall    TQ200   625JM     825    160    unk    NC      21
Crain        TQ200     96BJ      990    160   165    OK      19
Imraan      TQ200   1201D     200    165   174    OK      23
French      TQ200   142LF      640    165   185     ?       17
Crouch      Q-1         14TC      950    100   115     IA      24
Thayer       LEZ        58JB      129    140k 155k   CA     10
Rod            CoZ3     399BR    881    160   206    MA     18
Fisher         RV7A     18PF      770    150   unk    IL        9

1.  J. Masal survey
2. The top speed question was how fast have you ever seen
3. Some answers were rounded, not precise




-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Boddicker trumanst@... [Q-LIST]
To: Q-LIST
Sent: Mon, Sep 24, 2018 6:26 am
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] FOD 18

 
Also a big thanks to your hosts!
Great time was had by all, due to your work and planning.
Hats off!
Kevin


On Sep 24, 2018, at 6:23 AM, Kevin Boddicker trumanst@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 
Find report Matt!
Keep up the good work.
Kevin


On Sep 23, 2018, at 8:34 PM, Matthew Curcio mlcurcio89@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 
Hey, fantastic meeting all of you in person. Too bad I couldn’t stay longer but here is the rest of my trip report. Clouds and rain cleared quickly after leaving Enid and I made killer time into Ohio,  thanks to a tailwind. Took some family flying in q and then did a fly out lunch on Saturday with some friends. We flew to an island on Lake Erie that has a 2700ft strip with 50 foot trees on each end. I’ve been practicing short field in the q a lot (if you want to call it that) so 400ft density altitude and light fuel load actually made it piece of cake but I’m sure It’s the first time a quickie has landed there. I landed and took off in half the space as my friends lightly loaded Cherokee 6! 

Did about 20 water landings in the amphib and then Got a gorgeous impromptu balloon flight in with some friends this morning before blasting off west. Caught headwinds around Oklahoma and then my fuel stop in dalhart proved to be a bust as the self serve tank was out and the fella at the fbo had left early. I got him to come back but it killed my chance of making it home tonight.  I decided to stay in Albuquerque. I elected to land at the international airport rather than double eagle and I’m happy I did because Atlantic’s Ramp fee is probably cheaper than a taxi from and to double eagle, it’s 3 min from hotels and they give you rides to and from your hotel. Had a good flock of net jet and medivac pilots come over to talk and take pictures after I pulled in with the q and the ground controller wanted to chat about what it is, amidst directing all the airliners around. . . You gotta love it! 

It’s gonna be a longer than normal flight into work tomorrow morning but worth it for a great weekend, all made possible by the q2. 



Matthew Curcio 
419-290-3773


On Sep 23, 2018, at 18:28, Jerry Marstall  jnmarstall@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 
Thx Kevin.  Great seeing you.

-------- Original message --------
From: "Kevin Boddicker trumanst@... [Q-LIST]" <Q-LIST@...>
Date: 9/23/18 6:53 PM (GMT-06:00)
Subject: [Q-LIST] FOD 18

 
All,
As Paul reported, we made it back to DVN about 1:00 PM CDT.
I got home about 4:30PM and managed to get the lawn mowed! Fun stuff.
Thanks to all that made the effort to attend. I had a blast!
Hope to do it again next year. Maybe I can fly my plane there too.
Paul is a fine chauffeur!
I learned a lot about IFR flying. Very interesting.
Safe at home.

Kevin Boddicker
TriQ 200 N7868B 465 hrs
Luana, IA.


Re: FOD 18

Kevin Sheeley
 

What are the cruise number units? MPH, TAS, KNOTS.

Kevin, Q200, dragger, 365 hours, Florida

On Friday, September 28, 2018, 10:03:12 PM EDT, JMasal@... [Q-LIST] wrote:


 


We had a pretty good crowd of aircraft at the Enid, OK edition of
The Field of Dreams 2018. Here is some data I was able to
capture to be of general interest:
(My complaint dept is open. Beware the wire brush)
                                                                                     Age of
Pilot          Type       N#          TT    Cruz   Top   From   Acft yrs.

Dugas       Q2         68DD     1050   140    155   MA      18
Hoskins    Q200     202SH    2020   190    211    IL        32
Curcio       Q200     800ZE     540    155    unk   CA       34
Marstall    TQ200   625JM     825    160    unk    NC      21
Crain        TQ200     96BJ      990    160   165    OK      19
Imraan      TQ200   1201D     200    165   174    OK      23
French      TQ200   142LF      640    165   185     ?       17
Crouch      Q-1         14TC      950    100   115     IA      24
Thayer       LEZ        58JB      129    140k 155k   CA     10
Rod            CoZ3     399BR    881    160   206    MA     18
Fisher         RV7A     18PF      770    150   unk    IL        9

1.  J. Masal survey
2. The top speed question was how fast have you ever seen
3. Some answers were rounded, not precise




-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Boddicker trumanst@... [Q-LIST]
To: Q-LIST
Sent: Mon, Sep 24, 2018 6:26 am
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] FOD 18

 
Also a big thanks to your hosts!
Great time was had by all, due to your work and planning.
Hats off!
Kevin


On Sep 24, 2018, at 6:23 AM, Kevin Boddicker trumanst@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 
Find report Matt!
Keep up the good work.
Kevin


On Sep 23, 2018, at 8:34 PM, Matthew Curcio mlcurcio89@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 
Hey, fantastic meeting all of you in person. Too bad I couldn’t stay longer but here is the rest of my trip report. Clouds and rain cleared quickly after leaving Enid and I made killer time into Ohio,  thanks to a tailwind. Took some family flying in q and then did a fly out lunch on Saturday with some friends. We flew to an island on Lake Erie that has a 2700ft strip with 50 foot trees on each end. I’ve been practicing short field in the q a lot (if you want to call it that) so 400ft density altitude and light fuel load actually made it piece of cake but I’m sure It’s the first time a quickie has landed there. I landed and took off in half the space as my friends lightly loaded Cherokee 6! 

Did about 20 water landings in the amphib and then Got a gorgeous impromptu balloon flight in with some friends this morning before blasting off west. Caught headwinds around Oklahoma and then my fuel stop in dalhart proved to be a bust as the self serve tank was out and the fella at the fbo had left early. I got him to come back but it killed my chance of making it home tonight.  I decided to stay in Albuquerque. I elected to land at the international airport rather than double eagle and I’m happy I did because Atlantic’s Ramp fee is probably cheaper than a taxi from and to double eagle, it’s 3 min from hotels and they give you rides to and from your hotel. Had a good flock of net jet and medivac pilots come over to talk and take pictures after I pulled in with the q and the ground controller wanted to chat about what it is, amidst directing all the airliners around. . . You gotta love it! 

It’s gonna be a longer than normal flight into work tomorrow morning but worth it for a great weekend, all made possible by the q2. 



Matthew Curcio 
419-290-3773


On Sep 23, 2018, at 18:28, Jerry Marstall  jnmarstall@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 
Thx Kevin.  Great seeing you.

-------- Original message --------
From: "Kevin Boddicker trumanst@... [Q-LIST]" <Q-LIST@...>
Date: 9/23/18 6:53 PM (GMT-06:00)
Subject: [Q-LIST] FOD 18

 
All,
As Paul reported, we made it back to DVN about 1:00 PM CDT.
I got home about 4:30PM and managed to get the lawn mowed! Fun stuff.
Thanks to all that made the effort to attend. I had a blast!
Hope to do it again next year. Maybe I can fly my plane there too.
Paul is a fine chauffeur!
I learned a lot about IFR flying. Very interesting.
Safe at home.

Kevin Boddicker
TriQ 200 N7868B 465 hrs
Luana, IA.


Re: CNC wire saw cutting of XPS foam

jay jay <drhyed@...>
 

Ahhhhhhh!!! Geeez I should turn the volume up! I was wondering what the noise was when it was making the cuts, I just assumed (very wrongly) that it was something electrical kicking on the heat the wire. I figured in a commercial application they had some high quality wire that could take high current. Since it’s a saw you don’t have to worry about fumes at all so it could open up different foam types, I don’t know the particulars but I know some types give off toxic fumes. I also have to say those are very very clean cuts. I like using foam for projects but no matter what I use you come away covered in the stuff if you cut/sand/shape it. I really appreciate you sharing that and also setting me straight for another look, that’s what I get for doing email before caffeine!

Jay 

On Sep 29, 2018, at 10:23 AM, Sam Hoskins sam.hoskins@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

This is the place that makes CNC foam cores: http://www.eurekacnc.com/

When I rebuilt my elevators I was unhappy with my hot wire job so I ordered a set from Eureka. There were better than I could have ever done. Highly recommended. If I was starting out again I would buy the whole canard and wing set.

Sam


Sam


On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 5:17 PM Rob de Bie robdebie@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:
 

I just ran into this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISA37bSopMc

You cannot do it at home, but you can probably order it, or a
supplier could order a batch. It possibly produces more accurate and
larger parts (10 feet / 3 meters). It can even deal with glue joints
in the foam. Would this have potential for homebuilt aircraft?

Rob.


Re: CNC wire saw cutting of XPS foam

Jay Scheevel
 

Please don't use pour in expanding foam for wings or canards. It doesn't have equivalent shear strength as the original urethane billets. Need to use the equivalent extruded styrene foam. Aircraft Spruce sells this.

Cheers,
Jay N8WQ

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID


"jay jay drhyed@... [Q-LIST]" <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 


He makes cnc’d foam wing cores, he lists the Q-200 but when I contacted him last year he said he hadn’t cut a set in several years and could possibly but it wasn’t a current offering. Aside from wings/canards I think a cnc router would be of more use for mold making, the price of hand held 3D scanners is coming down or you can also rent them, scan your project area, make the mold from a foam “billet” and your on your way. Of course nothing wrong with the good old expanding foam either and way cheaper lol. 

Jay

On Sep 28, 2018, at 6:16 PM, Rob de Bie robdebie@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

I just ran into this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISA37bSopMc

You cannot do it at home, but you can probably order it, or a
supplier could order a batch. It possibly produces more accurate and
larger parts (10 feet / 3 meters). It can even deal with glue joints
in the foam. Would this have potential for homebuilt aircraft?

Rob.


Re: CNC wire saw cutting of XPS foam

Sam Hoskins
 

Oops!  I see the Quickie is no longer supported.  I wonder why.

Sam

On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 9:23 AM Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@...> wrote:
This is the place that makes CNC foam cores: http://www.eurekacnc.com/

When I rebuilt my elevators I was unhappy with my hot wire job so I ordered a set from Eureka. There were better than I could have ever done. Highly recommended. If I was starting out again I would buy the whole canard and wing set.

Sam


Sam


On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 5:17 PM Rob de Bie robdebie@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:
 

I just ran into this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISA37bSopMc

You cannot do it at home, but you can probably order it, or a
supplier could order a batch. It possibly produces more accurate and
larger parts (10 feet / 3 meters). It can even deal with glue joints
in the foam. Would this have potential for homebuilt aircraft?

Rob.


Re: CNC wire saw cutting of XPS foam

Sam Hoskins
 

This is the place that makes CNC foam cores: http://www.eurekacnc.com/

When I rebuilt my elevators I was unhappy with my hot wire job so I ordered a set from Eureka. There were better than I could have ever done. Highly recommended. If I was starting out again I would buy the whole canard and wing set.

Sam


Sam


On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 5:17 PM Rob de Bie robdebie@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:
 

I just ran into this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISA37bSopMc

You cannot do it at home, but you can probably order it, or a
supplier could order a batch. It possibly produces more accurate and
larger parts (10 feet / 3 meters). It can even deal with glue joints
in the foam. Would this have potential for homebuilt aircraft?

Rob.


Re: CNC wire saw cutting of XPS foam

Rob de Bie
 

I probably wasn't clear on what I thought was new
/ innovative: instead of a hot wire they use a
1.0 or 1.5 mm diameter wire saw. Maybe that gives
a better quality? Plus the possibility to cut through glue joints in the foam.

Rob

At 14:59 29 09 2018, you wrote:


<http://www.eurekacnc.com/>http://www.eurekacnc.com/

He makes cnc’d foam wing cores, he lists the
Q-200 but when I contacted him last year he said
he hadn’t cut a set in several years and could
possibly but it wasn’t a current offering.
Aside from wings/canards I think a cnc router
would be of more use for mold making, the price
of hand held 3D scanners is coming down or you
can also rent them, scan your project area, make
the mold from a foam “billet� and your on
your way. Of course nothing wrong with the good
old expanding foam either and way cheaper lol.

Jay

On Sep 28, 2018, at 6:16 PM, Rob de Bie
<mailto:robdebie@xs4all.nl>robdebie@xs4all.nl
[Q-LIST] <<mailto:Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com>Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com> wrote:



I just ran into this video:

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISA37bSopMc>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISA37bSopMc

You cannot do it at home, but you can probably order it, or a
supplier could order a batch. It possibly produces more accurate and
larger parts (10 feet / 3 meters). It can even deal with glue joints
in the foam. Would this have potential for homebuilt aircraft?

Rob.

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