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Re: CNC wire saw cutting of XPS foam

jay jay <drhyed@...>
 

Ahhhhhhh!!! Geeez I should turn the volume up! I was wondering what the noise was when it was making the cuts, I just assumed (very wrongly) that it was something electrical kicking on the heat the wire. I figured in a commercial application they had some high quality wire that could take high current. Since it’s a saw you don’t have to worry about fumes at all so it could open up different foam types, I don’t know the particulars but I know some types give off toxic fumes. I also have to say those are very very clean cuts. I like using foam for projects but no matter what I use you come away covered in the stuff if you cut/sand/shape it. I really appreciate you sharing that and also setting me straight for another look, that’s what I get for doing email before caffeine!

Jay 

On Sep 29, 2018, at 10:23 AM, Sam Hoskins sam.hoskins@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

This is the place that makes CNC foam cores: http://www.eurekacnc.com/

When I rebuilt my elevators I was unhappy with my hot wire job so I ordered a set from Eureka. There were better than I could have ever done. Highly recommended. If I was starting out again I would buy the whole canard and wing set.

Sam


Sam


On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 5:17 PM Rob de Bie robdebie@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:
 

I just ran into this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISA37bSopMc

You cannot do it at home, but you can probably order it, or a
supplier could order a batch. It possibly produces more accurate and
larger parts (10 feet / 3 meters). It can even deal with glue joints
in the foam. Would this have potential for homebuilt aircraft?

Rob.


Re: CNC wire saw cutting of XPS foam

Jay Scheevel
 

Please don't use pour in expanding foam for wings or canards. It doesn't have equivalent shear strength as the original urethane billets. Need to use the equivalent extruded styrene foam. Aircraft Spruce sells this.

Cheers,
Jay N8WQ

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID


"jay jay drhyed@... [Q-LIST]" <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 


He makes cnc’d foam wing cores, he lists the Q-200 but when I contacted him last year he said he hadn’t cut a set in several years and could possibly but it wasn’t a current offering. Aside from wings/canards I think a cnc router would be of more use for mold making, the price of hand held 3D scanners is coming down or you can also rent them, scan your project area, make the mold from a foam “billet” and your on your way. Of course nothing wrong with the good old expanding foam either and way cheaper lol. 

Jay

On Sep 28, 2018, at 6:16 PM, Rob de Bie robdebie@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

I just ran into this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISA37bSopMc

You cannot do it at home, but you can probably order it, or a
supplier could order a batch. It possibly produces more accurate and
larger parts (10 feet / 3 meters). It can even deal with glue joints
in the foam. Would this have potential for homebuilt aircraft?

Rob.


Re: CNC wire saw cutting of XPS foam

Sam Hoskins
 

Oops!  I see the Quickie is no longer supported.  I wonder why.

Sam

On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 9:23 AM Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@...> wrote:
This is the place that makes CNC foam cores: http://www.eurekacnc.com/

When I rebuilt my elevators I was unhappy with my hot wire job so I ordered a set from Eureka. There were better than I could have ever done. Highly recommended. If I was starting out again I would buy the whole canard and wing set.

Sam


Sam


On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 5:17 PM Rob de Bie robdebie@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:
 

I just ran into this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISA37bSopMc

You cannot do it at home, but you can probably order it, or a
supplier could order a batch. It possibly produces more accurate and
larger parts (10 feet / 3 meters). It can even deal with glue joints
in the foam. Would this have potential for homebuilt aircraft?

Rob.


Re: CNC wire saw cutting of XPS foam

Sam Hoskins
 

This is the place that makes CNC foam cores: http://www.eurekacnc.com/

When I rebuilt my elevators I was unhappy with my hot wire job so I ordered a set from Eureka. There were better than I could have ever done. Highly recommended. If I was starting out again I would buy the whole canard and wing set.

Sam


Sam


On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 5:17 PM Rob de Bie robdebie@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:
 

I just ran into this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISA37bSopMc

You cannot do it at home, but you can probably order it, or a
supplier could order a batch. It possibly produces more accurate and
larger parts (10 feet / 3 meters). It can even deal with glue joints
in the foam. Would this have potential for homebuilt aircraft?

Rob.


Re: CNC wire saw cutting of XPS foam

Rob de Bie
 

I probably wasn't clear on what I thought was new
/ innovative: instead of a hot wire they use a
1.0 or 1.5 mm diameter wire saw. Maybe that gives
a better quality? Plus the possibility to cut through glue joints in the foam.

Rob

At 14:59 29 09 2018, you wrote:


<http://www.eurekacnc.com/>http://www.eurekacnc.com/

He makes cnc’d foam wing cores, he lists the
Q-200 but when I contacted him last year he said
he hadn’t cut a set in several years and could
possibly but it wasn’t a current offering.
Aside from wings/canards I think a cnc router
would be of more use for mold making, the price
of hand held 3D scanners is coming down or you
can also rent them, scan your project area, make
the mold from a foam “billet� and your on
your way. Of course nothing wrong with the good
old expanding foam either and way cheaper lol.

Jay

On Sep 28, 2018, at 6:16 PM, Rob de Bie
<mailto:robdebie@...>robdebie@...
[Q-LIST] <<mailto:Q-LIST@...>Q-LIST@...> wrote:



I just ran into this video:

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISA37bSopMc>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISA37bSopMc

You cannot do it at home, but you can probably order it, or a
supplier could order a batch. It possibly produces more accurate and
larger parts (10 feet / 3 meters). It can even deal with glue joints
in the foam. Would this have potential for homebuilt aircraft?

Rob.


Re: CNC wire saw cutting of XPS foam

jay jay <drhyed@...>
 


He makes cnc’d foam wing cores, he lists the Q-200 but when I contacted him last year he said he hadn’t cut a set in several years and could possibly but it wasn’t a current offering. Aside from wings/canards I think a cnc router would be of more use for mold making, the price of hand held 3D scanners is coming down or you can also rent them, scan your project area, make the mold from a foam “billet” and your on your way. Of course nothing wrong with the good old expanding foam either and way cheaper lol. 

Jay

On Sep 28, 2018, at 6:16 PM, Rob de Bie robdebie@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

I just ran into this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISA37bSopMc

You cannot do it at home, but you can probably order it, or a
supplier could order a batch. It possibly produces more accurate and
larger parts (10 feet / 3 meters). It can even deal with glue joints
in the foam. Would this have potential for homebuilt aircraft?

Rob.


Re: Back

JMasal@...
 

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Re: FOD 18

JMasal@...
 


We had a pretty good crowd of aircraft at the Enid, OK edition of
The Field of Dreams 2018. Here is some data I was able to
capture to be of general interest:
(My complaint dept is open. Beware the wire brush)
                                                                                     Age of
Pilot          Type       N#          TT    Cruz   Top   From   Acft yrs.

Dugas       Q2         68DD     1050   140    155   MA      18
Hoskins    Q200     202SH    2020   190    211    IL        32
Curcio       Q200     800ZE     540    155    unk   CA       34
Marstall    TQ200   625JM     825    160    unk    NC      21
Crain        TQ200     96BJ      990    160   165    OK      19
Imraan      TQ200   1201D     200    165   174    OK      23
French      TQ200   142LF      640    165   185     ?       17
Crouch      Q-1         14TC      950    100   115     IA      24
Thayer       LEZ        58JB      129    140k 155k   CA     10
Rod            CoZ3     399BR    881    160   206    MA     18
Fisher         RV7A     18PF      770    150   unk    IL        9

1.  J. Masal survey
2. The top speed question was how fast have you ever seen
3. Some answers were rounded, not precise




-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Boddicker trumanst@... [Q-LIST]
To: Q-LIST
Sent: Mon, Sep 24, 2018 6:26 am
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] FOD 18

 
Also a big thanks to your hosts!
Great time was had by all, due to your work and planning.
Hats off!
Kevin


On Sep 24, 2018, at 6:23 AM, Kevin Boddicker trumanst@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 
Find report Matt!
Keep up the good work.
Kevin


On Sep 23, 2018, at 8:34 PM, Matthew Curcio mlcurcio89@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 
Hey, fantastic meeting all of you in person. Too bad I couldn’t stay longer but here is the rest of my trip report. Clouds and rain cleared quickly after leaving Enid and I made killer time into Ohio,  thanks to a tailwind. Took some family flying in q and then did a fly out lunch on Saturday with some friends. We flew to an island on Lake Erie that has a 2700ft strip with 50 foot trees on each end. I’ve been practicing short field in the q a lot (if you want to call it that) so 400ft density altitude and light fuel load actually made it piece of cake but I’m sure It’s the first time a quickie has landed there. I landed and took off in half the space as my friends lightly loaded Cherokee 6! 

Did about 20 water landings in the amphib and then Got a gorgeous impromptu balloon flight in with some friends this morning before blasting off west. Caught headwinds around Oklahoma and then my fuel stop in dalhart proved to be a bust as the self serve tank was out and the fella at the fbo had left early. I got him to come back but it killed my chance of making it home tonight.  I decided to stay in Albuquerque. I elected to land at the international airport rather than double eagle and I’m happy I did because Atlantic’s Ramp fee is probably cheaper than a taxi from and to double eagle, it’s 3 min from hotels and they give you rides to and from your hotel. Had a good flock of net jet and medivac pilots come over to talk and take pictures after I pulled in with the q and the ground controller wanted to chat about what it is, amidst directing all the airliners around. . . You gotta love it! 

It’s gonna be a longer than normal flight into work tomorrow morning but worth it for a great weekend, all made possible by the q2. 



Matthew Curcio 
419-290-3773


On Sep 23, 2018, at 18:28, Jerry Marstall  jnmarstall@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 
Thx Kevin.  Great seeing you.

-------- Original message --------
From: "Kevin Boddicker trumanst@... [Q-LIST]" <Q-LIST@...>
Date: 9/23/18 6:53 PM (GMT-06:00)
Subject: [Q-LIST] FOD 18

 
All,
As Paul reported, we made it back to DVN about 1:00 PM CDT.
I got home about 4:30PM and managed to get the lawn mowed! Fun stuff.
Thanks to all that made the effort to attend. I had a blast!
Hope to do it again next year. Maybe I can fly my plane there too.
Paul is a fine chauffeur!
I learned a lot about IFR flying. Very interesting.
Safe at home.

Kevin Boddicker
TriQ 200 N7868B 465 hrs
Luana, IA.


Re: Back in Orange

Jerry Marstall
 

Glad you are safely back.  Good to see you and Rod. See ya next year.   Jerry 


On Fri, Sep 28, 2018, 6:26 PM Dave Dugas davedq2@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:
 

Hi everyone

Got back to KORE yesterday, Thursday, at 1:40 PM EDT, after leaving Franklin PA at around 10:00 AM Thursday morning.  I made a quick fuel stop in Sidney NY along the way.  Rod flew non-stop from Hornell NY, and arrived safely at Turners Falls airport about 1 hour ahead of me.  We had radio contact for some of the last leg.  The Revmaster ran smooth, using only a half quart of oil for the entire 22.5 hour round trip.  After activating my Tru-trak auto pilot I enjoyed smooth,  comfortable conditions, cruising along at 5,500 ft., under a shaded thin layer of clouds at 26,000 ft. above.  Even had a little tail wind.

Thanks again Bruce and Joanne, it was a great time getting together, and I’m looking forward to next year. Hope to see everyone next year, along with a couple more Qs added to the flock.

 

Dave D    N68DD

 


Back in Orange

Dave Dugas
 

Hi everyone

Got back to KORE yesterday, Thursday, at 1:40 PM EDT, after leaving Franklin PA at around 10:00 AM Thursday morning.  I made a quick fuel stop in Sidney NY along the way.  Rod flew non-stop from Hornell NY, and arrived safely at Turners Falls airport about 1 hour ahead of me.  We had radio contact for some of the last leg.  The Revmaster ran smooth, using only a half quart of oil for the entire 22.5 hour round trip.  After activating my Tru-trak auto pilot I enjoyed smooth,  comfortable conditions, cruising along at 5,500 ft., under a shaded thin layer of clouds at 26,000 ft. above.  Even had a little tail wind.

Thanks again Bruce and Joanne, it was a great time getting together, and I’m looking forward to next year. Hope to see everyone next year, along with a couple more Qs added to the flock.

 

Dave D    N68DD

 


CNC wire saw cutting of XPS foam

Rob de Bie
 

I just ran into this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISA37bSopMc

You cannot do it at home, but you can probably order it, or a supplier could order a batch. It possibly produces more accurate and larger parts (10 feet / 3 meters). It can even deal with glue joints in the foam. Would this have potential for homebuilt aircraft?

Rob.


Re: Left the Q in Memphis.

Jay Scheevel
 

I am sure the big brothers will be happy to take care of your little one while you are gone. Keep us posted when you get back to pick her up. Thanks for making the trip Jerry. Was really good to see you again, get caught up and to fly with you in your beautiful Q.

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

From: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2018 2:22 PM
To: q-list@...
Subject: [Q-LIST] Left the Q in Memphis.

 

 

Stopped short yesterday -low clouds .

Mucho agua today.  Have to get back - driving. Plane will be in Memphis for two weeks.  

She is in good company -  in corporate hangar between king Air and Citation.  She seemed to be enjoying herself when I left this morning.   On the road again,  Jerry 


Re: FOD - Alan Home Safe!

Jim Patillo
 

Hey Alan,

I saw you landing back in KLVK yesterday. Welcome home. I’am really happy for you making the trip back to Okieville without any mechanicals. Sounds like you had a great trip 👍. To bad it couldn’t have been in your Q.

Regards,
Jim
N46JP - Q200


Re: A Bit Closer

Sam Hoskins
 

I can't believe Rodney abandoned you.


On Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 6:01 PM Dave Dugas davedq2@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:
 

I alighted at Venango Rgnl Airport in Franklin, PA at the trailing edge of a nasty weather system. Hopefully it will be gone by tomorrow. Rod and I are separated due to my being on flight following while he made a run to the north. He's not much further ahead, spending the evening in Hornell, NY. Should be back in the barn sometime tomorrow. Always an adventure. 
Revmaster power oh yea!!!
Dave D




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Re: A Bit Closer

Kevin Boddicker
 

Lem and Efis are split apart!
Better call Effie!

Safe trip home!


On Sep 26, 2018, at 5:53 PM, Dave Dugas davedq2@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

I alighted at Venango Rgnl Airport in Franklin, PA at the trailing edge of a nasty weather system. Hopefully it will be gone by tomorrow. Rod and I are separated due to my being on flight following while he made a run to the north. He's not much further ahead, spending the evening in Hornell, NY. Should be back in the barn sometime tomorrow. Always an adventure. 
Revmaster power oh yea!!!
Dave D




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Re: Left the Q in Memphis.

Kevin Boddicker
 

You're a yeoman!
Good to see you!


On Sep 26, 2018, at 3:21 PM, Jerry Marstall jnmarstall@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

Stopped short yesterday -low clouds .

Mucho agua today.  Have to get back - driving. Plane will be in Memphis for two weeks.  
She is in good company -  in corporate hangar between king Air and Citation.  She seemed to be enjoying herself when I left this morning.   On the road again,  Jerry 


Re: Left the Q in Memphis.

Bruce Crain
 


Re: FOD - Alan Home Safe!

Kevin Boddicker
 

Congrats Alan!
I hope you feel a great sense of accomplishment.
You should. 
No mods, changes, or the like! Just fly!!!!
Proud for you.
Kevin


On Sep 25, 2018, at 8:40 PM, millenniumflier@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

Hey Everybody,

Alan checking in, just a few hours ago, I put the LongEZ back in my hangar at Livermore, after an amazing trip to Enid and back! Hats off to Bruce and “Honey Lamb” for hosting such an amazing event for all of us, with old friends we haven’t seen for years, and the best part is that I actually flew my plane to be with you all, so it was a banner event.  I had told Terry that for the first time in 22 years, it was kinda strange with me now needing a ride to the hotel and back, since I actually flew myself in after taking commercial all these years and finally not needing a rental car!  😊

My return home was welcomingly uneventful, when compared with my trip out to Enid… thanks again to Matthew Curcio for letting me follow him from Tehachapi in California out to Enid through what the FAA told me was the remnants of Tropical Depression 19, which is what Jerry is now dealing with farther East; it was an extremely extensive  weather formation.  Sunday morning, Jon Finley offered to fly with me westward, thanks again, Jon!  We stopped at Tucumcari, where I overnighted, while Jon then continued on his way  back home.  Marc Zeitlin had told me about this really cool hotel in Tucumcari, so I stayed there, an amazing  60s vintage motel right on Route 66, he told me that they will pick you up at the airport, and they sure did, and in a Model A, no kidding!  That, along with the hotel itself, was a blast from the past. Monday morning real early, they brought me back to the airport in a 51 Pontiac, so definitely a lot of history at that place. Took off for Laughlin again, which I had planned for, knowing that I would need a break, and landed there, with  clear skies, though  with a high cloud deck around Albuquerque and bumpy, but nothing like that wall of rainthat had forced me to turn back last week.  I had purposely wanted to break it up into three legs for my first real long cross-country, and it worked out.  One reason being to add a cushion in case of weather…. Good thing I did that out-bound.  I learned a lot about the plane, and about myself as a pilot, and both were just what the doctor ordered, for more long flights in the future.

Sorry for the delay in getting this sent out, but I wanted to make sure that I was actually home safe and sound before sending a note.  Again, all my thanks to Bruce and Honey Lamb for being the gracious and superlative hosts that they were, and equally to everyone who was able to make it…. This one weekend each year pegs the “fun meter” for me with humor, advice shared, and inspiration for moving forward with our planes.  It wouldn't be a fly-in without all of us attending. The Lord is good!

Still basking in it all…

Fly safely, everybody, and sure hope to see you all again next year, if not before!

All the very best,

Alan

 


A Bit Closer

Dave Dugas
 

I alighted at Venango Rgnl Airport in Franklin, PA at the trailing edge of a nasty weather system. Hopefully it will be gone by tomorrow. Rod and I are separated due to my being on flight following while he made a run to the north. He's not much further ahead, spending the evening in Hornell, NY. Should be back in the barn sometime tomorrow. Always an adventure. 
Revmaster power oh yea!!!
Dave D




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Left the Q in Memphis.

Jerry Marstall <jnmarstall@...>
 

Stopped short yesterday -low clouds .
Mucho agua today.  Have to get back - driving. Plane will be in Memphis for two weeks.  
She is in good company -  in corporate hangar between king Air and Citation.  She seemed to be enjoying herself when I left this morning.   On the road again,  Jerry 

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