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Re: Q200 new project-what to do for the fuselage!!!!!

Norm Parmley <norm_parm@...>
 

Craig,
I have a Q200 project I got from Richard. I've developed an allergy to epoxy, and will have too let someone do the rebuild, or have too cover myself from head too toe. I'm still not decided on letting it go. However, if you want to speak about it give me a call anytime, and we can discuss it.


Regards,
Norman Parmley
(252)671-1567

On Wednesday, February 14, 2018, 7:00:30 PM EST, craig martin cmartin0721@... [Q-LIST] wrote:


 

Yes i am interested. I do want to check with richard though, no use re - inventing the wheel if he already has molds. Thanks


Craig


On Feb 14, 2018, at 5:20 PM, brianmh13@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

A while ago I talked to a guy in Oregon that had a Q-2 partially completed that he was looking to sell. I forget how much he was asking and I don't know if I can find his info but if you're interested let me know. I'd be down to see if I can purchase the kit and you could help me pay for it in exchange for allowing you to take molds. I'd come pick it up in a year from you're location. Alternatively Richard with Fast Little Airplanes may have a Q-2 that he'd sell he may sell you just a fuselage. I think he also has molds and could fabricate a new fuselage kit for you. 


Re: Q200 new project-what to do for the fuselage!!!!!

craig martin <cmartin0721@...>
 

Yes i am interested. I do want to check with richard though, no use re - inventing the wheel if he already has molds. Thanks

Craig


On Feb 14, 2018, at 5:20 PM, brianmh13@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

A while ago I talked to a guy in Oregon that had a Q-2 partially completed that he was looking to sell. I forget how much he was asking and I don't know if I can find his info but if you're interested let me know. I'd be down to see if I can purchase the kit and you could help me pay for it in exchange for allowing you to take molds. I'd come pick it up in a year from you're location. Alternatively Richard with Fast Little Airplanes may have a Q-2 that he'd sell he may sell you just a fuselage. I think he also has molds and could fabricate a new fuselage kit for you. 


More Q accident analysis

Jay Scheevel
 

Attached is the next instalment of my “slow drip” accident analysis fo the U.S. based Q-fleet.

 

Cheers,

Jay Scheevel, Tri-Q, still building


Re: Q200 new project-what to do for the fuselage!!!!!

C R
 

https://fastlittleairplanes.com allegedly sells kits though the website leaves something to be desired. Likely they would be willing to sell you any piece you need if they are actually making them.

Your best bet is to keep your eyes peeled for a q200 project or a Dragonfly, they both turn up periodically. I don't know much about the latter but Wikipedia says Dragonflies were sold as kits and plans.

There are Quickies to be had if you look hard enough. Do you want to spend all your time building one, or flying one?


Re: Q200 new project-what to do for the fuselage!!!!!

Brian Hutchinson
 

A while ago I talked to a guy in Oregon that had a Q-2 partially completed that he was looking to sell. I forget how much he was asking and I don't know if I can find his info but if you're interested let me know. I'd be down to see if I can purchase the kit and you could help me pay for it in exchange for allowing you to take molds. I'd come pick it up in a year from you're location. Alternatively Richard with Fast Little Airplanes may have a Q-2 that he'd sell he may sell you just a fuselage. I think he also has molds and could fabricate a new fuselage kit for you. 


Re: Q200 new project-what to do for the fuselage!!!!!

cmartin0721@...
 

Sorry for all the grammitical errors, i am using siri, and she is having a blonde moment apparently ;)


Q200 new project-what to do for the fuselage!!!!!

cmartin0721@...
 

Hello

Well i am thourghly bummed out eight now. After so much good input from this list, i decided to switch over to a q200 from my original q1 project, only to doscover that the q2/200 fuselages were provided pre molded!!!! #%!!#¥£€## :(

I saw some web info on a guy who made his own from station supports and stringers, but having done that before, i know it is very difficult to get a fair shape, and the build ends up being heavy, so that approach os out.

I discoverd that the guys that made the original molds for qac are in the houston area, so i am going to head down this week and see if thay have any lofting lines left over or other indo i can glean. I also need ply layup schedules if available.

The alternative is to find an existing fuselage that is still in kit form and pull molds from that. This is preferred, but not probable. I would be willing to go where needed ( within the USA) to do this, so if any of you guys have a raw fuselage that you would let me mold from, let me know.

What is probably foing ro happen is me building a new plug and pulling the molds from that. I think that would give betterresults and would allow for bagging the fuse halves.

Comments? Ideas?

I have built plugs and molds before, not really that difficult to do, just messy and will add a couple hundred hours to the project


Craig


Re: Aileron Rigging Template

Steve S
 

I'm also in the same boat. I'd like the template also. Thanks Steve


Re: Aileron Rigging Template

Richard Thomson
 


Re: New member just got a tri q200

Steve S
 

I go to my brothers house in South Carolina often so a stop in Georgia isn't a big deal.


Re: New member just got a tri q200

Steve S
 

I tig stainless all day at work . It's actually not that hard just gotta have the welder setup right. Swapping motors isn't hard but it's not something I want to do with a flying airplane.


Re: Accident summary interim report

Brian Hutchinson
 

Thanks for the report sir. I think such provides direction for further consideration. Of note was the fact that all propeller failures were of craft powered with an O-200. I think that this statistic could be at least in part less related to the engine type itself and more related to the number of planes utilizing the engine. However such statistic is indicative of high power output being a factor in these crashes. There are many variables in each incident. With the propeller failures for example, were the propellers being used beyond an acceptable life? Had these propellers been flown often in conditions that caused degradation? The answers may then place responsibility on Aircraft owner/ Pilot judgement. Ultimately isn't Owner/Builder/Pilot Proficiency and Judgement the major factor in safety particularly in Homebuilt Aircraft? 


Re: New member just got a tri q200

Brian Hutchinson
 

I just saw Sam Hoskins post regarding the Literature. There you go! 


Re: New member just got a tri q200

Brian Hutchinson
 

There has got to be at least several people here that would be willing to make you quality copies of they're Q-2 literature. Maybe offer to shoot them a little $ for they're time. I vaguely remember reading the Q-2 had minimal or not great quality instructions but I may be wrong on that. You should give Richard, of Fast Little Airplanes a call. I imagine you're in Florida too and Fast Little Airplanes is in Georgia now. If I was that close I would go to his shop and see what he's got going on. I've spoken with Richard asking Dragonfly and Q-2 questions. He seemed happy help. 


Re: New member just got a tri q200

Brian Hutchinson
 

Yeah sweet. TIG is the only welding I havnt had much experience with. A little aluminum is all. I want to practice TIG really bad and learn Titanium, Stainless, and Aluminum to proficiency. If you're very confident in using the Yamaha right off great. I was thinking the biggest trouble with starting with one engine and swapping to another would be once you started flying the excruciating downtime you would have to endure while the swap was occurring! 


Re: New Member New Q1 Build first questions

Matthew Curcio
 

I just ran into Elliot last weekend at the fuel pump in Mojave and my boss was his partner on the q1 project they did. I can prly get contact info.

Matthew Curcio
419-290-3773


On Feb 13, 2018, at 1:05 PM, lcigars@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

Look for Elliot Seguin from Mojave CA.
He got a huge record flight testing a beefy Q1.
Maybe, he will be willing to help you with your new design.
Good luck and have fun!!


Re: Accident summary interim report

Jay Scheevel
 

The axis labels are courtesy of Mr. Bill Gates. I can't change them in Excel, but basically they are 10 hour bins increasing to the right. I always thought you were off the charts, Paul!

Cheers,
Jay


Re: New member just got a tri q200

Mike Dwyer
 

32 years ago I bolted a 0-200A onto the front figuring that when a wizz bang awesome engine came around I'd pull it off and switch.  I'm still waiting!
Mike N3QP Q200


On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 3:33 PM, brianmh13@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:
 

Hi Steve good luck with the project. You're Q2-Tri was the one in Lakeland huh? Very cool you're considering alternative power plants which is what I'm interested in. However I agree that you may be better off using a proven power plant to start with. Learn to fly the plane, get used to its character then swap to the Yamaha. Im looking into using alternative engines primarily out of necessity as I want to build a multi engine craft. Multi engine provides a performance gain and redundancy for more safety on cross country and over water flight. I wouldn't be able to fit two certified aircraft engines in a two seater easily while staying within weight and balance. I'm making payments on a Dragonfly Kit with a VW. Similar to the Q planes. Anyway I'll be eager to see how you're project goes. I'm no expert but I'm happy to consider questions you'll have. Richard at fastlittleairplanes.com is a good resource of info on composites and quickies and dflys in particular.



Re: New Member New Q1 Build first questions

Mike Dwyer
 

I built in a 2 car garage connected to the house.  It's the best way.  Get home, turn on the TV, it sucks, go work on the plane!  It had a little higher ceiling than normal.  I could put the rear shell on without the engine or the engine on without the rear shell...  1200 hours and 18 months to build.

Mike Dwyer Q200 N3QP

Q200 Website: http://goo.gl/V8IrJF


On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 12:57 PM, cmartin0721@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:
 

Lots of good information here.


I would love to get more info on the Dolphin. A quick web search didn't turn up anything.

I really do want to fly vs build/design so I may lean more towards the Q200. I am building this in order to have a fun taildragger to fly while I work on my next homebuilding project. My schedule is such that I can put about 1000 hours into the project in the first year. I would love to be flying or very close to it by then.

Now a logistics question...Is the Q200 realistically buildable in a 2 car garage? I am most concerned about dust and smell into the house. The garage is attached to the house. I probably need to join my EAA chapter (Sugarland Texas) and see if I can rent some building space from someone. I think the hangars at KSGR are all rented out.

I pulled the plans from Quickheads (Q2) as well as the Gall alignment, LS1, and brake upgrades. Are there any other safety upgrades/mods I need to incorporate?

As for forming the foam, I am considering buying the pre-cut foam from Eureka CNC. Now I have enough left over CNC parts to build my own CNC cutter for free essentially...but I guess the question is whether its really worth the effort. I am most concerned about a truly correct rig on the AC.....I want it to fly in a balanced and harmonious manner. I am sure there are many Q2s that were cut by hand and fly well, right?

Craig
Houston, Texas.




Re: New member just got a tri q200

Sam Hoskins
 

You can go to the Quickheads website and they have most of the Q-2 plans freely available. Also, put out a plea for an experienced builder/flyer to come and look at your project. They will provide a lot of info, so you might want to video the visit.

Sam

On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 4:42 PM chopndrag@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:
 

Yes I got the lakeland plane. The owner is a buddy of mine and I couldn't pass the deal he gave me up. To me having a motor in it to fly at first then change it isn't what I wanna do . If you look up Steve Henry from Wild West aircraft you'll see he's now running a rx1 . If he can neat the hell out of it doing stol competitions and all that back country flying without issue I'm sure my regular flying won't be an issue. My hanger neighbor has been running one for awhile now and he has had relatively no problems. If I build it with the motor or another I'm going to have to get used to it either way. Since the plane isn't done I can mount any engine in there no problem . The measurements arw already fine for the quickie cowl when I track one down . If I can't find a cowl I'll just make one . I have mold making experience and am a tig welder by trade. I also have a shop at home where I build a lot of parts for aircraft and also powder coat too. I'm very excited to start working on the plane but my only problem is having no real plans or manual for it. All I got were a manual that was a free download and I can tell it's missing a ton of info.