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Re: 1835 CC

Larry Severson
 

The biggest problem with the GU canard is on the ground, not in the air. In the air it is more efficient.  It does not like taxi across rough surfaces.

 

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Hi Victor,

I would not be so fast to condemn the old canard. Many have flown GU versions with larger engines. Usually vortex generators are in order to make it less susceptible to contamination, but it does seem to be able to handle the other aspects of a larger engine. I know that Paul Spackman has the old canard with VG's and a 120 HP Jabiru on the nose. He flies a lot, so he may be a good source of info.

Cheers,
Jay Scheevel, Tri-Q, still building


Re: 1835 CC

Jay Scheevel
 

Hi Victor,

I would not be so fast to condemn the old canard. Many have flown GU versions with larger engines. Usually vortex generators are in order to make it less susceptible to contamination, but it does seem to be able to handle the other aspects of a larger engine. I know that Paul Spackman has the old canard with VG's and a 120 HP Jabiru on the nose. He flies a lot, so he may be a good source of info.

Cheers,
Jay Scheevel, Tri-Q, still building


Re: 1835 CC

victor taylor
 

Thanks for taking the time Jim. I appreciate your input. Sounds a bit like my old Volksplane. I own a Velocity so it is my cross country machine. As for the little Quickie.....well I bought it as a firewall aft deal to save it from the graveyard. As I have learned it might have been better to pay for the funeral. It has the old canard on it so putting an O200 on it or larger means building a new canard. I am at sea level down in Mobile and will probably use the airplane within a couple hundred miles. I have talked with Martin Roberts at Great Plains aircraft and we can get 80 hp out of the Revmaster by upgrading that. I have also toyed with the idea of putting a turbine on it like KR 2 and CH750 have on them. It would be cool but at 14 gph for 100 hp not very realistic. I am pretty sure at this point it is going to end up with a Revmaster/GPAC 2276 cc which is listed as 80HP. I am going on a diet today as well. I will keep you all up to date as soon as I get started on it. I think it might end up being something like my Falcon XP was. I loved the Falcon and flew it a lot even though it was never really a 2 seat airplane. Hopefully in a year we add one Q2 to the small group. Thank so much for your input. 
Victor


On Oct 10, 2016, at 8:04 AM, logistics_engineering@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

Victor,

75 HP is not enough either! Just ask guys who fly these airplanes on a regular basis. If you ever plan to fly in or out of higher altitude airports on hot days or make long cross country flights that put you in that position, you will wish it was 100HP or even 120HP like some of the Q200's are. Especially if you intend to fly someone in the other seat with any amount of fuel. In my opinion, these planes are under powered
In certain situations.

I fly the California Sierras a lot and trust me, short runways (3,500' or less on hot days) will challenge you.

If you plan to stay at sea level, 75HP may be acceptable but there is no substitute for power!

Jim Patillo
N46JP Q200+


Re: 1835 CC

Jim Patillo
 

Victor,

75 HP is not enough either! Just ask guys who fly these airplanes on a regular basis. If you ever plan to fly in or out of higher altitude airports on hot days or make long cross country flights that put you in that position, you will wish it was 100HP or even 120HP like some of the Q200's are. Especially if you intend to fly someone in the other seat with any amount of fuel. In my opinion, these planes are under powered
In certain situations.

I fly the California Sierras a lot and trust me, short runways (3,500' or less on hot days) will challenge you.

If you plan to stay at sea level, 75HP may be acceptable but there is no substitute for power!

Jim Patillo
N46JP Q200+


Re: 1835 CC

victor taylor
 

Thanks guys. You've convinced me that upgrading the engine is a must. It's not that much more work since the engine needs overhauling anyway. 
Victor


On Oct 10, 2016, at 4:09 AM, mylittlemgb@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

It depends on how the engine was built but typically the 1835 is between 55 and 60hp at 3000rpm. The Q will fly with it but will require a much longer takeoff run and the plane needs to be light, under 650lbs empty weight. It is worth the cost to make the upgrade to get the engine into the 2180 range giving about 75hp for your safety. 10hp is a night and day difference, and you will not regret it.


Richard


Re: 1835 CC

mylittlemgb@...
 

It depends on how the engine was built but typically the 1835 is between 55 and 60hp at 3000rpm. The Q will fly with it but will require a much longer takeoff run and the plane needs to be light, under 650lbs empty weight. It is worth the cost to make the upgrade to get the engine into the 2180 range giving about 75hp for your safety. 10hp is a night and day difference, and you will not regret it.

Richard


Re: 1835 CC

victor taylor
 

What kind of climb rate did you get? How much difference does the 2100 make?


On Oct 10, 2016, at 2:08 AM, 'Brad Baerg' bradbrg1@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

I used a 1835 on my Tri-Q for several years and had no problems. Just us a climb prop and don’t expect a good climb rate at high oat or higher altitudes ,(I’m at 300 ft. field elevation)

 

 

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Hello Group, I thought I had a Revmaster 2100D but when I received it I found out that it was an 1835D. Will the Q2 fly with an 1835 with me in it? I weight 235. The 1835 can be converted but if it will fly with the 1835 it's less work to get it back in the air. I just arrived in Qatar so the project is on hold a couple months but I'm excited about getting started. I'll take the opportunity to install a speed brake, reflexer, etc before I put the motor on it. I plan to fly it next summer though.
Victor Taylor
Irvington, Al


Re: 1835 CC

Brad Baerg
 

I used a 1835 on my Tri-Q for several years and had no problems. Just us a climb prop and don’t expect a good climb rate at high oat or higher altitudes ,(I’m at 300 ft. field elevation)

 

 

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Subject: [Q-LIST] 1835 CC

 

 

Hello Group, I thought I had a Revmaster 2100D but when I received it I found out that it was an 1835D. Will the Q2 fly with an 1835 with me in it? I weight 235. The 1835 can be converted but if it will fly with the 1835 it's less work to get it back in the air. I just arrived in Qatar so the project is on hold a couple months but I'm excited about getting started. I'll take the opportunity to install a speed brake, reflexer, etc before I put the motor on it. I plan to fly it next summer though.
Victor Taylor
Irvington, Al


Re: 1835 CC

Jerry Marstall <jnmarstall@...>
 

You may taxi fast but you probably won't fly. Jerry



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From: "Victor velocityoner@... [Q-LIST]" <Q-LIST@...>
Date: 10/9/16 5:45 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: [Q-LIST] 1835 CC

 

Hello Group, I thought I had a Revmaster 2100D but when I received it I found out that it was an 1835D. Will the Q2 fly with an 1835 with me in it? I weight 235. The 1835 can be converted but if it will fly with the 1835 it's less work to get it back in the air. I just arrived in Qatar so the project is on hold a couple months but I'm excited about getting started. I'll take the opportunity to install a speed brake, reflexer, etc before I put the motor on it. I plan to fly it next summer though.
Victor Taylor
Irvington, Al



1835 CC

victor taylor
 

Hello Group, I thought I had a Revmaster 2100D but when I received it I found out that it was an 1835D. Will the Q2 fly with an 1835 with me in it? I weight 235. The 1835 can be converted but if it will fly with the 1835 it's less work to get it back in the air. I just arrived in Qatar so the project is on hold a couple months but I'm excited about getting started. I'll take the opportunity to install a speed brake, reflexer, etc before I put the motor on it. I plan to fly it next summer though.
Victor Taylor
Irvington, Al


Re: Tri-Q Owners

Lynn French
 

Well …….. It may sound odd, but I don’t really know the speed performance of my aircraft correlated back to any standard. I have all kinds of exotic mods to the engine, but not for the purpose of thinking I am going to get a record setting TriQ. I think it is fair to say that I cannot achieve the average numbers that have been floated out here lately.

 

I am currently working on getting a MegaSquirt controller set up as my backup ignition. When I get to the point where I can go do some performance runs I will record and let you know.

 

Regards,

LF

 

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Bruce I thought you had a stock 0200 but just wanted to confirm. Not sure what engine  or prop Martin is running but if he's going 162k average he indeed has a fast bird and pretty too!

 

Hey Lynn F, can you provide any input on your beautiful bird? I know you've done  a lot of innovate stuff to it. 

 

Regards,

Jim P

N46JP Q200

 

 

 

 

 

 





Re: Convert from Tri Gear back to tail wheel

norm_parm@...
 

I am in the process of building a Tri-Q, and if you are still changing back to the tail dragging version, I would be interested in possibility obtaining your legs for my project.

Regards,
Norman Parmley
(252)671-1567


Re: Canopies

Sam Hoskins
 

Working on the outside of the canopy isn't too bad , working on the inside is quite the trial.

Sam

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On Oct 7, 2016 4:33 PM, "logistics_engineering@... [Q-LIST]" <Q-LIST@...> wrote:
 

Thanks Sam,


I will try some micro mesh soon and let you know how it went. I kinda thought that was what I needed to do but wasn't lookin' forward to all the elbow grease!

Regards,

Jim
N46JP Q200


Re: Tri-Q Owners

Jim Patillo
 

Bruce I thought you had a stock 0200 but just wanted to confirm. Not sure what engine  or prop Martin is running but if he's going 162k average he indeed has a fast bird and pretty too!

Hey Lynn F, can you provide any input on your beautiful bird? I know you've done  a lot of innovate stuff to it. 

Regards,
Jim P
N46JP Q200







Re: Canopies

Jim Patillo
 

Thanks Sam,

I will try some micro mesh soon and let you know how it went. I kinda thought that was what I needed to do but wasn't lookin' forward to all the elbow grease!

Regards,

Jim
N46JP Q200


Re: Tri-Q Owners

Bruce Crain
 


Re: Tri-Q Owners

Jim Patillo
 

Thanks Bruce, it's always fun to compare like machines. Hopefully other experienced TriQ drivers will chime in. Just for the record, you have a pumped up 0200?

Hope you two are enjoying retirement! To bad we are so far apart. It would be nice to visit you guys occasionally.


Best,
Jim P
N46JP Q200


Re: Tri-Q Owners

Bruce Crain
 


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Patrick Panzera
 

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Re: Tri-Q Owners

Jerry Marstall <jnmarstall@...>
 

I a have to help host B17 thru 17th. Will check schedule when I get back home on the 12th.  Would like to help.  J



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Jerry when you get back you wanna help install a new wing? I will buy lunch. :-)

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